Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 A 10-year-old Nepalese girl worshipped as a living goddess, or Kumari, has lost her " divine " status for defying tradition and visiting the United States. Sajani Shakya was installed at the age of two as the Kumari of the ancient town of Bhaktapur, near the capital Kathmandu, where she was revered by Hindus and Buddhists alike in deeply religious Nepal. But a recent trip to the United States to promote a British-made documentary exploring Nepal's traditions and contemporary political turmoil has upset local religious leaders. " It is wrong and against the tradition for her to go on a foreign tour without any permission, " the chief of a trust that manages the affairs of Bhaktapur's Kumari tradition, Jai Prasad Regmi, told Reuters on Tuesday. " This is impure in our tradition. We will search for a new Kumari and install her as the living goddess, " Regmi said. Bhaktapur's is one of several Kumaris in the Kathmandu valley, home to 1.5 million people. The most important lives in a 15th century temple in Kathmandu's ancient Durbar Square. Living goddesses are chosen from the Buddhist Shakya family after a tough selection process. They are required to stay in temples blessing devotees until reaching puberty, after which they rejoin their family and lead a normal life. " We are discussing whether or not to pay Sajani monthly pension. We are positive on this, " Regmi said. While other living goddesses get a monthly pension of $17 each after retirement, Kathmandu's gets about $50 a month. Nepal's Supreme Court last year ordered the government to submit a detailed report on whether the Kumari tradition violated the children's human rights. Officials say the study is underway. [Reuters Kathmandu, July 03, 2007] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Thanks for this. Do goddesses need " permission " ? Max > " It is wrong and against the tradition for her to go on a foreign >tour without any permission, " the chief of a trust that manages the >affairs of Bhaktapur's Kumari tradition, Jai Prasad Regmi, told >Reuters on Tuesday. > > " This is impure in our tradition. We will search for a new Kumari >and install her as the living goddess, " Regmi said. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives http://www.suppressedhistories.net Real Women, Global Vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I don't get it...If she was really a living goddess...how can she be fired??? It's not because a woman wants to change the traditions that it is considered *bad*. Look at Sri Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, She is one who crossed the traditions by hugging strangers & traveling across the world, hiring women priest in Indian temples, and so forth. So if the little girl wan't a Kumari...the next won't be neither...And how can they judge is she is or not!!!??? That's really weird. Ambika durgangam <durgangam wrote: A 10-year-old Nepalese girl worshipped as a living goddess, or Kumari, has lost her " divine " status for defying tradition and visiting the United States. Sajani Shakya was installed at the age of two as the Kumari of the ancient town of Bhaktapur, near the capital Kathmandu, where she was revered by Hindus and Buddhists alike in deeply religious Nepal. But a recent trip to the United States to promote a British-made documentary exploring Nepal's traditions and contemporary political turmoil has upset local religious leaders. " It is wrong and against the tradition for her to go on a foreign tour without any permission, " the chief of a trust that manages the affairs of Bhaktapur's Kumari tradition, Jai Prasad Regmi, told Reuters on Tuesday. " This is impure in our tradition. We will search for a new Kumari and install her as the living goddess, " Regmi said. Bhaktapur's is one of several Kumaris in the Kathmandu valley, home to 1.5 million people. The most important lives in a 15th century temple in Kathmandu's ancient Durbar Square. Living goddesses are chosen from the Buddhist Shakya family after a tough selection process. They are required to stay in temples blessing devotees until reaching puberty, after which they rejoin their family and lead a normal life. " We are discussing whether or not to pay Sajani monthly pension. We are positive on this, " Regmi said. While other living goddesses get a monthly pension of $17 each after retirement, Kathmandu's gets about $50 a month. Nepal's Supreme Court last year ordered the government to submit a detailed report on whether the Kumari tradition violated the children's human rights. Officials say the study is underway. [Reuters Kathmandu, July 03, 2007] oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 You can not compare Mata Amritandamayi for She is self realized Master, Kumari tradition is something totally else , and I am glad that there will be investigation in regards to children human rights in this matter . joanna > I don't get it...If she was really a living goddess...how can she be fired??? > It's not because a woman wants to change the traditions that it is considered *bad*. > Look at Sri Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, She is one who crossed the traditions by hugging strangers & traveling across the world, hiring women priest in Indian temples, and so forth. > > So if the little girl wan't a Kumari...the next won't be neither...And how can they judge is she is or not!!!??? > > That's really weird. > > Ambika > durgangam <durgangam wrote: > A 10-year-old Nepalese girl worshipped as a living goddess, or > Kumari, has lost her " divine " status for defying tradition and > visiting the United States. > > Sajani Shakya was installed at the age of two as the Kumari of the > ancient town of Bhaktapur, near the capital Kathmandu, where she was > revered by Hindus and Buddhists alike in deeply religious Nepal. > > But a recent trip to the United States to promote a British-made > documentary exploring Nepal's traditions and contemporary political > turmoil has upset local religious leaders. > > " It is wrong and against the tradition for her to go on a foreign > tour without any permission, " the chief of a trust that manages the > affairs of Bhaktapur's Kumari tradition, Jai Prasad Regmi, told > Reuters on Tuesday. > > " This is impure in our tradition. We will search for a new Kumari > and install her as the living goddess, " Regmi said. > > Bhaktapur's is one of several Kumaris in the Kathmandu valley, home > to 1.5 million people. The most important lives in a 15th century > temple in Kathmandu's ancient Durbar Square. > > Living goddesses are chosen from the Buddhist Shakya family after a > tough selection process. > > They are required to stay in temples blessing devotees until > reaching puberty, after which they rejoin their family and lead a > normal life. > > " We are discussing whether or not to pay Sajani monthly pension. We > are positive on this, " Regmi said. > > While other living goddesses get a monthly pension of $17 each after > retirement, Kathmandu's gets about $50 a month. > > Nepal's Supreme Court last year ordered the government to submit a > detailed report on whether the Kumari tradition violated the > children's human rights. Officials say the study is underway. > > [Reuters > Kathmandu, July 03, 2007] > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 See, I didnt know about the tradition! And I agree with the decision too! Thanks Joanna! joannapollner <joannapollner wrote: You can not compare Mata Amritandamayi for She is self realized Master, Kumari tradition is something totally else , and I am glad that there will be investigation in regards to children human rights in this matter . joanna > I don't get it...If she was really a living goddess...how can she be fired??? > It's not because a woman wants to change the traditions that it is considered *bad*. > Look at Sri Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, She is one who crossed the traditions by hugging strangers & traveling across the world, hiring women priest in Indian temples, and so forth. > > So if the little girl wan't a Kumari...the next won't be neither...And how can they judge is she is or not!!!??? > > That's really weird. > > Ambika > durgangam <durgangam wrote: > A 10-year-old Nepalese girl worshipped as a living goddess, or > Kumari, has lost her " divine " status for defying tradition and > visiting the United States. > > Sajani Shakya was installed at the age of two as the Kumari of the > ancient town of Bhaktapur, near the capital Kathmandu, where she was > revered by Hindus and Buddhists alike in deeply religious Nepal. > > But a recent trip to the United States to promote a British-made > documentary exploring Nepal's traditions and contemporary political > turmoil has upset local religious leaders. > > " It is wrong and against the tradition for her to go on a foreign > tour without any permission, " the chief of a trust that manages the > affairs of Bhaktapur's Kumari tradition, Jai Prasad Regmi, told > Reuters on Tuesday. > > " This is impure in our tradition. We will search for a new Kumari > and install her as the living goddess, " Regmi said. > > Bhaktapur's is one of several Kumaris in the Kathmandu valley, home > to 1.5 million people. The most important lives in a 15th century > temple in Kathmandu's ancient Durbar Square. > > Living goddesses are chosen from the Buddhist Shakya family after a > tough selection process. > > They are required to stay in temples blessing devotees until > reaching puberty, after which they rejoin their family and lead a > normal life. > > " We are discussing whether or not to pay Sajani monthly pension. We > are positive on this, " Regmi said. > > While other living goddesses get a monthly pension of $17 each after > retirement, Kathmandu's gets about $50 a month. > > Nepal's Supreme Court last year ordered the government to submit a > detailed report on whether the Kumari tradition violated the > children's human rights. Officials say the study is underway. > > [Reuters > Kathmandu, July 03, 2007] > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 The whole idea is that this idea of goddess worship is not what it has pretended to be. this is actually reinfocrement of the conditioning of weak children that are to be slaves, told what to do and when to do it by males. it enforces varnas, it in particular enforces the OLD world view of women, inferior and weaker than men, the idea of 'prakriti' or nature as unthinking and needing a controller. that's really what this is about. if you can see it i congratulate you because it is hard to see, but has lurked in Impersonalist philosophy, which is Brahmanic rather than Mayavadi, and has lurked there since, in reality, the 1400s b.c. On 7/3/07, Ambika Kumari <amrita_ambika wrote: > > I don't get it...If she was really a living goddess...how can she be > fired??? > It's not because a woman wants to change the traditions that it is > considered *bad*. > Look at Sri Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, She is one who crossed the > traditions by hugging strangers & traveling across the world, hiring women > priest in Indian temples, and so forth. > > So if the little girl wan't a Kumari...the next won't be neither...And how > can they judge is she is or not!!!??? > > That's really weird. > > Ambika > durgangam <durgangam <durgangam%40.co.in>> wrote: > A 10-year-old Nepalese girl worshipped as a living goddess, or > Kumari, has lost her " divine " status for defying tradition and > visiting the United States. > > Sajani Shakya was installed at the age of two as the Kumari of the > ancient town of Bhaktapur, near the capital Kathmandu, where she was > revered by Hindus and Buddhists alike in deeply religious Nepal. > > But a recent trip to the United States to promote a British-made > documentary exploring Nepal's traditions and contemporary political > turmoil has upset local religious leaders. > > " It is wrong and against the tradition for her to go on a foreign > tour without any permission, " the chief of a trust that manages the > affairs of Bhaktapur's Kumari tradition, Jai Prasad Regmi, told > Reuters on Tuesday. > > " This is impure in our tradition. We will search for a new Kumari > and install her as the living goddess, " Regmi said. > > Bhaktapur's is one of several Kumaris in the Kathmandu valley, home > to 1.5 million people. The most important lives in a 15th century > temple in Kathmandu's ancient Durbar Square. > > Living goddesses are chosen from the Buddhist Shakya family after a > tough selection process. > > They are required to stay in temples blessing devotees until > reaching puberty, after which they rejoin their family and lead a > normal life. > > " We are discussing whether or not to pay Sajani monthly pension. We > are positive on this, " Regmi said. > > While other living goddesses get a monthly pension of $17 each after > retirement, Kathmandu's gets about $50 a month. > > Nepal's Supreme Court last year ordered the government to submit a > detailed report on whether the Kumari tradition violated the > children's human rights. Officials say the study is underway. > > [Reuters > Kathmandu, July 03, 2007] > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web > links. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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