Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 jai gurudev om shivgoraksha dear sir, i am sorry to trouble u and the moderators and all friends in ss group. u earlier claim that buddhism is related to shakti sadhana or it is when shakti sadhana started of something. now u quote some books. i have a humble request : i am really confused by what u r trying to talk or argue. what u said earlier and what u say now to me seems very different. i again repeat that shakti sadhana or worship of maa adi shakti param prakruti mother nature,is not restricted to only india, and even if it was,the various gods like indra,agni,vayu, varun etc r part of the same divinity. is rain,fire,water,air,earth,space etc not part of nature ??? i hope u will not deny this truth. how can u start something that has always preexisted ?? maybe u can differenciate it,but then shakti sadhana has been in existance in india even before lord matsyendranathji. 1 example : pls read srimad devi bhagwat puran.in it the story of lord gautam maharishi,and the story of dosha nivaran of gouhatya is very well known.pls read it again,in this,he is worshipping mother shakti and she is providing food to the ashram,and some people become jealous and created a cow of dharbha etc.... he got the doshanivaran by lord brahma-vishnu-rudra blessing him and absolving him of gouhatya dosha as he was not responsible in the first place. this place known as trambakeshwar,is located near nashik,in maharashtra is one of the jyotirlingams,and gautam maharishi ashram is still there. now i hope u will not say that lord gautam maharishi is younger than lord matsyendranathji,bcoz lord gautam maharashi is one of the sapta rishis who predate the nath sampradya.THIS IS ONLY 1 OF MANY EXAMPLES.if you are talking abt kaula sampradaya,then so many sampradaya have been formed by different divine souls that u cant say kaula sampradaya is the only shakti sadhana samprdaya. when man evoled from africa he has been worshipping nature only this predates all indian history. so shakti sadhana in unstructured form or structured form is going on before lord matsyendranathji or bautam buddha. we as humans r also made of of the elements the tatvas etc, so we are also part of nature. so this fact is established that we r part of nature,and worship to any god will be worship to same divinity. i know i am repeating the same old stuff again and again, but since the situation araises i just inform u. the simple but scientific principal of adwaith is so very easy to understand. i am sorry to trouble all people with my humble words,and i hope no one feels offended by same. om shakti gopal On 11/8/09, Abhijit Dasgupta <abhijitdasgupta92 wrote: > > My dear learned friends, > > There are some confusion arises on these above three issues. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 My dear Sir, I have expressed my opinion, I am not imposing my information to my other members. I have also given various references towards this. These are the opinions of Historians, researchers. I have projected their views. Kind regards. --- On Mon, 9/11/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 Re: Kaula, Mistry and women. Monday, 9 November, 2009, 7:05 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 jai gurudev om shivgoraksha dear sir, i humbly request u to actually read the originals or atleast the hindi translations,so u will know the contents directly rather than relying on 3rd and 4th person accounts. pls do not feel offended by my request,bcoz only when u will actually read the original texts or atleast the hindi translation u will be closer to real understanding. what the so called authours did,or how they got info, we dont know,so first hand knowledge is more imp. i had given u some links,u can try these and u can also get good ones from geetapress gorakhpur etc.... maa adi shakti is satya-chit-anand vigraha,all that exists is her divnity,bcoz all that exists is nature.the void,and the matter,the shunya and the shrushti is all her. reading the original texts and knowing our mother as us and ourself as part of her,is a most divine and blissful experience. one does not have to die to get salvation,one can be a jeevanmukta also,ie got salvation when still alive like king janak or videha.all so called concepts present in non-hindu ideology etc r already espoused in hindu texts beforehand. pls buy srimad devi bhagwat puran from geeta press gorakhpur. www.geetapress.org this can be a good start for u.again sorry for being repetative and focussing on same point but pls try what i request u will never regret yr decision,to be one with maa narayani. om shakti gopal On 11/9/09, Abhijit Dasgupta <abhijitdasgupta92 wrote: > > > > My dear Sir, > > I have expressed my opinion, I am not imposing my information to my other > members. > > I have also given various references towards this. These are the opinions > of Historians, researchers. > > I have projected their views. > > Kind regards. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Mr. Gopal Narayan,  I may not be fully knowledgeble, but am aware. Since you started with " Om Siva Gorokhsha " , i suggest you to go throgh the Nath Literature. However, Vedic literature is literatures of Brahmins as it is known as Brahminic literature, but Nath literature were almost unknown to educated people. Incidentally various scholars started taking into interest in Nathism and found a vast activities of this religion. For your kind information, Nath religion never recognized Vedic religion as the supreme or as authority of Nath religion. This Nath religion clearly talks on all the above issue. and there isa book by name " Kaula Gnan Nirnaya " also found , to be written by Lord Matsendra Nath. Besides this , there are scholerly books available wriiten by various people and these Books are available at the Library of Goroknath temple . For your kind information Sir. With regards. --- On Tue, 10/11/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 Re: Kaula, Mistry and women. Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 11:09 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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