Introduction from a seeker

[Guest guest]

Hi everybody. I have been lurking around for a bit now, and I thought that I

should start to introduce myself. I am 17 and live in Wales, UK.

I would really like to start worshipping Devi, and I thought that this group

would be a great way to get started. And it is! I have found a great wealth of

information searching the site and these forums as well as the files section.

I have a few questions to get me going, I guess. I am not really sure that I

want to commit myself to anything yet, let alone a certain sect of devi worship,

but I have been reciting the Khadgamalam Stotram, aswell as some other mantras I

have found, along with reading the devi gita and other puranas and trying to

figure out how to incorporate thier practice into my life. Is it ok to mix the

tantric and the puranic like this? Forgive my ignorance if it is a stupid

question.

I guess I just want to know where to go from here. The stuff in the files

section is really great, but I would love some shorter mantras to recite - I

have been searching the web and couldn't find much Shakti based stuff. Is there

anything to the equivalent of " Om Nameh Shivaya " ?

 

I hope my stay here is long and fruitful.

 

Thanks,

 

Wilfred.

[Guest guest]

Sri Matre Namaha

 

Hi Wilfred

 

" Om Namah Shivaya'' also known as " Panchakshari " - the five syllable

mantra, though a widely known one is an unparalleled one. That is one's

salutation to the welfare doing male principle of the Supreme One, who

dwells in every being as a divine soul. He is the one who is the goal of all

paths of Realization, including SriVidya -the Devi worship. He is the

central Bindu of the Sri Chakra, on whom sits Devi Lalita.

I can only tell you only what I have known - please stay on vegetarian diet

and chant this mantra with complete devotion as long as you can - you will

not only be rid of all impurities from your system, there will be divine

grace leading to development of calmness, love and compassion towards one

and all and divine guidance leading to further levels of spiritual

awakening.

 

All the Best.......Om Namah Shivaya Om

 

 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:49 PM, wilfred h <hatecrew9 wrote:

 

>

> I would love some shorter mantras to recite - I

> have been searching the web and couldn't find much Shakti based stuff. Is

> there anything to the equivalent of " Om Nameh Shivaya " ?

>

> I hope my stay here is long and fruitful.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Wilfred.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sri Karunamayi suggests/teaches a number of relatively short mantras;

see her website for articles and sound clips,

and of course, CDs for sale:

http://www.karunamayi.org/AmmaStore/product.php?productid=16292

 

Also see Shree Maa's website:

http://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/shree_maa_streaming_audio_playlists

 

, " wilfred h " <hatecrew9 wrote:

> I would love some shorter mantras to recite - I have been searching the web

and couldn't find much Shakti based stuff. Is there anything to the equivalent

of " Om Nameh Shivaya " ?

>

> I hope my stay here is long and fruitful.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Wilfred.

>

[Guest guest]

A word of dissent, if I may?

 

Ravi Iyer wrote: " [The] male principle of the Supreme One [...] is the goal of

all paths of Realization, including SriVidya - the Devi worship. "

 

With all due respect, that very very broad statement, while a very accurate

summary of the Shaiva viewpoint, is a decidedly oxymoronic and inaccurate

interpretation of the Shakta path.

 

Having received a fair amount of teaching from acknowledged gurus in two

distinct lineages of Sri Vidya upasana, and having deeply studied the teachings

of great teachers in several more, I feel compelled to note that Mr. Iyer's

statement is, at best, misleading.

 

aim mAtangyai namaH

[Guest guest]

Sri Matre Namaha

 

I wish to clarify to DB that I am not in competition with any body nor

interested in singing my Gurus' glory here as they need not prove anything

to anybody through me. However, what I have learnt from them is that for a

sadhak to progress, he/she should have *humility*. Humility, in turn, leads

to controlled expression apart from understanding the all-pervasiveness of

the Supreme One.

 

While I am not here to give a lecture on Shiva-Shakti principles, just to

recapitulate, what I said was:

* " Om Namah Shivaya'' also known as " Panchakshari " - the five syllable

mantra, though a widely known one is an unparalleled one. That is one's

salutation to the welfare doing male principle of the Supreme One, who

dwells in every being as a divine soul. He is the one who is the goal of all

paths of Realization, including SriVidya -the Devi worship. He is the

central Bindu of the Sri Chakra, on whom sits Devi Lalita.*

**

Whether it is Shaktipath in Shaivism or Kundaliniyoga or Tantric worship in

Shakta path, what is the aim? To raise Ma Kundalini(shakti) to Sahasrar -

the abode of Shiva (the Supreme Consciousness) for Realization.

 

To quote from page 117 of Tantra of* Sri Chakra* by Prof.S.K.Ramachandra Rao

" The central point is taken to represent the nature of Kamaraja. The *

consciousness* with no adjuncts whatever .....It is mere Siva, being but

inert.......But that is the ground on which the entire universe springs up,

is sustained, and withdrawn......This is graphically represented as the

triangle in the middle of which is a point (bindu): the triangle represent

feminine energy, and the* point masculine consciousness*. "

 

So what's wrong in my statement? If DB thinks that by being verbose, he will

subdue a member, he is wrong.

 

May I request the Moderator of the site to make a note of this.

 

Om Namah Shivaya Om

 

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM, DB <devi_bhakta wrote:

 

>

>

> A word of dissent, if I may?

>

> Ravi Iyer wrote: " [The] male principle of the Supreme One [...] is the goal

> of all paths of Realization, including SriVidya - the Devi worship. "

>

> With all due respect, that very very broad statement, while a very accurate

> summary of the Shaiva viewpoint, is a decidedly oxymoronic and inaccurate

> interpretation of the Shakta path.

>

> Having received a fair amount of teaching from acknowledged gurus in two

> distinct lineages of Sri Vidya upasana, and having deeply studied the

> teachings of great teachers in several more, I feel compelled to note that

> Mr. Iyer's statement is, at best, misleading.

>

> aim mAtangyai namaH

>

>

>

 

 

 

--

Ravi Iyer

 

 

Phone: 647-866-1074 Email: iyerlaw

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mr. Iyer:

 

I have no desire to " subdue " you; I am simply disagreeing with you.

 

As a founding moderator of this group, I have duly noted your displeasure, but

you need not fear any lingham-polishing contest with me; I just work here.

 

In that regard, you may also be pleased to note that I approved your response

without edits, all barbs intact. I do try to play fair, you see, but when I have

a differing viewpoint I will say so, verbosely or otherwise.

 

DB

 

 

, Ravi Iyer <iyerlaw wrote:

 

[...] I wish to clarify to DB that I am not in competition with any body [...]

If DB thinks that by being verbose, he will subdue a member, he is wrong. [...]

May I request the Moderator of the site to make a note of this.

[Guest guest]

Thankyou to everyone who has helped me.

 

In my humble opinion, Shakti and shiva are one and the same thing, and all is

Brahman. Which ever way you look at it, Shakti is " higher " , Shiva is " higher " -

both are true, because it is the same thing. The differences lie in our

differing needs and preferences.

 

" please stay on vegetarian diet "

 

I am actually a vegan, because I feel this best reflects the Ahimsa principle.

 

 

, " wilfred h " <hatecrew9 wrote:

>

> Hi everybody. I have been lurking around for a bit now, and I thought that I

should start to introduce myself. I am 17 and live in Wales, UK.

> I would really like to start worshipping Devi, and I thought that this group

would be a great way to get started. And it is! I have found a great wealth of

information searching the site and these forums as well as the files section.

> I have a few questions to get me going, I guess. I am not really sure that I

want to commit myself to anything yet, let alone a certain sect of devi worship,

but I have been reciting the Khadgamalam Stotram, aswell as some other mantras I

have found, along with reading the devi gita and other puranas and trying to

figure out how to incorporate thier practice into my life. Is it ok to mix the

tantric and the puranic like this? Forgive my ignorance if it is a stupid

question.

> I guess I just want to know where to go from here. The stuff in the files

section is really great, but I would love some shorter mantras to recite - I

have been searching the web and couldn't find much Shakti based stuff. Is there

anything to the equivalent of " Om Nameh Shivaya " ?

>

> I hope my stay here is long and fruitful.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Wilfred.

>

[Guest guest]

Shiva shaktya yukto yadi bhavati shaktah prabhavitum

Na che devam devo na khalu kushalah spanditum api

Atas tvaam aaraadhyaam hari-hara-virinchyaadibhirapi

Pranantum stotum va katham akrta-punyah prabhavati

 

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, DB <devi_bhakta wrote:

 

 

DB <devi_bhakta

Re: Introduction from a seeker

 

Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:07 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

A word of dissent, if I may?

 

Ravi Iyer wrote: " [The] male principle of the Supreme One [...] is the goal of

all paths of Realization, including SriVidya - the Devi worship. "

 

With all due respect, that very very broad statement, while a very accurate

summary of the Shaiva viewpoint, is a decidedly oxymoronic and inaccurate

interpretation of the Shakta path.

 

Having received a fair amount of teaching from acknowledged gurus in two

distinct lineages of Sri Vidya upasana, and having deeply studied the teachings

of great teachers in several more, I feel compelled to note that Mr. Iyer's

statement is, at best, misleading.

 

aim mAtangyai namaH

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sankara, since I am unversed, can you provide a translation?

 

 

Love and Light.

 

 

________________________________

sankara menon <kochu1tz

 

Tue, March 2, 2010 12:13:40 PM

Re: Re: Introduction from a seeker

 

 

Shiva shaktya yukto yadi bhavati shaktah prabhavitum

Na che devam devo na khalu kushalah spanditum api

Atas tvaam aaraadhyaam hari-hara-virinchya adibhirapi

Pranantum stotum va katham akrta-punyah prabhavati

 

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, DB <devi_bhakta@ > wrote:

 

DB <devi_bhakta@ >

Re: Introduction from a seeker

 

Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:07 PM

 

 

 

A word of dissent, if I may?

 

Ravi Iyer wrote: " [The] male principle of the Supreme One [...] is the goal of

all paths of Realization, including SriVidya - the Devi worship. "

 

With all due respect, that very very broad statement, while a very accurate

summary of the Shaiva viewpoint, is a decidedly oxymoronic and inaccurate

interpretation of the Shakta path.

 

Having received a fair amount of teaching from acknowledged gurus in two

distinct lineages of Sri Vidya upasana, and having deeply studied the teachings

of great teachers in several more, I feel compelled to note that Mr. Iyer's

statement is, at best, misleading.

 

aim mAtangyai namaH

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Myra:

 

Kochu appears to be planting a flag for the Shakta position by quoting the first

stanza of the ancient hymn " Saundarya Lahari " (Waves of Beauty), traditionally

ascribed to Sankaracarya:

 

If Shiva is united with Shakti, then he is able to create in this world & #894;

Without Her, the god is unable even to stir.

So how can one who does no good deeds and does not sing your praise

Even aspire to worship you, oh Goddess, who are worshiped by the very Trinity?

 

DB

 

, Myra Godfrey <myragodfrey wrote:

>

> Sankara, since I am unversed, can you provide a translation?

>

>

> Love and Light.

>

>

> ________________________________

> sankara menon <kochu1tz

>

> Tue, March 2, 2010 12:13:40 PM

> Re: Re: Introduction from a seeker

>

>

> Shiva shaktya yukto yadi bhavati shaktah prabhavitum

> Na che devam devo na khalu kushalah spanditum api

> Atas tvaam aaraadhyaam hari-hara-virinchya adibhirapi

> Pranantum stotum va katham akrta-punyah prabhavati

>

> --- On Mon, 3/1/10, DB <devi_bhakta@ > wrote:

>

> DB <devi_bhakta@ >

> Re: Introduction from a seeker

>

> Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:07 PM

>

>

>

> A word of dissent, if I may?

[Guest guest]

Bhoh Sankara Bhavataa api atra uktam Shivah Shaktyaa-yuktah; Evam sati, Shaktih

kewalaa spanditum shaktaa kim chet, na. shiva-shakti-aikyam anivaaryam bhavati

pravrttaye; atha kim, eshah vishayah prasiddha eva. Kewala-shivah jadah; shaktih

spandanaa; atra yathaa lalitaa-shasranaame udhrtam, katipayaih aachaarya-varyaih

upasamhrtam sshiva-shakti-maithunam, aikyam vaa parabrahma-swarupam iti

sri-brahma-vidyayoh abhedah.

JR, the Ignorant 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

sankara menon <kochu1tz

 

Tue, March 2, 2010 11:43:40 PM

Re: Re: Introduction from a seeker

 

 

Shiva shaktya yukto yadi bhavati shaktah prabhavitum

Na che devam devo na khalu kushalah spanditum api

Atas tvaam aaraadhyaam hari-hara-virinchya adibhirapi

Pranantum stotum va katham akrta-punyah prabhavati

 

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, DB <devi_bhakta@ > wrote:

 

DB <devi_bhakta@ >

Re: Introduction from a seeker

 

Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:07 PM

 

 

 

A word of dissent, if I may?

 

Ravi Iyer wrote: " [The] male principle of the Supreme One [...] is the goal of

all paths of Realization, including SriVidya - the Devi worship. "

 

With all due respect, that very very broad statement, while a very accurate

summary of the Shaiva viewpoint, is a decidedly oxymoronic and inaccurate

interpretation of the Shakta path.

 

Having received a fair amount of teaching from acknowledged gurus in two

distinct lineages of Sri Vidya upasana, and having deeply studied the teachings

of great teachers in several more, I feel compelled to note that Mr. Iyer's

statement is, at best, misleading.

 

aim mAtangyai namaH