Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Namaste and love to all: Om Sri Mathre Namah: When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my head. It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just like that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). Thank you. At the lotus feet of the divine mother. Ekambaram Microsoft. Get it now. _______________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Could be the finger of Devi Herself. Could be an early indicator of male pattern baldness. Best thing for your sadhana, in either case, is to continue your jaap and not worry too much about it. DB , ekambaram ramachandran <ekambaramr wrote: [...] When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my head. It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just like that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Namaste. It could be related to flows in your subtle energy at one of your higher chakras. Everyone's experience is unique. Jai Maa. -Santo aum shanti shanti shantih. " The world is like the impression left by the telling of a story. " - from the Yoga VÄsiá¹£á¹ha On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:17 AM, ekambaram ramachandran < ekambaramr wrote: > > > > > Namaste and love to all: > > Om Sri Mathre Namah: > > When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem > Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my head. > It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is > this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I > stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just like > that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). > > Thank you. > At the lotus feet of the divine mother. > Ekambaram > > Microsoft. Get it now. > > ________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Sri Matre Namaha While I agree with Santo's view, I caution you against chanting BHEEJA mantras without being initiated by a Realized Guru, as the damage, if any, can be serious. It is not a child's play. " Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem Mahasaraswathiyey Namah " - being chanted by you seems a flawed one. As far as I know, Aim goes with Saraswati, Kleem with Kali and Shreem with Lakshmi. Please consult one who is well-versed on these matters. But, your tingling has nothing to do with baldness, as mentioned by a member. Namaskar! On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Santo Sengupta <aumshantihwrote: > > > Namaste. > It could be related to flows in your subtle energy at one of your higher > chakras. > Everyone's experience is unique. > Jai Maa. > > -Santo > aum shanti shanti shantih. > " The world is like the impression left by the telling of a story. " - from > the Yoga VÄsiá¹£á¹ha > > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:17 AM, ekambaram ramachandran < > ekambaramr <ekambaramr%40hotmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste and love to all: > > > > Om Sri Mathre Namah: > > > > When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem > > Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my > head. > > It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is > > this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I > > stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just > like > > that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). > > > > Thank you. > > At the lotus feet of the divine mother. > > Ekambaram > > > > Microsoft. Get it now. > > > > ________ > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I agree that bija mantras should be chanted only with initiation by a * qualified* guru in the context of an established lineage. A " Realized Master " can take many forms and one shouldn't get too many ideas about what such a person looks like. Bija mantras require proper establishment in ritual context. Chanting them without initiation, context or proper instruction can give one the idea that they're moving forward, but the benefits are illusory. It's kind of like driving your car in sand - the wheels are spinning, but the more you lay on the gas, the deeper you sink into the sand, the harder it is to get out. The ego is a powerful and tricky thing. When you find a guru (or the guru finds you), you will have to unlearn everything and find a place of real humility in order to learn properly, and this is a difficult process (believe me!). Best not to get too far ahead of oneself before that. One can cultivate bhakti, in itself a powerful tool in spiritual development, without employing these energies. I think what Devi Bhakta was trying to convey is that one shouldn't pay too much attention to these kinds of things - physical sensations, colors, flashing lights, etc. There are any number of perfectly explainable physiological reasons why such a thing could be happening, the mantras being coincidental, and it's best not to let one's imagination run away. So it's best to keep an attitude of humility and avoid superstition or self-aggrandizement, which are counterproductive to spiritual progress. jai MA kamesvari -kulasundari p.s. - I generally dislike promoting my own work on this list, as it's a forum for discussion and not advertisement, but we do have pranama mantras for various Tantric deities on our temple website, which are powerful and useful in cultivating bhakti and positive energies. These mantras are specific to the Kamakhya/Kamarupa area. You can find these here: http://kamakhyamandir.org/category/vidya/mantra/ We'll be adding pranama mantras to various forms of Shiva/Bhairava soon. Sri Kamakhya Mahavidya Mandir www.kamakhyamandir.org On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ravi Iyer <iyerlaw wrote: > > > Sri Matre Namaha > > While I agree with Santo's view, I caution you against chanting BHEEJA > mantras without being initiated by a Realized Guru, as the damage, if any, > can be serious. It is not a child's play. > > " Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem Mahasaraswathiyey Namah " > - > being chanted by you seems a flawed one. As far as I know, Aim goes with > Saraswati, Kleem with Kali and Shreem with Lakshmi. Please consult one who > is well-versed on these matters. > > But, your tingling has nothing to do with baldness, as mentioned by a > member. > > Namaskar! > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Santo Sengupta <aumshantih<aumshantih%40gmail.com> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > It could be related to flows in your subtle energy at one of your higher > > chakras. > > Everyone's experience is unique. > > Jai Maa. > > > > -Santo > > aum shanti shanti shantih. > > " The world is like the impression left by the telling of a story. " - from > > the Yoga VÄsiá¹£á¹ha > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:17 AM, ekambaram ramachandran < > > ekambaramr <ekambaramr%40hotmail.com> <ekambaramr% > 40hotmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste and love to all: > > > > > > Om Sri Mathre Namah: > > > > > > When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem > > > Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my > > head. > > > It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What > is > > > this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when > I > > > stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just > > like > > > that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). > > > > > > Thank you. > > > At the lotus feet of the divine mother. > > > Ekambaram > > > > > > Microsoft. Get it now. > > > > > > ________ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > > > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Thank you, kulasundari, for elegantly rescuing me from my own bad joke. :-) Your explanation below rephrases my underlying point quite beautifully. I would only add that, even where the reasons for the tingling/buzzing/visions/etc are *not* purely physiological -- that is, even where subtle energies have been activated and are manifesting in various ways, as they will -- they should not be given an undue amount of weight and attention. Mantras, of course, work on any number of levels and one should not be surprised to physically sense their activities now and then. Enjoy them! They can be exciting and interesting. Just don't mistake the sideshows for the main event. aim mAtangyai namaH , Kulasundari Devi <sundari wrote: [...] I think what Devi Bhakta was trying to convey is that one shouldn't pay too much attention to these kinds of things - physical sensations, colors, flashing lights, etc. There are any number of perfectly explainable physiological reasons why such a thing could be happening, the mantras being coincidental, and it's best not to let one's imagination run away. [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 My humble Namaskarams to every one there, I have a doubt regarding Khadgamala Stotram. I see we have many scholarly members here. I appeal to them to clear my doubt. We have 'Jayaanta maala - all three types viz., shuddhashakti, shuddhashiva, shuddhashivashaktimithuna. Now, in some versions, jaya jaya is preceded by 'Vocative case' (Sambodhana Prathamaa); for e.g. SamkshobhiN Jaya Jaya (in Shuddha Shiva Maalaa). In some versions, 'Dative case' (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is used; for e.g. SamkshobhiNe Jaya Jaya. My doubt is which one is correct. In Hindi, one says 'Mahatma Gandhi ki Jai'. This is quite close to Genitive case (ShashThI Vibhakti). Normally whenever we offer something to someone for keeps sake, we use dative case like 'tubhyam namah'. raamaaya namah, shivaaya namah. It is not shivam namah, ramam namh etc. When we use the nama as a verb, accusative case is used like raamam namaami.In english also, we would say 'victory to thee' which can be close to the Sanskrit dative case. But, in Stotras like 'Mahishaasuramardini Stotra', we clearly employ the 'vocative case';  for e.g. Jaya Jaya Hae Mahishaasuramardini.....Shailasute' . Can the learned forum help me in resolving this issue? My request. I have other doubts too regarding the rule of tithi to be followed. I shall raise it next. Thanks every one. JR, the ignorant.    ________________________________ DB <devi_bhakta Mon, March 1, 2010 10:24:25 PM Re: What is it?  Could be the finger of Devi Herself. Could be an early indicator of male pattern baldness. Best thing for your sadhana, in either case, is to continue your jaap and not worry too much about it. DB , ekambaram ramachandran <ekambaramr@ ....> wrote: [...] When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my head. It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just like that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi All Enlightened Souls I have been practising SV for quite some years - I do not know rightly or wrongly. Devi has not been kind enough to bestow on me any kind of experiences. Maybe because, I fall asleep very deeply the moment I go to bed and get up only in the morning for my ablutions and Devi must find me too thick headed and sleepy to give me visions. The way many people post in this list, I feel they all must be already liberated and I have much much to learn. Pl help me. JR ________________________________ DB <devi_bhakta Tue, March 2, 2010 8:35:54 AM Re: What is it? Â Thank you, kulasundari, for elegantly rescuing me from my own bad joke. :-) Your explanation below rephrases my underlying point quite beautifully. I would only add that, even where the reasons for the tingling/buzzing/ visions/etc are *not* purely physiological -- that is, even where subtle energies have been activated and are manifesting in various ways, as they will -- they should not be given an undue amount of weight and attention. Mantras, of course, work on any number of levels and one should not be surprised to physically sense their activities now and then. Enjoy them! They can be exciting and interesting. Just don't mistake the sideshows for the main event. aim mAtangyai namaH , Kulasundari Devi <sundari > wrote: [...] I think what Devi Bhakta was trying to convey is that one shouldn't pay too much attention to these kinds of things - physical sensations, colors, flashing lights, etc. There are any number of perfectly explainable physiological reasons why such a thing could be happening, the mantras being coincidental, and it's best not to let one's imagination run away. [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Radhakrishnan J wrote: > > > Hi All Enlightened Souls > I have been practising SV for quite some years - I do not know rightly > or wrongly. Devi has not been kind enough to bestow on me any kind of > experiences. Maybe because, I fall asleep very deeply the moment I go > to bed and get up only in the morning for my ablutions and Devi must > find me too thick headed and sleepy to give me visions. The way many > people post in this list, I feel they all must be already liberated > and I have much much to learn. Pl help me. > Well, I can't answer this because it's not addressed to me :-) Seriously, while I can speak only for myself, everyone I know is in exactly the same boat that you are, which is the very human one of seeing reality only rarely and in glimpses. I don't know anyone who's liberated. Some people see visions and some people see self-induced fantasies which they mistake for visions and some people don't see anything at all, but that doesn't mean that one of them is liberated and the others aren't. Most of us go through a time when we would like something amazing to happen, but we then settle down to see that it's amazing enough just to have a path to walk. Don't give up on yourself and don't think you're missing out on anything and don't think that other people have got " it " and you're left out. Keep looking and trusting. A great Western saint, Simone Weil, once said that you don't have to go looking for God; all you have to do is say no to everything that isn't god. The way I see it, everything you're experiencing is the Devi except your worry that leads you to think that the Devi is something else that comes to you in flashes of lightning and pretty colors. She loves you. Don't forget that! Michael Steinberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi JR: I had always heard and read so much about how to raise the kundalini, and how it would feel and how one's chakras come alive as the petals open and turn upward. And so I tried various techniques and waited for the fireworks, but in fact very little happened ever. Years went by and I had the opportunity to meet a great sadhak in the deep south of India, initiated into Sri Vidya as a boy and now (in the thick of middle age) a guru to several select individuals. He is generally not a well-known or famous individual outside of his circles, and is generally so self-depreciating that it is hard to pry any information out of him except in the rarest of moods. And then there was me. Sometimes, when this fine teacher was radiating like a beacon, I was as thick and dull as concrete, completely unable to receive any of the gems he was offering. It all just bounced off me. And sometimes when I *was* feeling " on, " with a million questions about the minutia of sadhana, he was preoccupied with mundane daily matters of home and family, and had nothing much to give. But every once in a while, we fell into synch ... he was broadcasting with high wattage; I was receiving with a clear mind. On one such occasion, I mentioned my many frustrations in trying to raise the kundalini, and asked him -- clearly a man who had opened all of his chakras years ago! -- what was his secret. He said, very simply and honestly, " I have no idea. I have tried and tried, but I am not one of these lucky souls who can manipulate her up and down, and experience all these exciting things. She just lies there, curled and and snoring, and I have had to learn to do the best I can without her. " When I read your comment, " Devi must find me too thick headed and sleepy to give me visions. The way many people post in this list, I feel they all must be already liberated and I have much much to learn. Pl help me. " ... I immediately thought, " Hey, this guy is okay! " *lol* I am prejudiced now, I guess. Serious sadhaks who seem genuinely convinced that they know nothing now often strike me as the ones most worth listening to. DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Gramatically I feel both are possible though FOR ME from the point of view of mental compatiblity 'Dative case' (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is found very very satisfying.  By the way I read your aside about visions. . I have no comments other than to bow to you.  I like your style of teaching by asking. --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree wrote: Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree Re: Re: What is it? Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 7:10 PM  My humble Namaskarams to every one there, I have a doubt regarding Khadgamala Stotram. I see we have many scholarly members here. I appeal to them to clear my doubt. We have 'Jayaanta maala - all three types viz., shuddhashakti, shuddhashiva, shuddhashivashaktim ithuna. Now, in some versions, jaya jaya is preceded by 'Vocative case' (Sambodhana Prathamaa); for e.g. SamkshobhiN Jaya Jaya (in Shuddha Shiva Maalaa). In some versions, 'Dative case' (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is used; for e.g. SamkshobhiNe Jaya Jaya. My doubt is which one is correct. In Hindi, one says 'Mahatma Gandhi ki Jai'. This is quite close to Genitive case (ShashThI Vibhakti). Normally whenever we offer something to someone for keeps sake, we use dative case like 'tubhyam namah'. raamaaya namah, shivaaya namah. It is not shivam namah, ramam namh etc. When we use the nama as a verb, accusative case is used like raamam namaami.In english also, we would say 'victory to thee' which can be close to the Sanskrit dative case. But, in Stotras like 'Mahishaasuramardin i Stotra', we clearly employ the 'vocative case';  for e.g. Jaya Jaya Hae Mahishaasuramardini .....Shailasute' .. Can the learned forum help me in resolving this issue? My request. I have other doubts too regarding the rule of tithi to be followed. I shall raise it next. Thanks every one. JR, the ignorant.    ____________ _________ _________ __ DB <devi_bhakta@ > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:24:25 PM Re: What is it?  Could be the finger of Devi Herself. Could be an early indicator of male pattern baldness. Best thing for your sadhana, in either case, is to continue your jaap and not worry too much about it. DB , ekambaram ramachandran <ekambaramr@ ....> wrote: [...] When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my head. It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just like that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Namaskarams About the tithis on which Khadgamala is to be recited. Everyone knows there are five variants and three categories of Khadmala. The variants are where the endings after each name varies like sambudhyanta (vocative or invoking the Deity), namo-anta (propitiating the Deity), swaha-anta (offering sacrifice), tarpana-anta (oblations with water) and jaya-anta (hailing victory to the Deity). The three categories are Shakti, Shiva and Shiva-Shakti-mithuna. All the three categories have the above mentioned five variants, thus making the body of Khadgamala Mantra with 15 mala-mantras. Each variant is to be recited on a particular lunar phase. Let us commence with Shukla-Prathamaa. Waxing Phase, first phase through fifth phase, we do 'Shuddha-Shakti' in this manner - 1st day sambuddhi, 2nd day Namo-anta, 3rd day Swaha-anta, 4th day tarpana-anta, 5th day Jaya-anta; from sixth phase to tenth phase it is 'shuddha-shiva' again sambuddhi, namo-anta etc., one per day and from 11th phase till Full Moon it is Shiva Shakti mithuna with Sambuddhi, Namah etc. During waning phase, from 1st phase till 5th, it is mithuna, 6th to 10th it is shuddha shiva and 11th till No Moon (Amaavaasya) it is Shuddha Shakti. Thus in 15 days, one covers all the 15 Khadgamaalaas and reverses the order during the next 15 days. So far fine. The rule is, you follow the lunar tithis. My doubt is about determining the tithi on any particular day. There are different sampradayas for this too. For Devata puja, you go by the lunar tithi that prevails at sun rise; for pitr-karmas like shraaddha, pitr tarpana, you go by the lunar tithi that covers the day period-say from 10 a.m till 3 or 4 pm and for vratas which prescribe Chandra darshana (like Sankata-hara-chaturthi, Pournami vrata etc), you go by the lunar tithi prevailing at sun set. The problem comes when we have tithi-dwayam on the same day, tri-dina-sprk on the same day and when there is a shunya tithi. I generally adopt the tithi that is prevalent at sun rise for Khadgamala as I am doing only nitya-parayana-yajanam, but important Devi temples nearby adopt a different tithi on the same day. Though this does not occur on a daily basis, it is not infrequent. What should be the tithi we should adopt? This is my question. We actually should follow Ashtaangam (shakta-almanac) instead of Panchangam. There are very few people who compute Ashtaangam and the almanac is not easily available. Most humbly - JR      ________________________________ sankara menon <kochu1tz Wed, March 3, 2010 9:26:29 AM Re: Re: What is it?  Gramatically I feel both are possible though FOR ME from the point of view of mental compatiblity 'Dative case' (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is found very very satisfying.  By the way I read your aside about visions. . I have no comments other than to bow to you.  I like your style of teaching by asking. --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree@ > wrote: Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree@ > Re: Re: What is it? Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 7:10 PM  My humble Namaskarams to every one there, I have a doubt regarding Khadgamala Stotram. I see we have many scholarly members here. I appeal to them to clear my doubt. We have 'Jayaanta maala - all three types viz., shuddhashakti, shuddhashiva, shuddhashivashaktim ithuna. Now, in some versions, jaya jaya is preceded by 'Vocative case' (Sambodhana Prathamaa); for e.g. SamkshobhiN Jaya Jaya (in Shuddha Shiva Maalaa). In some versions, 'Dative case' (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is used; for e.g. SamkshobhiNe Jaya Jaya. My doubt is which one is correct. In Hindi, one says 'Mahatma Gandhi ki Jai'. This is quite close to Genitive case (ShashThI Vibhakti). Normally whenever we offer something to someone for keeps sake, we use dative case like 'tubhyam namah'. raamaaya namah, shivaaya namah. It is not shivam namah, ramam namh etc. When we use the nama as a verb, accusative case is used like raamam namaami.In english also, we would say 'victory to thee' which can be close to the Sanskrit dative case. But, in Stotras like 'Mahishaasuramardin i Stotra', we clearly employ the 'vocative case';  for e.g. Jaya Jaya Hae Mahishaasuramardini .....Shailasute' .. Can the learned forum help me in resolving this issue? My request. I have other doubts too regarding the rule of tithi to be followed. I shall raise it next. Thanks every one. JR, the ignorant.    ____________ _________ _________ __ DB <devi_bhakta@ > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:24:25 PM Re: What is it?  Could be the finger of Devi Herself. Could be an early indicator of male pattern baldness. Best thing for your sadhana, in either case, is to continue your jaap and not worry too much about it. DB , ekambaram ramachandran <ekambaramr@ ....> wrote: [...] When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my head. It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just like that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Stotras are often vocative because you are addressing God/dess directly. You are calling out the deity by name, and at the same time addressing the qualities of the deity through that naming. It is direct second person address. Dative is the object or person to whom something is given, generally used when speaking in third person (i.e. he or she rather than I, first person, or you, second person), but can also be in direct address. For instance, tubhyam, " to you, " which is the dative form of tvam (you). Accusative is the object given or the noun modified by the subject (which is the nominative). There's a lot implied through word placement, declension and conjugation in Sanskrit, so things like verbs, subjects and objects are often missing in simple construction. If you were to say, i give praise to durga, then " durga " would be dative and " praise " would be accusative. om durgaayai namah durgaayai is feminine and dative, namah here is neuter and accusative. Both are singular. The subject " I " and also the noun are implied, which is permissible in Sanskrit. Another example, from the start of the sri sri kamakhya pranama mantra: kamakhye varade... These are vocative, because you are addressing the Goddess directly. etc. I hope this is helpful. -kulasundari Sri Kamakhya Mahavidya Mandir www.kamakhyamandir.org On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshreewrote: > > > My humble Namaskarams to every one there, > I have a doubt regarding Khadgamala Stotram. I see we have many scholarly > members here. I appeal to them to clear my doubt. > > We have 'Jayaanta maala - all three types viz., shuddhashakti, > shuddhashiva, shuddhashivashaktimithuna. Now, in some versions, jaya jaya is > preceded by 'Vocative case' (Sambodhana Prathamaa); for e.g. SamkshobhiN > Jaya Jaya (in Shuddha Shiva Maalaa). In some versions, 'Dative case' > (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is used; for e.g. SamkshobhiNe Jaya Jaya. My doubt is > which one is correct. > > In Hindi, one says 'Mahatma Gandhi ki Jai'. This is quite close to Genitive > case (ShashThI Vibhakti). Normally whenever we offer something to someone > for keeps sake, we use dative case like 'tubhyam namah'. raamaaya namah, > shivaaya namah. It is not shivam namah, ramam namh etc. When we use the nama > as a verb, accusative case is used like raamam namaami.In english also, we > would say 'victory to thee' which can be close to the Sanskrit dative case. > > But, in Stotras like 'Mahishaasuramardini Stotra', we clearly employ the > 'vocative case'; for e.g. Jaya Jaya Hae > Mahishaasuramardini.....Shailasute' . > > Can the learned forum help me in resolving this issue? My request. I have > other doubts too regarding the rule of tithi to be followed. I shall raise > it next. > > Thanks every one. > JR, the ignorant. > > > ________________________________ > DB <devi_bhakta <devi_bhakta%40>> > <%40> > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:24:25 PM > Re: What is it? > > > > Could be the finger of Devi Herself. Could be an early indicator of male > pattern baldness. > > Best thing for your sadhana, in either case, is to continue your jaap and > not worry too much about it. > > DB > > , ekambaram ramachandran > <ekambaramr@ ...> wrote: > [...] When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem > Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my head. > It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is > this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I > stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just like > that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). [...] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Kulasundari ji In Sanskrit, dative can be first person, second person and third person e.g. mahyam, tubhyam, tasmai. I have taken masculine gender for example. It can also be for all genders and in ekavachanam, dwivachanam and bahuvachanam...>Dative is the object or person to whom something is given, generally used when speaking in third person (i.e. he or she rather than I, first person, or you, second person...< Namah is what we call 'avyayam' and not accusative (dwitiyaa vibhakti)....>namah here is neuter and accusative< There are lot many stotras which are in nominative case and need not necessarily be vocative case unless one is addressing the Deity. For instance, the entire body of sahasranamas are in nominative case only. Your example of Kamaakhye, Varade is 100% correct. They are in the vocative case (sambodhana). I beg to differ with what you have stated (quoted forward). There is no predicate or rather verb in the string 'om durgaayai namah' Hence 'I' is not implied. If the same string was 'om durgaayai namah karomi', then 'I' is implied. It could also be 'om durgaayai namah karoti, karishi, kurudhwam, kuruta, karotu, kurma, chakaara, kaarsheeh etc depending on which we can imply a suitable subject. As the string is not predicated, the subject cannot be tken as implied. This follows the tarka-nyaaya 'kaaryakaranasya abhaave kartrabhaavah' ...>om durgaayai namah...The subject " I " and also the noun are implied, which is permissible in Sanskrit<... Whatever I have stated above is NOT for the purpose of modifying your understanding of Sanskrit NOR to assert my view on this. Adyaapi aham samskrta-bhaashaayaah vidyaarthI eva bhavaami, bhavishyaami cha, yadyapi mayaa bhaashaa panchadashavrshaavadhi adheetaa kaavya-meemaamsaa-tarkairalankrtaa. My humble pranaams - JR ________________________________ Kulasundari Devi <sundari Thu, March 4, 2010 1:08:45 AM Re: Re: What is it? Stotras are often vocative because you are addressing God/dess directly. You are calling out the deity by name, and at the same time addressing the qualities of the deity through that naming. It is direct second person address. Dative is the object or person to whom something is given, generally used when speaking in third person (i.e. he or she rather than I, first person, or you, second person), but can also be in direct address. For instance, tubhyam, " to you, " which is the dative form of tvam (you). Accusative is the object given or the noun modified by the subject (which is the nominative). There's a lot implied through word placement, declension and conjugation in Sanskrit, so things like verbs, subjects and objects are often missing in simple construction. If you were to say, i give praise to durga, then " durga " would be dative and " praise " would be accusative. om durgaayai namah durgaayai is feminine and dative, namah here is neuter and accusative. Both are singular. The subject " I " and also the noun are implied, which is permissible in Sanskrit. Another example, from the start of the sri sri kamakhya pranama mantra: kamakhye varade... These are vocative, because you are addressing the Goddess directly. etc. I hope this is helpful. -kulasundari Sri Kamakhya Mahavidya Mandir www.kamakhyamandir.org On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshreewrote: > > > My humble Namaskarams to every one there, > I have a doubt regarding Khadgamala Stotram. I see we have many scholarly > members here. I appeal to them to clear my doubt. > > We have 'Jayaanta maala - all three types viz., shuddhashakti, > shuddhashiva, shuddhashivashaktimithuna. Now, in some versions, jaya jaya is > preceded by 'Vocative case' (Sambodhana Prathamaa); for e.g. SamkshobhiN > Jaya Jaya (in Shuddha Shiva Maalaa). In some versions, 'Dative case' > (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is used; for e.g. SamkshobhiNe Jaya Jaya. My doubt is > which one is correct. > > In Hindi, one says 'Mahatma Gandhi ki Jai'. This is quite close to Genitive > case (ShashThI Vibhakti). Normally whenever we offer something to someone > for keeps sake, we use dative case like 'tubhyam namah'. raamaaya namah, > shivaaya namah. It is not shivam namah, ramam namh etc. When we use the nama > as a verb, accusative case is used like raamam namaami.In english also, we > would say 'victory to thee' which can be close to the Sanskrit dative case. > > But, in Stotras like 'Mahishaasuramardini Stotra', we clearly employ the > 'vocative case'; for e.g. Jaya Jaya Hae > Mahishaasuramardini.....Shailasute' . > > Can the learned forum help me in resolving this issue? My request. I have > other doubts too regarding the rule of tithi to be followed. I shall raise > it next. > > Thanks every one. > JR, the ignorant. > > > ________________________________ > DB <devi_bhakta <devi_bhakta%40>> > <%40> > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:24:25 PM > Re: What is it? > > > > Could be the finger of Devi Herself. Could be an early indicator of male > pattern baldness. > > Best thing for your sadhana, in either case, is to continue your jaap and > not worry too much about it. > > DB > > , ekambaram ramachandran > <ekambaramr@ ...> wrote: > [...] When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem > Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my head. > It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is > this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I > stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just like > that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 You seem to have all the answers... so why are you asking? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshreewrote: > > > Kulasundari ji > In Sanskrit, dative can be first person, second person and third person > e.g. mahyam, tubhyam, tasmai. I have taken masculine gender for example. It > can also be for all genders and in ekavachanam, dwivachanam and > bahuvachanam...>Dative is the object or person to whom something is given, > generally used when speaking in third person (i.e. he or she rather than I, > first person, or you, second person...< > > Namah is what we call 'avyayam' and not accusative (dwitiyaa > vibhakti)....>namah here is neuter and accusative< > > There are lot many stotras which are in nominative case and need not > necessarily be vocative case unless one is addressing the Deity. For > instance, the entire body of sahasranamas are in nominative case only. > > Your example of Kamaakhye, Varade is 100% correct. They are in the vocative > case (sambodhana). > > I beg to differ with what you have stated (quoted forward). There is no > predicate or rather verb in the string 'om durgaayai namah' Hence 'I' is not > implied. If the same string was 'om durgaayai namah karomi', then 'I' is > implied. It could also be 'om durgaayai namah karoti, karishi, kurudhwam, > kuruta, karotu, kurma, chakaara, kaarsheeh etc depending on which we can > imply a suitable subject. As the string is not predicated, the subject > cannot be tken as implied. This follows the tarka-nyaaya 'kaaryakaranasya > abhaave kartrabhaavah' ...>om durgaayai namah...The subject " I " and also the > noun are implied, which is permissible in Sanskrit<... > > Whatever I have stated above is NOT for the purpose of modifying your > understanding of Sanskrit NOR to assert my view on this. Adyaapi aham > samskrta-bhaashaayaah vidyaarthI eva bhavaami, bhavishyaami cha, yadyapi > mayaa bhaashaa panchadashavrshaavadhi adheetaa > kaavya-meemaamsaa-tarkairalankrtaa. > > My humble pranaams - JR > > ________________________________ > Kulasundari Devi <sundari<sundari%40kamakhyamandir.org> > > > > <%40> > Thu, March 4, 2010 1:08:45 AM > Re: Re: What is it? > > > Stotras are often vocative because you are addressing God/dess directly. > You > are calling out the deity by name, and at the same time addressing the > qualities of the deity through that naming. It is direct second person > address. > > Dative is the object or person to whom something is given, generally used > when speaking in third person (i.e. he or she rather than I, first person, > or you, second person), but can also be in direct address. For instance, > tubhyam, " to you, " which is the dative form of tvam (you). > > Accusative is the object given or the noun modified by the subject (which > is > the nominative). There's a lot implied through word placement, declension > and conjugation in Sanskrit, so things like verbs, subjects and objects are > often missing in simple construction. > > If you were to say, i give praise to durga, then " durga " would be dative > and > " praise " would be accusative. > > om durgaayai namah > > durgaayai is feminine and dative, namah here is neuter and accusative. Both > are singular. The subject " I " and also the noun are implied, which is > permissible in Sanskrit. > > Another example, from the start of the sri sri kamakhya pranama mantra: > > kamakhye varade... > > These are vocative, because you are addressing the Goddess directly. > > etc. > > I hope this is helpful. > > -kulasundari > > Sri Kamakhya Mahavidya Mandir > www.kamakhyamandir.org > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree<jayaarshree%40> > >wrote: > > > > > > > My humble Namaskarams to every one there, > > I have a doubt regarding Khadgamala Stotram. I see we have many scholarly > > members here. I appeal to them to clear my doubt. > > > > We have 'Jayaanta maala - all three types viz., shuddhashakti, > > shuddhashiva, shuddhashivashaktimithuna. Now, in some versions, jaya jaya > is > > preceded by 'Vocative case' (Sambodhana Prathamaa); for e.g. SamkshobhiN > > Jaya Jaya (in Shuddha Shiva Maalaa). In some versions, 'Dative case' > > (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is used; for e.g. SamkshobhiNe Jaya Jaya. My doubt > is > > which one is correct. > > > > In Hindi, one says 'Mahatma Gandhi ki Jai'. This is quite close to > Genitive > > case (ShashThI Vibhakti). Normally whenever we offer something to someone > > for keeps sake, we use dative case like 'tubhyam namah'. raamaaya namah, > > shivaaya namah. It is not shivam namah, ramam namh etc. When we use the > nama > > as a verb, accusative case is used like raamam namaami.In english also, > we > > would say 'victory to thee' which can be close to the Sanskrit dative > case. > > > > But, in Stotras like 'Mahishaasuramardini Stotra', we clearly employ the > > 'vocative case'; for e.g. Jaya Jaya Hae > > Mahishaasuramardini.....Shailasute' . > > > > Can the learned forum help me in resolving this issue? My request. I have > > other doubts too regarding the rule of tithi to be followed. I shall > raise > > it next. > > > > Thanks every one. > > JR, the ignorant. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > DB <devi_bhakta <devi_bhakta%40> <devi_bhakta% > 40>> > > <%40><% > 40> > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:24:25 PM > > Re: What is it? > > > > > > > > Could be the finger of Devi Herself. Could be an early indicator of male > > pattern baldness. > > > > Best thing for your sadhana, in either case, is to continue your jaap and > > not worry too much about it. > > > > DB > > > > , ekambaram ramachandran > > <ekambaramr@ ...> wrote: > > [...] When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem > > Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my > head. > > It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is > > this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I > > stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just > like > > that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). [...] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Those who feel something are blessed. But, if you " look " at all their experiences, they come from without. They are able to feel the external stimuli. If Devi is within, how can one " feel " HER? It is part of their being. That is what is happening to you, JR. :-) The knowledge you've shared with us and the simple explanations are ample evidence of the presence of HER inside you. Do not spend your time looking outside for the presence of Devi. My humble 2 cents and namaskarams. G , Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree wrote: > > Hi All Enlightened Souls > I have been practising SV for quite some years - I do not know rightly or wrongly. Devi has not been kind enough to bestow on me any kind of experiences. Maybe because, I fall asleep very deeply the moment I go to bed and get up only in the morning for my ablutions and Devi must find me too thick headed and sleepy to give me visions. The way many people post in this list, I feel they all must be already liberated and I have much much to learn. Pl help me. > JR > > > > > ________________________________ > DB <devi_bhakta > > Tue, March 2, 2010 8:35:54 AM > Re: What is it? > > Â > Thank you, kulasundari, for elegantly rescuing me from my own bad joke. :-) Your explanation below rephrases my underlying point quite beautifully. > > I would only add that, even where the reasons for the tingling/buzzing/ visions/etc are *not* purely physiological -- that is, even where subtle energies have been activated and are manifesting in various ways, as they will -- they should not be given an undue amount of weight and attention. Mantras, of course, work on any number of levels and one should not be surprised to physically sense their activities now and then. Enjoy them! They can be exciting and interesting. Just don't mistake the sideshows for the main event. > > aim mAtangyai namaH > > , Kulasundari Devi <sundari@ > wrote: > [...] I think what Devi Bhakta was trying to convey is that one shouldn't pay too much attention to these kinds of things - physical sensations, colors, flashing lights, etc. There are any number of perfectly explainable physiological reasons why such a thing could be happening, the mantras being coincidental, and it's best not to let one's imagination run away. [...] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Hi ganpra Nice hearing from you after a long time. Yes, I agree with you. Devi is inside me just as she is inside everything conceivable and not conceivable. Nothing special. 'veda-aham-etam-purusham-mahaantam-aaditya-varnam-tamasastupaare'. 'aham-vishwam-bhuvanam-abhyubhawaam; suwarnajyotIh; ya evam veda; ityupanishad'. 'asaavaadityo-brahma; brahma-eva-aham-asmi'. Pranaama - JR ________________________________ ganpra <ganpra Thu, March 4, 2010 4:00:02 PM Re: What is it?  Those who feel something are blessed. But, if you " look " at all their experiences, they come from without. They are able to feel the external stimuli. If Devi is within, how can one " feel " HER? It is part of their being. That is what is happening to you, JR. :-) The knowledge you've shared with us and the simple explanations are ample evidence of the presence of HER inside you. Do not spend your time looking outside for the presence of Devi. My humble 2 cents and namaskarams. G , Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree@ ...> wrote: > > Hi All Enlightened Souls > I have been practising SV for quite some years - I do not know rightly or wrongly. Devi has not been kind enough to bestow on me any kind of experiences. Maybe because, I fall asleep very deeply the moment I go to bed and get up only in the morning for my ablutions and Devi must find me too thick headed and sleepy to give me visions. The way many people post in this list, I feel they all must be already liberated and I have much much to learn. Pl help me. > JR > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > DB <devi_bhakta@ ...> > > Tue, March 2, 2010 8:35:54 AM > Re: What is it? > >  > Thank you, kulasundari, for elegantly rescuing me from my own bad joke. :-) Your explanation below rephrases my underlying point quite beautifully. > > I would only add that, even where the reasons for the tingling/buzzing/ visions/etc are *not* purely physiological -- that is, even where subtle energies have been activated and are manifesting in various ways, as they will -- they should not be given an undue amount of weight and attention. Mantras, of course, work on any number of levels and one should not be surprised to physically sense their activities now and then. Enjoy them! They can be exciting and interesting. Just don't mistake the sideshows for the main event. > > aim mAtangyai namaH > > , Kulasundari Devi <sundari@ > wrote: > [...] I think what Devi Bhakta was trying to convey is that one shouldn't pay too much attention to these kinds of things - physical sensations, colors, flashing lights, etc. There are any number of perfectly explainable physiological reasons why such a thing could be happening, the mantras being coincidental, and it's best not to let one's imagination run away. [...] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 My dear Kulasundariji It is in my ignorance that I seem to have all the answers which leads to much confusion. Also dialectics and polemics are an integral part of mantra shaastra and vedanta. You take Bhaskararaya Makhi, Adi Shankara or any other great commentator; they spend a lot of their time on arguing or justifying the vyutpattis, vibhaktis, samasas, connotations, pada-artha, bhava-artha, tatwa-artha to the finest degree. Reason: they are dealing with letters and words of mantras which are vagdevi's manifestation and need to be learnt, grasped, understood, committed to memory, ruminated and made part of our DNA. I am sorry that I could not make myself clear as to my purpose of asking. Anyway, I got my answer from Kochu. I also feel happy about your feedback. Thanx. Most humbly, JR ________________________________ Kulasundari Devi <sundari Thu, March 4, 2010 12:09:41 PM Re: Re: What is it? You seem to have all the answers... so why are you asking? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshreewrote: > > > Kulasundari ji > In Sanskrit, dative can be first person, second person and third person > e.g. mahyam, tubhyam, tasmai. I have taken masculine gender for example. It > can also be for all genders and in ekavachanam, dwivachanam and > bahuvachanam...>Dative is the object or person to whom something is given, > generally used when speaking in third person (i.e. he or she rather than I, > first person, or you, second person...< > > Namah is what we call 'avyayam' and not accusative (dwitiyaa > vibhakti)....>namah here is neuter and accusative< > > There are lot many stotras which are in nominative case and need not > necessarily be vocative case unless one is addressing the Deity. For > instance, the entire body of sahasranamas are in nominative case only. > > Your example of Kamaakhye, Varade is 100% correct. They are in the vocative > case (sambodhana). > > I beg to differ with what you have stated (quoted forward). There is no > predicate or rather verb in the string 'om durgaayai namah' Hence 'I' is not > implied. If the same string was 'om durgaayai namah karomi', then 'I' is > implied. It could also be 'om durgaayai namah karoti, karishi, kurudhwam, > kuruta, karotu, kurma, chakaara, kaarsheeh etc depending on which we can > imply a suitable subject. As the string is not predicated, the subject > cannot be tken as implied. This follows the tarka-nyaaya 'kaaryakaranasya > abhaave kartrabhaavah' ...>om durgaayai namah...The subject " I " and also the > noun are implied, which is permissible in Sanskrit<... > > Whatever I have stated above is NOT for the purpose of modifying your > understanding of Sanskrit NOR to assert my view on this. Adyaapi aham > samskrta-bhaashaayaah vidyaarthI eva bhavaami, bhavishyaami cha, yadyapi > mayaa bhaashaa panchadashavrshaavadhi adheetaa > kaavya-meemaamsaa-tarkairalankrtaa. > > My humble pranaams - JR > > ________________________________ > Kulasundari Devi <sundari<sundari%40kamakhyamandir.org> > > > > <%40> > Thu, March 4, 2010 1:08:45 AM > Re: Re: What is it? > > > Stotras are often vocative because you are addressing God/dess directly. > You > are calling out the deity by name, and at the same time addressing the > qualities of the deity through that naming. It is direct second person > address. > > Dative is the object or person to whom something is given, generally used > when speaking in third person (i.e. he or she rather than I, first person, > or you, second person), but can also be in direct address. For instance, > tubhyam, " to you, " which is the dative form of tvam (you). > > Accusative is the object given or the noun modified by the subject (which > is > the nominative). There's a lot implied through word placement, declension > and conjugation in Sanskrit, so things like verbs, subjects and objects are > often missing in simple construction. > > If you were to say, i give praise to durga, then " durga " would be dative > and > " praise " would be accusative. > > om durgaayai namah > > durgaayai is feminine and dative, namah here is neuter and accusative. Both > are singular. The subject " I " and also the noun are implied, which is > permissible in Sanskrit. > > Another example, from the start of the sri sri kamakhya pranama mantra: > > kamakhye varade... > > These are vocative, because you are addressing the Goddess directly. > > etc. > > I hope this is helpful. > > -kulasundari > > Sri Kamakhya Mahavidya Mandir > www.kamakhyamandir.org > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree<jayaarshree%40> > >wrote: > > > > > > > My humble Namaskarams to every one there, > > I have a doubt regarding Khadgamala Stotram. I see we have many scholarly > > members here. I appeal to them to clear my doubt. > > > > We have 'Jayaanta maala - all three types viz., shuddhashakti, > > shuddhashiva, shuddhashivashaktimithuna. Now, in some versions, jaya jaya > is > > preceded by 'Vocative case' (Sambodhana Prathamaa); for e.g. SamkshobhiN > > Jaya Jaya (in Shuddha Shiva Maalaa). In some versions, 'Dative case' > > (ChaturthI Vibhakti) is used; for e.g. SamkshobhiNe Jaya Jaya. My doubt > is > > which one is correct. > > > > In Hindi, one says 'Mahatma Gandhi ki Jai'. This is quite close to > Genitive > > case (ShashThI Vibhakti). Normally whenever we offer something to someone > > for keeps sake, we use dative case like 'tubhyam namah'. raamaaya namah, > > shivaaya namah. It is not shivam namah, ramam namh etc. When we use the > nama > > as a verb, accusative case is used like raamam namaami.In english also, > we > > would say 'victory to thee' which can be close to the Sanskrit dative > case. > > > > But, in Stotras like 'Mahishaasuramardini Stotra', we clearly employ the > > 'vocative case'; for e.g. Jaya Jaya Hae > > Mahishaasuramardini.....Shailasute' . > > > > Can the learned forum help me in resolving this issue? My request. I have > > other doubts too regarding the rule of tithi to be followed. I shall > raise > > it next. > > > > Thanks every one. > > JR, the ignorant. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > DB <devi_bhakta <devi_bhakta%40> <devi_bhakta% > 40>> > > <%40><% > 40> > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:24:25 PM > > Re: What is it? > > > > > > > > Could be the finger of Devi Herself. Could be an early indicator of male > > pattern baldness. > > > > Best thing for your sadhana, in either case, is to continue your jaap and > > not worry too much about it. > > > > DB > > > > , ekambaram ramachandran > > <ekambaramr@ ...> wrote: > > [...] When I chant Om Aim Mahakaaliyey, Hreem Mahalakshmiyey, Kleem > > Mahasaraswathiyey Namah. I get a tickling or a sensation on top of my > head. > > It is as if someone is circling a finger very slowly and gently. What is > > this. It happens when I chant this aloud. It kind of slowly ceases when I > > stop chanting this and get on to other chanting. It also happens just > like > > that(for example, it happened as I was writing this email too). [...] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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