Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Oh, mind, submerge yourself. Sink deep into that Ocean Beyond All Form. If you search in the very deepest depths you will see the treasure there, the jewels of love. If you sink in this Ocean, you will not die. You will find the Nectar of Eternal Bliss Ramakrishna - The Nectar of Eternal Bliss Come share the bliss at http://www.ShreeMaa.orgOm, we meditate on the Eternal Measurement of Consciousness, we contemplate She who illuminates wisdom. May that Shree Maa grant us increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 It is said that satsang of the guru is of paramount importance, because with that begins our good days, and all good else will flow from just that association. Even if we do not have good qualities, (and we don't), in time we will get dyed in the hue of the master. We must have a guru. Some have said that catching the mind is like trying to get hold of a tiny ant on a black rock on the darkest night. In other words, we cannot do it. Also, the intricacies of the mind/creation are so subtle and complex that we are like blind people who are lost in a big noisy city and cannot effectively navigate from there to someplace we just heard exists, but do not know the address. We in the west are expecially impoverished and backward because we do not know how cultivate and treat the guru. In India, they know the value of the guru and therefore support and cultivate them, as one might a wish granting tree. They are protective of their safety, house them, feed them, arrange transportation and do all things that enable them to help the sangat. The guru becomes a sort of prisoner, but like all great lovers, does not complain and just keeps giving. With support of the sangat, the guru can grow and spread his emanations into the sangat. In the west, we do not cultivate the benefit of the guru. We somehow expect them to do everything for us...period. We miss out on the benefit of seva (service to the guru), and we do create facillities that more easily allow the guru's benefits to radiate to us. All in all, we westerners are pathetic disciples, but then we have not been at it long. In order to gain spiritually, it is in our interest to increase our support and service to the guru. That is not just economic. It is doing the spiritual work so that their load and atmosphere is lighter when they are around us. Russell Need Mail bonding?Go to the Mail Q&A for great tips from Answers users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Jai Maa Russell, Some of your words reflect my thoughts in so far as we, or more correctly i, do not believe that i know the correct way of paying respect to Guru and that we need to do whatever we can to lighten the load of the Guru. The path to the true Guru is not as clear cut as the road to the finite pleasures which are so easily accessible in the west. It is a great blessing to be found by a a true Guru and i pray that Beloved Guru would bless us in ways that we understand, exactly how to respect and serve Her. Jai Maa , Russell Shields <rshieldslaw wrote: > > It is said that satsang of the guru is of paramount importance, because with that begins our good days, and all good else will flow from just that association. Even if we do not have good qualities, (and we don't), in time we will get dyed in the hue of the master. > > We must have a guru. Some have said that catching the mind is like trying to get hold of a tiny ant on a black rock on the darkest night. In other words, we cannot do it. Also, the intricacies of the mind/creation are so subtle and complex that we are like blind people who are lost in a big noisy city and cannot effectively navigate from there to someplace we just heard exists, but do not know the address. > > We in the west are expecially impoverished and backward because we do not know how cultivate and treat the guru. In India, they know the value of the guru and therefore support and cultivate them, as one might a wish granting tree. They are protective of their safety, house them, feed them, arrange transportation and do all things that enable them to help the sangat. The guru becomes a sort of prisoner, but like all great lovers, does not complain and just keeps giving. With support of the sangat, the guru can grow and spread his emanations into the sangat. In the west, we do not cultivate the benefit of the guru. We somehow expect them to do everything for us...period. We miss out on the benefit of seva (service to the guru), and we do create facillities that more easily allow the guru's benefits to radiate to us. All in all, we westerners are pathetic disciples, but then we have not been at it long. > > In order to gain spiritually, it is in our interest to increase our support and service to the guru. That is not just economic. It is doing the spiritual work so that their load and atmosphere is lighter when they are around us. > > Russell > > > > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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