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Dear Tanmaya,

 

thank you for your wise and beautiful words. I know the book you

mention. You have helped me more than I can say,

 

with love,

Henny

 

, " ty_maa " <dsjames wrote:

>

>

> Dear Henny,

>

> " My Father's House has many mansions. "

>

> Hinduism and Christianity, as we know them, are two rooms in my

Father's

> House. The beloved child of the Home can move freely and joyfully

from

> room to room.

>

> When-at a very definite moment in my life-it became clear that now

it is

> time for me to become serious about religion, I began my search, not

for

> a tradition, but for a person who had had direct experience of God.

I

> told even my friends in the world at the time when I was leaving

that I

> may find such a person in the Christian tradition-with which I was

> familier-or in Buddhism, Hinduism, or something else, it didn't

matter

> where, as long as that person was God-realized. I began saving

money,

> thinking that my search may take me quite far.

>

> I was about to leave for Southern California, where I had heard that

> there was a possibility, when I remembered a small peaceful and

> unassuming temple of some Indian-type of religion. I had been born

two

> blocks from that temple and always lived not far from it. I had

often

> taken walks in that neighborhood, always manageing to pass it,

> especially when going through the ups and downs of adolescence.

>

> I had always thought it was something like Indian

Unitarianism-something

> more or less eclectic, doctrinal and intellectual. Oddly enough,

there

> was no real reason for that assumption, except that it was always

very

> quiet. There was a silence around the whole place and the grounds

within

> the walls, and even the immediate neighborhood.

>

> So I walked through the doors during one of the announced services,

and

> immediately felt what I had not felt previously in this lifetime,

but

> which I was in search of: the palpable Presence of God. It was all

> through the temple/hall, and especially coming from the Indian man

> quietly speaking at the podium, dressed in ochre-colored clerical

garb.

>

> I didn't ask for a conversation with that Swami for several weeks,

but,

> when I did, he recomended in the course of conversation, that I get

a

> copy of Brother Lawrence's Practice of the Presence of God. I found

> later that it was not just because of my familiarity with

Christianity,

> but that he recommended the little book to everyone.

>

> ....And later, in reading the life of Sri Ramakrishna, all sectarian

> walls began to dissolve.

>

> It may be that it is really only Presence, in the various meanings

of

> the word, which convinces fully and finally.

>

>

> Affectionately,

>

> Tanmaya

>

>

>

>

> , " henny_v_i " <henny_v_i@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vish, Tanmaya and all,

> >

> > the story about the watch has given me much food for thought.

> > Especially the part where it says: " Then, one day he suddenly left

the

> > monastery. There was no particular reason; it just seemed to him

to be

> > the right thing to do. "

> > Lately, I have had some doubts of my own and perhaps it is a good

> > thing to put them on the table now, before they become too big to

> > handle and running away seems the right thing to do. I hope those

who

> > read this will understand I do not mean to be disrespectful to

Shree

> > Maa or Swamiji, or their teachings, in any way.

> > Over the past year or so, I have made an effort to familiarize

myself

> > with the teachings and practices Shree Maa and Swamiji so

generously

> > share with us. I learnt how to do puja, how to recite, how to

chant. I

> > read most of the books, and listened to Maa's songs all the time.

I

> > learned to love Her and Swamiji more and more. So I was overjoyed

that

> > now with the webcam, I could finally see the celebrations and

attend

> > classes.

> > But now a strange thing has happened: to watch the celebrations

did

> > not make me particularly happy. It rather made me sad, as I was

> > shocked to discover. Partly, this was because I could not

physically

> > be there, and felt isolated at my desk on my own, but for the

greater

> > part it was that I felt an outsider in another way. I felt as if I

had

> > tried to learn a new language and suddenly realized I would never

be

> > able to pass for a native speaker. As if a gap had appeared inside

> > which I could not cross. And as the days passed, and more

celebrations

> > and classes followed, I found myself longing for the crisp cool

sounds

> > of Gregorian chant and for the 'language' of the tradition I was

> > raised in. I longed for the stories I know and for the familiar

words.

> > I felt homesick for the psalms and the saints who have inspired me

> > through the years, and instead of Maa Durga on Her lion, in

meditation

> > I thought of the Mother of God crowned with Glory. And as I

performed

> > puja, every word acquired new meaning, because it made perfect

sense

> > applied both to Shiva and to the Lord Jesus. I saw Maa reflected

in

> > Mary, Mary in Maa.

> > Now, recently it has been said here (by you, Vish?) that Maa

> > celebrates Christmas and Eastern which as much devotion as

Shivaratri

> > or other festivals. I have seen Swamiji perform both puja and mass

at

> > Christmas. But They know things that I do not and Their

consciousness

> > embraces all. There is no conflict. But I struggle with this:

although

> > I know that to love God is all, no matter the name or form we

choose.

> > But is it possible to combine two 'languages' for the simple

devotee

> > without becoming hopelessly confused? Once a member of this family

> > told me it is better to stick to one tradition, at least if you

mean

> > business (I paraphrase), and I understand why this is so. But the

> > heart has its own ideas and has started to speak now in this

language,

> > now in that. Is it the right thing to do to listen to both voices

and

> > give expression to both? Is it the right thing to do to combine

> > Sanskrit and Latin? Is it wise to read St Teresa and Shankara? To

sing

> > with Shree Maa and with the Montserrat choir? To recite Lord's

Prayer

> > and the Guru Gita? Or is this desire to make both worlds one, to

> > integrate those parts, the equivalent of the gold watch given by

our

> > parents, which, although beautiful in itself and presented with

the

> > best intentions, is best thrown away before one gets carried away?

> >

> > I would be very happy to hear the thoughts of my brothers and

sisters

> > on this matter and I wonder if perhaps someone else, coming from a

> > Christian background, has had the same experience.

> >

> > with love,

> > Henny

> >

> >

> >

> > , " inspectionconnection108 "

> > inspectionconnection108@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tanmaya,

> > >

> > > You never told that story before. It made me feel sad too. I

have

> > > observed the Guru put tremendous love and attention on their

> > > disciples. Then, one day, for no reason I can fathom, the

disciple

> > > departs. The Master gives and gives, but, if the student stops

> > > receiving, the connection is severed.

> > > The ego is so crafty. We must be so vigilant and stay in

contact

> > with

> > > the Master, no matter how confused we become, because, the

Master

> > > holds the key. They will always see thru the clouds of delusion

and

> > > can remove our doubts. As long as we want them to.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa Jai Swami

> > >

> > > vishweshwar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -- In , " ty_maa " <dsjames@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " No idea how crafty " .

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vishweshwar,

> > > >

> > > > I'd like to share a story (maybe I told it before long back)

about

> > the

> > > > career of a monastic brother.

> > > >

> > > > This brother had all the good qualities: he could meditate, he

> > knew

> > > > Sanskrit, he was a good singer of devotional songs, he was

very

> > > > personable--and the favorite of all the visiting abbotts. He

was

> > > > generally thought to be a sure success in spirtiual life.

> > > >

> > > > Although, like the others, he had only limited communication

with

> > his

> > > > family in the outside world, once, on his birthday, he walked

into

> > the

> > > > abbott's room to joyfully show his Guru the new watch which

his

> > parents

> > > > had just sent him as a gift.

> > > >

> > > > To his suprise and chagrin , the Guru quietly looked up for a

> > moment,

> > > > and then, suddenly and forcefully pointiing to the corner of

his

> > room,

> > > > said, " throw it in the wastebasket-- now!

> > > >

> > > > The brother was unable to speak, he was so dumbfounded by the

> > order. He

> > > > very slowly backed out of the room and silently went up the

stairs

> > to

> > > > his own room to ponder what had just happened. He knew that he

had

> > > > disobeyed his Guru; and that caused him great sorrow. But he

also

> > > > thought that the order his Guru had given him was so

outlandish

> > and so

> > > > unreasonable that he gradually began to rationalize his

response.

> > > >

> > > > As time passed, the Guru was as loving and kind to him as

> > > > ever--although, it gradually became apparent to the brother

that

> > the

> > > > Guru's conversation with him was on a more general, even

somewhat

> > > > superficial, level than before. His Guru no longer spoke to

him

> > about

> > > > his spiritual life and training; rather, he conversed with him

> > more as

> > > > he did to visitors-- about their families, the state of the

world,

> > and

> > > > so forth.

> > > >

> > > > This hurt the brother; and he was wise enough to understand

that

> > he had

> > > > broken a special relationship between himself and his Guru by

his

> > > > disobedience;. Nevertheless, he couldn't bring himself to

return

> > to the

> > > > Guru's room and dispose of the watch which his parents had so

> > lovingly

> > > > sent him for his birthday, as he was certain he must do to set

> > right his

> > > > mistake. Why was the Guru so unreasonable? It was only a

watch!

> > There

> > > > was no danger--it was not something worldly after all-just a

> > useful tool

> > > > like many other brothers wore.

> > > >

> > > > Things went on like this for a while; and then the watch

stopped.

> > This

> > > > upset the brother very much because it was expensive and still

> > > > practically new. And he was quite sure the Abbott would not

budget

> > for a

> > > > watch repair given the circumstances. In any case, he didn't

want

> > to

> > > > bring the subject up. So, after some thought, he decided to go

to

> > the

> > > > library and get a book on watch repair. Which he did.

> > > >

> > > > To his great delight, the brother found that he was indeed

able to

> > > > repair the watch using the book, and that it again was running

and

> > > > keeping perfect time. And it didn't cost anybody a thing. In

fact,

> > he

> > > > was so happy about his success that he offered to repair

another

> > > > brother's watch that had lately stopped--and he was successful

> > with that

> > > > one too!

> > > >

> > > > He began to think that he could be of useful service to the

> > monastery by

> > > > this means, and he was soon studying more about the workings

of

> > watches,

> > > > and working on them late into the night. He didn't do this

during

> > the

> > > > normal hours because he still thought that his Guru might

> > disapprove.

> > > >

> > > > Then, one day he suddenly left the monastery. There was no

> > particular

> > > > reason; it just seemed to him to be the right thing to do. The

> > Swamis

> > > > and his peers were suprised and disappointed, but there was

> > nothing they

> > > > could say to change his mind. So, he left and got a job in a

> > nearby

> > > > hardware store. After that, he joined one of the armed

services.

> > > >

> > > > When he was released from the service, he used his G.I. loan

to

> > go to

> > > > the University at Berleley for a degree in engineering. Before

> > long,

> > > > after graduating, he found himself in Silicon Valley, where he

> > soon

> > > > started a company which manufactured a computer chip of his

own

> > design.

> > > > And he sold a lot of them--a whole lot.

> > > >

> > > > In fact, soon, though still quite a young man, he had become a

> > > > multimillionare.

> > > >

> > > > I had the opportunity to see him once. One day, when I was

paying

> > a

> > > > visit to his old ashram he also stopped by that day for the

first

> > time

> > > > after leaving. He drove up in an expensive red sports cars,

and a

> > pretty

> > > > blond girl waited in the car while he entered the ashram for a

few

> > > > minutes.

> > > >

> > > > All the Swamis and brothers greeted him and spoke in a very

> > friendly way

> > > > about his successful life and other things in general. After a

> > short

> > > > visit he drove off, and the brothers returned to their various

> > tasks.

> > > >

> > > > I can't exactly say why, but for some time afterward I felt a

> > great

> > > > emptiness and loneliness somewhere inside.

> > > > It couldn't be for the young man who had just driven off in

his

> > red

> > > > sports car because he was full of joy and his life was

exciting

> > and

> > > > before him. Nor could my sadness have been for the brothers;

they

> > very

> > > > soon forgot him in their tasks and spiritual practice.

> > > >

> > > > Maybe it was for the old Abbott and Guru--who saw more than he

> > could

> > > > explain, but who could only speak his Truth as he saw it, even

as

> > he

> > > > knew that it could not change what was to be.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, the loneliness I felt must have been for the old Abbott

who

> > had

> > > > lost his monastic son.

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully,

> > > >

> > > > Tanmaya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " inspectionconnection108 "

> > > > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste

> > > > >

> > > > > A perfect statement. Action, either for thee or me.

> > > > > I remember once talking to Maa about some drama my ego was

> > creating.

> > > > > I said I could not believe how crafty the ego was. Maa

said, in

> > > > > essense, " you have not idea how crafty " .

> > > > > I remember that often, in fact daily, as I watch my small

self

> > get me

> > > > > into one problem after another.

> > > > > Fortunately, She is there to catch me when I fall, and She

> > encourages

> > > > > me to get up, dust off, and get back on the bucking bronco.

> > > > > How truly blessed to have Her as a Guru and Mother.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami

> > > > >

> > > > > vishweshwar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , shreemaadevotee@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Daily Reflection

> > > > > > March 3 - Spirituality

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Every action that we produce in life has two

possibilities.

> > It will

> > > > > be for

> > > > > > me or for Thee. Either I am acting motivated by

selfishness

> > or I am

> > > > > acting

> > > > > > motivated by surrender. There are some really fine shades

of

> > gray

> > > > > where we think

> > > > > > we are surrendering, but are actually enhancing our

egotism.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > from The Guru and the Goddess

> > > > > > Copyright 1995, 1998 Devi Mandir Publications

> > > > > > Third Edition

> > > > > > www.shreemaa.org

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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