Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Namaste Tuesday night, the 20th, near the end of Sundar Kunda chanting lesson at the Devi Mandir, Srini asked a question about the effect of chanting with pranayama on the chakras. Swami gave a short but very powerful response. It bears much thought and further discussion. I want to ask him more questions on the topic then will post the response. In the meantime, I suggest listening to the lesson. You will have to forward thru the chanting portion to get to the " Q and A " near the end of the hour class. however, the chanting was great, so listen, chant along, and enjoy. To summarize his talk: chanting any text with pranayama, will full attention, brings the kundalini up from the lower 3 chakras, represented as man's lower animal nature, to the upper chakras. The goal is to unit Parviti / Sita {representing Shakti / Nature}, with Shiva / Ram, {representing Pure Consciousness} in the crown charka. This is the marriage of Shiva and Shakti in Mount Kailish, Shiva / Shakti: Consciousness and Nature,united in the highest chakra of our human Temple, Mount Kailish Swami said his first experience of Nirvilkalpa Samadhi was the result of chanting a text in a specific fashion. As he spoke of the experience, He took His energy to the crown shakra, and sat in bliss with his eyes closed, and continued to talk describing his experience of oneness with nature, with the entire creation. As we sat experiencing some of the energy and bliss of his powerful vision, we all knew that he will lead us that that experience, that he will not rest until we all experience the marriage of Shiva and Shakti in our crown chakra. Please tune into the Mandir about 5AM- 5:30 am, every day this week, and watch Maa chanting the Chandi at the homa. This is the experience of a lifetime. How many lifetimes we prayed in solitude to have the Darshan of Divine Mother? Who knows. Now, She has answered our prayers and we can be with Her every day in the Temple of the Divine Mother. This is a great Navaratri. Jai Maa Jai Swami love vishweshwar , " ty_maa " <dsjames wrote: > > > Dear Vishwashwar, > > With no intention whatever of challenging the validity and practicality > of the points you make in this very useful post, it occured to me that, > for a large number of years, Shree Maa has been walking the face of this > earth garbed in the colors-red, orange and yellow-of the so-called > " lower chakras " . > > Maybe someone should let Her know? > > Of course I am speaking lightly and humorously, and not at all > sarcastically. > > Nevertheless, I am suggesting that the whole subject of the chakras may > be very deep and far-reaching, and, of course, therefore, an excellent > subject for ongoing discussion. > > And, I suppose I am also suggesting that the lower chakras are not > necessarily bad, and tamasic, while the upper ones are good and sattvic. > > And, that a deeper and better understanding of the whole subject may be > advisable, or even necessary, for effective sadhana---perhaps even for > peace on Earth. > > Incidentally, the so-called " upper chakras " have not always had a > perfect track record. At least three times in the postings on the > present screen, writers have referred to " the blues " (an upper chakra > color), and I don't think they intended it in a positive way. > > [The origin of the phrase " having the blues " was a true spiritual > intuition originating long back among those who were severely oppressed > by the " upper chakras " --particularly those who used to hang out in the > Caucasus Mountains.] > > (Should I leave that in? Its awfully obscure...... > > Yes, I think I will; there are a lot or readers out there.) > > Respectfully, > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > , " inspectionconnection108 " > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > NAMASTE > > > > During class one evening, Swami spoke about action from a chakra. The > > subject was actions which are either sattwic, rajasic, or tamasic. > > He suggested watching where each action originated from. For example, > > anger and passion will originate from the lower chakras, and > > devotional activities will come from the heart and the higher chakras. > > > > While this seems to be elemental knowledge, when I watched my own > > activity, I was surprised to discover that I would act from a lower > > chakra, even though I wanted to act from a higher chakra / vibration. > > For example, I would be feeling calm and settled, in a sattwic mood, > > and suddenly I would react very emotionally and harshly-tamasic, from > > a lower chakra, to an outside impulse. I would feel the energy > > automatically rush to the lower chakra, and the forceful tamisic > > impulse just burst out of me. > > Wow, I thought to myself, I have no control at all. > > So, I have continued this " watchful " process, and attempt to keep the > > energy in a sattwic place. > > I would appreciate other's experiences relating to this action. > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > vishweshwar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Dear Vishweshwar, Thanks for your reply and comments, I was there (on line) for the class you refer to, which was everything you say it was. I second your wish the everyone might see it. Affectionately, Tanmaya , " inspectionconnection108 " <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > Namaste > > Tuesday night, the 20th, near the end of Sundar Kunda chanting lesson > at the Devi Mandir, Srini asked a question about the effect of > chanting with pranayama on the chakras. > Swami gave a short but very powerful response. It bears much thought > and further discussion. > I want to ask him more questions on the topic then will post the > response. > In the meantime, I suggest listening to the lesson. You will have to > forward thru the chanting portion to get to the " Q and A " near the end > of the hour class. however, the chanting was great, so listen, chant > along, and enjoy. > To summarize his talk: chanting any text with pranayama, will full > attention, brings the kundalini up from the lower 3 chakras, > represented as man's lower animal nature, to the upper chakras. The > goal is to unit Parviti / Sita {representing Shakti / Nature}, with > Shiva / Ram, {representing Pure Consciousness} in the crown charka. > This is the marriage of Shiva and Shakti in Mount Kailish, Shiva / > Shakti: Consciousness and Nature,united in the highest chakra of our > human Temple, Mount Kailish > > Swami said his first experience of Nirvilkalpa Samadhi was the result > of chanting a text in a specific fashion. As he spoke of the > experience, He took His energy to the crown shakra, and sat in bliss > with his eyes closed, and continued to talk describing his experience > of oneness with nature, with the entire creation. > As we sat experiencing some of the energy and bliss of his powerful > vision, we all knew that he will lead us that that experience, that he > will not rest until we all experience the marriage of Shiva and Shakti > in our crown chakra. > > Please tune into the Mandir about 5AM- 5:30 am, every day this week, > and watch Maa chanting the Chandi at the homa. This is the experience > of a lifetime. How many lifetimes we prayed in solitude to have the > Darshan of Divine Mother? Who knows. > Now, She has answered our prayers and we can be with Her every day in > the Temple of the Divine Mother. > This is a great Navaratri. > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > love > > vishweshwar > > > > > , " ty_maa " dsjames@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vishwashwar, > > > > With no intention whatever of challenging the validity and practicality > > of the points you make in this very useful post, it occured to me that, > > for a large number of years, Shree Maa has been walking the face of this > > earth garbed in the colors-red, orange and yellow-of the so-called > > " lower chakras " . > > > > Maybe someone should let Her know? > > > > Of course I am speaking lightly and humorously, and not at all > > sarcastically. > > > > Nevertheless, I am suggesting that the whole subject of the chakras may > > be very deep and far-reaching, and, of course, therefore, an excellent > > subject for ongoing discussion. > > > > And, I suppose I am also suggesting that the lower chakras are not > > necessarily bad, and tamasic, while the upper ones are good and sattvic. > > > > And, that a deeper and better understanding of the whole subject may be > > advisable, or even necessary, for effective sadhana---perhaps even for > > peace on Earth. > > > > Incidentally, the so-called " upper chakras " have not always had a > > perfect track record. At least three times in the postings on the > > present screen, writers have referred to " the blues " (an upper chakra > > color), and I don't think they intended it in a positive way. > > > > [The origin of the phrase " having the blues " was a true spiritual > > intuition originating long back among those who were severely oppressed > > by the " upper chakras " --particularly those who used to hang out in the > > Caucasus Mountains.] > > > > (Should I leave that in? Its awfully obscure...... > > > > Yes, I think I will; there are a lot or readers out there.) > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " inspectionconnection108 " > > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > During class one evening, Swami spoke about action from a chakra. The > > > subject was actions which are either sattwic, rajasic, or tamasic. > > > He suggested watching where each action originated from. For example, > > > anger and passion will originate from the lower chakras, and > > > devotional activities will come from the heart and the higher chakras. > > > > > > While this seems to be elemental knowledge, when I watched my own > > > activity, I was surprised to discover that I would act from a lower > > > chakra, even though I wanted to act from a higher chakra / vibration. > > > For example, I would be feeling calm and settled, in a sattwic mood, > > > and suddenly I would react very emotionally and harshly-tamasic, from > > > a lower chakra, to an outside impulse. I would feel the energy > > > automatically rush to the lower chakra, and the forceful tamisic > > > impulse just burst out of me. > > > Wow, I thought to myself, I have no control at all. > > > So, I have continued this " watchful " process, and attempt to keep the > > > energy in a sattwic place. > > > I would appreciate other's experiences relating to this action. > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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