Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 NAMASTE SANKAR: I mentioned in a post several evenings ago that the camphor offering is done in the Chandi. This is technically incorrect. That said, most Sundays, when we chant the Chandi with Maa and Swami, Swami will chant the mantra for camphor after light and incense. I have learned that the pujas become highly personalized over time. For example, I add and subtract verses and sections owing to time constraints. They are our personal method for talking to and strengthening our relationship with the Divine, so they are subject to change. That said, I firmly agree that we should learn the pujas, chanting, homa, etc. properly, according to the Gurus and their tradition which we follow, then, once we have learned them properly, we can customize them to suit ourselves. i practiced Shiva puja for Beginners in English for many months until i could learn the pronunciation properly, and many times, I have offered fruit, flower, etc, mentally, when I did not have the proper articles of worship. For me, the bottom line was this: I always tried to do my best, and offered my love and thanks to God, in whatever form I worshiped. That is my goal every time is sit to worship. Jai Maa jai shiva vishweshwar , " Sankar Viswanathan " <sankarrukku wrote: > > I would like to elaborate on my earlier message. > > I request that Maa Nanda and others to clarify whether what I have > stated below is correct. > > The recitation of SRI SRI Chandi is not a Puja but a Japa. We recite > the Shanti Path which is basically a prayer for Peace. It includes > Devata Pranam or prayers to all Gods and Goddesses. > > Only Deepa (Light) and Dhupa (Incense) are mentioned in the text. > > Other offerings like Camphor (Karpura Neerajanam), Arghya, Akshada > etc. (which are part of Puja) are not part of this prelude to CHANDI > Parayana. > > I do Naivedyam to Vigneswara and MAA after the CHANDI Parayana as part > of our daily Puja. > > Jai MAA !!! > > > , " Sankar Viswanathan " > <sankarrukku@> wrote: > > > > It would benefit all the members if a document can be made with the > > details of procedures exclusively for monthly CHANDI PATH recitation. > > > > Maa Nanda had conducted a Puja class sometime back. May be excerpts > > from that and additional details with reference to CHANDI Path. > > > > I am requesting this as I do not think a Shodopachara Puja is done in > > Shanti Path. I may be wrong. > > > > Jai MAA !!! > > > > , " Chris Kirner " > > <chriskirner1956@> wrote: > > > > > > Good questions Eric! > > > > > > I could answer some of them, but I'll wait for someone with more > > > experience than I have to do it. > > > > > > Jai Maa! > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > , Eric Cassils <Quanchula1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Im uncertain of where we are to offer the camphor > > > > during the Devata Pranam, is it starting with Om agnir > > > > jyothir agnihi Svaaha? Also during the Achaamanam, > > > > starting with Om Keshavaaya namaha Svaahaa, are we > > > > supposed to put a spoon of water in our right hand and > > > > then sip the water into our mouth and swallow? If so, > > > > do we take 3 sips of water for Om Vishnuhu Om > > > > Vishnuhu, Om Vishnuhu? When lighting the araati lamp, > > > > is it correct to burn the camphor in the ghee first so > > > > that the ghee takes on a camphor scent? Why is it in > > > > some temples they put rice into the araathi lamp with > > > > the ghee....is it appropriate for us to do this? At > > > > the beginning and end of each chapter do we ring the > > > > bell? How do we ring the bell? > > > > > > > > Thanks to anyone who can shed light on these matters. > > > > > > > > Namaastasyai Namaastasyai Namaastasyai Namo Namaha. > > > > > > > > e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 vishweshwar, thank you for telling us about practicing the Shiva puja in English for several month before you did it in Sanskrit. That is very encouraging as you are doing it so amazingly well now. I keep on practicing and still working on the pronounciation. I guess I have a few more months to go to get it down. It does become easier as time moves on. Thank you for all your help. Sorry this was not about camphor. Parvati , " inspectionconnection108 " <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > NAMASTE SANKAR: > I mentioned in a post several evenings ago that the camphor offering > is done in the Chandi. This is technically incorrect. That said, > most Sundays, when we chant the Chandi with Maa and Swami, Swami will > chant the mantra for camphor after light and incense. > I have learned that the pujas become highly personalized over time. > For example, I add and subtract verses and sections owing to time > constraints. They are our personal method for talking to and > strengthening our relationship with the Divine, so they are subject to > change. > > That said, I firmly agree that we should learn the pujas, chanting, > homa, etc. properly, according to the Gurus and their tradition which > we follow, then, once we have learned them properly, we can customize > them to suit ourselves. > > i practiced Shiva puja for Beginners in English for many months until > i could learn the pronunciation properly, and many times, I have > offered fruit, flower, etc, mentally, when I did not have the proper > articles of worship. > > For me, the bottom line was this: I always tried to do my best, and > offered my love and thanks to God, in whatever form I worshiped. That > is my goal every time is sit to worship. > > Jai Maa jai shiva > > vishweshwar > > > > > > , " Sankar Viswanathan " > <sankarrukku@> wrote: > > > > I would like to elaborate on my earlier message. > > > > I request that Maa Nanda and others to clarify whether what I have > > stated below is correct. > > > > The recitation of SRI SRI Chandi is not a Puja but a Japa. We recite > > the Shanti Path which is basically a prayer for Peace. It includes > > Devata Pranam or prayers to all Gods and Goddesses. > > > > Only Deepa (Light) and Dhupa (Incense) are mentioned in the text. > > > > Other offerings like Camphor (Karpura Neerajanam), Arghya, Akshada > > etc. (which are part of Puja) are not part of this prelude to CHANDI > > Parayana. > > > > I do Naivedyam to Vigneswara and MAA after the CHANDI Parayana as part > > of our daily Puja. > > > > Jai MAA !!! > > > > > > , " Sankar Viswanathan " > > <sankarrukku@> wrote: > > > > > > It would benefit all the members if a document can be made with the > > > details of procedures exclusively for monthly CHANDI PATH recitation. > > > > > > Maa Nanda had conducted a Puja class sometime back. May be excerpts > > > from that and additional details with reference to CHANDI Path. > > > > > > I am requesting this as I do not think a Shodopachara Puja is done in > > > Shanti Path. I may be wrong. > > > > > > Jai MAA !!! > > > > > > , " Chris Kirner " > > > <chriskirner1956@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Good questions Eric! > > > > > > > > I could answer some of them, but I'll wait for someone with more > > > > experience than I have to do it. > > > > > > > > Jai Maa! > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > , Eric Cassils <Quanchula1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Im uncertain of where we are to offer the camphor > > > > > during the Devata Pranam, is it starting with Om agnir > > > > > jyothir agnihi Svaaha? Also during the Achaamanam, > > > > > starting with Om Keshavaaya namaha Svaahaa, are we > > > > > supposed to put a spoon of water in our right hand and > > > > > then sip the water into our mouth and swallow? If so, > > > > > do we take 3 sips of water for Om Vishnuhu Om > > > > > Vishnuhu, Om Vishnuhu? When lighting the araati lamp, > > > > > is it correct to burn the camphor in the ghee first so > > > > > that the ghee takes on a camphor scent? Why is it in > > > > > some temples they put rice into the araathi lamp with > > > > > the ghee....is it appropriate for us to do this? At > > > > > the beginning and end of each chapter do we ring the > > > > > bell? How do we ring the bell? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to anyone who can shed light on these matters. > > > > > > > > > > Namaastasyai Namaastasyai Namaastasyai Namo Namaha. > > > > > > > > > > e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > pocket: > > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Namaaste Devi Kula, I suppose I had the impression one was to offer Camphor from watching Swaamiji's Cosmic Puja videos, and since he says the Cosmic Puja is derived from the Chandi, I thought that it applied to the Chandi as well, and for some reason was not included in the text. Do we not offer the flowers with the ete gandha pushpe om gam ganapataye namaha in Chandi recitations? When I started offering flowers, touching them to my heart then the forhead and offering to the diety and then offering them in rows that it increased the depth of my devotion and concentration in the practice ( I haven't learned formal Cosmic Puja vidhi and from the video Im still confused about how to place the flowers and so Im sure it is improper practice). So it's still in the puja baby phase of learning the most basic actions. That said, the idea that the puja takes on it's own personal flavour for each devotee over the progress in one's sadhana makes good intuitive sense and the fact that Swamiji says that just because our worship is flawed does not mean the divine will not accept or appreciate the spirit of the worship. It certainly seems so, because even though the offerings were incorrect, the devotion and love for Maa is much more palpable. In any case I will start with the basics, deepam dhoopam and pushpam?. The clairty of the Devi Mandir Kula members is a great blessing! Pranams - Eric --- inspectionconnection108 <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > NAMASTE SANKAR: > I mentioned in a post several evenings ago that the > camphor offering > is done in the Chandi. This is technically > incorrect. That said, > most Sundays, when we chant the Chandi with Maa and > Swami, Swami will > chant the mantra for camphor after light and > incense. > I have learned that the pujas become highly > personalized over time. > For example, I add and subtract verses and sections > owing to time > constraints. They are our personal method for > talking to and > strengthening our relationship with the Divine, so > they are subject to > change. > > That said, I firmly agree that we should learn the > pujas, chanting, > homa, etc. properly, according to the Gurus and > their tradition which > we follow, then, once we have learned them properly, > we can customize > them to suit ourselves. > > i practiced Shiva puja for Beginners in English for > many months until > i could learn the pronunciation properly, and many > times, I have > offered fruit, flower, etc, mentally, when I did not > have the proper > articles of worship. > > For me, the bottom line was this: I always tried to > do my best, and > offered my love and thanks to God, in whatever form > I worshiped. That > is my goal every time is sit to worship. > > Jai Maa jai shiva > > vishweshwar > > > > > > , " Sankar > Viswanathan " > <sankarrukku wrote: > > > > I would like to elaborate on my earlier message. > > > > I request that Maa Nanda and others to clarify > whether what I have > > stated below is correct. > > > > The recitation of SRI SRI Chandi is not a Puja but > a Japa. We recite > > the Shanti Path which is basically a prayer for > Peace. It includes > > Devata Pranam or prayers to all Gods and > Goddesses. > > > > Only Deepa (Light) and Dhupa (Incense) are > mentioned in the text. > > > > Other offerings like Camphor (Karpura Neerajanam), > Arghya, Akshada > > etc. (which are part of Puja) are not part of this > prelude to CHANDI > > Parayana. > > > > I do Naivedyam to Vigneswara and MAA after the > CHANDI Parayana as part > > of our daily Puja. > > > > Jai MAA !!! > > > > > > , " Sankar > Viswanathan " > > <sankarrukku@> wrote: > > > > > > It would benefit all the members if a document > can be made with the > > > details of procedures exclusively for monthly > CHANDI PATH recitation. > > > > > > Maa Nanda had conducted a Puja class sometime > back. May be excerpts > > > from that and additional details with reference > to CHANDI Path. > > > > > > I am requesting this as I do not think a > Shodopachara Puja is done in > > > Shanti Path. I may be wrong. > > > > > > Jai MAA !!! > > > > > > , " Chris > Kirner " > > > <chriskirner1956@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Good questions Eric! > > > > > > > > I could answer some of them, but I'll wait for > someone with more > > > > experience than I have to do it. > > > > > > > > Jai Maa! > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > , Eric > Cassils <Quanchula1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Im uncertain of where we are to offer the > camphor > > > > > during the Devata Pranam, is it starting > with Om agnir > > > > > jyothir agnihi Svaaha? Also during the > Achaamanam, > > > > > starting with Om Keshavaaya namaha Svaahaa, > are we > > > > > supposed to put a spoon of water in our > right hand and > > > > > then sip the water into our mouth and > swallow? If so, > > > > > do we take 3 sips of water for Om Vishnuhu > Om > > > > > Vishnuhu, Om Vishnuhu? When lighting the > araati lamp, > > > > > is it correct to burn the camphor in the > ghee first so > > > > > that the ghee takes on a camphor scent? Why > is it in > > > > > some temples they put rice into the araathi > lamp with > > > > > the ghee....is it appropriate for us to do > this? At > > > > > the beginning and end of each chapter do we > ring the > > > > > bell? How do we ring the bell? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to anyone who can shed light on these > matters. > > > > > > > > > > Namaastasyai Namaastasyai Namaastasyai Namo > Namaha. > > > > > > > > > > e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the > Internet in your > pocket: > > > > mail, news, photos & more. > > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! 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