Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Thank you for carrying the messages for us, Vish. I think I get it. I understand that the energies come from all around, actually from several more than four dimensions...our understanding of metaphysical energy is so limited. Each of us is essentially a univserse unto themselves. So what we have here is 6 billion or so universes here on Earth (talk about critical mass!) whose vibrational energies are colliding with each other every minute of every day. Some good vibes, some not so good vibes. The lesson here is: If we are to deeply concentrate on our own, exclusive, personal GIVING and LIVING from the energies of the three (or four) higher chakras: love and healing (heart); communication (throat); intuition and knowing (third-eye) and divine wisdom (crown)...if we were to truly do this and live our lives from these finer vibrations, the world would be a kinder and gentler place. Truly, one is far more peaceful living in the energies from the upper chakras than one embroiled in survival issues. It is my impression that this lesson has more to do with our code of conduct. How are we sending energy rather than simply receiving it... ...and the lightbulb goes off....! Peace to all! sal. , " inspectionconnection108 " <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > Namaste Eric and Sal: Monday night in class, I asked Swami where the > highest energy comes from: from above or below or where? He and Maa > laughed gently and He stated, " energy is all around us. Do not think > in 2 dimensions, think in 4. Wherever we are, there is the highest > energy. We generate that energy. It is within us. So, do not think > it comes only from above or below. It is everywhere, ready for our > use, anytime. " > > Since you and Sal have both asked similar questions regarding " living > in higher chakras and concerns about possible imbalance " , I have > posted this question directly to Swami, and I await his response. > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > vishweshwar > > > > , " sal. " <salpaulsen@> wrote: > > > > Peace to all, > > > > I really wish I would tune into the webcam classes...my computer is > > truly a fossil. It would be greatly beneficial to learn how Swami's > > teachings also address the healing and maintenance of each of the > > chakras. It is my personal experience that divine energies do not > > flow, up or down, unless all of the chakras are healthy and in > > balance at the same time. An out-of-balance chakra is like an > > obstruction in the river flow. > > > > It is also my experience that the energies do flow both up and down. > > If they only flowed downward, our bodies and souls would be embroiled > > primarily in earthly issues such as survival. Subsequently, if the > > enegies only flowed upward, one would tend to be continuously > > floating among the clouds in bliss, happily, but scattered > > nonetheless. In a lovely ebb and flow of balanced, divine energy, > > all is well in the physical, emotional and ethereal universe. > > > > I have found that the mineral, calcite, in it's varying colors, is a > > great remedy for chakra clearing and balancing. The loving, gentle > > energies of clear or golden calcite are very helpful in healing all > > chakras. > > > > If one were to completely place emphasis and intention on the upper > > chakras would it ever toss this shell of a body we are temporarily > > housing on this Earth out of balance? Does this put our human > > instincts for basic survival at risk? I would be grateful to also > > hear more of Swami's thoughts on the other's questions that have been > > thoughtfully raised, since my computer access is so limited. > > > > respectfully, > > sal. > > > > > > , Eric Cassils <Quanchula1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > THanks Vish for the report of Swami's teachings on the > > > Chakras and Bhuta Shuddhi! > > > > > > Why is it that the flow is always up from the base to > > > the root? Why did some teachers like Aurobindo suggest > > > a reverse 'supermental' flow from higher to lower > > > chakras. The Taoist teachings suggest an earthly > > > energy upward flow and a heavenly energy downward flow > > > through the chakras. A meditator friend once mentioned > > > to me that if you stay in the higher chakras all the > > > time you will enevitably experience equal and opposite > > > amount of time in the lower chakras and that the > > > original vedic teaching is to awaken all the chakras > > > simultaneously without a polarity of higher or lower > > > or right left. front back. 'for every high there is a > > > corresponding low.' Yet n Kriya yoga teachings the > > > mind is perpetually held one pointed on the Ajna > > > chakra.I would love it if Swami would comment and > > > provide some clarity as to the truth of this > > > statement. > > > > > > Hari OM Tat Sat JAi Maa Jai Swami, > > > > > > Pranams. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Namaste Sal and Vish and all, thank you for your interesting discussion of the chakras. I have been including the bhuta shuddhi practice Vish mentioned in my puja, and I have found that it gets easier to 'feel' the vibrations in the chakras when I am chanting the mantra. So, in connection with what has been said, I mused, in connection with vibrations, that instead of the 'linear' model of the chakras, a system of concentric circles could be imagined. The highest vibrations would be in the middle, and then the effect of those vibrations would travel outwards, just like ripples in water. Then the 'lower' chakras would be the outer circles. If you have your being in the outer circles, you vibrate slowly and even though you have the potential to change to a higher vibration, you would not necessarily know this. But if you live in the inner circles, you are aware of the all the slower vibrations, because all vibrations go out from where you are, and you have complete awareness of all the modalities of vibration. You know all vibrations to come from the One Source, and you would not separate higher from lower because it is all one song. While when you swim around in the outer circles only, you would not have any idea of a center and you would keep going round and round, unless you started to travel inwards by consciously raising your vibrations. For which you would probably need a push or a pull, oh well, just musing, with love, henny - In , " sal. " <salpaulsen wrote: > > Thank you for carrying the messages for us, Vish. > > I think I get it. > > I understand that the energies come from all around, actually from > several more than four dimensions...our understanding of metaphysical > energy is so limited. Each of us is essentially a univserse unto > themselves. > > So what we have here is 6 billion or so universes here on Earth (talk > about critical mass!) whose vibrational energies are colliding with > each other every minute of every day. Some good vibes, some not so > good vibes. > > The lesson here is: If we are to deeply concentrate on our own, > exclusive, personal GIVING and LIVING from the energies of the three > (or four) higher chakras: love and healing (heart); communication > (throat); intuition and knowing (third-eye) and divine wisdom > (crown)...if we were to truly do this and live our lives from these > finer vibrations, the world would be a kinder and gentler place. > > Truly, one is far more peaceful living in the energies from the upper > chakras than one embroiled in survival issues. It is my impression > that this lesson has more to do with our code of conduct. How are we > sending energy rather than simply receiving it... > > ..and the lightbulb goes off....! > > Peace to all! > sal. > > > > , " inspectionconnection108 " > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Eric and Sal: Monday night in class, I asked Swami where the > > highest energy comes from: from above or below or where? He and > Maa > > laughed gently and He stated, " energy is all around us. Do not > think > > in 2 dimensions, think in 4. Wherever we are, there is the highest > > energy. We generate that energy. It is within us. So, do not think > > it comes only from above or below. It is everywhere, ready for our > > use, anytime. " > > > > Since you and Sal have both asked similar questions > regarding " living > > in higher chakras and concerns about possible imbalance " , I have > > posted this question directly to Swami, and I await his response. > > > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > , " sal. " <salpaulsen@> wrote: > > > > > > Peace to all, > > > > > > I really wish I would tune into the webcam classes...my computer > is > > > truly a fossil. It would be greatly beneficial to learn how > Swami's > > > teachings also address the healing and maintenance of each of the > > > chakras. It is my personal experience that divine energies do > not > > > flow, up or down, unless all of the chakras are healthy and in > > > balance at the same time. An out-of-balance chakra is like an > > > obstruction in the river flow. > > > > > > It is also my experience that the energies do flow both up and > down. > > > If they only flowed downward, our bodies and souls would be > embroiled > > > primarily in earthly issues such as survival. Subsequently, if > the > > > enegies only flowed upward, one would tend to be continuously > > > floating among the clouds in bliss, happily, but scattered > > > nonetheless. In a lovely ebb and flow of balanced, divine > energy, > > > all is well in the physical, emotional and ethereal universe. > > > > > > I have found that the mineral, calcite, in it's varying colors, > is a > > > great remedy for chakra clearing and balancing. The loving, > gentle > > > energies of clear or golden calcite are very helpful in healing > all > > > chakras. > > > > > > If one were to completely place emphasis and intention on the > upper > > > chakras would it ever toss this shell of a body we are > temporarily > > > housing on this Earth out of balance? Does this put our human > > > instincts for basic survival at risk? I would be grateful to > also > > > hear more of Swami's thoughts on the other's questions that have > been > > > thoughtfully raised, since my computer access is so limited. > > > > > > respectfully, > > > sal. > > > > > > > > > , Eric Cassils <Quanchula1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > THanks Vish for the report of Swami's teachings on the > > > > Chakras and Bhuta Shuddhi! > > > > > > > > Why is it that the flow is always up from the base to > > > > the root? Why did some teachers like Aurobindo suggest > > > > a reverse 'supermental' flow from higher to lower > > > > chakras. The Taoist teachings suggest an earthly > > > > energy upward flow and a heavenly energy downward flow > > > > through the chakras. A meditator friend once mentioned > > > > to me that if you stay in the higher chakras all the > > > > time you will enevitably experience equal and opposite > > > > amount of time in the lower chakras and that the > > > > original vedic teaching is to awaken all the chakras > > > > simultaneously without a polarity of higher or lower > > > > or right left. front back. 'for every high there is a > > > > corresponding low.' Yet n Kriya yoga teachings the > > > > mind is perpetually held one pointed on the Ajna > > > > chakra.I would love it if Swami would comment and > > > > provide some clarity as to the truth of this > > > > statement. > > > > > > > > Hari OM Tat Sat JAi Maa Jai Swami, > > > > > > > > Pranams. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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