Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Namaste Beloved sisters and brother: I know in my heart of hearts that Maa is my Savior. Without Her, I am a ship without a rudder. She has been with me thru my darkest days as well as my days of heaven on Earth. She was with me, guiding and protecting, long before I knew who She was. She is my everything. In Maa's new book, at Her request, I recounted the story of our meeting this lifetime. I used by birth name, Bill Fetzer. When I read that story, it is so miraculous I cannot believe it happened to me. But it is true, and it helps me remember that my ego will make every effort to confuse and cloud by vision, but, at the end of the day, I remember that Maa is with me. And everything is all right. All of us share this incredible Grace, and She allows us to share our love and support with each other. Thank you all for being here. I love you all. Jai Ma Jai Swami love vishweshwar , " kaliananda_saraswati " <kaliananda_saraswati wrote: > > > Namaste Vish, > > Thanks for this very beautiful post, like our dear Chris says " Our > experience of Divine Mother is as endlessly variable, compassionate, and > powerful as our circumstances and presence with Her allows. She is our > beloved Mother, God and companion. " > > It is very difficult for me though, to think of self- deprecation and > Goddess Kali or Beloved Shree Maa since Maa and Kali are the ones who > always bring that joy and peace to my heart and sorroundings. They are > the ones whom I greet, thank, smile with daily whatever the circumstance > may be. But, dear brother, you have given me much food for thought as > you spoke on our fears. For whatever reason, at times some of us have > been exposed to aspects in life which we thought to be good for us (and > in a way they were for that time since these aspects brought many to the > Feet of True Divinity) but the scars from those experiences linger and > we are not sure how to, but deep down we are willing and really want to. > The divisions in the world has created many " cultures " and ways of > dealing with life and it is difficult to adjust in a day or two. > > Beloved Shree Maa and Swamiji are the best thing that has happened in my > life. They have shown me the meaning of unconditional love and truth. > I know at times i am unsure how to approach them, and today, with all > of my heart i pray that if self deprecation is keeping me away then May > Kali's sword cut this from all the ten directions in my world so that > this child can truly experience that love and guidance so selflessly > offered. > > Vishweshwar, thank you. Blessed day to you. > > Jai Maa Jai Swamiji > > Jai Devi Mandir family > > > > > > , " inspectionconnection108 " > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > In my life, I think of Shree Maa as Kali, or Durga, or Lakshmi, or > > Saraswati, depending on the state of consciousness I am experiencing. > > If I am in a state of self deprecation, She is Kali, and i am uneasy > > and hesitant around Her because my own negativity " fears " its demise > > in Her presence. Or, if I am feeling very positive and happy, I > > experience Her as Lakshmi because She feeds my heart with divine love, > > and enhances my compassionate nature. > > She is the same, Divine Shakti, She does not change. It is my ego > > which feels blissful or fearful around Her. She radiates pure love, > > She is pure love. She does not judge or find fault. She only has my > > best interest at heart. > > So, knowledge helps us to understand the play of consciousness in all > > of its multiplicity, while devotion and faith helps us to overcome > > fear and doubts and unite heart and mind. And knowledge and devotion > > united help us to " decide " to surrender to Her. Once we surrender, > > and keep surrendering and do not resist change, then She can really > > bestow Her Grace on us. > > > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > , " Shankari Kali " > > shankari_kali@ wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Chris: > > > > > > That was an excellent, insightful post. I think that the Chandi Path > > > causes a deep awakening of the kundalini or the goddess within. The > > > scriptures state that the recitation of them causes the Goddess to > > > manifest. I believe that the scripture has layer upon layer of > meaning > > > that draws one deeper and deeper into the awakening process. > > > > > > Some of this causes things to happen that might be misunderstood by > > > the practitioner and may cause fear. > > > > > > I myself find myself wrestling with myself when attempting to do > > > anything with Maha Kali. Now we are studying the Kali Puja, and I > find > > > myself having dreams warning me about Maha Kali. > > > > > > I believe that the karmic layers within me fear the process and > > > produce the dreams. > > > > > > Jai Maa! > > > > > > Shankari Kali > > > > > > , " Chris Kirner " > > > <chriskirner1956@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Vish (and Shankari), > > > > > > > > I have heard this slant on kundalini awakening before. It is > certainly > > > > true, but I think it also begs the question. Kundalini is > certainly > > > > awake in all of life, but I believe there is also an awakening, or > if > > > > you will, a time of vastly increased flow and power. My belief is > that > > > > the initial awakening of kundalini in force is described in the > Chandi > > > > as the advent of Kali. Her every act is powerful, forceful, > dramatic, > > > > and spiritually intoxicated - She is a force of loud, irresistible > > > > vibrations, buzzings and hums and powerful bells, always seeming > at > > > > the very edge of chaos. She destroys every obstacle and devours > every > > > > desire by sheer overwhelming power. > > > > > > > > Swamiji may downplay the awakening because in this path it is not > the > > > > main focus of the sadhana - devotion is (or so it seems to me). If > one > > > > follows this path, and especially chanting the Chandi Path, I > believe > > > > that kundalini will awaken as a result, just as Kali mainfests at > the > > > > behest of Mahalakshmi, devouring all of our desires, passions, and > > > > establishing the rule of the pure within us. > > > > > > > > Jai Maa! > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > , " inspectionconnection108 " > > > > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste: Swami says that the kundalini is always awake and > moving. > > > > > If it was not, we would be dead. The notion of awakening it is a > > > > > figure of speech, poetic license. > > > > > > > > > > Chanting the Chandi helps eliminate the ego. By discipling > > ourselves > > > > > to sit still, control our breathing, and chant the verses, we > put > > > > > ourselves in the place where Chandi, " She who tears apart > thought " , > > > > > can destroy the Great Ego and his army of thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > Contact with a realized Master, has tremendous purifying effect > and > > > > > helps a devotee observe how the Great Ones function on this > Earth. > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > > > > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , Shankari Kali > <shankari_kali@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if continuous chanting of the Chandi Path > would > > > > > prompt a spontaneous awakening of the kundalini, or does one > still > > > > > have to receive shaktipat from an awakened being. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Shankari > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join > 's > > > > > user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 thank you. we love you too. inspectionconnection108 <inspectionconnection108 wrote: Namaste Beloved sisters and brother: I know in my heart of hearts thatMaa is my Savior. Without Her, I am a ship without a rudder. She hasbeen with me thru my darkest days as well as my days of heaven onEarth. She was with me, guiding and protecting, long before I knewwho She was. She is my everything. In Maa's new book, at Herrequest, I recounted the story of our meeting this lifetime. I usedby birth name, Bill Fetzer. When I read that story, it is somiraculous I cannot believe it happened to me. But it is true, and ithelps me remember that my ego will make every effort to confuse andcloud by vision, but, at the end of the day, I remember that Maa iswith me. And everything is all right.All of us share this incredible Grace, and She allows us to share ourlove and support with each other. Thank you all for being here. Ilove you all.Jai Ma Jai Swamilovevishweshwar , "kaliananda_saraswati"<kaliananda_saraswati wrote:>> > Namaste Vish,> > Thanks for this very beautiful post, like our dear Chris says "Our> experience of Divine Mother is as endlessly variable, compassionate, and> powerful as our circumstances and presence with Her allows. She is our> beloved Mother, God and companion."> > It is very difficult for me though, to think of self- deprecation and> Goddess Kali or Beloved Shree Maa since Maa and Kali are the ones who> always bring that joy and peace to my heart and sorroundings. They are> the ones whom I greet, thank, smile with daily whatever the circumstance> may be. But, dear brother, you have given me much food for thought as> you spoke on our fears. For whatever reason, at times some of us have> been exposed to aspects in life which we thought to be good for us (and> in a way they were for that time since these aspects brought many to the> Feet of True Divinity) but the scars from those experiences linger and> we are not sure how to, but deep down we are willing and really want to.> The divisions in the world has created many "cultures" and ways of> dealing with life and it is difficult to adjust in a day or two.> > Beloved Shree Maa and Swamiji are the best thing that has happened in my> life. They have shown me the meaning of unconditional love and truth. > I know at times i am unsure how to approach them, and today, with all> of my heart i pray that if self deprecation is keeping me away then May> Kali's sword cut this from all the ten directions in my world so that> this child can truly experience that love and guidance so selflessly> offered.> > Vishweshwar, thank you. Blessed day to you.> > Jai Maa Jai Swamiji> > Jai Devi Mandir family> > > > > > , "inspectionconnection108"> <inspectionconnection108@> wrote:> >> > In my life, I think of Shree Maa as Kali, or Durga, or Lakshmi, or> > Saraswati, depending on the state of consciousness I am experiencing.> > If I am in a state of self deprecation, She is Kali, and i am uneasy> > and hesitant around Her because my own negativity "fears" its demise> > in Her presence. Or, if I am feeling very positive and happy, I> > experience Her as Lakshmi because She feeds my heart with divine love,> > and enhances my compassionate nature.> > She is the same, Divine Shakti, She does not change. It is my ego> > which feels blissful or fearful around Her. She radiates pure love,> > She is pure love. She does not judge or find fault. She only has my> > best interest at heart.> > So, knowledge helps us to understand the play of consciousness in all> > of its multiplicity, while devotion and faith helps us to overcome> > fear and doubts and unite heart and mind. And knowledge and devotion> > united help us to "decide" to surrender to Her. Once we surrender,> > and keep surrendering and do not resist change, then She can really> > bestow Her Grace on us.> >> > Jai Maa Jai Swami> >> > vishweshwar> >> >> >> > , "Shankari Kali"> > shankari_kali@ wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Chris:> > >> > > That was an excellent, insightful post. I think that the Chandi Path> > > causes a deep awakening of the kundalini or the goddess within. The> > > scriptures state that the recitation of them causes the Goddess to> > > manifest. I believe that the scripture has layer upon layer of> meaning> > > that draws one deeper and deeper into the awakening process.> > >> > > Some of this causes things to happen that might be misunderstood by> > > the practitioner and may cause fear.> > >> > > I myself find myself wrestling with myself when attempting to do> > > anything with Maha Kali. Now we are studying the Kali Puja, and I> find> > > myself having dreams warning me about Maha Kali.> > >> > > I believe that the karmic layers within me fear the process and> > > produce the dreams.> > >> > > Jai Maa!> > >> > > Shankari Kali> > >> > > , "Chris Kirner"> > > <chriskirner1956@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi Vish (and Shankari),> > > >> > > > I have heard this slant on kundalini awakening before. It is> certainly> > > > true, but I think it also begs the question. Kundalini is> certainly> > > > awake in all of life, but I believe there is also an awakening, or> if> > > > you will, a time of vastly increased flow and power. My belief is> that> > > > the initial awakening of kundalini in force is described in the> Chandi> > > > as the advent of Kali. Her every act is powerful, forceful,> dramatic,> > > > and spiritually intoxicated - She is a force of loud, irresistible> > > > vibrations, buzzings and hums and powerful bells, always seeming> at> > > > the very edge of chaos. She destroys every obstacle and devours> every> > > > desire by sheer overwhelming power.> > > >> > > > Swamiji may downplay the awakening because in this path it is not> the> > > > main focus of the sadhana - devotion is (or so it seems to me). If> one> > > > follows this path, and especially chanting the Chandi Path, I> believe> > > > that kundalini will awaken as a result, just as Kali mainfests at> the> > > > behest of Mahalakshmi, devouring all of our desires, passions, and> > > > establishing the rule of the pure within us.> > > >> > > > Jai Maa!> > > > Chris> > > >> > > >> > > > , "inspectionconnection108"> > > > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste: Swami says that the kundalini is always awake and> moving.> > > > > If it was not, we would be dead. The notion of awakening it is a> > > > > figure of speech, poetic license.> > > > >> > > > > Chanting the Chandi helps eliminate the ego. By discipling> > ourselves> > > > > to sit still, control our breathing, and chant the verses, we> put> > > > > ourselves in the place where Chandi, "She who tears apart> thought",> > > > > can destroy the Great Ego and his army of thoughts.> > > > >> > > > > Contact with a realized Master, has tremendous purifying effect> and> > > > > helps a devotee observe how the Great Ones function on this> Earth.> > > > >> > > > > Jai Maa Jai Swami> > > > >> > > > > vishweshwar> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > -- In , Shankari Kali> <shankari_kali@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Group:> > > > > >> > > > > > I was wondering if continuous chanting of the Chandi Path> would> > > > > prompt a spontaneous awakening of the kundalini, or does one> still> > > > > have to receive shaktipat from an awakened being.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Shankari> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join> 's> > > > > user panel and lay it on us.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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