Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Dear All,Here is an extract from the 'Inside Sutras'. Acknowledgement and thanks to Swamiji,Rami,Srini."Guru: The most important thing we can do is to support the Guru's sadhana. The second most important thing is to keep doing our own sadhana. Now of course, as a Guru Ashram, the Guru will define what the appropriate sadhana is and who is qualified to perform what sadhana"Some thoughts on the above lines... We are sometimes lucky to stay at the Mandir and watch Maa and Swamiji as they perform their pujas in the morning. It is very important that we conduct ourselves so that we do not intrude on their bhava and sadhana . Sometimes we are also invited to participate in the sadhana, like the Sunday morning Chandi. Here are some of the etiquette rules followed for the Chandi. 1) Try to arrive punctually so as not to disturb the group once the chanting has commenced . If you do come in late, then sit behind and not try to push forward to the front.2) Find out in advance (if possible) what will be chanted, so that we do not need to disturb our neighbor to know the page number during the sadhana. 3) Do not get up and walk around during the chanting , as we want to keep the focus and attention on Chandi.4) If our legs fall asleep, and we need to shift, then do so unobtrusively so as not to disturb our neighbor.5) Do not talk to the neighbor during the chanting .6) If not seated close to the fire, then offer the masala to an empty bowl. All offerings will be given to the fire at the close of the Chandi. Swamiji will request everyone to come forward to offer them.7) Chant in the same pace as Swamiji. Again, we are trying to chant along with Him and Maa, so we respect their pace. If we are unable to keep up, then we read along silently, but always always respect Swamiji's pace.8) If you bring small children, then please ensure that they do not play around with the masala. Also you might want to sit towards the back of the hall so that the group's bhava is not disturbed.9) Chanting IS meditation. So we try not to disturb the chanters in any way, as we would if they were sitting silent with their eyes closed.Hope Vish and the others might add to the above points based on their experience and observations over the years...Also, please post and write in your thoughts on the above topic. I would love to hear what you have to say ...JAI MAANanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Namaste: thanks for this post. I would add the following: 1. prepare yourself in every way: wear clean clothes, use the bathroom prior so you can sit for the 2.5 hours, stretch prior to the body is as flexible and comfortable as possible so you can sit as still as possible for the entire Chandi, and eat enough food to be comfortable and well fueled. 2. prepare your heart and mind: remember your goal and purpose-why are you here, and come prepared to give your best, and surrender to the Guru's instructions, and example in every way. 3. bring some offering to the Guru: food, flowers, etc., as an expression of your love and thanks 4. bring a coconut to offer at the end of the Chandi 5. offer your ego and all your thoughts, emotions, desires to the Divine Fire 6. accept whatever Ma Chandi gives you as Her prasad, as a blessing for your participation. Do not expect anything. 7. give more than you get: help clean up and organize the Temple for the next homa and worship service Jai Maa Jai Swami vishweshwar , " Nanda " <chandimaakijai wrote: > > Dear All, > Here is an extract from the 'Inside Sutras'. Acknowledgement and thanks > to Swamiji,Rami,Srini. > > " Guru: The most important thing we can do is to support the Guru's > sadhana. The second most important thing is to keep doing our own > sadhana. Now of course, as a Guru Ashram, the Guru will define what the > appropriate sadhana is and who is qualified to perform what sadhana " > > > Some thoughts on the above lines... > > We are sometimes lucky to stay at the Mandir and watch Maa and Swamiji > as they perform their pujas in the morning. It is very important that > we conduct ourselves so that we do not intrude on their bhava and > sadhana . Sometimes we are also invited to participate in the sadhana, > like the Sunday morning Chandi. Here are some of the etiquette rules > followed for the Chandi. > > 1) Try to arrive punctually so as not to disturb the group once the > chanting has commenced . If you do come in late, then sit behind and > not try to push forward to the front. > 2) Find out in advance (if possible) what will be chanted, so that we > do not need to disturb our neighbor to know the page number during the > sadhana. > 3) Do not get up and walk around during the chanting , as we want to > keep the focus and attention on Chandi. > 4) If our legs fall asleep, and we need to shift, then do so > unobtrusively so as not to disturb our neighbor. > 5) Do not talk to the neighbor during the chanting . > 6) If not seated close to the fire, then offer the masala to an empty > bowl. All offerings will be given to the fire at the close of the > Chandi. Swamiji will request everyone to come forward to offer them. > 7) Chant in the same pace as Swamiji. Again, we are trying to chant > along with Him and Maa, so we respect their pace. If we are unable to > keep up, then we read along silently, but always always respect > Swamiji's pace. > 8) If you bring small children, then please ensure that they do not play > around with the masala. Also you might want to sit towards the back of > the hall so that the group's bhava is not disturbed. > 9) Chanting IS meditation. So we try not to disturb the chanters in any > way, as we would if they were sitting silent with their eyes closed. > > Hope Vish and the others might add to the above points based on their > experience and observations over the years... > > Also, please post and write in your thoughts on the above topic. I would > love to hear what you have to say ... > > JAI MAA > Nanda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Namaste Nanda and Vish and all, thank you for these very useful recommendations. One that struck me as very important: 'do not expect anything'. The thought that if one offers something, something else (and most often, a particular something) should be received in return is very hard to get rid of and forms the root of feelings of disappointment and discouragement. Makes me wonder how much of my effort (in learning puja, watching classes etc.) is actually driven by expectation of something. 'do not expect any thing' seems to be the most excellent advice... thank you, with love, henny , " inspectionconnection108 " <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > Namaste: thanks for this post. I would add the following: > > 1. prepare yourself in every way: wear clean clothes, use the > bathroom prior so you can sit for the 2.5 hours, stretch prior to the > body is as flexible and comfortable as possible so you can sit as > still as possible for the entire Chandi, and eat enough food to be > comfortable and well fueled. > 2. prepare your heart and mind: remember your goal and purpose-why > are you here, and come prepared to give your best, and surrender to > the Guru's instructions, and example in every way. > 3. bring some offering to the Guru: food, flowers, etc., as an > expression of your love and thanks > 4. bring a coconut to offer at the end of the Chandi > 5. offer your ego and all your thoughts, emotions, desires to the > Divine Fire > 6. accept whatever Ma Chandi gives you as Her prasad, as a blessing > for your participation. Do not expect anything. > 7. give more than you get: help clean up and organize the Temple for > the next homa and worship service > > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > vishweshwar > > > > > > , " Nanda " <chandimaakijai@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > Here is an extract from the 'Inside Sutras'. Acknowledgement and thanks > > to Swamiji,Rami,Srini. > > > > " Guru: The most important thing we can do is to support the Guru's > > sadhana. The second most important thing is to keep doing our own > > sadhana. Now of course, as a Guru Ashram, the Guru will define what the > > appropriate sadhana is and who is qualified to perform what sadhana " > > > > > > Some thoughts on the above lines... > > > > We are sometimes lucky to stay at the Mandir and watch Maa and Swamiji > > as they perform their pujas in the morning. It is very important that > > we conduct ourselves so that we do not intrude on their bhava and > > sadhana . Sometimes we are also invited to participate in the sadhana, > > like the Sunday morning Chandi. Here are some of the etiquette rules > > followed for the Chandi. > > > > 1) Try to arrive punctually so as not to disturb the group once the > > chanting has commenced . If you do come in late, then sit behind and > > not try to push forward to the front. > > 2) Find out in advance (if possible) what will be chanted, so that we > > do not need to disturb our neighbor to know the page number during the > > sadhana. > > 3) Do not get up and walk around during the chanting , as we want to > > keep the focus and attention on Chandi. > > 4) If our legs fall asleep, and we need to shift, then do so > > unobtrusively so as not to disturb our neighbor. > > 5) Do not talk to the neighbor during the chanting . > > 6) If not seated close to the fire, then offer the masala to an empty > > bowl. All offerings will be given to the fire at the close of the > > Chandi. Swamiji will request everyone to come forward to offer them. > > 7) Chant in the same pace as Swamiji. Again, we are trying to chant > > along with Him and Maa, so we respect their pace. If we are unable to > > keep up, then we read along silently, but always always respect > > Swamiji's pace. > > 8) If you bring small children, then please ensure that they do not play > > around with the masala. Also you might want to sit towards the back of > > the hall so that the group's bhava is not disturbed. > > 9) Chanting IS meditation. So we try not to disturb the chanters in any > > way, as we would if they were sitting silent with their eyes closed. > > > > Hope Vish and the others might add to the above points based on their > > experience and observations over the years... > > > > Also, please post and write in your thoughts on the above topic. I would > > love to hear what you have to say ... > > > > JAI MAA > > Nanda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Namaste, This is an interesting topic <do not expect anything>. I have had different experiences with this, and sometimes you do not need to expect anything from your puja, prayers, healing work, sadhana, and other times you do not expect something, but you simply have the knowing of results and that which transcends any notion of them, and no matter what happens, you get what you desired and more.. Doesn<t Puja mean birth of merits, and if so then you are asked to know that what ever you offer in your puja will take birth, so it doesn<t matter if you expect any result, it is a law that you will be given the fruits of your worship, whatever you put in you will get out, so focus on your devotion and not worrying about the expectations seems like wise protocol. --- henny_v_i <henny_v_i wrote: > Namaste Nanda and Vish and all, > > thank you for these very useful recommendations. One > that struck me as > very important: > > 'do not expect anything'. > > The thought that if one offers something, something > else (and most > often, a particular something) should be received in > return is very > hard to get rid of and forms the root of feelings of > disappointment > and discouragement. Makes me wonder how much of my > effort (in learning > puja, watching classes etc.) is actually driven by > expectation of > something. > > 'do not expect any thing' > > seems to be the most excellent advice... > > thank you, > with love, > henny > > > > > > , > " inspectionconnection108 " > <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > > > Namaste: thanks for this post. I would add the > following: > > > > 1. prepare yourself in every way: wear clean > clothes, use the > > bathroom prior so you can sit for the 2.5 hours, > stretch prior to > the > > body is as flexible and comfortable as possible so > you can sit as > > still as possible for the entire Chandi, and eat > enough food to be > > comfortable and well fueled. > > 2. prepare your heart and mind: remember your > goal and purpose-why > > are you here, and come prepared to give your best, > and surrender to > > the Guru's instructions, and example in every way. > > 3. bring some offering to the Guru: food, > flowers, etc., as an > > expression of your love and thanks > > 4. bring a coconut to offer at the end of the > Chandi > > 5. offer your ego and all your thoughts, emotions, > desires to the > > Divine Fire > > 6. accept whatever Ma Chandi gives you as Her > prasad, as a blessing > > for your participation. Do not expect anything. > > 7. give more than you get: help clean up and > organize the Temple > for > > the next homa and worship service > > > > > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Nanda " > <chandimaakijai@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > Here is an extract from the 'Inside Sutras'. > Acknowledgement and > thanks > > > to Swamiji,Rami,Srini. > > > > > > " Guru: The most important thing we can do is to > support the Guru's > > > sadhana. The second most important thing is to > keep doing our own > > > sadhana. Now of course, as a Guru Ashram, the > Guru will define > what the > > > appropriate sadhana is and who is qualified to > perform what > sadhana " > > > > > > > > > Some thoughts on the above lines... > > > > > > We are sometimes lucky to stay at the Mandir and > watch Maa and > Swamiji > > > as they perform their pujas in the morning. It > is very important > that > > > we conduct ourselves so that we do not intrude > on their bhava and > > > sadhana . Sometimes we are also invited to > participate in the > sadhana, > > > like the Sunday morning Chandi. Here are some > of the etiquette > rules > > > followed for the Chandi. > > > > > > 1) Try to arrive punctually so as not to disturb > the group once > the > > > chanting has commenced . If you do come in > late, then sit behind > and > > > not try to push forward to the front. > > > 2) Find out in advance (if possible) what will > be chanted, so > that we > > > do not need to disturb our neighbor to know the > page number during > the > > > sadhana. > > > 3) Do not get up and walk around during the > chanting , as we want > to > > > keep the focus and attention on Chandi. > > > 4) If our legs fall asleep, and we need to > shift, then do so > > > unobtrusively so as not to disturb our neighbor. > > > 5) Do not talk to the neighbor during the > chanting . > > > 6) If not seated close to the fire, then offer > the masala to an > empty > > > bowl. All offerings will be given to the fire at > the close of the > > > Chandi. Swamiji will request everyone to come > forward to offer > them. > > > 7) Chant in the same pace as Swamiji. Again, we > are trying to > chant > > > along with Him and Maa, so we respect their > pace. If we are unable > to > > > keep up, then we read along silently, but always > always respect > > > Swamiji's pace. > > > 8) If you bring small children, then please > ensure that they do > not play > > > around with the masala. Also you might want to > sit towards the > back of > > > the hall so that the group's bhava is not > disturbed. > > > 9) Chanting IS meditation. So we try not to > disturb the chanters > in any > > > way, as we would if they were sitting silent > with their eyes > closed. > > > > > > Hope Vish and the others might add to the above > points based on > their > > > experience and observations over the years... > > > > > > Also, please post and write in your thoughts on > the above topic. I > would > > > love to hear what you have to say ... > > > > > > JAI MAA > > > Nanda > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. 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