Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Namaste Henny: Here is Swami's response from your e mail, which I forwarded to him. His answers are embedded into your question. Hope you can understand it. This can help others who wish to expand their worship of Shiva. HENNY: I have some questions about prana pratishta in Shiva puja. > In a discussion of the Cosmic Puja it was mentioned that prana > pratishta can also be performed on the lingam instead of establishing a pot. So for some time now I have been trying to expand my Shiva puja by adding the establishment of life part. But I get into trouble about where to insert the procedure, get worried about making mistakes and go back to the familiar pattern. But that does not feel right either, there is a definite push to go further. So here are my questions: > > Normally, following the extended Shiva Puja as taught by Parvati some > time ago, I purify water and flowers (and after this I have inserted > bhuta shuddhi), then SWAMI: dhyanam/nyasa - establishment of life - japa and puja naivedya. > Where would I > insert the establishment of life in the lingam? > > If the establishment of life is done in the lingam (instead of > establishing a pot), how is it done? Do we use all the mantras for > establishing a pot (including touching the earth and offering baths > and powders etc.)? SWAMI: That's best. > Or do we skip the mantras for filling the pot and > start by establishing stillness, followed by the mantras for prana > pratishta (om am aam etc.)? SWAMI: If you're in a hurry this works. > > Once we have installed life in the lingam, do we then perform the > complete puja naivedya (i.e. offer baths and powders again)? > Or add > only food and drinking water? SWAMI: Above is best. This also works in a shorter puja. > > And when do we remove the divine energy; is this done immediately > after ending the puja in the morning or later in the evening? It is > probably a silly thing, but it does not feel right to establish life > and then go out to work, leaving Him all alone on the altar:). SWAMI: In the evening, after we have served him all day long through our various functions. > > HENNY: dear family, it is wonderful to be able to ask these questions. Even though I have not been posting much, I read all the posts and derive great inspiration and help from them. This group is a lifeline. And above all, my heartfelt gratitude goes out to Shree Maa and Swamiji, who never waver in their devotion to demonstrating truth, beauty and love to their children. SWAMI: Jai Maa! So nice to hear from you. We send you all our love and blessings. - JAI MAA JAI SWAMI VISHWESHWAR , " henny_v_i " <henny_v_i wrote: > > Namaste Vish, > > please accept my heartfelt appreciation for the seva you are doing > here on this forum; your posts are truly inspirational. Your speaking > about how a relationship is built with Shiva by starting with the > basic puja and then expanding, has rekindled a fire in my heart. > I perform the expanded puja Maa Parvati taught us (the 'lessons' were > posted here, so they must be in the archives, and this provided us > with a wonderful way to expand the basic puja as taught by Nandaji), > and now I would like to take it a step further. Some time ago, I asked > a question about it in the group, but no response came. So perhaps it > was not the right time or there was some other reason. But just in > case my question was overlooked, I have the audacity to bring post > 25042 to your attention, because I would dearly love to have the > answer. If my insistence is inappropriate, I will understand and I > will continue my practice as it is, > > with love, > Henny > > > > , " inspectionconnection108 " > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Eric and all: if you have never performed Shiva puja, and > are > > not comfortable with the process and techniques of worship, it would > > be best to begin with the Beginner Shiva puja text. It is simple and > > straight forward. > > Also, the puja in the Advanced text takes quite a bit of time, while > > the Beginner can take 20-30 minutes, once you know how to do it. > > It is all up to you. What is your goal? How long do you have each > > Monday? How experienced are you with puja performance? > > If your goal is to begin a relationship with Shiva, then start > simple, > > and become very familiar with the basic beginner puja. Learn it by > > heart so that you can focus on worship, and not on reading the text > > and fumbling with the book and the articles of worship. > > In my own experience, I have found I could focus more on building a > > relationship with Shiva by keeping my practice simple, rather than > > getting into more elaborate and technically challenging techniques. > > Then in time, after I mastered the basic puja, I naturally wanted to > > expand my puja because I wanted to find more ways to tell Shiva how > > much I love him. then I added mantras from the advanced puja text. > > > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Eric Cassils <Quanchula1@> > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Vish, Devi et All, > > > > > > For the 16 Monday worship, if we have the advanced > > > Shiva puja book is it acceptable to use this book as > > > well. I know it would have been better to start with > > > something less advanced, but I was very attracted by > > > the cover of this book, and by it's sheer > > > completeness. > > > Jai Swami Jai Maa, Jai Maa Jai Swami > > > eric > > > --- inspectionconnection108 > > > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste Carie: Order the $10 book, SHIVA PUJA FOR > > > > BEGINNERS. Once > > > > you receive it, come to this club site, and on the > > > > left margin, you > > > > see a word " FILES " , click on FILES and you will see > > > > a folder for > > > > LEARNING SHIVA PUJA. This will give you point by > > > > point instructions, > > > > following the book, to perform the puja. > > > > also, you can contact me and I will be glad to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > Vishweshwar > > > > , " Carie M " > > > > <m.cirene@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is that the book for 10.00? Peace, Carie > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 9:00 AM, gauri_108 <gauri_108@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Carrie, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a great sankalpa to take on. The > > > > begiiner Siva puja book is > > > > > > where a lot of us started out. It has all the > > > > components in a simple > > > > > > form that should not take more than 1/2 hou to > > > > do once you get > > > > > > compfortable with it. I always had a good time > > > > getting up in the > > > > > > morning, " cooking Siva breakfast " and then > > > > offering it in the puja. > > > > > > The sankalpa says that you perform the worship > > > > for 16 weeks...you can > > > > > > make it as simple or as elaborate as you like -- > > > > it's all about > > > > > > showing your love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Carie M " > > > > <m.cirene@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read it it is a beautiful story. What is > > > > required? > > > > > > > Peace, Carie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/26/07, devi <student61754@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone checked out the calendar at the > > > > > > Shreemaa.org > > > > <http://shreemaa.org/><http://shreemaa.org/> > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > It's great! > > > > > > > > Today is a good day to start the Siva > > > > Sankalpa for 16 Mondays! > > > > > > > > Anyone want to join in? > > > > > > > > We can all share questions & experiences in > > > > group. > > > > > > > > This is going to be fun. > > > > > > > > Look forward to seeing your posts. > > > > > > > > May each of your Mondays be blessed by > > > > haveing the honor of > > > > doing Siva > > > > > > > > Puja. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with > > > > friends inside > > > > Mail. See > > > > > > > > how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=51732/*http://overview.mail.. > com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > " Wherever you stand... be the soul of that > > > > place. " > > > > > > > - Rumi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " It's the blood of the Ancients > > > > > > > That runs in our veins > > > > > > > And the forms pass > > > > > > > But the circle of life remains " > > > > > > > ~Charlie Murphy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/taraerin58 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit us online at > > > > http://www.ShreeMaa.org<http://www.shreemaa.org/> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 So glad you asked these questions Henny. This is one of the things I like about our group, so many wonderful things to learn. Never a dull moment. So much love and growth. I never thought of it the way you see it, now there's another facet on the Siva puja to enjoy. I've used lingam like this off and on instead of coconut but you have opened upsome new ideas and questions as to the engery removal part of the puja. WOW Thank you,Deviinspectionconnection108 <inspectionconnection108 wrote: Namaste Henny: Here is Swami's response from your e mail, which I forwarded to him. His answers are embedded into your question. Hope you can understand it. This can help others who wish to expand their worship of Shiva. HENNY: I have some questions about prana pratishta in Shiva puja. > In a discussion of the Cosmic Puja it was mentioned that prana > pratishta can also be performed on the lingam instead of establishing a pot. So for some time now I have been trying to expand my Shiva puja by adding the establishment of life part. But I get into trouble about where to insert the procedure, get worried about making mistakes and go back to the familiar pattern. But that does not feel right either, there is a definite push to go further. So here are my questions: > > Normally, following the extended Shiva Puja as taught by Parvati some > time ago, I purify water and flowers (and after this I have inserted > bhuta shuddhi), then SWAMI: dhyanam/nyasa - establishment of life - japa and puja naivedya. > Where would I > insert the establishment of life in the lingam? > > If the establishment of life is done in the lingam (instead of > establishing a pot), how is it done? Do we use all the mantras for > establishing a pot (including touching the earth and offering baths > and powders etc.)? SWAMI: That's best. > Or do we skip the mantras for filling the pot and > start by establishing stillness, followed by the mantras for prana > pratishta (om am aam etc.)? SWAMI: If you're in a hurry this works. > > Once we have installed life in the lingam, do we then perform the > complete puja naivedya (i.e. offer baths and powders again)? > Or add > only food and drinking water? SWAMI: Above is best. This also works in a shorter puja. > > And when do we remove the divine energy; is this done immediately > after ending the puja in the morning or later in the evening? It is > probably a silly thing, but it does not feel right to establish life > and then go out to work, leaving Him all alone on the altar:). SWAMI: In the evening, after we have served him all day long through our various functions. > > HENNY: dear family, it is wonderful to be able to ask these questions. Even though I have not been posting much, I read all the posts and derive great inspiration and help from them. This group is a lifeline. And above all, my heartfelt gratitude goes out to Shree Maa and Swamiji, who never waver in their devotion to demonstrating truth, beauty and love to their children. SWAMI: Jai Maa! So nice to hear from you. We send you all our love and blessings. - JAI MAA JAI SWAMI VISHWESHWAR , "henny_v_i" <henny_v_i wrote: > > Namaste Vish, > > please accept my heartfelt appreciation for the seva you are doing > here on this forum; your posts are truly inspirational. Your speaking > about how a relationship is built with Shiva by starting with the > basic puja and then expanding, has rekindled a fire in my heart. > I perform the expanded puja Maa Parvati taught us (the 'lessons' were > posted here, so they must be in the archives, and this provided us > with a wonderful way to expand the basic puja as taught by Nandaji), > and now I would like to take it a step further. Some time ago, I asked > a question about it in the group, but no response came. So perhaps it > was not the right time or there was some other reason. But just in > case my question was overlooked, I have the audacity to bring post > 25042 to your attention, because I would dearly love to have the > answer. If my insistence is inappropriate, I will understand and I > will continue my practice as it is, > > with love, > Henny > > > > , "inspectionconnection108" > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Eric and all: if you have never performed Shiva puja, and > are > > not comfortable with the process and techniques of worship, it would > > be best to begin with the Beginner Shiva puja text. It is simple and > > straight forward. > > Also, the puja in the Advanced text takes quite a bit of time, while > > the Beginner can take 20-30 minutes, once you know how to do it. > > It is all up to you. What is your goal? How long do you have each > > Monday? How experienced are you with puja performance? > > If your goal is to begin a relationship with Shiva, then start > simple, > > and become very familiar with the basic beginner puja. Learn it by > > heart so that you can focus on worship, and not on reading the text > > and fumbling with the book and the articles of worship. > > In my own experience, I have found I could focus more on building a > > relationship with Shiva by keeping my practice simple, rather than > > getting into more elaborate and technically challenging techniques. > > Then in time, after I mastered the basic puja, I naturally wanted to > > expand my puja because I wanted to find more ways to tell Shiva how > > much I love him. then I added mantras from the advanced puja text. > > > > Jai Maa Jai Swami > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Eric Cassils <Quanchula1@> > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Vish, Devi et All, > > > > > > For the 16 Monday worship, if we have the advanced > > > Shiva puja book is it acceptable to use this book as > > > well. I know it would have been better to start with > > > something less advanced, but I was very attracted by > > > the cover of this book, and by it's sheer > > > completeness. > > > Jai Swami Jai Maa, Jai Maa Jai Swami > > > eric > > > --- inspectionconnection108 > > > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste Carie: Order the $10 book, SHIVA PUJA FOR > > > > BEGINNERS. Once > > > > you receive it, come to this club site, and on the > > > > left margin, you > > > > see a word "FILES", click on FILES and you will see > > > > a folder for > > > > LEARNING SHIVA PUJA. This will give you point by > > > > point instructions, > > > > following the book, to perform the puja. > > > > also, you can contact me and I will be glad to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > Vishweshwar > > > > , "Carie M" > > > > <m.cirene@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is that the book for 10.00? Peace, Carie > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 9:00 AM, gauri_108 <gauri_108@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Carrie, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a great sankalpa to take on. The > > > > begiiner Siva puja book is > > > > > > where a lot of us started out. It has all the > > > > components in a simple > > > > > > form that should not take more than 1/2 hou to > > > > do once you get > > > > > > compfortable with it. I always had a good time > > > > getting up in the > > > > > > morning, "cooking Siva breakfast" and then > > > > offering it in the puja. > > > > > > The sankalpa says that you perform the worship > > > > for 16 weeks...you can > > > > > > make it as simple or as elaborate as you like -- > > > > it's all about > > > > > > showing your love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Carie M" > > > > <m.cirene@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read it it is a beautiful story. What is > > > > required? > > > > > > > Peace, Carie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/26/07, devi <student61754@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone checked out the calendar at the > > > > > > Shreemaa.org > > > > <http://shreemaa.org/><http://shreemaa.org/> > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > It's great! > > > > > > > > Today is a good day to start the Siva > > > > Sankalpa for 16 Mondays! > > > > > > > > Anyone want to join in? > > > > > > > > We can all share questions & experiences in > > > > group. > > > > > > > > This is going to be fun. > > > > > > > > Look forward to seeing your posts. > > > > > > > > May each of your Mondays be blessed by > > > > haveing the honor of > > > > doing Siva > > > > > > > > Puja. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with > > > > friends inside > > > > Mail. See > > > > > > > > how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=51732/*http://overview.mail.. > com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > "Wherever you stand... be the soul of that > > > > place." > > > > > > > - Rumi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "It's the blood of the Ancients > > > > > > > That runs in our veins > > > > > > > And the forms pass > > > > > > > But the circle of life remains" > > > > > > > ~Charlie Murphy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/taraerin58 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit us online at > > > > http://www.ShreeMaa.org<http://www.shreemaa.org/> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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