to Devi and all, Re:HENNY AND ALL:SWAMI'S 2nd RESPONSE

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Namaste Devi,

 

thank you for asking questions about my questions:). It is so good to

learn together, I can't believe I forgot there is no shame in asking

(twice:)). And you are so right, Swamiji's explanation opens up whole

new ways of understanding. I've been having some difficulties

regarding my job, and just thinking and repeating mentally 'I am not

working for my boss, or for my own sake' did not really help

overcoming aversion etc. But the process of physically installing the

energy in the Deity in the morning and then going out to do His/Her

work will make the thought tangible and an actuality. And the way

Swamiji says to 'take the energy back into yourself, and let your

deity go to sleep' in the evening conjures up such sweet images in the

mind...

I am so glad I asked and that you are all here to help. I pray I will

not forget again. And we are so fortunate to have an enlightened

Teacher who is always willing to explain. Swamiji is so 'out there'

that I sometimes forget he is also 'in here'

 

I bow to Swamiji, He who is Patient and Kind to struggling Devotees

I bow to Shree Maa, She who Sings in the Heart of struggling Devotees

I bow to the Devi Mandir satsangha, the Hands reaching out to

struggling Devotees,

 

with love,

Henny

 

 

 

, " inspectionconnection108 "

<inspectionconnection108 wrote:

>

> Namaste Henny: additional data from Swami based on question from

Devi

> on Shiva puja. Devi's questions are below Swami's answer

> Jai Maa

> vish

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> Swami Satyananda <swamiji

> devi <student61754

> Cc: Vishveshwar Fetzer <inspectionconnection108

> Friday, November 30, 2007 11:34:20 AM

> Re: HENNY AND ALL:SWAMI'S RESPONSE (questions)

>

> Sure, I will love to have another class.

>

> Now, first, when you have time, do the entire puja.

> If you don't have time, then take short cuts.

> There is no such thing as a wrong puja.

> If you have love, if you are doing it for God, if you are trying

your

> best, you're doing it right.

>

> Now, if you want to take short cuts, try to keep the main elements

> together. It will be the most accurate.

> In the morning, install the energy in the deity, and then go off to

> perform His or Her work.

> In the night, take the energy back into yourself, and let your deity

> go to sleep.

>

> Have fun!

>

> Jai Maa!

>

>

>

> On Nov 30, 2007, at 10:42 AM, devi wrote:

>

> > Oh! kay! Now I'm not sure if I've been doing this correct.

> > So glad Henny asked these questions.

> > I just assumed you did the whole puja.

> > Then in one of the puja classed you (Swami) said next we would

> discuss taking down the pots. So now I wonder if I have been doing

> all incorrectly.

> > Do we set up pots then remove energy in evening? Am I

understanding

> this correctly? I do like Henny is talking about quite often and us

> lingam instead of coconut but figured the removing of energy was to

> take some into ourselves not nessasarily to take it all out of the

> creation in the pot. Sort of like taking the energy of the puja and

> Siva into the heart to carry with you through the day.

> >

> > Would it be possible sometime in the future for you to teach us

> about this Swamiji?

> > Thank you so much for all you teach us.

> > Devi

> >

> > inspectionconnection108 <inspectionconnection108 wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Henny: Here is Swami's response from your e mail,

which I

> > forwarded to him. His answers are embedded into your question.

Hope

> > you can understand it. This can help others who wish to expand

their

> > worship of Shiva.

> >

> > HENNY: I have some questions about prana pratishta in Shiva

puja.

> > > In a discussion of the Cosmic Puja it was mentioned that

prana

> > > pratishta can also be performed on the lingam instead of

> > establishing a pot. So for some time now I have been trying to

> expand

> > my Shiva puja by adding the establishment of life part. But I

> get into

> > trouble about where to insert the procedure, get worried about

> making

> > mistakes and go back to the familiar pattern. But that does

not feel

> > right either, there is a definite push to go further. So here

are my

> > questions:

> >

> > >

> > > Normally, following the extended Shiva Puja as taught by

> Parvati some

> > > time ago, I purify water and flowers (and after this I have

> inserted

> > > bhuta shuddhi), then

> >

> > SWAMI: dhyanam/nyasa - establishment of life - japa and puja

> naivedya.

> >

> > > Where would I

> > > insert the establishment of life in the lingam?

> >

> > >

> > > If the establishment of life is done in the lingam (instead

of

> > > establishing a pot), how is it done? Do we use all the

mantras for

> > > establishing a pot (including touching the earth and

offering

> baths

> > > and powders etc.)?

> >

> > SWAMI: That's best.

> >

> > > Or do we skip the mantras for filling the pot and

> > > start by establishing stillness, followed by the mantras for

prana

> > > pratishta (om am aam etc.)?

> >

> > SWAMI: If you're in a hurry this works.

> >

> > >

> > > Once we have installed life in the lingam, do we then

perform the

> > > complete puja naivedya (i.e. offer baths and powders again)?

> >

> > > Or add

> > > only food and drinking water?

> >

> > SWAMI: Above is best. This also works in a shorter puja.

> > >

> > > And when do we remove the divine energy; is this done

immediately

> > > after ending the puja in the morning or later in the

evening?

> It is

> > > probably a silly thing, but it does not feel right to

> establish life

> > > and then go out to work, leaving Him all alone on the altar:

).

> >

> > SWAMI: In the evening, after we have served him all day long

> through our

> > various functions.

> > >

> > >

> > HENNY: dear family, it is wonderful to be able to ask these

> questions.

> > Even though I have not been posting much, I read all the posts

and

> > derive great inspiration and help from them. This group is a

> lifeline.

> > And above all, my heartfelt gratitude goes out to Shree Maa

and

> > Swamiji, who never waver in their devotion to demonstrating

truth,

> > beauty and love to their children.

> >

> > SWAMI: Jai Maa! So nice to hear from you.

> > We send you all our love and blessings.

> > -

> >

> > JAI MAA JAI SWAMI

> >

> > VISHWESHWAR

> >

> > , " henny_v_i " <henny_v_i@

> ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Vish,

> > >

> > > please accept my heartfelt appreciation for the seva you are

> doing

> > > here on this forum; your posts are truly inspirational. Your

> speaking

> > > about how a relationship is built with Shiva by starting

with the

> > > basic puja and then expanding, has rekindled a fire in my

heart.

> > > I perform the expanded puja Maa Parvati taught us (the

> 'lessons' were

> > > posted here, so they must be in the archives, and this

> provided us

> > > with a wonderful way to expand the basic puja as taught by

> Nandaji),

> > > and now I would like to take it a step further. Some time

ago,

> I asked

> > > a question about it in the group, but no response came. So

> perhaps it

> > > was not the right time or there was some other reason. But

> just in

> > > case my question was overlooked, I have the audacity to

bring

> post

> > > 25042 to your attention, because I would dearly love to have

the

> > > answer. If my insistence is inappropriate, I will understand

> and I

> > > will continue my practice as it is,

> > >

> > > with love,

> > > Henny

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " inspectionconnecti

on108 "

> > > <inspectionconnecti on108@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Eric and all: if you have never performed Shiva

> puja, and

> > > are

> > > > not comfortable with the process and techniques of

worship,

> it would

> > > > be best to begin with the Beginner Shiva puja text. It is

> simple and

> > > > straight forward.

> > > > Also, the puja in the Advanced text takes quite a bit of

> time, while

> > > > the Beginner can take 20-30 minutes, once you know how to

do

> it.

> > > > It is all up to you. What is your goal? How long do you

have

> each

> > > > Monday? How experienced are you with puja performance?

> > > > If your goal is to begin a relationship with Shiva, then

start

> > > simple,

> > > > and become very familiar with the basic beginner puja.

Learn

> it by

> > > > heart so that you can focus on worship, and not on reading

> the text

> > > > and fumbling with the book and the articles of worship.

> > > > In my own experience, I have found I could focus more on

> building a

> > > > relationship with Shiva by keeping my practice simple, r

>