Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I thought this was beautiful, so I am forwarding it here for all to enjoy! JAI MAHADEV!!! Surya - One day, a professor of a university decided to defy his pupils. He asked : did God create everything that exists? A student answered bravely: " yes, He did. " - Everything? asked the teacher. -Yes, everything. Was the answer of the student. In this case, God also created evil, correct? Because evil exists. - said the teacher. To that, the student had no answer and remained silent. The teacher was delighted at the opportunity to prove one more time that faith was only a myth. Suddenly, another student raised his hand and asked: " May I ask you a question , professor? " " Of course " , was the answer. Does cold exist? -Of course, answered the professor Did you never feel cold? " Actually, sir, cold does not exist. According to studies in Physics, cold is the total and complete absence of heat. An object can only be studied if it has and transmits energy and it is the heat of an object that transmits it's energy . " Without heat, the objects are inert, incapable to react. But cold does not exist. We created the term cold to explain the lack of heat " " And darkness? " , continues the student. - " It exists " , replied the professor " Again, you're wrong sir, darkness is the total absence of light. You can study light and brightness, but not darkness. The prism of Nichols shows the variety of different colors in which the light can be decomposed according to the longitude of the waves. Darkness is the term we created to explain the total absence of light " And finally, the sudent asked: " And evil, sir, does evil exist? " God did not create evil. Evil is the absence of God in people's hearts, it is the absence of love, humanity and faith. Love and faith are like heat and light. They exist. Their absence lead to evil " Now it was the professor's turn to remain silent.. The name of the student was : ALBERT EINSTEIN -- Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1293 - Release 2/22/2008 9:21 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I definitely agree that evil is not anything we need to fear. Certainly evil is something we create for ourselves. But, the scriptures clearly state that at least some demons were angels that Narayana had incarnated into demons in order to help Human Evolution. So, from our human perspective these " evil " things are bad. But that is only our limited human perspective. When we view these " evil " beings or occurences from Ma's perspective, we see that they were really angels in disguise trying to push us forward. So, even though I agree with the major thrust of the story, I also believe that things which we perceive to be evil are in fact created by God to help us humans to evolve. The Devas don't like change, so God creates demons to stir things up so that we humans will seek God and evolve. So, although unpleasant, I believe " Evil " is necessary for our growth. Just my humble opinion. Shabd , " Mahamuni Das " <mahamuni wrote: > > I thought this was beautiful, so I am forwarding it here for all to enjoy! > > JAI MAHADEV!!! > > Surya > > > - > > One day, a professor of a university decided to defy his pupils. > > He asked : did God create everything that exists? > > A student answered bravely: " yes, He did. " > > - Everything? asked the teacher. > > -Yes, everything. Was the answer of the student. > > In this case, God also created evil, correct? > > Because evil exists. - said the teacher. > > To that, the student had no answer and remained silent. > > The teacher was delighted at the opportunity to prove > one more time that faith was only a myth. > > Suddenly, another student raised his hand and asked: > " May I ask you a question , professor? " > > " Of course " , was the answer. > > Does cold exist? > > -Of course, answered the professor > > Did you never feel cold? > > " Actually, sir, cold does not exist. > According to studies in Physics, > cold is the total and complete absence of heat. > > An object can only be studied if it has and transmits energy > and it is the heat of an object that transmits it's energy . > > " Without heat, the objects are inert, > incapable to react. But cold does not exist. > We created the term cold to explain the lack of heat " > > " And darkness? " , continues the student. > > - " It exists " , replied the professor > > " Again, you're wrong sir, darkness is the total absence of light. > > You can study light and brightness, but not darkness. > > The prism of Nichols shows the variety of different colors > in which the light can be decomposed according to the longitude of the waves. > > Darkness is the term we created to explain the total absence of light " > > And finally, the sudent asked: > > " And evil, sir, does evil exist? " > > God did not create evil. > Evil is the absence of God in people's hearts, > it is the absence of love, humanity and faith. > > Love and faith are like heat and light. They exist. > > Their absence lead to evil " > > Now it was the professor's turn to remain silent.. > > The name of the student was : > > ALBERT EINSTEIN > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1293 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 9:21 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hi Y'all, I wondered whether or not to reply to this even though I felt I had something to say. It is very beautiful and I do not want to take away from that. I will try not to detract. I think that this is a very good description of the nature of evil in Maya. However, I think it is important to remember that God is the totality, including that which does not " exist " . Want and pain are part and parcel, along with fulfillment and joy, of this yatra (pilgrimage) we call life. Even if God cannot be said to have " created " the absence of a thing (though I think She can), She nevertheless creates the circumstance of lack through which " evil " is manifested. It is the great tapestry of life, and something we all need to come to terms with in our relationship with Her, eventually. I think this matter of evil is very much a matter of perspective. I remember Swamiji answering someone's, I guess it was Steven Newmark's, question in Before Becoming This, about the end of the Satya Yuga, the Age of Truth, that time in the Earth's history when life was nearest to perfection. He described a time when all the saints and sages were hunted down and murdered by the impassioned people of the newly dawning darker age. This is a great evil, to murder a sage, but to the sage it would have been wrong to use their great power to harm the attacker. As Swamiji put it, they said to themselves, " It is a sin to take advantage of another, but it is not a sin to be taken advantage of, " and so they allowed themselves to be killed, or they withdrew to the mountains. The dark side won, as Swamiji said. It was the dharma of the time that it was so. The procession of the ages required it, and much much more pain and death in the millennia to come. I think, as I have read again and again, that to the sage death is like putting on a new suit. Though it seems a great evil to us, especially untimely death, to those who can see beyond the ridge into the land beyond, it is only part of a great and wonderful journey - ultimately a journey of love. In some way I cannot now apprehend, it must be true that all of this suffering we endure will become unimportant, despite its present urgency, in the flood of bliss and flames of wisdom that will destroy all this limitation when I am finally freed by Her. Like a dream, remembered, but unaffecting, I will see the great road of striving and suffering, achievement and honors, as the pure expression of Divinity and will revel only in its beauty. Jai Maa! Chris , " Mahamuni Das " <mahamuni wrote: > > I thought this was beautiful, so I am forwarding it here for all to enjoy! > > JAI MAHADEV!!! > > Surya > > > - > > One day, a professor of a university decided to defy his pupils. > > He asked : did God create everything that exists? > > A student answered bravely: " yes, He did. " > > - Everything? asked the teacher. > > -Yes, everything. Was the answer of the student. > > In this case, God also created evil, correct? > > Because evil exists. - said the teacher. > > To that, the student had no answer and remained silent. > > The teacher was delighted at the opportunity to prove > one more time that faith was only a myth. > > Suddenly, another student raised his hand and asked: > " May I ask you a question , professor? " > > " Of course " , was the answer. > > Does cold exist? > > -Of course, answered the professor > > Did you never feel cold? > > " Actually, sir, cold does not exist. > According to studies in Physics, > cold is the total and complete absence of heat. > > An object can only be studied if it has and transmits energy > and it is the heat of an object that transmits it's energy . > > " Without heat, the objects are inert, > incapable to react. But cold does not exist. > We created the term cold to explain the lack of heat " > > " And darkness? " , continues the student. > > - " It exists " , replied the professor > > " Again, you're wrong sir, darkness is the total absence of light. > > You can study light and brightness, but not darkness. > > The prism of Nichols shows the variety of different colors > in which the light can be decomposed according to the longitude of the waves. > > Darkness is the term we created to explain the total absence of light " > > And finally, the sudent asked: > > " And evil, sir, does evil exist? " > > God did not create evil. > Evil is the absence of God in people's hearts, > it is the absence of love, humanity and faith. > > Love and faith are like heat and light. They exist. > > Their absence lead to evil " > > Now it was the professor's turn to remain silent.. > > The name of the student was : > > ALBERT EINSTEIN > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1293 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 9:21 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hi Chris,Thank you for your comments on this Subject. I agree with you when you write the following: "However, I think it is important to remember that God is the totality, including that which does not "exist". Vedanta points out that "all that exists is God". So both Good and evil cannot exist apart from God (and there can be no outside of God). The Dual world of opposites - good and evil, hot and cold are but the play of the Divine Mother - Shakti!I enjoyed reading your comment as well the original piece on Einstien.SivakumarChris <sadyojataya wrote: Hi Y'all, I wondered whether or not to reply to this even though I felt I had something to say. It is very beautiful and I do not want to take away from that. I will try not to detract. I think that this is a very good description of the nature of evil in Maya. However, I think it is important to remember that God is the totality, including that which does not "exist". Want and pain are part and parcel, along with fulfillment and joy, of this yatra (pilgrimage) we call life. Even if God cannot be said to have "created" the absence of a thing (though I think She can), She nevertheless creates the circumstance of lack through which "evil" is manifested. It is the great tapestry of life, and something we all need to come to terms with in our relationship with Her, eventually. I think this matter of evil is very much a matter of perspective. I remember Swamiji answering someone's, I guess it was Steven Newmark's, question in Before Becoming This, about the end of the Satya Yuga, the Age of Truth, that time in the Earth's history when life was nearest to perfection. He described a time when all the saints and sages were hunted down and murdered by the impassioned people of the newly dawning darker age. This is a great evil, to murder a sage, but to the sage it would have been wrong to use their great power to harm the attacker. As Swamiji put it, they said to themselves, "It is a sin to take advantage of another, but it is not a sin to be taken advantage of," and so they allowed themselves to be killed, or they withdrew to the mountains. The dark side won, as Swamiji said. It was the dharma of the time that it was so. The procession of the ages required it, and much much more pain and death in the millennia to come. I think, as I have read again and again, that to the sage death is like putting on a new suit. Though it seems a great evil to us, especially untimely death, to those who can see beyond the ridge into the land beyond, it is only part of a great and wonderful journey - ultimately a journey of love. In some way I cannot now apprehend, it must be true that all of this suffering we endure will become unimportant, despite its present urgency, in the flood of bliss and flames of wisdom that will destroy all this limitation when I am finally freed by Her. Like a dream, remembered, but unaffecting, I will see the great road of striving and suffering, achievement and honors, as the pure expression of Divinity and will revel only in its beauty. Jai Maa! Chris , "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > I thought this was beautiful, so I am forwarding it here for all to enjoy! > > JAI MAHADEV!!! > > Surya > > > - > > One day, a professor of a university decided to defy his pupils. > > He asked : did God create everything that exists? > > A student answered bravely: "yes, He did." > > - Everything? asked the teacher. > > -Yes, everything. Was the answer of the student. > > In this case, God also created evil, correct? > > Because evil exists. - said the teacher. > > To that, the student had no answer and remained silent. > > The teacher was delighted at the opportunity to prove > one more time that faith was only a myth. > > Suddenly, another student raised his hand and asked: > "May I ask you a question , professor?" > > "Of course" , was the answer. > > Does cold exist? > > -Of course, answered the professor > > Did you never feel cold? > > " Actually, sir, cold does not exist. > According to studies in Physics, > cold is the total and complete absence of heat. > > An object can only be studied if it has and transmits energy > and it is the heat of an object that transmits it's energy . > > "Without heat, the objects are inert, > incapable to react. But cold does not exist. > We created the term cold to explain the lack of heat" > > "And darkness?" , continues the student. > > -"It exists", replied the professor > > "Again, you're wrong sir, darkness is the total absence of light. > > You can study light and brightness, but not darkness. > > The prism of Nichols shows the variety of different colors > in which the light can be decomposed according to the longitude of the waves. > > Darkness is the term we created to explain the total absence of light" > > And finally, the sudent asked: > > "And evil, sir, does evil exist?" > > God did not create evil. > Evil is the absence of God in people's hearts, > it is the absence of love, humanity and faith. > > Love and faith are like heat and light. They exist. > > Their absence lead to evil" > > Now it was the professor's turn to remain silent.. > > The name of the student was : > > ALBERT EINSTEIN > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1293 - Release 2/22/2008 9:21 AM > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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