Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Namaste! I agree with all Brother Vishweshwarji has said. To add a few quick comments, I would start with different lineages have different traditions. The right way to learn a tradition is not through a book but from the mouth of a teacher. A book will never be complete and will always lack context. A book will supplement the teaching. Almost all traditions of reciting Sri Sri Chandi Path, utilize the Siddha Kunjika Stotram. The exact mantras/syllables in the SKS, the Chandi Path or any of the other auxilliary stotrams can be different. That is OK. Each lineage is complete unto itself. Just follow one teacher and dive deep! There is only One Guru--MAA! All others are Shakshi Gurus (Witness Gurus). It is hard for our Western minds to reconcile that there is more than one "right" way. Our educational foundation teaches us to find the "right" answer or way. It likes to organize things in a very right brain way--each thing in its compartment. In the esoteric spiritual traditions of India, it is the opposite. There are multiple right ways. Right ways to chant and pronouce Sanskrit, right ways of what to chant, how to worship, etc. The main thing is that we do it. If our goal is enlightening our Consciousness, Opening our Heart, etc, or any other term that is selfless as opposed to chanting with a selfish desire, then all we do is fine and we will be guided by the Source of All as to what is best for us, and will continue to be guided this way on and on. JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Surya - inspectionconnection108 Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:38 PM [www.ShreeMaa.org] Marsha: Question Namaste Marsha and all: Having never heard of this translation, I wentto the web and located a review of the book. Since it is not by ourSwami and Maa, one cannot guess why the heart of the text was barelymentioned. With all respect, I can only comment on The Chandi Path astranslated and presented by Swami and Shree Maa. I recall Swamirecounting how he deliberated and meditated on each Sanskrit letter,so that he could translate and present the fullness of the slokas tothe reader.Having been in Maa and Swami's family for 11 years now, it is myexperience that this version of the Chandi presents the fullness ofHer Bliss to all who immerse themselves in Her sacred study. So, have faith that Maa and Swami have given us the totality of MaaChandi's shakti in this translation, and most importantly, that theysupport each devotee who takes this text in hand and chants the verses. Dive into Swami's on-line Chandi classes, available for free on theMandir web site, and read the 700 verses in English, then, obtain theCD's of Maa and Swami chanting the Chandi and chant along with them. Please share your experience with us.Also, would other family members who chant the Chandi regularly pleaseshare your experiences?Jai Maa Jai Swamivishweshwar , "Marsha" <FarrarE wrote:>> Namaste,> > > > I have a copy of In Praise of the Goddess: The Devimahatmya and ItsMeaning> ~ I have found only one short reference to the Navarna Mantra and the> Siddha Kunjika Stotram is not to be found . does anyone know whythis is?> > > > Jai Maa ~ Jai Swamiji> > > > Marsha> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release 3/29/2008 5:02 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Namaste Vishveshwar, I have total faith that Maa and Swamiji have given us the Chandi in it’s fullest, but was puzzled why a translation would leave it out! Why would one leave out the Heart of it? I do have the CD with the Sanskrit recitation and classes…. I listen and practice various tracks daily. Today is set aside for finalizing my ‘study plan’ before the visit. Company has left and I am home alone for five days! The friend who was here started listening to Swamiji’s classes with me in the evenings and began humming along with Siddha Kunjika …. she loves ‘Klim” from the Navarna Mantra. My husband, David, who is only here on the weekends, woke up one morning with Maa’s voice singing in his head! …. he doesn’t know what she was singing, but most likely the Siddha Kunjika since I listen so often ~ could it have been a personal song for him ! ? ! I listen and chant with Siddha Kunjika daily. Chris was kind enough to give me instruction on how to slow and record the parts where I have trouble with pronunciation. By the end of today I will have mastered those parts that I’ve been ‘stumbling’ through! Jai Maa ~ Jai Swamiji Marsha On Behalf Of inspectionconnection108 Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:39 PM [www.ShreeMaa.org] Marsha: Question Namaste Marsha and all: Having never heard of this translation, I went to the web and located a review of the book. Since it is not by our Swami and Maa, one cannot guess why the heart of the text was barely mentioned. With all respect, I can only comment on The Chandi Path as translated and presented by Swami and Shree Maa. I recall Swami recounting how he deliberated and meditated on each Sanskrit letter, so that he could translate and present the fullness of the slokas to the reader. Having been in Maa and Swami's family for 11 years now, it is my experience that this version of the Chandi presents the fullness of Her Bliss to all who immerse themselves in Her sacred study. So, have faith that Maa and Swami have given us the totality of Maa Chandi's shakti in this translation, and most importantly, that they support each devotee who takes this text in hand and chants the verses. Dive into Swami's on-line Chandi classes, available for free on the Mandir web site, and read the 700 verses in English, then, obtain the CD's of Maa and Swami chanting the Chandi and chant along with them. Please share your experience with us. Also, would other family members who chant the Chandi regularly please share your experiences? Jai Maa Jai Swami vishweshwar , " Marsha " <FarrarE wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > I have a copy of In Praise of the Goddess: The Devimahatmya and Its Meaning > ~ I have found only one short reference to the Navarna Mantra and the > Siddha Kunjika Stotram is not to be found . does anyone know why this is? > > > > Jai Maa ~ Jai Swamiji > > > > Marsha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Namaste Surya! Thank you for your added comments on Vishveshwar’s email. I agree, there are differences in traditions. Although I’ve studied other scriptures over the years I had never encountered Chandi, and when I ran across another work on the subject my ‘western mind’ had to check it out, and was stunned to find no mention of one of the sections which spoke to me most powerfully. (I do suffer from the western ‘right way’ and ‘research all the angles’ syndromes … I have made progress in clearing this, but the seed remains.) In terms of finding One Guru … that has been my desire for more than half of my 65 years …. I’ve met guru’s from several traditions, but none have ‘touched’ me. I sincerely desire that Shree Maa and Swamiji (and the rest of the family), are my family. An interesting thing happened after I read your email yesterday … I thought back to when I was convinced I had found my lineage with Swami LakshamanJo / Kashmirian Shaivism. Shortly thereafter, I became acquainted with someone who knew him and found that he had passed shortly before. He was the last in the lineage. Anyway, last night I listened to Swamiji’s final commentary on the CD and in the discussion at the end he mentioned Abhinavagupta as author of DeviMayi and as being most prominent in K. Shaivism AND that his sadhana had been Chandi! The aspect of Ahbinavagupta’s writings/commentaries that most fascinates me is the metaphysics of language as it relates to consciousness. And this connects to the night before when I had re-listened to Swamiji’s commentary on Sri Devyatharvasirsam (specifically verses 14 and 20) …. here again, my passion for that aspect of the language. I would like to find Abhinavagupta’s English commentary on Chandi …. I’ve found reference to it, but no source yet. Although I am fairly rusty on the little I know of the language, Swamiji rekindled my interest early on, and now that KS has been linked I am hopeful I am on track. Jai Maa ~ Jai Swami Marsha On Behalf Of Mahamuni Das Monday, March 31, 2008 9:22 AM Re: [www.ShreeMaa.org] Marsha: Question Namaste! I agree with all Brother Vishweshwarji has said. To add a few quick comments, I would start with different lineages have different traditions. The right way to learn a tradition is not through a book but from the mouth of a teacher. A book will never be complete and will always lack context. A book will supplement the teaching. Almost all traditions of reciting Sri Sri Chandi Path, utilize the Siddha Kunjika Stotram. The exact mantras/syllables in the SKS, the Chandi Path or any of the other auxilliary stotrams can be different. That is OK. Each lineage is complete unto itself. Just follow one teacher and dive deep! There is only One Guru--MAA! All others are Shakshi Gurus (Witness Gurus). It is hard for our Western minds to reconcile that there is more than one " right " way. Our educational foundation teaches us to find the " right " answer or way. It likes to organize things in a very right brain way--each thing in its compartment. In the esoteric spiritual traditions of India, it is the opposite. There are multiple right ways. Right ways to chant and pronouce Sanskrit, right ways of what to chant, how to worship, etc. The main thing is that we do it. If our goal is enlightening our Consciousness, Opening our Heart, etc, or any other term that is selfless as opposed to chanting with a selfish desire, then all we do is fine and we will be guided by the Source of All as to what is best for us, and will continue to be guided this way on and on. JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Surya ----- Original Message ----- inspectionconnection108 Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:38 PM [www.ShreeMaa.org] Marsha: Question Namaste Marsha and all: Having never heard of this translation, I went to the web and located a review of the book. Since it is not by our Swami and Maa, one cannot guess why the heart of the text was barely mentioned. With all respect, I can only comment on The Chandi Path as translated and presented by Swami and Shree Maa. I recall Swami recounting how he deliberated and meditated on each Sanskrit letter, so that he could translate and present the fullness of the slokas to the reader. Having been in Maa and Swami's family for 11 years now, it is my experience that this version of the Chandi presents the fullness of Her Bliss to all who immerse themselves in Her sacred study. So, have faith that Maa and Swami have given us the totality of Maa Chandi's shakti in this translation, and most importantly, that they support each devotee who takes this text in hand and chants the verses. Dive into Swami's on-line Chandi classes, available for free on the Mandir web site, and read the 700 verses in English, then, obtain the CD's of Maa and Swami chanting the Chandi and chant along with them. Please share your experience with us. Also, would other family members who chant the Chandi regularly please share your experiences? Jai Maa Jai Swami vishweshwar , " Marsha " <FarrarE wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > I have a copy of In Praise of the Goddess: The Devimahatmya and Its Meaning > ~ I have found only one short reference to the Navarna Mantra and the > Siddha Kunjika Stotram is not to be found . does anyone know why this is? > > > > Jai Maa ~ Jai Swamiji > > > > Marsha > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release 3/29/2008 5:02 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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