Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

To Shabd regarding your Mantra question

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

Namaste Shabd,

 

I decided to add a few things to Vishweshwaji's comments because I think he might have missed the point of why you were asking this question.

 

First, the mantra you are referring to is one of the mantras to remove the curses by Brahmaa (Brahmaadi Shapa Vimochanam). The whole mantra is actually (without the diacritical marks of course):

 

Om aim hrim klim namah sivayai abhedya kavaca svarupinya brahma vasistha visvamitra sapad vimukta bhava

 

Like all the mantras in this section, which is one of the sections repeated before we chant Sri Sri Chandi Path, it is for a specific purpose. It is not a personal deity mantra, so it is not a mantra for japa in that way.

 

I am going to guess that you have some attraction for it because possibly you feel you want to worship Shakti and Shiva together. First let me say, that either form of the One Divinity certainly contains the other (and all others). So by worshipping one, you worship the other. You can't lose out here.

 

But each form has its certain rasa and bhava in the earlier stages especially. So there is nothing wrong with this type of desire. Here are three mantras you could repeat, if you feel drawn to do so:

 

Om Hrim Namah Shivaya

This is known as Siva Gauri Panchakshari Mantra

 

Om Shiva Shakti Aikya Rupinyai Namah

This is the 999th name (in Namavali form) of Lalita Tripurasundari from the Lalitha Sahasranam. It translates as Om I bow to She who is the form of the unification of Shiva and Shakti. This is used for japa by many people in Kerala, Tamil Nadu, etc, that wish to worship God in this way. The Kahadi tradition, one of the 3 "schools" of Sri Vidya, has its focus in Shakti and Shiva together as One Supreme, rather than the Kadi school which focuses on Shakti as the Absolute (the most prolific tradition of which the Devi Mandir belongs) or the Hadi school which focus on Shiva as the Absolute.

 

Om Ardhanarishwaryai Namah

Ardhanarishwara is the form of Shiva that is Half Shiva/Half Parvati, after they merged.

 

As far as your question about rearranging the syllables, which a few other people have mentioned recently if memory serves me correctly, this is seen with the Namah Shivaya mantra in some South Indian traditions, like in Tamil Nadu. The 5 syllables (Na Ma Shi Va Ya) are arranged and recited in different order for different effects. I believe there is a stotram of this composed by the great Tamil Siddha Tirumoolar (Thirumular). I am not familiar with specifics and I believe this might be the only mantra this is done with. As far as I know, this tradition is not practiced at the Devi Mandir. There are so many, many esoteric traditions in India! Fortunately they all lead to the same place!

 

I hope this helps fill in the blanks. Forgive me if I assume wrongly as to what information you were seeking.

 

JAI AMMA!

 

Surya

 

 

 

 

, "Michael Denney"<thehealingdrum wrote:>> while reading the Chandi Path book, on page 53, I read "Om Aim Hrim> Klim Namah Shivayai" Is this an accepted mantra for Japa? Or will it> not work out of context?> Thanks for your answers..> Shabd>

 

 

Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1395 - Release 4/24/2008 7:24 AM

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Thank You Surya,

Yes that answered my question. I suspected that the mantra portion I

was asking about probably needed to be chanted in context with the

whole. I had not previously seen the mantras you shared with me. Thank

you. Your reply was very helpful.

Shabd

 

, " Surya " <mahamuni wrote:

>

> Namaste Shabd,

>

> I decided to add a few things to Vishweshwaji's comments because I

think he might have missed the point of why you were asking this question.

>

> First, the mantra you are referring to is one of the mantras to

remove the curses by Brahmaa (Brahmaadi Shapa Vimochanam). The whole

mantra is actually (without the diacritical marks of course):

>

> Om aim hrim klim namah sivayai abhedya kavaca svarupinya brahma

vasistha visvamitra sapad vimukta bhava

>

> Like all the mantras in this section, which is one of the sections

repeated before we chant Sri Sri Chandi Path, it is for a specific

purpose. It is not a personal deity mantra, so it is not a mantra for

japa in that way.

>

> I am going to guess that you have some attraction for it because

possibly you feel you want to worship Shakti and Shiva together.

First let me say, that either form of the One Divinity certainly

contains the other (and all others). So by worshipping one, you

worship the other. You can't lose out here.

>

> But each form has its certain rasa and bhava in the earlier stages

especially. So there is nothing wrong with this type of desire. Here

are three mantras you could repeat, if you feel drawn to do so:

>

> Om Hrim Namah Shivaya

> This is known as Siva Gauri Panchakshari Mantra

>

> Om Shiva Shakti Aikya Rupinyai Namah

> This is the 999th name (in Namavali form) of Lalita Tripurasundari

from the Lalitha Sahasranam. It translates as Om I bow to She who is

the form of the unification of Shiva and Shakti. This is used for

japa by many people in Kerala, Tamil Nadu, etc, that wish to worship

God in this way. The Kahadi tradition, one of the 3 " schools " of Sri

Vidya, has its focus in Shakti and Shiva together as One Supreme,

rather than the Kadi school which focuses on Shakti as the Absolute

(the most prolific tradition of which the Devi Mandir belongs) or the

Hadi school which focus on Shiva as the Absolute.

>

> Om Ardhanarishwaryai Namah

> Ardhanarishwara is the form of Shiva that is Half Shiva/Half

Parvati, after they merged.

>

> As far as your question about rearranging the syllables, which a few

other people have mentioned recently if memory serves me correctly,

this is seen with the Namah Shivaya mantra in some South Indian

traditions, like in Tamil Nadu. The 5 syllables (Na Ma Shi Va Ya) are

arranged and recited in different order for different effects. I

believe there is a stotram of this composed by the great Tamil Siddha

Tirumoolar (Thirumular). I am not familiar with specifics and I

believe this might be the only mantra this is done with. As far as I

know, this tradition is not practiced at the Devi Mandir. There are

so many, many esoteric traditions in India! Fortunately they all lead

to the same place!

>

> I hope this helps fill in the blanks. Forgive me if I assume

wrongly as to what information you were seeking.

>

> JAI AMMA!

>

> Surya

, " Michael Denney "

> <thehealingdrum@> wrote:

> >

> > while reading the Chandi Path book, on page 53, I read " Om Aim Hrim

> > Klim Namah Shivayai " Is this an accepted mantra for Japa? Or will it

> > not work out of context?

> > Thanks for your answers..

> > Shabd

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

>

>

>

> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1395 - Release Date:

4/24/2008 7:24 AM

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...