Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Friends, A recap of this evening's class on Chapter 3 Love, srini She nourishes her devotees with wisdom and devotion. When Devoid of Clear Understanding dies, we become clear about our objectives. Memories was cut down by the sword of wisdom. Whenever memories arise, remember the wisdom that we learned. When Mother drinks from Her cup of wine, She is drinking the nectar of devotion. The new generals of the army of the great ego that arrive in Chapter 3: Disbelief Anxiety Blindness Violent temper Passion Irresistible temptation Foul mouth Questions: 1. In our tradition, does introspection play a part in getting rid of the ego. Thank you. Introspection is a first good step. This will allow us to think about how we want to organize our lives so that we can sit in meditation. 2. What is the symbolism of the ego's manifestation as elephant and as the man with a sword? Elephant stands for ahimsa, man with sword represents violence 3. Is it possible to ever gain the state of " witness " permanently? To live in the world and stay centered regardless of what thoughts come and go? Or, do thoughts always come up to drive us out of our center? If these were to happen, how can we explain creation? It is possible to stay for some duration and then there is a new creation, a new thought. When we are acting and interacting, we want to act from the center from the memory of what it is to be to act from center of unity. 4. Is one ever able to get rid of all the asuras dwelling within? In which event would admitting that " I have conquered this demon' amount to conceit? Yes it will amount to conceit. We don't conquer the demon, She does. 5. Don't we require ego and his general to survive in this world? If we totally annihilate ego and his armies and what remains? Would it possible to continue working in the world of maya? Or do the Ego and his generals supposed to remain in subjugation? Yes. I cannot act and interact without I. But I can act and interact with the memory of what it is like to be in state of unity. When we slay ego we go into Samadhi. When we come out ego is back. 6. Is it okay to sometimes let the ego or mind have its way (be nice & loving to it, give & take - rather than fighting it all the time) and get what we want later? Forcing the mind to do good things all the time, sometimes doesn't work. How does one battle this? Every now and then we can give the ego a night off (laughter). We cannot fight ego. All we can do is to pray to Mother to take the ego away. I am tired of being a human being, I want to become a God again. 7. Isn't filling yourself with positive thoughts a step towards being devoid of thoughts? Thank you Absolutely. It is the first step. Story of three thieves (rajo, tamas, sattva guna) 8. Does samadhi relieve human suffering? It relieves the suffering of the human who experiences Samadhi. It does not relieve all suffering of all people for all time. Samadhi is very important milestone in our path, but it is not the end. 9. Why is this battle designed to be so difficult to win? Wouldn't there be more peace in the world if we could conquer this ego battle a little quicker? We will answer that question in the next chapter. See verses 18-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Namaste Srini and all: Swami helped me understand a major point in our life on this planet: " We can't fight the ego, we can only pray to Mother to fight him on our behalf. " She gives us the ego, She gives us confusion, She gives us the means to remove the ego, and by Her Grace, the ego is removed when the time is right. Jai Ma Jai Swami vishweshwar , " srini_sadhu " <srini_sadhu wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > A recap of this evening's class on Chapter 3 > > Love, > srini > > She nourishes her devotees with wisdom and devotion. > > When Devoid of Clear Understanding dies, we become clear about our > objectives. > > Memories was cut down by the sword of wisdom. Whenever memories arise, > remember the wisdom that we learned. > > When Mother drinks from Her cup of wine, She is drinking the nectar of > devotion. > > The new generals of the army of the great ego that arrive in Chapter 3: > > Disbelief > Anxiety > Blindness > Violent temper > Passion > Irresistible temptation > Foul mouth > > Questions: > 1. In our tradition, does introspection play a part in getting rid of > the ego. Thank you. > > Introspection is a first good step. This will allow us to think about > how we want to organize our lives so that we can sit in meditation. > > 2. What is the symbolism of the ego's manifestation as elephant and as > the man with a sword? > > Elephant stands for ahimsa, man with sword represents violence > > 3. Is it possible to ever gain the state of " witness " permanently? To > live in the world and stay centered regardless of what thoughts come > and go? Or, do thoughts always come up to drive us out of our center? > > If these were to happen, how can we explain creation? It is possible > to stay for some duration and then there is a new creation, a new > thought. When we are acting and interacting, we want to act from the > center from the memory of what it is to be to act from center of unity. > > 4. Is one ever able to get rid of all the asuras dwelling within? In > which event would admitting that " I have conquered this demon' amount > to conceit? > > Yes it will amount to conceit. We don't conquer the demon, She does. > > 5. Don't we require ego and his general to survive in this world? If > we totally annihilate ego and his armies and what remains? Would it > possible to continue working in the world of maya? Or do the Ego and > his generals supposed to remain in subjugation? > > Yes. I cannot act and interact without I. But I can act and interact > with the memory of what it is like to be in state of unity. When we > slay ego we go into Samadhi. When we come out ego is back. > > 6. Is it okay to sometimes let the ego or mind have its way (be nice & > loving to it, give & take - rather than fighting it all the time) and > get what we want later? Forcing the mind to do good things all the > time, sometimes doesn't work. How does one battle this? > > Every now and then we can give the ego a night off (laughter). We > cannot fight ego. All we can do is to pray to Mother to take the ego > away. I am tired of being a human being, I want to become a God again. > > 7. Isn't filling yourself with positive thoughts a step towards being > devoid of thoughts? Thank you > > Absolutely. It is the first step. Story of three thieves (rajo, tamas, > sattva guna) > > 8. Does samadhi relieve human suffering? > > It relieves the suffering of the human who experiences Samadhi. It > does not relieve all suffering of all people for all time. Samadhi is > very important milestone in our path, but it is not the end. > > 9. Why is this battle designed to be so difficult to win? Wouldn't > there be more peace in the world if we could conquer this ego battle a > little quicker? > > We will answer that question in the next chapter. See verses 18-19. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Isn't SHE the SWEETEST!!! JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Surya - inspectionconnection108 Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:36 PM [www.ShreeMaa.org] Re: Summary of Class on Chapter 3 of Chandi Path Namaste Srini and all: Swami helped me understand a major point in ourlife on this planet: "We can't fight the ego, we can only pray toMother to fight him on our behalf."She gives us the ego, She gives us confusion, She gives us the meansto remove the ego, and by Her Grace, the ego is removed when the timeis right.Jai Ma Jai Swamivishweshwar , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu wrote:>> Dear Friends,> > A recap of this evening's class on Chapter 3> > Love,> srini> > She nourishes her devotees with wisdom and devotion.> > When Devoid of Clear Understanding dies, we become clear about our> objectives.> > Memories was cut down by the sword of wisdom. Whenever memories arise,> remember the wisdom that we learned.> > When Mother drinks from Her cup of wine, She is drinking the nectar of> devotion.> > The new generals of the army of the great ego that arrive in Chapter 3:> > Disbelief> Anxiety > Blindness> Violent temper> Passion> Irresistible temptation> Foul mouth > > Questions:> 1. In our tradition, does introspection play a part in getting rid of> the ego. Thank you.> > Introspection is a first good step. This will allow us to think about> how we want to organize our lives so that we can sit in meditation. > > 2. What is the symbolism of the ego's manifestation as elephant and as> the man with a sword?> > Elephant stands for ahimsa, man with sword represents violence> > 3. Is it possible to ever gain the state of "witness" permanently? To> live in the world and stay centered regardless of what thoughts come> and go? Or, do thoughts always come up to drive us out of our center?> > If these were to happen, how can we explain creation? It is possible> to stay for some duration and then there is a new creation, a new> thought. When we are acting and interacting, we want to act from the> center from the memory of what it is to be to act from center of unity.> > 4. Is one ever able to get rid of all the asuras dwelling within? In> which event would admitting that "I have conquered this demon' amount> to conceit?> > Yes it will amount to conceit. We don't conquer the demon, She does. > > 5. Don't we require ego and his general to survive in this world? If> we totally annihilate ego and his armies and what remains? Would it> possible to continue working in the world of maya? Or do the Ego and> his generals supposed to remain in subjugation?> > Yes. I cannot act and interact without I. But I can act and interact> with the memory of what it is like to be in state of unity. When we> slay ego we go into Samadhi. When we come out ego is back. > > 6. Is it okay to sometimes let the ego or mind have its way (be nice & > loving to it, give & take - rather than fighting it all the time) and> get what we want later? Forcing the mind to do good things all the> time, sometimes doesn't work. How does one battle this?> > Every now and then we can give the ego a night off (laughter). We > cannot fight ego. All we can do is to pray to Mother to take the ego> away. I am tired of being a human being, I want to become a God again.> > 7. Isn't filling yourself with positive thoughts a step towards being> devoid of thoughts? Thank you> > Absolutely. It is the first step. Story of three thieves (rajo, tamas,> sattva guna)> > 8. Does samadhi relieve human suffering?> > It relieves the suffering of the human who experiences Samadhi. It> does not relieve all suffering of all people for all time. Samadhi is> very important milestone in our path, but it is not the end.> > 9. Why is this battle designed to be so difficult to win? Wouldn't> there be more peace in the world if we could conquer this ego battle a> little quicker? > > We will answer that question in the next chapter. See verses 18-19.> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1410 - Release 5/1/2008 5:30 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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