Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna Bad people may abuse you very much and speak ill of you; but you must bear with them all if you sincerely seek God. - from " The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna " (Abridged Edition): God-Intoxicated State Love, Light and Peace... Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Namaste Kumar,That is a tough quote for the ego to swallow. Why does God require any of Its creations to receive abuse in any form? Is this not a form of violation of the principle of Ahimsa? Is this a truly healthy, compassionate approach for evolving the soul? What did Sri Ramakrishna really mean? Did he mean that one should learn to recognise everyone's ill speech as meaningless babble, since there is a true God beyond all noises emanating from a flippant tongue as harshly intoned language that makes all such offenses completely mute and ineffectual, and as such becomes a catalyst for our growth, like the sand irritating the oyster, we form a pearl of divine love that encompasses all impurities with it's greater beauty into a pure realisation of God in all beings?Love.Eric"C. P. Kumar" <cpkumar wrote: The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna Bad people may abuse you very much and speak ill of you; but you must bear with them all if you sincerely seek God. - from "The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna" (Abridged Edition): God-Intoxicated State Love, Light and Peace... Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Namaste Eric, Sri Ramakrishna meant that one should not be deflected from one's spiritual goal merely because worldly people-even family members-may ridicule or criticize you. When Narendra (later Swami Vivekananda) suffered such criticism for visiting Sri Ramakrishna, he complained to the Master and asked how to handle such a problem. Ramakrishna replied that when an elephant walks through the village all the village dogs run to bark at it. Then he asked Narenda, " Now, how will you think of such critics? " Narendra replied, " I shall think that dogs are barking at me! " Sri Ramakrishna laughed and said, " Oh no my boy, you shouldn't go that far " . Hope this is helpful, Kumari , Eric Cassils <Quanchula1 wrote: > > Namaste Kumar, > > That is a tough quote for the ego to swallow. Why does God require any of Its creations to receive abuse in any form? Is this not a form of violation of the principle of Ahimsa? Is this a truly healthy, compassionate approach for evolving the soul? > > What did Sri Ramakrishna really mean? Did he mean that one should learn to recognise everyone's ill speech as meaningless babble, since there is a true God beyond all noises emanating from a flippant tongue as harshly intoned language that makes all such offenses completely mute and ineffectual, and as such becomes a catalyst for our growth, like the sand irritating the oyster, we form a pearl of divine love that encompasses all impurities with it's greater beauty into a pure realisation of God in all beings? > > Love. > Eric > > " C. P. Kumar " <cpkumar wrote: The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna > > Bad people may abuse you very much and speak ill of > you; but you must bear with them all if you sincerely > seek God. > > - from " The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna " (Abridged > Edition): God-Intoxicated State > > Love, Light and Peace... > Kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Namaste Eric and Kumari, Further relevant extracts from the Gospel - He who is a devotee of God must have an understanding that cannot be shaken under any conditions. He must be like the anvil in a blacksmith's shop. It is constantly being struck by the hammer; still it is unshaken. Bad people may abuse you very much and speak ill of you; but you must bear with them all if you sincerely seek God. Isn't it possible to think of God in the midst of the wicked? Just think of the rishis of ancient times. They used to meditate on God in the forest, surrounded on all sides by tigers, bears, and other ferocious beasts. Wicked men have the nature of tigers and bears. They will pursue you to do you an injury. " One must be careful about these few things. First, an influential man who has much money and many men under his control. He can injure you if he wants; you must be careful while talking to him; perhaps you may have to approve what he says. Second, a dog. When it chases you or barks at you, you must stand still, talk to it gently, and pacify it. Third, a bull. If it runs after you with lowered horns, you must calm it with a gentle Voice. Fourth, a drunkard. If you arouse his anger, he will abuse you, naming fourteen generations of your family. You should say to him; 'Hello uncle! How are you?' Then he will be mightily pleased and sit by you and smoke. " In the presence of a wicked person I become alert. If such a man asks me whether I have a pipe for smoking, I say, 'Yes, I have.' Some people have the nature of a snake: they will bite you without warning. You have to discriminate a great deal in order to avoid the bite; otherwise your passion will be stirred up to such an extent that you will feel like doing injury in return. The companionship of a holy man is greatly needed now and then. It enables one to discriminate between the Real and the unreal. " Regards Kumar , " ty_maa " <dsjames wrote: > > Namaste Eric, > > Sri Ramakrishna meant that one should not be deflected from one's > spiritual goal merely because worldly people-even family members-may > ridicule or criticize you. > > When Narendra (later Swami Vivekananda) suffered such criticism for > visiting Sri Ramakrishna, he complained to the Master and asked how to > handle such a problem. > > Ramakrishna replied that when an elephant walks through the village > all the village dogs run to bark at it. Then he asked Narenda, " Now, > how will you think of such critics? " > > Narendra replied, " I shall think that dogs are barking at me! " > > Sri Ramakrishna laughed and said, " Oh no my boy, you shouldn't go that > far " . > > Hope this is helpful, > > Kumari > > > > , Eric Cassils <Quanchula1@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Kumar, > > > > That is a tough quote for the ego to swallow. Why does God require > any of Its creations to receive abuse in any form? Is this not a form > of violation of the principle of Ahimsa? Is this a truly healthy, > compassionate approach for evolving the soul? > > > > What did Sri Ramakrishna really mean? Did he mean that one should > learn to recognise everyone's ill speech as meaningless babble, since > there is a true God beyond all noises emanating from a flippant tongue > as harshly intoned language that makes all such offenses completely > mute and ineffectual, and as such becomes a catalyst for our growth, > like the sand irritating the oyster, we form a pearl of divine love > that encompasses all impurities with it's greater beauty into a pure > realisation of God in all beings? > > > > Love. > > Eric > > > > " C. P. Kumar " <cpkumar@> wrote: The > Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna > > > > Bad people may abuse you very much and speak ill of > > you; but you must bear with them all if you sincerely > > seek God. > > > > - from " The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna " (Abridged > > Edition): God-Intoxicated State > > > > Love, Light and Peace... > > Kumar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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