Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so much suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only remember to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa Jai Ma Jai Swami vishweshwar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 That mantra is enough! Maa Naman Nivasini JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Surya ---- inspectionconnection108 <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so much > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only remember > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > vishweshwar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, " Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering? " He wants more " Jay Maas " ; lots of Jay Maas! (T. wanted to add: " Vs' for Victory " ....Whatever.) With Love, Kumari , <mahamuni wrote: > > That mantra is enough! > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! > > Surya > ---- inspectionconnection108 <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so much > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only remember > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > vishweshwar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Hi dear ones I bow to all you yes, Vishweshwar, sometimes the kings destroyers of worship attack us and we only can to prayer: Maa, Maa, Maa ... I am very happy because the mother listen me and I am here again Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji!!!! , " inspectionconnection108 " <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so much > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only remember > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > vishweshwar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Dear Ones,God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to experience them.BP Shamlaty_maa <dsjames Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AMRe: [www.ShreeMaa.org] Prayer for help Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, "Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering?" He wants more "Jay Maas"; lots of Jay Maas! (T. wanted to add: "Vs' for Victory".... Whatever. ) With Love, Kumari , <mahamuni@.. .> wrote: > > That mantra is enough! > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > Surya > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108 > wrote: > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so much > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only remember > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > vishweshwar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Dear BP, So the further question must be asked. Who are " we " ? With Love, Kumari , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla wrote: > > Dear Ones, > > God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to experience them. > > BP Shamla > > > > ty_maa <dsjames > > Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AM > Re: [www.ShreeMaa.org] Prayer for help > > > > Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, > > So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, > " Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering? " > > He wants more " Jay Maas " ; lots of Jay Maas! > > (T. wanted to add: " Vs' for Victory " .... Whatever. ) > > With Love, > Kumari > > , <mahamuni@ .> wrote: > > > > That mantra is enough! > > > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > > > Surya > > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108@ > wrote: > > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so much > > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only remember > > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 We are children who has had all the theory and now here, wanting to practice those theory and experience it. Just like a mother who says to a child, " The stove is hot don't touch it. It will burn your hand " The child understands it but would be asking what is hot and burn and will end up touching the stove to experience it. Yes, there will be suffering but only for a moment. It will pass. But to fully understand, all have to be experience and appreciated. Beautiful, isn't it?? > Dear BP, > > So the further question must be asked. > Who are " we " ? > > With Love, > Kumari > > > > , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to > experience them. > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@> > > > > Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AM > > Re: [www.ShreeMaa.org] Prayer for help > > > > > > > > Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, > > > > So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, > > " Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering? " > > > > He wants more " Jay Maas " ; lots of Jay Maas! > > > > (T. wanted to add: " Vs' for Victory " .... Whatever. ) > > > > With Love, > > Kumari > > > > , <mahamuni@ .> wrote: > > > > > > That mantra is enough! > > > > > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > > > > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > > > > > Surya > > > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108@ > wrote: > > > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so > much > > > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only > remember > > > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Dear BP, Yes it is beautiful, the plan is beautiful. Knowledge, though true enough, without experience is knowledge without feeling-without love, without compassion. Incomplete. It is said that the gods have knowledge, but even they must come to Earth for experience, to become complete, to become whole--Purna. (T. wants to add:..and that is the deeper meaning of yoga, i.e. the inseparable union of the atman with the experiencing soul, the jiva. We don't just go back to the Absolute. That would be a journey without a purpose. We Return carrying riches-trailing clouds of glory.) Thank you, With Love, Kumari , " bp_shamla " <bp_shamla wrote: > > We are children who has had all the theory and now here, wanting to > practice those theory and experience it. Just like a mother who says > to a child, " The stove is hot don't touch it. It will burn your hand " > The child understands it but would be asking what is hot and burn and > will end up touching the stove to experience it. Yes, there will be > suffering but only for a moment. It will pass. But to fully > understand, all have to be experience and appreciated. Beautiful, > isn't it?? > > > Dear BP, > > > > So the further question must be asked. > > Who are " we " ? > > > > With Love, > > Kumari > > > > > > > > , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to > > experience them. > > > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@> > > > > > > Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AM > > > Re: [www.ShreeMaa.org] Prayer for help > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, > > > > > > So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, > > > " Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering? " > > > > > > He wants more " Jay Maas " ; lots of Jay Maas! > > > > > > (T. wanted to add: " Vs' for Victory " .... Whatever. ) > > > > > > With Love, > > > Kumari > > > > > > , <mahamuni@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > That mantra is enough! > > > > > > > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > > > > > > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108@ > wrote: > > > > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so > > much > > > > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only > > remember > > > > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Dear Beautiful One,Now what makes u so sure we are not Gods and Goddesses who have come to experience the knowledge. We have forgotten so much because of the experience we are experiencing. Do we not create? Do we not destroy? BP Shamlaty_maa <dsjames Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 4:05:53 AM[www.ShreeMaa.org] Re: Prayer for help Dear BP, Yes it is beautiful, the plan is beautiful. Knowledge, though true enough, without experience is knowledge without feeling-without love, without compassion. Incomplete. It is said that the gods have knowledge, but even they must come to Earth for experience, to become complete, to become whole--Purna. (T. wants to add:..and that is the deeper meaning of yoga, i.e. the inseparable union of the atman with the experiencing soul, the jiva. We don't just go back to the Absolute. That would be a journey without a purpose. We Return carrying riches-trailing clouds of glory.) Thank you, With Love, Kumari , "bp_shamla" <bp_shamla@. ..> wrote: > > We are children who has had all the theory and now here, wanting to > practice those theory and experience it. Just like a mother who says > to a child,"The stove is hot don't touch it. It will burn your hand" > The child understands it but would be asking what is hot and burn and > will end up touching the stove to experience it. Yes, there will be > suffering but only for a moment. It will pass. But to fully > understand, all have to be experience and appreciated. Beautiful, > isn't it?? > > > Dear BP, > > > > So the further question must be asked. > > Who are "we"? > > > > With Love, > > Kumari > > > > > > > > , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to > > experience them. > > > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@> > > > > > > Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AM > > > Re: [www.ShreeMaa. org] Prayer for help > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, > > > > > > So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, > > > "Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering?" > > > > > > He wants more "Jay Maas"; lots of Jay Maas! > > > > > > (T. wanted to add: "Vs' for Victory".... Whatever. ) > > > > > > With Love, > > > Kumari > > > > > > , <mahamuni@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > That mantra is enough! > > > > > > > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > > > > > > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108@ > wrote: > > > > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so > > much > > > > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only > > remember > > > > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Dear BP, So,(remembering the original prayer for help) what is the way out for these forgetful, and now greatly fragmented, gods before their destructive power outweighs the creative? Kumari , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla wrote: > > Dear Beautiful One, > > Now what makes u so sure we are not Gods and Goddesses who have come to experience the knowledge. We have forgotten so much because of the experience we are experiencing. Do we not create? Do we not destroy? > > BP Shamla > > > > ty_maa <dsjames > > Thursday, June 5, 2008 4:05:53 AM > [www.ShreeMaa.org] Re: Prayer for help > > > > Dear BP, > > Yes it is beautiful, the plan is beautiful. > > Knowledge, though true enough, without experience is knowledge without > feeling-without love, without compassion. Incomplete. > > It is said that the gods have knowledge, but even they must come to > Earth for experience, to become complete, to become whole--Purna. > > (T. wants to add:..and that is the deeper meaning of yoga, i.e. > the inseparable union of the atman with the experiencing soul, the jiva. > > We don't just go back to the Absolute. That would be a journey without > a purpose. We Return carrying riches-trailing clouds of glory.) > > Thank you, > > With Love, > Kumari > > , " bp_shamla " <bp_shamla@ ..> wrote: > > > > We are children who has had all the theory and now here, wanting to > > practice those theory and experience it. Just like a mother who says > > to a child, " The stove is hot don't touch it. It will burn your hand " > > The child understands it but would be asking what is hot and burn and > > will end up touching the stove to experience it. Yes, there will be > > suffering but only for a moment. It will pass. But to fully > > understand, all have to be experience and appreciated. Beautiful, > > isn't it?? > > > > > Dear BP, > > > > > > So the further question must be asked. > > > Who are " we " ? > > > > > > With Love, > > > Kumari > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > > > God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to > > > experience them. > > > > > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@> > > > > > > > > Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AM > > > > Re: [www.ShreeMaa. org] Prayer for help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, > > > > > > > > So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, > > > > " Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering? " > > > > > > > > He wants more " Jay Maas " ; lots of Jay Maas! > > > > > > > > (T. wanted to add: " Vs' for Victory " .... Whatever. ) > > > > > > > > With Love, > > > > Kumari > > > > > > > > , <mahamuni@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That mantra is enough! > > > > > > > > > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > > > > > > > > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108@ > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so > > > much > > > > > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only > > > remember > > > > > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Dear lovely one,There is a reason to forget, so that we can remember. Good and bad is just words to express one from the other. Create and destroy is another, to acknowledge the difference. Forget and remember is another language to compare one from the other. Like night and day. We need to destroy in order to create and we need to create in order to destroy. There is no good and there is no bad. What we need is to experience the highest feelings. Thats why we r here. U can only experience the highest feelings or experience, in the worst feelings or experience. You would appreciate the heat of the sun after a cool night or the cool of the night after a hot day. Is there bad or good, as we express it in English language? Its only comparison. What we ask after the experience, what would we prefer?We do not forget as much as we are not aware. We need to be aware, conscious. Do not judge. Both are needed. BP Shamlaty_maa <dsjames Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 1:54:25 PM[www.ShreeMaa.org] Re: Prayer for help Dear BP, So,(remembering the original prayer for help) what is the way out for these forgetful, and now greatly fragmented, gods before their destructive power outweighs the creative? Kumari , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Beautiful One, > > Now what makes u so sure we are not Gods and Goddesses who have come to experience the knowledge. We have forgotten so much because of the experience we are experiencing. Do we not create? Do we not destroy? > > BP Shamla > > > > ty_maa <dsjames > > > Thursday, June 5, 2008 4:05:53 AM > [www.ShreeMaa. org] Re: Prayer for help > > > > Dear BP, > > Yes it is beautiful, the plan is beautiful. > > Knowledge, though true enough, without experience is knowledge without > feeling-without love, without compassion. Incomplete. > > It is said that the gods have knowledge, but even they must come to > Earth for experience, to become complete, to become whole--Purna. > > (T. wants to add:..and that is the deeper meaning of yoga, i.e. > the inseparable union of the atman with the experiencing soul, the jiva. > > We don't just go back to the Absolute. That would be a journey without > a purpose. We Return carrying riches-trailing clouds of glory.) > > Thank you, > > With Love, > Kumari > > , "bp_shamla" <bp_shamla@ ..> wrote: > > > > We are children who has had all the theory and now here, wanting to > > practice those theory and experience it. Just like a mother who says > > to a child,"The stove is hot don't touch it. It will burn your hand" > > The child understands it but would be asking what is hot and burn and > > will end up touching the stove to experience it. Yes, there will be > > suffering but only for a moment. It will pass. But to fully > > understand, all have to be experience and appreciated. Beautiful, > > isn't it?? > > > > > Dear BP, > > > > > > So the further question must be asked. > > > Who are "we"? > > > > > > With Love, > > > Kumari > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > > > God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to > > > experience them. > > > > > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@> > > > > > > > > Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AM > > > > Re: [www.ShreeMaa. org] Prayer for help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, > > > > > > > > So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, > > > > "Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering?" > > > > > > > > He wants more "Jay Maas"; lots of Jay Maas! > > > > > > > > (T. wanted to add: "Vs' for Victory".... Whatever. ) > > > > > > > > With Love, > > > > Kumari > > > > > > > > , <mahamuni@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That mantra is enough! > > > > > > > > > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > > > > > > > > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108@ > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to me, so > > > much > > > > > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only > > > remember > > > > > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Dear B.P. Thank you very much for your very clear understanding on what we are doing on Earth and how we should conduct ourselves in this strange and often difficult world of relative experience. If I may, I will share some of my beliefs about how to deal with the difficulties which Vishweshwar has described so well. I believe that our suffering arises from the fact that we are fragmentary and not whole. If we could live on Earth as the totality of ourselves, life here could be heavenly. Sri Ramakrishna spoke from time to time about our true source. He would say about someone for instance: He is born with an element of Vishnu (or Shiva, or Durga, etc,). He would also say things like: you may talk philosophy as much as you like, but if someone is born with an element of Vishnu, he will always return to his sweet Krishna. Human beings stand halfway between the atom and the universe, between the amoeba and the god. There is a heated debate on whether we have evolved upward from the monkey, or descended downward from Divinity. And there is plenty of evidence each way. Those of us on the spiritual path, however, need to be very clear about our true Source and Destination, and how to get there. Western people, and even other Asian people, honor India as the home of the Gods and Goddesses. There are great mythological events such as the various parts of the Goddess's Body falling all over India, and thereby establishing eternal and living Pitas in those places. This and many other mysteries have made India special. Swami Vivekananda came west around 1900 and enlivened the collective mind with our divine potential as well as methods to realize it. Other teachers have since come to teach and transmit their dharma. Even so, when someone becomes inspired by those teachings, they usually begin saving their money for their first trip to India. Because India is the physical home on Earth of the Gods and Goddesses. Not any more. I believe that over the last two decades Sri Maa has quietly, at the behest of Sri Ramakrishna, brought the great Gods and Goddesses to the West as well and made them a permanent home here, as it has been in India. Her great messenger Swami Satyananda has built a temple to house the Deities, and is sending out from that temple, in ever widening circles, even to the whole world, the methods and means of invoking the Gods and Goddesses in our own Hearts and homes. For those who feel oppressed by the strangeness and suffering of the world we live in, I believe it is now possible, even by very simple and natural means, to invoke that divine Wholeness and Perfection of which we are a part-that Light of which we are sparks-and thereby go through the life experiences which our karma brings, with a fearlessness, love and grace worthy of that Divinity which is our True Source and Home. Swaha! With Love to all, Kumari , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla wrote: > > Dear lovely one, > > There is a reason to forget, so that we can remember. Good and bad is just words to express one from the other. Create and destroy is another, to acknowledge the difference. Forget and remember is another language to compare one from the other. Like night and day. We need to destroy in order to create and we need to create in order to destroy. There is no good and there is no bad. > > What we need is to experience the highest feelings. Thats why we r here. U can only experience the highest feelings or experience, in the worst feelings or experience. You would appreciate the heat of the sun after a cool night or the cool of the night after a hot day. Is there bad or good, as we express it in English language? Its only comparison. What we ask after the experience, what would we prefer? > > We do not forget as much as we are not aware. We need to be aware, conscious. Do not judge. Both are needed. > > BP Shamla > > > > ty_maa <dsjames > > Friday, June 6, 2008 1:54:25 PM > [www.ShreeMaa.org] Re: Prayer for help > > > > Dear BP, > > So,(remembering the original prayer for help) what is the way out for > these forgetful, and now greatly fragmented, gods before their > destructive power outweighs the creative? > > Kumari > > , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Beautiful One, > > > > Now what makes u so sure we are not Gods and Goddesses who have come > to experience the knowledge. We have forgotten so much because of the > experience we are experiencing. Do we not create? Do we not destroy? > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@ > > > > > Thursday, June 5, 2008 4:05:53 AM > > [www.ShreeMaa. org] Re: Prayer for help > > > > > > > > Dear BP, > > > > Yes it is beautiful, the plan is beautiful. > > > > Knowledge, though true enough, without experience is knowledge without > > feeling-without love, without compassion. Incomplete. > > > > It is said that the gods have knowledge, but even they must come to > > Earth for experience, to become complete, to become whole--Purna. > > > > (T. wants to add:..and that is the deeper meaning of yoga, i.e. > > the inseparable union of the atman with the experiencing soul, the > jiva. > > > > We don't just go back to the Absolute. That would be a journey without > > a purpose. We Return carrying riches-trailing clouds of glory.) > > > > Thank you, > > > > With Love, > > Kumari > > > > , " bp_shamla " <bp_shamla@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > We are children who has had all the theory and now here, wanting to > > > practice those theory and experience it. Just like a mother who says > > > to a child, " The stove is hot don't touch it. It will burn your hand " > > > The child understands it but would be asking what is hot and burn and > > > will end up touching the stove to experience it. Yes, there will be > > > suffering but only for a moment. It will pass. But to fully > > > understand, all have to be experience and appreciated. Beautiful, > > > isn't it?? > > > > > > > Dear BP, > > > > > > > > So the further question must be asked. > > > > Who are " we " ? > > > > > > > > With Love, > > > > Kumari > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shamala Pillai > <bp_shamla@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > > > > > God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to > > > > experience them. > > > > > > > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AM > > > > > Re: [www.ShreeMaa. org] Prayer for help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, > > > > > > > > > > So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, > > > > > " Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering? " > > > > > > > > > > He wants more " Jay Maas " ; lots of Jay Maas! > > > > > > > > > > (T. wanted to add: " Vs' for Victory " .... Whatever. ) > > > > > > > > > > With Love, > > > > > Kumari > > > > > > > > > > , <mahamuni@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > That mantra is enough! > > > > > > > > > > > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > > > > > > > > > > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to > me, so > > > > much > > > > > > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only > > > > remember > > > > > > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Dear Sweet One,Thats is truly beautiful. Love BP Shamlaty_maa <dsjames Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:11:27 AM[www.ShreeMaa.org] Re: Prayer for help Dear B.P. Thank you very much for your very clear understanding on what we are doing on Earth and how we should conduct ourselves in this strange and often difficult world of relative experience. If I may, I will share some of my beliefs about how to deal with the difficulties which Vishweshwar has described so well. I believe that our suffering arises from the fact that we are fragmentary and not whole. If we could live on Earth as the totality of ourselves, life here could be heavenly. Sri Ramakrishna spoke from time to time about our true source. He would say about someone for instance: He is born with an element of Vishnu (or Shiva, or Durga, etc,). He would also say things like: you may talk philosophy as much as you like, but if someone is born with an element of Vishnu, he will always return to his sweet Krishna. Human beings stand halfway between the atom and the universe, between the amoeba and the god. There is a heated debate on whether we have evolved upward from the monkey, or descended downward from Divinity. And there is plenty of evidence each way. Those of us on the spiritual path, however, need to be very clear about our true Source and Destination, and how to get there. Western people, and even other Asian people, honor India as the home of the Gods and Goddesses. There are great mythological events such as the various parts of the Goddess's Body falling all over India, and thereby establishing eternal and living Pitas in those places. This and many other mysteries have made India special. Swami Vivekananda came west around 1900 and enlivened the collective mind with our divine potential as well as methods to realize it. Other teachers have since come to teach and transmit their dharma. Even so, when someone becomes inspired by those teachings, they usually begin saving their money for their first trip to India. Because India is the physical home on Earth of the Gods and Goddesses. Not any more. I believe that over the last two decades Sri Maa has quietly, at the behest of Sri Ramakrishna, brought the great Gods and Goddesses to the West as well and made them a permanent home here, as it has been in India. Her great messenger Swami Satyananda has built a temple to house the Deities, and is sending out from that temple, in ever widening circles, even to the whole world, the methods and means of invoking the Gods and Goddesses in our own Hearts and homes. For those who feel oppressed by the strangeness and suffering of the world we live in, I believe it is now possible, even by very simple and natural means, to invoke that divine Wholeness and Perfection of which we are a part-that Light of which we are sparks-and thereby go through the life experiences which our karma brings, with a fearlessness, love and grace worthy of that Divinity which is our True Source and Home. Swaha! With Love to all, Kumari , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@. ..> wrote: > > Dear lovely one, > > There is a reason to forget, so that we can remember. Good and bad is just words to express one from the other. Create and destroy is another, to acknowledge the difference. Forget and remember is another language to compare one from the other. Like night and day. We need to destroy in order to create and we need to create in order to destroy. There is no good and there is no bad. > > What we need is to experience the highest feelings. Thats why we r here. U can only experience the highest feelings or experience, in the worst feelings or experience. You would appreciate the heat of the sun after a cool night or the cool of the night after a hot day. Is there bad or good, as we express it in English language? Its only comparison. What we ask after the experience, what would we prefer? > > We do not forget as much as we are not aware. We need to be aware, conscious. Do not judge. Both are needed. > > BP Shamla > > > > ty_maa <dsjames > > > Friday, June 6, 2008 1:54:25 PM > [www.ShreeMaa. org] Re: Prayer for help > > > > Dear BP, > > So,(remembering the original prayer for help) what is the way out for > these forgetful, and now greatly fragmented, gods before their > destructive power outweighs the creative? > > Kumari > > , Shamala Pillai <bp_shamla@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Beautiful One, > > > > Now what makes u so sure we are not Gods and Goddesses who have come > to experience the knowledge. We have forgotten so much because of the > experience we are experiencing. Do we not create? Do we not destroy? > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@ > > > > > Thursday, June 5, 2008 4:05:53 AM > > [www.ShreeMaa. org] Re: Prayer for help > > > > > > > > Dear BP, > > > > Yes it is beautiful, the plan is beautiful. > > > > Knowledge, though true enough, without experience is knowledge without > > feeling-without love, without compassion. Incomplete. > > > > It is said that the gods have knowledge, but even they must come to > > Earth for experience, to become complete, to become whole--Purna. > > > > (T. wants to add:..and that is the deeper meaning of yoga, i.e. > > the inseparable union of the atman with the experiencing soul, the > jiva. > > > > We don't just go back to the Absolute. That would be a journey without > > a purpose. We Return carrying riches-trailing clouds of glory.) > > > > Thank you, > > > > With Love, > > Kumari > > > > , "bp_shamla" <bp_shamla@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > We are children who has had all the theory and now here, wanting to > > > practice those theory and experience it. Just like a mother who says > > > to a child,"The stove is hot don't touch it. It will burn your hand" > > > The child understands it but would be asking what is hot and burn and > > > will end up touching the stove to experience it. Yes, there will be > > > suffering but only for a moment. It will pass. But to fully > > > understand, all have to be experience and appreciated. Beautiful, > > > isn't it?? > > > > > > > Dear BP, > > > > > > > > So the further question must be asked. > > > > Who are "we"? > > > > > > > > With Love, > > > > Kumari > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shamala Pillai > <bp_shamla@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > > > > > God allows so much oppression and suffering because we want to > > > > experience them. > > > > > > > > > > BP Shamla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ty_maa <dsjames@> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:59:41 AM > > > > > Re: [www.ShreeMaa. org] Prayer for help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, Kumar, Vish, and Mahamuni, > > > > > > > > > > So, put these together and we have the answer to the old question, > > > > > "Why does God allow so much oppression and suffering?" > > > > > > > > > > He wants more "Jay Maas"; lots of Jay Maas! > > > > > > > > > > (T. wanted to add: "Vs' for Victory".... Whatever. ) > > > > > > > > > > With Love, > > > > > Kumari > > > > > > > > > > , <mahamuni@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > That mantra is enough! > > > > > > > > > > > > Maa Naman Nivasini > > > > > > > > > > > > JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA! !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > ---- inspectionconnectio n108 <inspectionconnecti on108@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste all family: sometimes the world is so foreign to > me, so > > > > much > > > > > > > suffering and sorrow. Of all the mantras I know, I can only > > > > remember > > > > > > > to say one of them: Maa, Maa, Maa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Ma Jai Swami > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vishweshwar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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