Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dearest Surya, Funny you should ask.....as i was chanting the Devi Atharvashirsham this evening, i was reading Swamiji's translation/explanation and i came across verse 14. This is the one where Swamiji shows how the Lalita Trishati mantra -- ka e i la hrim ha sa ka ha la hrim sa ka la hrim is embedded in the verse and the translation ends with " This is the root of the knowledge of the Divine Mother " . Sri Vidya is the ultimate knowledge of Divine Mother, the 3 ways of seeing Maya : * Maya as illusion * Maya as the universal body of Nature * Maya as One Consciousness in harmony with Her Self or 3 ways of seeing God: * how God sees Himself * how God sees the world and the world sees God * how the world sees the world As for the Sri Chakra Yantra, the Sotram enumerates all the Siva triangles and the Shakti triangles and the bindu in the middle and how they " stack up " . When you look at a Sri Chakra is is possible to see this...the bindu is on the top of the pyramid. So in reciting this stotram, the mantra, the embedded mantra in the Atharvashirsham and smeditating on the meanings, i feel we are really putting some concentrated effort in calling Her. does this help? love,gauri , Surya <mahamuni wrote: > > Namaste Gauri Ji Maharani, > > Can you explain from your own understanding just how the Lalitha Trishati Stotram " is a definition of the Sri Vidya " and " an > explanation of the Sri Chakra Yantra " . > > I've been delving much deeper into these practices and would love to hear more of the " cream " you've digested from Swamiji on the subject. > > JAI AMMA! > > Surya > > ---- gauri_108 <gauri_108 wrote: > > Namaste Dear Karen, > > > > One part of our " bag of tools " (as Swamiji defines it) is the Lalita > > Trishati Stotram " which is a definition of the Sri Vidya, an > > explanation of the Sri Chakra Yantra, and exposition of three hundred > > names of the Divine Mother, indicative of three hundred divine > > attributes which seekers can strive to emulate " . Also, in the Chandi, > > specifically in the Devi Atharvashirsham (one of my personal > > favorites) in verse 15, Sri Vidya is also mentioned. it is the > > explanation of " ka e i la hrim, ha sa ka ha la hrim, sa ka la hrim " > > mantra. This is a powerful mantra! > > > > In essence it is the worship of Divine Mother in these very powerful > > ways. > > > > In the Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs book Swamiji says that 108 > > repetitions of the Devi Atharvashirsham (Highest meaning of the > > Goddess) is an incredible sadhana -- What a fabulous way to celebrate > > the coming Navaratri... > > anybody up for the challenge? > > > > love,gauri > > > > , " Karen " <Koros7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gauri and Family, > > > > > > Could you please explain Sri Vidya? Thank you. love, karen > > > > > > Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! > > > > > > , " gauri_108 " <gauri_108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devi et al, > > > > > > > > there are actually 4 times of prayer -- As Sri Vidya worshippers > > > > (that's us!) we observe all of them: > > > > 1) between night and morning -- dawn > > > > 2) between morning and afternoon -- noon > > > > 3) between day and night -- dusk > > > > 4) middle of the night > > > > > > > > Any practice you do at the times of prayer are great -- as Swamiji > > > > says, it is most important to do something! > > > > > > > > hope this helps, > > > > gauri > > > > > > > > , " Devi " student61754@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > > Have heard this mentioned many times and read that certain texts > > > should > > > > > be used at these times of prayer. > > > > > Assume it is morning(4-6), noon evening(4-6) & midnight. Is it 3 or > > > 4? > > > > > Does the word pray mean meditation, puja, or (Dear God will you help > > > me > > > > > with this) prayer or all of these? > > > > > Cosmic puja p. 285 in Saraswati puja states:...three times of prayer > > > by > > > > > means of this hymn... > > > > > Does this mean we take it out of puja and recite it alone? Is > > > sankalpa > > > > > ness.? > > > > > Blessings to all! > > > > > Thank you for your help in understanding this. > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Aum Namah Shivaya Gauri Ji, Thanks for the answer and for directing me to read Swamiji's wonderful passage in Verse 14 of Sri Devyatharvashisam. My question is specifically directed at how exactly the Sri Lalitha Trishati Stotram describes the Sri Yantra and its form of worship. I just don't get that except for the obvious fact of it spelling out the Panchadashakshari Mantra in code, which is one of the main mantras used in worship of the Sri Yantra being part of the larger Sri Vidya. Although some traditions of Sri Vidya may have the opinion that the 15 syllable is the same or equal to the 16 syllable Shodashakshari/Shodasi Mantra, most would acknowledge (including Swamiji if I recall) that the 16 takes you a step further. In some traditions it goes even beyond that. In some you actually are required to worship Sri Bala Tripurasundari first with HER Mantra spelled out in either its 6 or 9 syllable form. I don't think at that point the Sri Vidya Upasaka in those traditions is worshipping the Sri Yantra, but I don't know. I believe, if I remember correctly that Bala Tripurasundari has Her own unique Yantra. But getting back to the initial question, I chant all these regularly and don't see exactly yet how specifically the Sri Lalitha Trishati Stotram describes the Sri Chakra/Yantra and its lay out of intersecting triangles at all. Its also not the feeling or visualization I get when I chant the LTS. I am familiar with how the Sri Khadgamala Stotram/Namavali worships each of the deities in each part of the Sri Chakra, but I don't yet see how the LTS does. I do see how it praises much more subtle/ethereal qualities of the Goddess as opposed the more head to toe concretely physical way SHE is described in the Sri Lalitha Sahasranam Stotram (to oversimplify things a bit). I also don't yet have the specific understanding of how the names in the LTS, or the specific rendition/translation of the surrounding part of Sri Lalitopakhyana that Swamiji/Shree Maa teach, describe how: how Goddess sees HERSELF how Goddess sees the world and the world sees Goddess how the world sees the world I might just need to study it more and I am sure there are many meanings for each of the names in the LTS, just as Bhaskararaya describes them for the LS. It seems in most more " advanced " or " complete " Sri Chakra/Yantra Pujas I have seen, which are usually referred to as Navavarana Puja--worship of the 9 levels of the Sri Chakra (which are much easier to see when it is in one of its 3 dimensional " Meru " forms), worship the parts through the Sri Khadgamala Namavali and later towards the end of the puja have a place where either Lalitha's 1000, 300 or 108 are chanted as per the time/desire of the pujari. So, can you or any other knowledgeable member elaborate for me further so I can obtain a deeper understanding of these things? Sorry for the long exposition, but I just wanted to be clear and specific. JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Surya ---- gauri_108 <gauri_108 wrote: > Dearest Surya, > > Funny you should ask.....as i was chanting the Devi Atharvashirsham > this evening, i was reading Swamiji's translation/explanation and i > came across verse 14. This is the one where Swamiji shows how the > Lalita Trishati mantra -- > ka e i la hrim > ha sa ka ha la hrim > sa ka la hrim > > is embedded in the verse and the translation ends with " This is the > root of the knowledge of the Divine Mother " . > > Sri Vidya is the ultimate knowledge of Divine Mother, the 3 ways of > seeing Maya : > * Maya as illusion > * Maya as the universal body of Nature > * Maya as One Consciousness in harmony with Her Self > or 3 ways of seeing God: > * how God sees Himself > * how God sees the world and the world sees God > * how the world sees the world > > As for the Sri Chakra Yantra, the Sotram enumerates all the Siva > triangles and the Shakti triangles and the bindu in the middle and how > they " stack up " . When you look at a Sri Chakra is is possible to see > this...the bindu is on the top of the pyramid. > > So in reciting this stotram, the mantra, the embedded mantra in the > Atharvashirsham and smeditating on the meanings, i feel we are really > putting some concentrated effort in calling Her. > > does this help? > love,gauri > > , Surya <mahamuni wrote: > > > > Namaste Gauri Ji Maharani, > > > > Can you explain from your own understanding just how the Lalitha > Trishati Stotram " is a definition of the Sri Vidya " and " an > > explanation of the Sri Chakra Yantra " . > > > > I've been delving much deeper into these practices and would love to > hear more of the " cream " you've digested from Swamiji on the subject. > > > > JAI AMMA! > > > > Surya > > > > ---- gauri_108 <gauri_108 wrote: > > > Namaste Dear Karen, > > > > > > One part of our " bag of tools " (as Swamiji defines it) is the Lalita > > > Trishati Stotram " which is a definition of the Sri Vidya, an > > > explanation of the Sri Chakra Yantra, and exposition of three hundred > > > names of the Divine Mother, indicative of three hundred divine > > > attributes which seekers can strive to emulate " . Also, in the Chandi, > > > specifically in the Devi Atharvashirsham (one of my personal > > > favorites) in verse 15, Sri Vidya is also mentioned. it is the > > > explanation of " ka e i la hrim, ha sa ka ha la hrim, sa ka la hrim " > > > mantra. This is a powerful mantra! > > > > > > In essence it is the worship of Divine Mother in these very powerful > > > ways. > > > > > > In the Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs book Swamiji says that 108 > > > repetitions of the Devi Atharvashirsham (Highest meaning of the > > > Goddess) is an incredible sadhana -- What a fabulous way to celebrate > > > the coming Navaratri... > > > anybody up for the challenge? > > > > > > love,gauri > > > > > > , " Karen " <Koros7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gauri and Family, > > > > > > > > Could you please explain Sri Vidya? Thank you. love, karen > > > > > > > > Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! > > > > > > > > , " gauri_108 " <gauri_108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi et al, > > > > > > > > > > there are actually 4 times of prayer -- As Sri Vidya worshippers > > > > > (that's us!) we observe all of them: > > > > > 1) between night and morning -- dawn > > > > > 2) between morning and afternoon -- noon > > > > > 3) between day and night -- dusk > > > > > 4) middle of the night > > > > > > > > > > Any practice you do at the times of prayer are great -- as Swamiji > > > > > says, it is most important to do something! > > > > > > > > > > hope this helps, > > > > > gauri > > > > > > > > > > , " Devi " student61754@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > > > Have heard this mentioned many times and read that certain texts > > > > should > > > > > > be used at these times of prayer. > > > > > > Assume it is morning(4-6), noon evening(4-6) & midnight. Is > it 3 or > > > > 4? > > > > > > Does the word pray mean meditation, puja, or (Dear God will > you help > > > > me > > > > > > with this) prayer or all of these? > > > > > > Cosmic puja p. 285 in Saraswati puja states:...three times > of prayer > > > > by > > > > > > means of this hymn... > > > > > > Does this mean we take it out of puja and recite it alone? Is > > > > sankalpa > > > > > > ness.? > > > > > > Blessings to all! > > > > > > Thank you for your help in understanding this. > > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Namaste Gauri,Love the idea of chanting the Devi Atharvashrisham.Did it 12 times after your post. WonderfulAssume you are starting it on 29th? Jai Maa,Devigauri_108 <gauri_108 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:13:43 AM[www.ShreeMaa.org] To Karen Re: Sri Vidya Dearest Surya, Funny you should ask.....as i was chanting the Devi Atharvashirsham this evening, i was reading Swamiji's translation/ explanation and i came across verse 14. This is the one where Swamiji shows how the Lalita Trishati mantra -- ka e i la hrim ha sa ka ha la hrim sa ka la hrim is embedded in the verse and the translation ends with "This is the root of the knowledge of the Divine Mother". Sri Vidya is the ultimate knowledge of Divine Mother, the 3 ways of seeing Maya : * Maya as illusion * Maya as the universal body of Nature * Maya as One Consciousness in harmony with Her Self or 3 ways of seeing God: * how God sees Himself * how God sees the world and the world sees God * how the world sees the world As for the Sri Chakra Yantra, the Sotram enumerates all the Siva triangles and the Shakti triangles and the bindu in the middle and how they "stack up". When you look at a Sri Chakra is is possible to see this...the bindu is on the top of the pyramid. So in reciting this stotram, the mantra, the embedded mantra in the Atharvashirsham and smeditating on the meanings, i feel we are really putting some concentrated effort in calling Her. does this help? love,gauri , Surya <mahamuni@.. .> wrote: > > Namaste Gauri Ji Maharani, > > Can you explain from your own understanding just how the Lalitha Trishati Stotram "is a definition of the Sri Vidya" and "an > explanation of the Sri Chakra Yantra". > > I've been delving much deeper into these practices and would love to hear more of the "cream" you've digested from Swamiji on the subject. > > JAI AMMA! > > Surya > > ---- gauri_108 <gauri_108@. ..> wrote: > > Namaste Dear Karen, > > > > One part of our "bag of tools" (as Swamiji defines it) is the Lalita > > Trishati Stotram "which is a definition of the Sri Vidya, an > > explanation of the Sri Chakra Yantra, and exposition of three hundred > > names of the Divine Mother, indicative of three hundred divine > > attributes which seekers can strive to emulate". Also, in the Chandi, > > specifically in the Devi Atharvashirsham (one of my personal > > favorites) in verse 15, Sri Vidya is also mentioned. it is the > > explanation of "ka e i la hrim, ha sa ka ha la hrim, sa ka la hrim" > > mantra. This is a powerful mantra! > > > > In essence it is the worship of Divine Mother in these very powerful > > ways. > > > > In the Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs book Swamiji says that 108 > > repetitions of the Devi Atharvashirsham (Highest meaning of the > > Goddess) is an incredible sadhana -- What a fabulous way to celebrate > > the coming Navaratri... > > anybody up for the challenge? > > > > love,gauri > > > > , "Karen" <Koros7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gauri and Family, > > > > > > Could you please explain Sri Vidya? Thank you. love, karen > > > > > > Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! > > > > > > , "gauri_108" <gauri_108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devi et al, > > > > > > > > there are actually 4 times of prayer -- As Sri Vidya worshippers > > > > (that's us!) we observe all of them: > > > > 1) between night and morning -- dawn > > > > 2) between morning and afternoon -- noon > > > > 3) between day and night -- dusk > > > > 4) middle of the night > > > > > > > > Any practice you do at the times of prayer are great -- as Swamiji > > > > says, it is most important to do something! > > > > > > > > hope this helps, > > > > gauri > > > > > > > > , "Devi" student61754@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > > Have heard this mentioned many times and read that certain texts > > > should > > > > > be used at these times of prayer. > > > > > Assume it is morning(4-6) , noon evening(4-6) & midnight. Is it 3 or > > > 4? > > > > > Does the word pray mean meditation, puja, or (Dear God will you help > > > me > > > > > with this) prayer or all of these? > > > > > Cosmic puja p. 285 in Saraswati puja states:...three times of prayer > > > by > > > > > means of this hymn... > > > > > Does this mean we take it out of puja and recite it alone? Is > > > sankalpa > > > > > ness.? > > > > > Blessings to all! > > > > > Thank you for your help in understanding this. > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 How do the 3 ways of knowing and 3 ways God sees relate to the Shree Chakra? They would appear to represent 6 of 9 triangles, unless the Shree Yantra can be constructed from only 6 triangles? Is that the case? Or if not, what are the 3 other attributes? What does it mean to embody the Sri Chakra, how does the Aum vag, 3 syllables + the visarga, generate 9 isoceles triangles?Jai Maa!--- On Tue, 9/16/08, devi <student61754 wrote:devi <student61754Re: [www.ShreeMaa.org] To Karen Re: Sri Vidya Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:30 PM Namaste Gauri,Love the idea of chanting the Devi Atharvashrisham.Did it 12 times after your post. WonderfulAssume you are starting it on 29th? Jai Maa,Devigauri_108 <gauri_108 >Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:13:43 AM[www.ShreeMaa. org] To Karen Re: Sri Vidya Dearest Surya, Funny you should ask.....as i was chanting the Devi Atharvashirsham this evening, i was reading Swamiji's translation/ explanation and i came across verse 14. This is the one where Swamiji shows how the Lalita Trishati mantra -- ka e i la hrim ha sa ka ha la hrim sa ka la hrim is embedded in the verse and the translation ends with "This is the root of the knowledge of the Divine Mother". Sri Vidya is the ultimate knowledge of Divine Mother, the 3 ways of seeing Maya : * Maya as illusion * Maya as the universal body of Nature * Maya as One Consciousness in harmony with Her Self or 3 ways of seeing God: * how God sees Himself * how God sees the world and the world sees God * how the world sees the world As for the Sri Chakra Yantra, the Sotram enumerates all the Siva triangles and the Shakti triangles and the bindu in the middle and how they "stack up". When you look at a Sri Chakra is is possible to see this...the bindu is on the top of the pyramid. So in reciting this stotram, the mantra, the embedded mantra in the Atharvashirsham and smeditating on the meanings, i feel we are really putting some concentrated effort in calling Her. does this help? love,gauri , Surya <mahamuni@.. .> wrote: > > Namaste Gauri Ji Maharani, > > Can you explain from your own understanding just how the Lalitha Trishati Stotram "is a definition of the Sri Vidya" and "an > explanation of the Sri Chakra Yantra". > > I've been delving much deeper into these practices and would love to hear more of the "cream" you've digested from Swamiji on the subject. > > JAI AMMA! > > Surya > > ---- gauri_108 <gauri_108@. ..> wrote: > > Namaste Dear Karen, > > > > One part of our "bag of tools" (as Swamiji defines it) is the Lalita > > Trishati Stotram "which is a definition of the Sri Vidya, an > > explanation of the Sri Chakra Yantra, and exposition of three hundred > > names of the Divine Mother, indicative of three hundred divine > > attributes which seekers can strive to emulate". Also, in the Chandi, > > specifically in the Devi Atharvashirsham (one of my personal > > favorites) in verse 15, Sri Vidya is also mentioned. it is the > > explanation of "ka e i la hrim, ha sa ka ha la hrim, sa ka la hrim" > > mantra. This is a powerful mantra! > > > > In essence it is the worship of Divine Mother in these very powerful > > ways. > > > > In the Pronunciation and the Chandi Samputs book Swamiji says that 108 > > repetitions of the Devi Atharvashirsham (Highest meaning of the > > Goddess) is an incredible sadhana -- What a fabulous way to celebrate > > the coming Navaratri... > > anybody up for the challenge? > > > > love,gauri > > > > , "Karen" <Koros7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gauri and Family, > > > > > > Could you please explain Sri Vidya? Thank you. love, karen > > > > > > Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! > > > > > > , "gauri_108" <gauri_108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devi et al, > > > > > > > > there are actually 4 times of prayer -- As Sri Vidya worshippers > > > > (that's us!) we observe all of them: > > > > 1) between night and morning -- dawn > > > > 2) between morning and afternoon -- noon > > > > 3) between day and night -- dusk > > > > 4) middle of the night > > > > > > > > Any practice you do at the times of prayer are great -- as Swamiji > > > > says, it is most important to do something! > > > > > > > > hope this helps, > > > > gauri > > > > > > > > , "Devi" student61754@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > > Have heard this mentioned many times and read that certain texts > > > should > > > > > be used at these times of prayer. > > > > > Assume it is morning(4-6) , noon evening(4-6) & midnight. Is it 3 or > > > 4? > > > > > Does the word pray mean meditation, puja, or (Dear God will you help > > > me > > > > > with this) prayer or all of these? > > > > > Cosmic puja p. 285 in Saraswati puja states:...three times of prayer > > > by > > > > > means of this hymn... > > > > > Does this mean we take it out of puja and recite it alone? Is > > > sankalpa > > > > > ness.? > > > > > Blessings to all! > > > > > Thank you for your help in understanding this. > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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