Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Dear Kumari and all ~ interesting that you should mention having read through the entire Chandi in English. I have always read the transliterated Sanskrit first, then the English. Reading Chapter 4, I suddenly realized how much this was limiting me. It was breaking up the continuity, and so I wasn't able to gain a real comprehension of the whole. So I went back and read all of Verse 4 in English. It immediately made a very different impression to me, in a sense, putting me right there, in the aftermath of the battle and once again realizing the incredible compassion of the Divine Mother, for even the negative thoughts were allowed, through her grace, to ascend to heaven. This has struck me before, but more on an intellectual level. So I believe that this time 'round, I will take a page from your book and read each chapter entirely in Englis first. (The difficulty has been that I am so in love with Sanskrit and love the way it looks and even my poor attempts to pronounce the transliterations. Yes, it is a privelege. Thank you for reminding me of that. Jai Maa !!!! Jai Swamiji !!!! Kumari ki jai ! ~ Linda Kumari wrote: I am listening to the discussion. I will not share much. This is my first time through the Chandi in Sanskrit with all proper mantras and prayers to be included. I am somewhat in awe and feel very much a beg inner even though I have some familiarity with the text through chanting of some of the prayers from the Chandi in Sanskrit and having read it in it's entirety for some years in English. But mostly I had no guide and did not think at the time to ask anyone. I felt inspired by Divine Mother's courage and loving protection and that seemed to be enough. Now I know that is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak and study and chanting will repay me richly. To participate in satsang even though I cannot be with other devotees in person is indeed a priviledge. One which I prize highly. And what can I say about Swamiji's and Shree Ma's efforts to make all these scriptures availiable to everyone who seeks. I am blessed to live in these times. So I will start with Chapter 1 and slowly go through it, trying to grasp the meaning as well as I can. May Ma bless my efforts. Tue, 23 Sep 2008 3:44 am [www.ShreeMaa.org] Digest Number 2726 There are 12 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Walking the Path - 19 Sep maadevi55 2a. spiritual calendar srini_sadhu 2b. Re: spiritual calendar Alphanso DSouza 3a. Re: Study of Chandi Path, Chapter 4, verses 1-7 srini_sadhu 3b. Re: Study of Chandi Path, Chapter 4, verses 1-7 srini_sadhu 4. Walking the Path - 20 Sep maadevi55 5a. To Linda,comprehensibility of the Goddess and some questions for the inspectionconnection108 6a. Re: to Linda and all - Chandi Path Chapter 4 mjfisher2005 7a. Re: to Ragan and all, from Swami-Q + A mjfisher2005 7b. Kumari and all: fire ceremony inspectionconnection108 8. Walking the Path - 21 Sep. maadevi55 9. Walking the Path - 22 Sep. maadevi55 Messages ______________________ 1. Walking the Path - 19 Sep Posted by: "maadevi55" maadevi55 maadevi55 Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:49 am ((PDT)) In order to go back to the origin, we must come and go by the same path. Guru and the Goddess (Kasyapa Sutra 12) - Published by the Devi Mandir Om sanatani mayavidmahe Jñana praka´sayai dhimahe Tanno ´sri mam pracodayat Messages in this topic (1) __ ____________________ ______________________ 2a. spiritual calendar Posted by: "srini_sadhu" srini_sadhu srini_sadhu Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:49 am ((PDT)) Namaste! Please visit http://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/spiritual_calendar_september_21_27 for the spiritual calendar for the upcoming week. Love srini Messages in this topic (4) ______________________ 2b. Re: spiritual calendar Posted by: "Alphanso DSouza" alphanso108 alphansojohn Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT)) Thank you Srini for the link. Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om!Peace and blessings to all Beings!Jai Durga Ma! Alphanso : srini_sadhu: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:15:02 +0000[www.ShreeMaa.org] spiritual calendar Namaste!Please visithttp://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/spiritual_calendar_september_21_27for=2 0 the spiritual calendar for the upcoming week.Lovesrini _______________ Messages in this topic (4) ______________________ ______________________ 3a. Re: Study of Chandi Path, Chapter 4, verses 1-7 Posted by: "srini_sadhu" srini_sadhu srini_sadhu Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) Dear Kumari, Thank you for your post! Maa and Swamiji emphasize this teaching a lot. And they exemplify this teaching in many ways. Complete your karma even if there is a lot of difficulty. This has been my main teaching. When I lived in the world, I would let things slide. But in the ashram the emphasis is on completing all your tasks for the day. Love srini , "mjfisher2005" <mjfisher2005 wrote: > > The thing that strikes me about this story is that we must follow our > dharma even though there may be pain associated with it, because in > not completing that duty, there is even worse pain on all levels and > the joy of doing it is so much greater than the pain. > > Kumari > > @gro ups.com, "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste! > > > > Om Sam Saraswatyai Namaha! > > > > I am happy to begin our discussion of Chapter 4 of Chandi Path. > > > > At the end of Chapter 3, Divine Mother kills the Ego and Gods and > > Goddesses (that's us) are filled with delight. > > > > And so they sing in praise of Divine Mother. > > > > She is the energy of all and She is everywhere. > > > > She is the Goddess of Wealth in the homes of virtuous souls and > misery > > of those perform evil. > > > > > > Once after Swamiji chanted the Chandi he was telling us that he felt > > an excruciating pain running all the way from His feet to the top of > > His head. And do you know what His response to the pain was? > > > > He said, "I thanked the Goddess for giving Her darshan in the form > of > > the shooting pain". > > > > And of course, he completed His recitation without getting up. > > > > This really helped me and sometimes when I feel pain I remind myself > > of this story and it helps me sit and complete the recitation. > > > > How can we recognize Her in all the different ways She comes to us? > > How can we implement this lesson from Swamiji in our lives? > > > > I look forward to hearing your thoughts! > > > > respectfully, > > Srini > > > Messages in this topic (5) ______________________ 3b. Re: Study of Chandi Path, Chapter 4, verses 1-7 Posted by: "srini_sadhu" srini_sadhu srini_sadhu Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) Dear Henny, It is true that She is infinite. But no one can grasp the infinite. So we all create a for that is most appealing to us and strive to offer our devotion to that form. The saints say that the form can take us to the doorstep of Akhanda Satchidananda. The form, the murti will give you everything you need. The life of Sri Ramakrishna, for me, is an example of how His devotion to the murti of Kali gave him everything. Even today during the Chandi I was moving (for some reason) and so He asked me to focus on the scripture (instead of moving). After the Homa, Swamiji emphasized to me the every thought other than Her means that Self-Conceit gets a portion of the sacrifice. The goal is to focus on God to exclusion of other thoughts. Thanks for sharing! Love Srini , "jaisanatanimaa" <jaisanatanimaa wrote: > >=2 0Namaste Srini and all, > > reading these verses, what strikes me most is the emphasis on the > indescribability and the incomprehensibility of Divine Mother; She > cannot be 'grasped' or comprehended by the mind. And yet, this is > what my mind tries to do: to fashion a comfortable and safe idea out > of Divine Mother which will accomodate my idea of goodness and > divinity, and which in no way forms a threat to the ego. Not really. > So, that mind thinks: 'surely Mother would not want me to suffer > pain, I think She won't mind if I move my leg a little'. As long as > 'I' am confortable, I don't mind reciting the verses describing the > demise of the Great Ego:) > > To learn to accept that She will come as She will come, whether 'I' > like it or not, is not so easy. To acknowledge that Her ways are > other than 'my' ways, and that 'I' am supported by Her and not the > other way around,is something to be remembered constantly. In vs.5 it > is said that She is 'faith to the truthful'; to me, this means that > if we are honest enough to admit that we 'don't know Her path very > well', She will fill our hearts with trust in Her in whatever guise > She may choose, > > with love, > Henny > > , "srini_sadhu" lt;srini_sadhu@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste! > > > > Om Sam Saraswatyai Namaha! > > > > I am happy to begin our discussion of Chapter 4 of Chandi Path. > > > > At the end of Chapter 3, Divine Mother kills the Ego and Gods and > > Goddesses (that's us) are filled with delight. > > > > And so they sing in praise of Divine Mother. > > > > She is the energy of all and She is everywhere. > > > > She is the Goddess of Wealth in the homes of virtuous souls and > misery > > of those perform evil. > > > > > > Once after Swamiji chanted the Chandi he was telling us that he felt > > an excruciating pain running all the way from His feet to the top of > > His head. And do you know what His response to the pain was? > > > > He said, "I thanked the Goddess for giving Her darshan in the form > of > > the shooting pain". > > > > And of course, he completed His recitation without getting up. > > > > This really helped me and sometimes when I feel pain I remind myself > > of this story and it helps me sit and complete the recitation. > > > > How can we recognize Her in all the different ways She comes to us? > > How can we implement this lesson from Swamiji in our lives?=2 0 > > > > I look forward to hearing your thoughts! > > > > respectfully, > > Srini > > > Messages in this topic (5) ______________________ ______________________ 4. Walking the Path - 20 Sep Posted by: "maadevi55" maadevi55 maadevi55 Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) Through the recitation of scripture we breathe and inhale the wisdom of the scripture. We exhale the scripture, and we become the source of peace. Guru and the Goddess (Kasyapa Sutra 11) - Published by the Devi Mandir Om sanatani mayavidmahe Jñana praka´sayai dhimahe Tanno ´sri mam pracodayat Messages in this topic (1) ______________________ ______________________ 5a. To Linda,comprehensibility of the Goddess and some questions for the Posted by: "inspectionconnection108" inspectionconnection108 inspectionconnection108 Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) Namaste Linda and all family: Swami has created a wonder-full class on the entire Chandi. His complete discourse of every chapter is stored at the Mandir web site, chapter by chapter, at www.shreemaa.org. All your questions will be answered, and more. I sat at most of the classes, and time after time I was amazed at the depth of wisdom and transcendental bliss which was transmitted through Swami's words. Remember, Swami has chanted this text for 35+ years. He knows it backwards and forwards. He received the boon of sitting full time at Shree Maa's feet because He devoted himself heart and soul to Maa Shakti, Maa Chandi, Maa Kali, Maa Lakshi, Maa Saraswati, etc. Now it is our turn. Indeed, if we all listened to these discourses, everyone will start chanting the Chandi immediately. The Chandi touches upon every level of our existence. It changes and modifies every level of our existence, and leaves us in contact with Her. This text is a discourse of every moment of our lives. When you read it, remember this, and "see" how the Generals in the Army of the Great Ego, inside you and me, interact and cause so much trouble. They are: self conceit, self deprecation, too much, too little, wandering too and fro, want of resolution, etc. After you have listened to each chapter, post your comments and feelings. I guarantee that this will change your lives. Jai Ma Jai Swami vishweshwar , nierika wrote: > > jaisanatanimaa wrote: &g t; > > > reading these verses, what strikes me most is the emphasis on the > indescribability and the incomprehensibility of Divine Mother... > 'I' am supported by Her and not the other way around,is something to > be remembered constantly. In vs.5 it is said that She is 'faith to > the truthful'; to me, this means thatif we are honest enough to admit > that we 'don't know Her path very well', She will fill our hearts > with trust in Her in whatever guise She may choose... > > Dear jaisanatanimaa ~ I too was struck by the references to the incomprehensibility of Divine Mother. > Also, I was struck speechless (if I'd been inclined to talk), by this passage (V 4): "Whose imcomparable > greatness and strengh the Lord of the Universe (Vishnu?, Shiva?)...is incable to extol. So I was not > the only one rendered speechless. This passage from V 3, "Her intrinsic nature is the aggregate energy of > all the Gods and Seers." Wow! > > Then I decided that to really understand Chapter 4, I needed to read Chapter 3, and then quickly realized > that, actually, I would have to start with the first Chapter and read through to Chapter 4. It as there, in the > "Meditation," that I found brief descriptions of the objects She carries (that? had asked about in a pre- > vious post. I feel certain that these objects carry deeper meanins, but here is how they were descr ibed: > sword ... of worship (one pointed attention to the goal?) > > discus ... of revolving time (She stands beyond time and space?) > > bow ... of determination (we need to watch where we aim an shoot our arrows, and She is modeling this?) > > pike ... of attention (similar to the sword?) > > iron bar?... of restraint (couldn't come up with any additional intuitive understanding of this one) > > head ... of egotism (we must let ours go, or She will take it for us?) > > conch ... of vibrations (the conch comes from the water; again a reference perhaps to diving deep,or > of always coming from a deep level of understanding?; being above and beyond the roiling waves of > the turbulant ocean of objects and relationshps?, a bit like walking on water > > I would be very interested to read other people's interpretation or these objects, because they are > mentioned over and over in the Chandi Path. Is there a way to take this before Swamiji and ask > for his interpretation? > > To Devi Mandir Family: I very much like the way that vish has been going through the Advanced > Shiva Puja ... a verse at a time. I wonder if anyone here would be interested in doing that with > the 4th chapter of the Chandi? > > Jai Maa!!!!!? Jai Swamiji !!!!! > Linda > Messages in this topic (3) ________ ______________ ______________________ 6a. Re: to Linda and all - Chandi Path Chapter 4 Posted by: "mjfisher2005" mjfisher2005 mjfisher2005 Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) , nierika wrote: > To Devi Mandir Family: I very much like the way that vish has been going through the Advanced > Shiva Puja ... a verse at a time. I wonder if anyone here would be interested in doing that with > the 4th chapter of the Chandi? > > Jai Maa!!!!!? Jai Swamiji !!!!! > Linda I am listening to the discussion. I will not share much. This is my first time through the Chandi in Sanskrit with all proper mantras and prayers to be included. I am somewhat in awe and feel very much a beginner even though I have some familiarity with the text through chanting of some of the prayers from the Chandi in Sanskrit and having read it in it's entirety for some years in English. But mostly I had no guide and did not think at the time to ask anyone. I felt inspired by Divine Mother's courage and loving protection and that seemed to be enough. Now I know that is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak and study and chanting will repay me rich ly. To participate in satsang even though I cannot be with other devotees in person is indeed a priviledge. One which I prize highly. And what can I say about Swamiji's and Shree Ma's efforts to make all these scriptures availiable to everyone who seeks. I am blessed to live in these times. So I will start with Chapter 1 and slowly go through it, trying to grasp the meaning as well as I can. May Ma bless my efforts. Om Jai Ma Kali; Om Namah Shivaya! Kumari Messages in this topic (3) ______________________ ______________________ 7a. Re: to Ragan and all, from Swami-Q + A Posted by: "mjfisher2005" mjfisher2005 mjfisher2005 Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) I hope you do not mind my responding to this, but it raises a question in my mind. I am very intrested in learning the fire sacrifice and my question is: Is the same yantra used for them all or should the specific yantras for whatever Deity is being worshipped be used for that homa? Also, can I take any namavali of 108 names or 1008 names and use those to make offerings in the fire? How would I do that? My respectfull salutations and thanks to Swamiji and Shree Ma. Om Jai Ma Kali; Om namah Shivaya Kumari , "inspectionconnection108" <inspectionconnection108 wrote: > > Namaste Ragan and all: Swami's response to your question is below. > > > Firstly, Pranam Swami Ji and Shree Maa, Jai Maa. > > > > Its been some time since I have corresponded. > > > > If all the chandi path can not be recited as part of the 700 verse > > homa is there a particular chapter which can be recited and > > sacrificail ahutis given. > > > > Swami Jee, I have been specifically asked to perform the devi puja as > > part of a relative's overall Samasti Upasana as her last major puja. > > > > My part is a 2 hour puja in which I have to perform a homa. Please > > advise my dearest Sami Jee and Shree Maa. I have all the resources > > but am not sure which sequence in which to conduct puja. The puja > > host has asked that no mistakes to be made and that I am chosen to > > perform. > > > > Your advise is a blessing in my undertaking. > > > > Namaste, Jai Mata Ki > > > > Rajan Singh > > > SWAMI'S RESPONSE > > Watch the video How to Draw the Yantra and Enkindle the Divine Fire. > Also, purchase the Shiva Advanced Puja Book and Yajna Paddhoti. It > contains the sequence of offerings an d mantras. > > JAI MAA > Messages in this topic (3) ______________________ 7b. Kumari and all: fire ceremony Posted by: "inspectionconnection108" inspectionconnection108 inspectionconnection108 Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT)) Namaste Kumari and all: there is only 1 yantra used for all fire worship. Please view the video which Swami suggests and purchase the text "Advanced Shiva Puja". The video will show how to establish the yantra and the text has all the verses and their English translations, and a diagram of the yantra. Once you have established the yantra, any Deity can be worshiped with mantras, their 1008 names, the complele text, i.e.: Chandi Path, etc. I love the fire, and I really support your desire to learn how to create it yourself. Before I came to the Mandir, I performed a fire ceremony daily for 2 years and it changed my life. I felt more connected to Maa and Swami using the fire worship than any other sadhana. It is most powerful. Jai Maa Jai Swami vishweshwar , "mjfisher2005" <mjfisher2005 wrote: > > I hope you do not mind my responding to this, but it raises a > question in my mind. I am very intrested in learning the fire > sacrifice and my question is: Is the same yantra used for them all > or should the specific yantras for whatever Deity is being worshipped > be used for that homa? Also, can I take any namavali of 108 names or > 1008 names and use those to make offerings in the fire? How would I > do that? My respectfull salutations and thanks to Swamiji and Shree > Ma. > > Om Jai Ma Kali; Om namah Shivaya > > Kumari > > , "inspectionconnection108" > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Ragan and all: Swami's response to your question is below. > > > > > Firstly, Pranam Swami Ji and Shree Maa, Jai Maa. > > > > > > Its been some time since I have corresponded. > > > > > > If all the chandi path can not be recited as part of the 700 verse > > > homa is there a particular chapter which can be recited and > > > sacrificail ahutis given. > > > > > > Swami Jee, I have been specifically asked to perform the devi > puja as > > > part of a relative's overall Samasti Upasana as her last major > puja. > > > > > > My part is a 2 hour puja in which I have to perform a homa. Please > > > advise m y dearest Sami Jee and Shree Maa. I have all the resources > > > but am not sure which sequence in which to conduct puja. The puja > > > host has asked that no mistakes to be made and that I am chosen to > > > perform. > > > > > > Your advise is a blessing in my undertaking. > > > > > > Namaste, Jai Mata Ki > > > > > > Rajan Singh > > > > > > SWAMI'S RESPONSE > > > > Watch the video How to Draw the Yantra and Enkindle the Divine Fire. > > Also, purchase the Shiva Advanced Puja Book and Yajna Paddhoti. It > > contains the sequence of offerings and mantras. > > > > JAI MAA > > > Messages in this topic (3) ______________________ ______________________ 8. Walking the Path - 21 Sep. Posted by: "maadevi55" maadevi55 maadevi55 Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT)) Words of Wisdom "Each time a thought slips in, self-conceit is stealing a portion of your sacrifice. If you are not thinking of Chandi 100% of the time then self-conceit is stealing your sacrifice." - Swami Satyananda Saraswati Om sanatani mayavidmahe Jñana praka´sayai dhimahe Tanno ´s ri mam pracodayat Messages in this topic (1) ______________________ ______________________ 9. Walking the Path - 22 Sep. Posted by: "maadevi55" maadevi55 maadevi55 Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT)) The debt that we owe to our gurus and teachers is discharged by living in accordance with the wisdom that they have taught. Tattva Jnana - Published by the Devi Mandir Om sanatani mayavidmahe Jñana praka´sayai dhimahe Tanno ´sri mam pracodayat Messages in this topic (1) Please visit us online at http://www.ShreeMaa.org ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Victory to you as well, Linda! :-) To be sure, the only reason I read the Chandi in English was because my little copy only had Devinagari and English, no transliteration. And My ability to read Devinagari was limited to spelling it out letter by letter with pen in hand! I actually did that with some hymns that I recognize as having come from the Chandi now. I am sure there were some mistakes in those transliterations! It is such a pleasure now, to just read them straight through and I think my ability to recognize individual letters is beginning to improve. Om Jai Ma Kali - Om Namah Shivaya! Kumari , nierika wrote: > > Dear Kumari and all ~ interesting that you should mention having read through the entire Chandi in English. > I have always read the transliterated Sanskrit first, then the English. Reading Chapter 4, I suddenly > realized how much this was limiting me. It was breaking up the continuity, and so I wasn't able to > gain a real comprehension of the whole. So I went back and read all of Verse 4 in English. It immediately > made a very different impression to me, in a sense, putting me right there, in the aftermath of the battle and > once again realizing the incredible compassion of the Divine Mother, for even the negative thoughts were > allowed, through her grace, to ascend to heaven. This has struck me before, but more on an intellectual > level. So I believe that this time 'round, I will take a page from your book and read each chapter entirely > in Englis first. (The difficulty has been that I am so in love with Sanskrit and love the way it looks and > even my poor attempts to pronounce the transliterations. Yes, it is a privelege. Thank you for > reminding me of that. Jai Maa !!!! Jai Swamiji !!!! Kumari ki jai ! ~ Linda > > Kumari wrote: > > > I am listening to the discussion. I will not share much. This is my > irst time through the Chandi in Sanskrit with all proper mantras and > rayers to be included. I am somewhat in awe and feel very much a > eginner even though I have some familiarity with the text through > hanting of some of the prayers from the Chandi in > Sanskrit and > aving read it in it's entirety for some years in English. But > ostly I had no guide and did not think at the time to ask anyone. I > elt inspired by Divine Mother's courage and loving protection and > hat seemed to be enough. Now I know that is just the tip of the > ceberg so to speak and study and chanting will repay me richly. To > articipate in satsang even though I cannot be with other devotees in > erson is indeed a priviledge. One which I prize highly. And what > an I say about Swamiji's and Shree Ma's efforts to make all these > criptures availiable to everyone who seeks. I am blessed to live in > hese times. > So I will start with Chapter 1 and slowly go through it, trying to > rasp the meaning as well as I can. May Ma bless my efforts. > > > > > > > > Tue, 23 Sep 2008 3:44 am > [www.ShreeMaa.org] Digest Number 2726 > > > > There are 12 messages in this issue. > Topics in this digest: > 1. Walking the Path - 19 Sep > maadevi55 > 2a. spiritual calendar > srini_sadhu > b. Re: spiritual calendar > Alphanso DSouza > 3a. Re: Study of Chandi Path, Chapter 4, verses 1-7 > srini_sadhu > b. Re: Study of Chandi Path, Chapter 4, verses 1-7 > srini_sadhu > 4. Walking the Path - 20 Sep > maadevi55 > 5a. To Linda,comprehensibility of the Goddess and some questions for > the > inspectionconnection108 > 6a. Re: to Linda and all - Chandi Path Chapter 4 > mjfisher2005 > 7a. Re: to Ragan and all, from Swami-Q + A > mjfisher2005 > b. Kumari and all: fire ceremony > inspectionconnection108 > 8. Walking the Path - 21 Sep. > maadevi55 > 9. Walking the Path - 22 Sep. > maadevi55 > > essages > ____________________ _ > . Walking the Path - 19 Sep > Posted by: " maadevi55 " maadevi55 maadevi55 > Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:49 am ((PDT)) > > n order to go back to the origin, we must come and go by the same path. > Guru and the Goddess (Kasyapa Sutra 12) - Published by the Devi Mandir > Om sanatani mayavidmahe > Jñana praka´sayai dhimahe > Tanno ´sri mam pracodayat > > essages in this topic (1) > ____________________ _ > ____________________ _ > a. spiritual calendar > Posted by: " srini_sadhu " srini_sadhu srini_sadhu > Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:49 am ((PDT)) > Namaste! > Please visit > http://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/spiritual_calendar_september_21_27 > for the spiritual calendar for the upcoming week. > Love > rini > > Messages in this topic (4) > ____________________ _ > b. Re: spiritual calendar > Posted by: " Alphanso DSouza " alphanso108 alphansojohn > Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT)) > > Thank you Srini for the link. > m Shanti Shanti Shanti20Om!Peace and blessings to all Beings!Jai Durga Ma! > lphanso > : srini_sadhu: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 > 1:15:02 +0000[www.ShreeMaa.org] spiritual calendar > > > amaste!Please visithttp://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/spiritual_calendar_september_21_27 for > he spiritual calendar for the upcoming week.Lovesrini > > > _______________ > > essages in this topic (4) > ____________________ _ > ____________________ _ > a. Re: Study of Chandi Path, Chapter 4, verses 1-7 > Posted by: " srini_sadhu " srini_sadhu srini_sadhu > Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) > Dear Kumari, > Thank you for your post! > Maa and Swamiji emphasize this teaching a lot. And they exemplify this > eaching in many ways. > Complete your karma even if there is a lot of difficulty. > This has been my main teaching. When I lived in the world, I would let > hings slide. But in the ashram the emphasis is on completing all your > asks for the day. > Love > rini > > , " mjfisher2005 " <mjfisher2005@> > rote: > > The thing that strikes me about this story is that we must follow our > dharma even though there may be pain associated with it, because in > not completing that duty, there is even worse pain on all levels and > the joy of doing it is so much greater than the pain. > > Kumari > > , " srini_sadhu " <srini_sadhu@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste! > > > > Om Sam > Saraswatyai Namaha! > > > > I am happy to begin our discussion of Chapter 4 of Chandi Path. > > > > At the end of Chapter 3, Divine Mother kills the Ego and Gods and > > Goddesses (that's us) are filled with delight. > > > > And so they sing in praise of Divine Mother. > > > > She is the energy of all and She is everywhere. > > > > She is the Goddess of Wealth in the homes of virtuous souls and > misery > > of those perform evil. > > > > > > Once after Swamiji chanted the Chandi he was telling us that he felt > > an excruciating pain running all the way from His feet to the top of > > His head. And do you know what His response to the pain was? > > > > He said, " I thanked the Goddess for giving Her darshan in the form > of > > the shooting pain " . > > > > And of course, he completed His recitation without getting up. > > > > This really helped me and sometimes when I feel pain I remind myself > > of this story and it helps me sit and complete the recitation. > > > > How can we recognize Her in all the different ways She comes to us? > > How can we implement this lesson from Swamiji in our lives? > > > > I look forward to hearing your thoughts! > > > > respectfully, > > Srini > > > > > > essages in this topic (5) > ____________________ _ > b. Re: Study of Chandi Path, Chapter 4, verses 1-7 > Posted by: " srini_sadhu " srini_sadhu srini_sadhu > Mon Sep > 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) > Dear Henny, > It is true that She is infinite. But no one can grasp the infinite. So > e all create a for that is most appealing to us and strive to offer > ur devotion to that form. The saints say that the form can take us to > he doorstep of Akhanda Satchidananda. The form, the murti will give > ou everything you need. The life of Sri Ramakrishna, for me, is an > xample of how His devotion to the murti of Kali gave him everything. > Even today during the Chandi I was moving (for some reason) and so He > sked me to focus on the scripture (instead of moving). After the > oma, Swamiji emphasized to me the every thought other than Her means > hat Self-Conceit gets a portion of the sacrifice. The goal is to > ocus on God to exclusion of other thoughts. > Thanks for sharing! > Love > rini > > , " jaisanatanimaa " > jaisanatanimaa@> wrote: > > Namaste Srini and all, > > reading these verses, what strikes me most is the emphasis on the > indescribability and the incomprehensibility of Divine Mother; She > cannot be 'grasped' or comprehended by the mind. And yet, this is > what my mind tries to do: to fashion a comfortable and safe idea out > of Divine Mother which will accomodate my idea of goodness and > divinity, and which in no way forms a threat to the ego. Not really. > So, that mind thinks: 'surely Mother would not want me to suffer > pain, I think She won't mind if I move my leg a little'. As long as > 'I' am confortable, I > don't mind reciting the verses describing the > demise of the Great Ego:) > > To learn to accept that She will come as She will come, whether 'I' > like it or not, is not so easy. To acknowledge that Her ways are > other than 'my' ways, and that 'I' am supported by Her and not the > other way around,is something to be remembered constantly. In vs.5 it > is said that She is 'faith to the truthful'; to me, this means that > if we are honest enough to admit that we 'don't know Her path very > well', She will fill our hearts with trust in Her in whatever guise > She may choose, > > with love, > Henny > > , " srini_sadhu " <srini_sadhu@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste! > > > > Om Sam Saraswatyai Namaha! > > > > I am happy to begin our discussion of Chapter 4 of Chandi Path. > > > > At the end of Chapter 3, Divine Mother kills the Ego and Gods and > > Goddesses (that's us) are filled with delight. > > > > And so they sing in praise of Divine Mother. > > > > She is the energy of all and She is everywhere. > > > > She is the Goddess of Wealth in the homes of virtuous souls and > misery > > of those perform evil. > > > > > > Once after Swamiji chanted the Chandi he was telling us that he felt > > an excruciating pain running all the way from His feet to the top of > > His head. And do you know what His response to the pain was? > > > > He said, " I thanked the Goddess for=2 > 0giving Her darshan in the form > of > > the shooting pain " . > > > > And of course, he completed His recitation without getting up. > > > > This really helped me and sometimes when I feel pain I remind myself > > of this story and it helps me sit and complete the recitation. > > > > How can we recognize Her in all the different ways She comes to us? > > How can we implement this lesson from Swamiji in our lives? > > > > I look forward to hearing your thoughts! > > > > respectfully, > > Srini > > > > > > essages in this topic (5) > ____________________ _ > ____________________ _ > . Walking the Path - 20 Sep > Posted by: " maadevi55 " maadevi55 maadevi55 > Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) > > hrough the recitation of scripture we breathe and inhale the wisdom of > he scripture. We exhale the scripture, and we become the source of > eace. > Guru and the Goddess (Kasyapa Sutra 11) - Published by the Devi Mandir > Om sanatani mayavidmahe > Jñana praka´sayai dhimahe > Tanno ´sri mam pracodayat > > essages in this topic (1) > ____________________ _ > ____________________ _ > a. To Linda,comprehensibility of the Goddess and some questions for the > Posted by: " inspectionconnection108 " inspectionconnection108 > nspectionconnection108 > Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) > Namaste Linda and all family: Swami has created a wonder-ful > l class > n the entire Chandi. His complete discourse of every chapter is > tored at the Mandir web site, chapter by chapter, at > ww.shreemaa.org. All your questions will be answered, and more. I > at at most of the classes, and time after time I was amazed at the > epth of wisdom and transcendental bliss which was transmitted through > wami's words. > emember, Swami has chanted this text for 35+ years. He knows it > ackwards and forwards. He received the boon of sitting full time at > hree Maa's feet because He devoted himself heart and soul to Maa > hakti, Maa Chandi, Maa Kali, Maa Lakshi, Maa Saraswati, etc. > ow it is our turn. > > ndeed, if we all listened to these discourses, everyone will start > hanting the Chandi immediately. The Chandi touches upon every level > f our existence. It changes and modifies every level of our > xistence, and leaves us in contact with Her. This text is a discourse > f every moment of our lives. When you read it, remember this, and > see " how the Generals in the Army of the Great Ego, inside you and > e, interact and cause so much trouble. They are: self conceit, self > eprecation, too much, too little, wandering too and fro, want of > esolution, etc. > fter you have listened to each chapter, post your comments and > eelings. I guarantee that this will change your lives. > > ai Ma Jai Swami > vishweshwar > > > , nierika@ wrote: > > jaisanatanimaa wrote: > > > > reading these verses, what strikes me most is the emphasis on the 0D indescribability and the incomprehensibility of Divine Mother... > 'I' am supported by Her and not the other way around,is something to > be remembered constantly. In vs.5 it is said that She is 'faith to > the truthful'; to me, this means thatif we are honest enough to admit > that we 'don't know Her path very well', She will fill our hearts > with trust in Her in whatever guise She may choose... > > Dear jaisanatanimaa ~ I too was struck by the references to the > ncomprehensibility of Divine Mother. > Also, I was struck speechless (if I'd been inclined to talk), by > his passage (V 4): " Whose imcomparable > greatness and strengh the Lord of the Universe (Vishnu?, > hiva?)...is incable to extol. So I was not > the only one rendered speechless. This passage from V 3, " Her > ntrinsic nature is the aggregate energy of > all the Gods and Seers. " Wow! > > Then I decided that to really understand Chapter 4, I needed to read > hapter 3, and then quickly realized > that, actually, I would have to start with the first Chapter and > ead through to Chapter 4. It as there, in the > " Meditation, " that I found brief descriptions of the objects She > arries (that? had asked about in a pre- > vious post. I feel certain that these objects carry deeper meanins, > ut here is how they were described: > sword ... of worship (one pointed attention to the goal?) > > discus ... of revolving time (She stands beyond time and space?) > > bow ... of determination (we need to watch where we aim an shoot o > ur > rrows, and She is modeling this?) > > pike ... of attention (similar to the sword?) > > iron bar?... of restraint (couldn't come up with any additional > ntuitive understanding of this one) > > head ... of egotism (we must let ours go, or She will take it for us?) > > conch ... of vibrations (the conch comes from the water; again a > eference perhaps to diving deep,or > of always coming from a deep level of understanding?; being above > nd beyond the roiling waves of > the turbulant ocean of objects and relationshps?, a bit like walking > n water > > I would be very interested to read other people's interpretation or > hese objects, because they are > mentioned over and over in the Chandi Path. Is there a way to take > his before Swamiji and ask > for his interpretation? > > To Devi Mandir Family: I very much like the way that vish has been > oing through the Advanced > Shiva Puja ... a verse at a time. I wonder if anyone here would be > nterested in doing that with > the 4th chapter of the Chandi? > > Jai Maa!!!!!? Jai Swamiji !!!!! > Linda > > > > essages in this topic (3) > ____________________ _ > ____________________ _ > a. Re: to Linda and all - Chandi Path Chapter 4 > Posted by: " mjfisher2005 " mjfisher2005 mjfisher2005 > Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) > , nierika@ wrote: > To Devi Mandir Family: I very much like the way that vish has been > oing throu > gh the Advanced > Shiva Puja ... a verse at a time. I wonder if anyone here would be > nterested in doing that with > the 4th chapter of the Chandi? > > Jai Maa!!!!!? Jai Swamiji !!!!! > Linda > > am listening to the discussion. I will not share much. This is my > irst time through the Chandi in Sanskrit with all proper mantras and > rayers to be included. I am somewhat in awe and feel very much a > eginner even though I have some familiarity with the text through > hanting of some of the prayers from the Chandi in Sanskrit and > aving read it in it's entirety for some years in English. But > ostly I had no guide and did not think at the time to ask anyone. I > elt inspired by Divine Mother's courage and loving protection and > hat seemed to be enough. Now I know that is just the tip of the > ceberg so to speak and study and chanting will repay me richly. To > articipate in satsang even though I cannot be with other devotees in > erson is indeed a priviledge. One which I prize highly. And what > an I say about Swamiji's and Shree Ma's efforts to make all these > criptures availiable to everyone who seeks. I am blessed to live in > hese times. > So I will start with Chapter 1 and slowly go through it, trying to > rasp the meaning as well as I can. May Ma bless my efforts. > Om Jai Ma Kali; Om Namah Shivaya! > umari > > Messages in this topic (3) > ____________________ _ > _________ > ____________________________ > a. Re: to Ragan and all, from Swami-Q + A > Posted by: " mjfisher2005 " mjfisher2005 mjfisher2005 > Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am ((PDT)) > I hope you do not mind my responding to this, but it raises a > uestion in my mind. I am very intrested in learning the fire > acrifice and my question is: Is the same yantra used for them all > r should the specific yantras for whatever Deity is being worshipped > e used for that homa? Also, can I take any namavali of 108 names or > 008 names and use those to make offerings in the fire? How would I > o that? My respectfull salutations and thanks to Swamiji and Shree > a. > Om Jai Ma Kali; Om namah Shivaya > Kumari > , " inspectionconnection108 " > inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > Namaste Ragan and all: Swami's response to your question is below. > > > Firstly, Pranam Swami Ji and Shree Maa, Jai Maa. > > > > Its been some time since I have corresponded. > > > > If all the chandi path can not be recited as part of the 700 verse > > homa is there a particular chapter which can be recited and > > sacrificail ahutis given. > > > > Swami Jee, I have been specifically asked to perform the devi > uja as > > part of a relative's overall Samasti Upasana as her last major > uja. > > > > My part is a 2 hour puja in which I have to perform a homa. Please > > advise my dearest Sami Jee and Shree Maa. I have all the resources > > but am not sure which > sequence in which to conduct puja. The puja > > host has asked that no mistakes to be made and that I am chosen to > > perform. > > > > Your advise is a blessing in my undertaking. > > > > Namaste, Jai Mata Ki > > > > Rajan Singh > > > SWAMI'S RESPONSE > > Watch the video How to Draw the Yantra and Enkindle the Divine Fire. > Also, purchase the Shiva Advanced Puja Book and Yajna Paddhoti. It > contains the sequence of offerings and mantras. > > JAI MAA > > > > essages in this topic (3) > ____________________ _ > b. Kumari and all: fire ceremony > Posted by: " inspectionconnection108 " inspectionconnection108 > nspectionconnection108 > Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT)) > Namaste Kumari and all: there is only 1 yantra used for all fire > orship. Please view the video which Swami suggests and purchase the > ext " Advanced Shiva Puja " . The video will show how to establish the > antra and the text has all the verses and their English translations, > nd a diagram of the yantra. > nce you have established the yantra, any Deity can be worshiped with > antras, their 1008 names, the complele text, i.e.: Chandi Path, etc. > love the fire, and I really support your desire to learn how to > reate it yourself. > efore I came to the Mandir, I performed a fire ceremony daily for 2 > ears and it changed my life. I felt more connected to Maa and Swami > sing the fire worship than any other sadhana. It is most powerful. > Jai Maa Jai Swami > vishweshwa > r > > , " mjfisher2005 " <mjfisher2005@> > rote: > > I hope you do not mind my responding to this, but it raises a > question in my mind. I am very intrested in learning the fire > sacrifice and my question is: Is the same yantra used for them all > or should the specific yantras for whatever Deity is being worshipped > be used for that homa? Also, can I take any namavali of 108 names or > 1008 names and use those to make offerings in the fire? How would I > do that? My respectfull salutations and thanks to Swamiji and Shree > Ma. > > Om Jai Ma Kali; Om namah Shivaya > > Kumari > > , " inspectionconnection108 " > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Ragan and all: Swami's response to your question is below. > > > > > Firstly, Pranam Swami Ji and Shree Maa, Jai Maa. > > > > > > Its been some time since I have corresponded. > > > > > > If all the chandi path can not be recited as part of the 700 verse > > > homa is there a particular chapter which can be recited and > > > sacrificail ahutis given. > > > > > > Swami Jee, I have been specifically asked to perform the devi > puja as > > > part of a relative's overall Samasti Upasana as her last major > puja. > > > > > > My part is a 2 hour puja in which I have to perform a homa. Please > > > advise my dearest Sami Jee and Shree Maa. I have all the resources > > > but am not sure which seque > nce in which to conduct puja. The puja > > > host has asked that no mistakes to be made and that I am chosen to > > > perform. > > > > > > Your advise is a blessing in my undertaking. > > > > > > Namaste, Jai Mata Ki > > > > > > Rajan Singh > > > > > > SWAMI'S RESPONSE > > > > Watch the video How to Draw the Yantra and Enkindle the Divine Fire. > > Also, purchase the Shiva Advanced Puja Book and Yajna Paddhoti. It > > contains the sequence of offerings and mantras. > > > > JAI MAA > > > > > > essages in this topic (3) > ____________________ _ > ____________________ _ > . Walking the Path - 21 Sep. > Posted by: " maadevi55 " maadevi55 maadevi55 > Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT)) > > ords of Wisdom > > " Each time a thought slips in, self-conceit is stealing a portion of > our sacrifice. If you are not thinking of Chandi 100% of the time then > elf-conceit is stealing your sacrifice. " - > Swami Satyananda Saraswati > > Om sanatani mayavidmahe > Jñana praka´sayai dhimahe > Tanno ´sri mam pracodayat > > > essages in this topic (1) > ____________________ _ > ____________________ _ > . Walking the Path - 22 Sep. > Posted by: " maadevi55 " maadevi55 maadevi55 > Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT)) > > he debt that we owe to our gurus and teachers is discharged by living > n accordance with the wisdom that they have tau > ght. > > Tattva Jnana - Published by the Devi Mandir > Om sanatani mayavidmahe > Jñana praka´sayai dhimahe > Tanno ´sri mam pracodayat > > essages in this topic (1) > > Please visit us online at http://www.ShreeMaa.org > -- ---- > ahoo! Groups Links > Digest Email | Traditional > > > -- --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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