To Kumari, Renuka, Linda, Kali, and all: Ideal Relationships-seeing God

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Namaste all family: Maa and Swami want us to see God in everyone.

Page 231, in BEFORE BECOMING THIS, the question is asked of Maa: " I

am trying to understand how you can see God in your partner when you

are not liking their action in the moment. I find that very difficult. "

 

Maa replied: " You have to prepare yourself internally first, so that

you can see everything as God. You have to do alot of sadhana and

work on yourself.

The foremost objective in human life is to attain Godliness, which is

liberation. Liberation is the cessation of all pain, all bonds, and

every type of deficiency. In order to obtain liberation, it is

imperative to perform sadhana.

 

What do you mean by ideal of perfection?

 

Swami replies: " Every atom of existence has an ideal of perfection

that it is striving to manifest. So the flower is trying to become

the ideal flower. You are trying to manifest pure devotion. "

 

Maa says: " It is possible to be perfect. "

 

Swami says: " Godliness is that state of perfection "

 

Is that the purpose of relationships, to experience that state of

perfection? "

 

Swami said: " Sure. Relationships require us to surrender our

selfishness, and in doing that we attain Godliness. "

 

Maa says: " We are talking about surrendering your ego. You have to

surrender to your own self. We are talking about surrendering to the

God within you. We are not talking about surrendering blindly.

 

Swami speaks: " When we talk about surrender, it does not absolve us

from discriminating. In surrender, we offer ourselves in equilibrium

to the God within our partner and ourselves. That doesn't mean we

obey their every order. We have a duty to discriminate what is part

of my path and what is not. They we'll say to our partner, " Please

explain to me how what you are asking is going to manifest our

purpose, our highest Godliness. If it does, I'll probably be all for

it. If it doesn't, I still respect the God within you, but I can't do

what you want in this case. "

 

Maa says: " If you live together, it is important that both people

surrender. If you live with someone who does not want to surrender,

you will never find peace. You have to find someone who has the same

purpose. That is the only way you can find peace in your

relationship, that is the way we can grow, that is the way you can

inspire beautiful children in the dharma.

Why would we have a relationship without a common goal? "

 

Swami speaks: " If you do have a relationship without a common goal,

you had better stop right now and say, " Partner, what is the purpose

of our being together, and how can we make that purpose manifest

itself? If we can't manifest our purpose together, let's be honest

about it and either make it happen alone or with another partner.

Let's see how we can negotiate, how we can support each other's goals;

otherwise, both of us will have to come back to this planet and start

all over again.

The romance, the attachment, the infatuation, the honeymoon period are

so transitory. Unless we have a common goal, it will be very

difficult to make it through life. As soon as we wake up and become

aware of this, let's get to the business of defining our purpose and

working together to make it manifest. "

 

Dear family, it is so important to take this wisdom to heart. Life is

so very short, and every moment we have the chance to either manifest

God or something else. It is our choice and we have to keep vigilant

every moment to to the right thing.

Pray to God / Goddess to grant us the strength and clarity and pure

devotion to manifest God, every moment, every day.

 

Jai Ma Jai Swami

 

love

 

vishweshwar

 

 

 

 

, " mjfisher2005 " <mjfisher2005

wrote:

>

> I suppose it might seem crazy to be worshipping your partner in that

> way. To me it makes perfect sense now. I may not be able to put in

> words to him what he means to me. Very honestly this is the first

> time i have been able to see God in someone, anyone. I saw him as

> Shiva almost from the beginning, but I could not accept that.

> Believe me I have had to do many austerities to get to this point,

> like Parvati. And I am sure there will be many more. But it was the

> grace of Shree Maa that turned his mind to me at last. It is not

> that I see him as faultless, but I see the things that I love about

> Shiva in him reflected. As Maa said, " We will find a way to talk

> about it. " We've already joked about it, and that is a way of

> talking about something that may be too deep and too true to say

> directly. As I give from the bottom of my heart, he begins to give

> to me.

>

> I ask for Swamiji and Maa's blessing on our coming together. May we

> be truly graced.

>

> Om Jai Kali Ma! Om Namah Shivaya!

> Kumari

>

> , " glassfairy_14 "

> <glassfairy_14@> wrote:

> >

> > namaste shree ma & swamiji

> >

> > thank u once again,...i now understood wat u were tryin to

> tell...the

> > feeling of love and selfless love tht we feel for god...tht same

> love

> > needs to be felt for the ppl who r imp to us...and when tht happens

> > those relationship will improve...probably this is the same tht lord

> > ram practised inspite of kaykay and mantra being rude and evil to

> > him..he still oved them n respected them as his mother tht finally

> > made them realize their mistake and start loving him..

> >

> > though its honestly very very difficult for aperson like me who

> gets

> > angry easily and cools of eaisly too....but still controlling tht

> > angger is one big task tht i hope to achieve

> >

> > maybe now i wll see all relationships in a new light

> >

> > regards

> > renuka

> >

> > , " inspectionconnection108 "

> > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Linda, Kumari, Kali, and all family: Linda, you may not

> have

> > > the mutual goal of God realization with your husband, but you can

> have

> > > other very sweet and beautiful goals. We begin from where we are

> in

> > > our relationship, and communicate our desires and hopes and

> dreams,

> > > and with an open heart, work with our spouse to create goals

> together

> > > which nurture and cultivate harmony in the relationship. And, by

> > > continuing to communicate and listen to each other, our goals can

> > > evolve as we support each other and grow closer.

> > > As Swami says: " In a healthy relationship, we will find a way to

> talk

> > > about everything. "

> > > Let's also see what Maa and Swami mean when they talk about a

> spouse

> > > worshiping their mate as God/Goddess.

> > >

> > > Let's hear more from Maa and Swami from their book, BEFORE

> BECOMING

> > > THIS, in the chapter MEN AND WOMEN, WHAT'S THE POINT, page 227 and

> > > onwards, Maa and Swami talk about WHY MEN AND WOMAN ARE TOGETHER.

> > >

> > > MAA SPEAKS: " They're {husband and wife} in relationships that are

> > > selfish because nowadays there are too many distractions. There

> are

> > > so many things we want to acquire. This grasping creates a lack

> of

> > > balance. We have manipulated science for our selfish gain, and

> that

> > > is an indication of potential catastrophe. Only when wisdom and

> > > science are in harmony will we have peace. "

> > > Maa continues: " If they will just begin to surrender their

> > > selfishness, their very first attempts will give them the answer

> to

> > > their question. That will give them the inspiration to strive

> with

> > > greater consistency. "

> > >

> > > What is the purpose of men and women having a relationship?

> > >

> > > Maa responds: " For the illumination of true consciousness and

> bliss,

> > > it is necessary for the masculine and feminine principles to

> unite,

> > > for men and women to harmonize their natures to work together. "

> > >

> > > Swami speaks: " When you put the qualities of men and women

> together,

> > > you have a more dynamic capacity for working effectively in

> creation.

> > > If a man can treat a woman like a Goddess, she will turn him

> into a

> > > God. If a woman can treat her man like a God, he will make her

> into a

> > > Goddess. "

> > >

> > > How do you treat someone like a God or Goddess?

> > >

> > > Maa says: " Love and respect them with all your heart.

> > > Swami says: " Completely surrender to your partner. Having a

> > > relationship is a sadhana, a spiritual discipline. "

> > >

> > > Any suggestions for how people can see God in their partners?

> > >

> > > Swami speaks: " We suggest learning puja or worship, which trains

> you

> > > to see God within....and you can perform puja to your spouse,

> which

> > > will help you see the God within him or her.

> > > There is a beautiful verse in the LALITA TRISHATI that I am very

> fond

> > > of. It says: " Shiva and Shakti revolve around each other

> mutually and

> > > reciprocally. He who understands this understands what a chakra

> is. "

> > > A chakra means a center of energy and it means a cyclical

> rotation.

> > > He who understands this reciprocity will surrender his ego and the

> > > egotism of minor irritations in order to be in harmony with the

> one

> > > divinity. If there is a persistent problem., it has to be

> communicated

> > > in an effective way. Otherwise it will breed disharmony.

> > >

> > > At marriage ceremonies Swami has performed he will recommend that

> > > every week men perform Durga puja to their wife, and wife perform

> > > Shiva puja to their husband.

> > >

> > > This is what worshiping one's spouse as God / Goddess means.

> Putting

> > > the photo of one's intended or spouse on one's altar is another

> method

> > > of keeping them in your prayers and associating them with

> Godliness.

> > > I have photos of my family, children, grandchildren, ancestors,

> and

> > > friends on my altar. I bless them and pray for their well being

> every

> > > time I perform puja.

> > > Maa has photos of devotees, Her spiritual children, on Her altar

> and

> > > regularly keeps candles burning on behalf of devotees who need

> help

> > > and have asked for prayers.

> > >

> > > Maa speaks: " The foremost objective in human life is to attain

> > > Godliness, which is liberation. Liberation is the cessation of

> all

> > > pain, all bonds and every type of deficiency. In order to obtain

> > > liberation, it is imperative to perform sadhana.

> > > The purpose of all activity is to liberated from all bonds and to

> find

> > > pure joy and true wealth. Whatever work you perform, the ultimate

> > > objective is to attain Godliness. If you are aware of your

> ultimate

> > > objective while you are working, your mind, intellect, and senses

> will

> > > be in harmony and your actions will move you toward liberation.

> This

> > > is what we call performing our dharma and finding our ideal of

> > > perfections. "

> > >

> > > Dear family, I have been in a committed relationship with my wife

> for

> > > almost 35 years. I have experienced all that Maa and Swami say to

> be

> > > Truth. I have tried to follow their advice, and to the extent I

> have

> > > been able, my relationship has improved tremendously. It is

> sadhana,

> > > and one has to remember that. If one wants to reach toe ultimate

> > > Goal, that a spouse united in love of God is a tremendous boon.

> > > Please look into your heart and ask yourself why you are married

> and

> > > what you can do to improve your relationship. For if we cannot

> > > improve this core relationship, then how can we expect this world

> to

> > > become peaceful?

> > >

> > > Love

> > >

> > > Jai Ma Jai Swami

> > >

> > > vishweshwar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Linda Talbott <skyedaughter@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear vish ~ I don't think my hubby will actually join with me

> in a

> > > purposeful way to live a God/dess centered life. However, I am

> going

> > > to go back and re-read that chapter because I'm very sure that I

> would

> > > benefit from the information and suggestions - for things I could

> do

> > > on my own that would benefit our mutual relationship. Thank you

> for

> > > reminding me of this chapter; I do have the book.  :  )      Jai

> Maa

> > > !!!  Jai Swamiji !!!

> > > > ~ Linda 

> > > >  

> > > >

> > >

> > ....................................................................

> ...............................................................

> > > > vish wrote:

> > > > As you start on this

> > > > incredible adventure, I suggest you and your intended read the

> book

> > > > BEFORE BECOMING THIS.

> > > > Maa and Swami wrote this book, available to purchase at the Devi

> > > > Mandir web site. Chapter 21 is called RELATIONSHIPS, MEN AND

> WOMEN,

> > > > WHAT'S THE POINT? "

> > > > This is a great primer for anyone entering into a long term

> committed

> > > > relationship. Maa and Swami establish why men and women should

> get

> > > > together and how to establish goals and live together leading a

> God

> > > > centered life, including worshiping each other as Shiva and

> Durga.

> > > >

> > > > ...I recommend this book for it gives all of us wisdom on

> creating and

> > > > maintaining ideal, God centered relationships. And for those of

> us in

> > > > relationships, we can find inspiration and practical techniques

> to

> > > > prevent and/or cure existing problems.

> > > >

> > > > I will quote more of the text tomorrow night. Pleas send any

> > > > questions on relationships so we can all discuss them in light

> of

> > > > Maa's wisdom.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>