Manjusha ; Swami's response:Q + A with Swami: Asuras?

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Wow Dan!!!

How true!!! How very true!!!

The Devas and Asuras MUST connect. MUST churn the oceans of the mind.

For the TRUTH to become visible- the essence of the churning!! The

inside and outside, the duality is no more!

You and Kalidas are geniuses!

 

I find myself closer to the answers!!!

Jai Maa and Jai Swamiji

 

Love

Manjushri

 

 

, bmarley343 wrote:

>

> also i like to look at the dichotomy of deva and asura as divya to

> shine. our ability to look inside and see our inner shining. and asura

> as our desire to look out into the world. the play of looking within

> and looking outside. the more we look outside we see duality. the more

> we look within we see unity. to the extent that we look outside to

> reaffirm what we find inside i would say that this is how the devas and

> asuras work together to churn the milk ocean . the amrita is that eyes

> open or closed i am firmly established in oneness with god. OM. JAI

> SWAMIJI JAI MA!!!

>

> dan

>

>

>

> Thubten Namgyal <anandabhairav

>

> Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:40 am

> Re: [www.ShreeMaa.org] Manjusha ; Swami's response:Re: Q + A

> with Swami: Asuras?

Dear Manjushri,

>

> Perhaps it is less confusing to see the the deva/asura dichotomy in a

> psychological sense as Hope and Fear. These truly are two sides of

> the same coin because intrinsic to hope is a fear that one will not

> achieve one's aims, and in fear there is always the hope of things

> turning out right. The ocean of our mind is truly churned by hopes

> and fears and the evanescent drama of our life in this world with its

> joys and sorrows arises in dependence on them.

>

> I don't think that you can say that it doesn't matter what one

> perceives simply because there is an element of relativity to our

> interaction with our objects of experience. I think that perhaps

> Svamiji is saying is that for flies, excrement might be an excellent

> and delightful food... but we would come to woe if we in our human

> form tried to subsist on such a diet.

>

> An important application of this is that we should never be too

> zealous in our proclamations of Truth, excluding the paths and

> proclivities of others. This does not mean that we dispense with the

> Absolute. However, we must realize that all *paths* to wisdom have

> more to do with our dis-ease and confusion than with the goal itself.

> From the point of view of Reality, all " practice " is a kind of vanity,

> but one that is absolutely necessary for those of us that are confused

> to engage wholeheartedly and one-pointedly in.

>

> With love,

>

> Kalidas

>

> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:29 AM, misra_manjusha

> <misra_manjusha wrote:

> > Namaste Vish,

> >

> > The second part of Swamiji's answer is the one that's been intriguing

> me

> > actually! I think he's brought the real issue I had in mind, to the

> > forefront.

> > If objects change their perspectives depending on how you look at

> them, does

> > it mean that it does not really matter how you look at things

> (because that

> > might depend on which society you live in or where you come from)

> because it

> > doesn't change the reality.

> > Is our spirituality geared towards 'seeing' the entire object without

> being

> > biased by any particular perspective? (I remember a certain story

> about an

> > elephant and blind men)

> > Would that mean Dev and Asuras are two sides of the same coin?

> >

> > Thanks Vish for engaging the discussion.

> > Jai Maa and Jai Swamiji!!!!

> >

> > Manjushri

> >

> > , " inspectionconnection108 "

> > <inspectionconnection108@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Namaste Manjusha: here are Swami's answers to your questions below

> >>

> >> SWAMI said:

> >> " Everything in manifested existence has both.

> >>

> >> Also there is a way of looking at things, so that something that

> >> appears as negative to one individual could appear as positive to

> >> another. "

> >> _______________

> >>

> >>

> >> Is there any geographical/historical connotation? Or do we all have

> >> both the shining and dark forces within us?

> >>

> >> Jai Maa & Jai Swamiji

> >> Manjushri

> >>

> >

> >

>