Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Dear Bob ~ I believe that often, as in the quote from the Ramakrishna book, the word, 'consciousness,' is meant to mean that state of non-dual oneness ... consciousness with a big C ... Consciousness. I know that when I was learning TM, Maharishi used this term to mean the state of oneness with what he called "Being." Of course, the word, 'consciousness,' could also mean just simply the state of being awake and aware ... just ordinary perception, but I believe when it is referred to in a spiritual context that it means the larger Consciousness of Oneness. I wonder what others here think on this. Jai Maa Jai Swamiji ~ Linda Bob wrote: A very fine quote, yet I've always why there is so much emphasis on consciousness in various teachings, which although it is very important it is still dualistic in nature and not the non-dualistic Brahman in the Heart of Hearts - thus without Brahman, consciousness would seemingly be a moot point, or missing the point. (for only Brahman realizes Brahman, while consciousness only realizes pure mind and thus in time must surrender to Brahman in the Heart if fulfillment of Being is to be known) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hello Linda, You bring up some very good points about possible differences in interpretation! To me the big C you mention would still be of the mind, although of pure mind as a state of two in Oneness/Bliss; although with a consciousness such as that not being able to reach beyond itself as consciousness or mind...or to say it in a slightly different way, even the pure mind can not reach beyond the last thresholds of mind. (with the term mind being used to represent the totality of creation, preservation and destruction or far greater than just the common definition of a human mind and thoughts) Consciousness/mind might also be defined as a tool, as an aspect and or as an emanation of an un-encompassable, un-mind-knowable, transcendent, non-dualistic Brahman. On a side note I believe that certain schools of Hinduism and Buddhism may have some common ground in such an interpretaion being that Buddhism teaches that consciousness is like the very finest of " things " before their attaining of the, " Beyond the Beyond " . (btw, I've felt that making such specualtions between religions is at the very least problematic or like trying to mix water and oil, even if the intention is good) In conclusion to this particular post, is the interpretation of consciousness that you are sharing with me (that is if I understand you correctly?) along the lines that are foundational to Devi Mandir lineage and or teachings? (as I haven't had much time to study here yet) Thank you for your kind reply and time. Om Regards, Bob , nierika wrote: > > Dear Bob ~ I believe that often, as in the quote from the Ramakrishna book, > the word, 'consciousness,' is meant to mean that state of non-dual oneness > ... consciousness with a big C ... Consciousness. I know that when I was > learning TM, Maharishi used this term to mean the state of oneness with what > he called " Being. " > > Of course, the word, 'consciousness,' could also mean just simply the state > of being awake and aware ... just ordinary perception, but I believe when > it is referred to in a spiritual context that it means the larger > Consciousness of Oneness. I wonder what others here think on this. Jai Maa Jai > Swamiji ~ Linda > > > Bob wrote: > > A very fine quote, yet I've always why there is so much emphasis on > consciousness in various teachings, which although it is very important it is > still dualistic in nature and not the non-dualistic Brahman in the Heart of > Hearts - thus without Brahman, consciousness would seemingly be a moot point, > or missing the point. (for only Brahman realizes Brahman, while > consciousness only realizes pure mind and thus in time must surrender to Brahman in > the Heart if fulfillment of Being is to be known) > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://\ www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072 & hmpgID=115 & bcd > =JulystepsfooterNO115) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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