Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hi, It seems to me that our spirits know where safe places for them are, and, where they are not. That is why I joined this group. I am a member of a support group in the U.S., that deals with a specific spiritual path (steps) as a spiritual program, and claims spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection. It is almost like deja vu with me, but I left these groups, some 14 years ago, because I sensed a spirit of judgment there, and then fell into the problem that originally led me there...12 years later, then returned about 14 months ago. While I believe in purity (of body, mind, and spirit), I have a hard time with being judged by other human beings (what kind of clothes I wear, weather or not my hair is combed or not; whatever). Am I wrong for feeling that my spirit is in someway quelched or, violated, when I'm subjected to comments that make me feel like I'm being judged? Is there " only one path " to recovery from someone prone to addictions? I prefer a gentle road. Your feedback would be appreciated. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Gentle friend, I can only speak from my personal experience regarding addiction, recovery and spirituality. Seven years sober last week, all thanks are to God. And I believe I know of the 12 Steps of which you speak. They are a foundation, but understand you are ultimately the temple. What are you building it with? God, in every name you call God, cannot help anyone held hostage by addiction. But I'm sure you already know that. It is in completely clearing your mind and body that allows the energy of God's love to find you. Yes, find you, not you find it. If you're looking for something that's outside of yourself (including God), you will never find it. When you honor the God in you, God finds you. You won't want to drink/use drugs ever again. Really. Spirituality is not a religion, it is a code of conduct. You choose to be happy. Joy is the only conduit to to God's loving energy. You are allowing yourself to feel judged and you need to look at that very deeply. God isn't judging you. God wants to love you. The sooner you embrace that in your heart, the better you will feel. I don't think that's part of the 12 Steps. As long as you remain self-conscious, or choose to subject yourself to situations that make you self-conscious, you are simply not facing that which God knows you no longer need (Step 4 perhaps?) My spiritual path has been completely different and far more New Age than any defined religion. The only by remaining completely clear and honest with God, and that means admitting and letting go over of EVERYTHING, choosing to really change and to live in joy (remember God's not judging - never has, never will - that's man's fall, putting that on God - and what's kept us apart as brothers and sisters...but I digress) will you know God and truly be at peace. Blows you out of the water when you do hear from God....trust me. May God go with you, sal. , " GaryO " <integrityinall wrote: > > Hi, > > It seems to me that our spirits know where safe places for them are, and, where they are not. That is why I joined this group. > > I am a member of a support group in the U.S., that deals with a specific spiritual path (steps) as a spiritual program, and claims spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection. It is almost like deja vu with me, but I left these groups, some 14 years ago, because I sensed a spirit of judgment there, and then fell into the problem that originally led me there...12 years later, then returned about 14 months ago. > > While I believe in purity (of body, mind, and spirit), I have a hard time with being judged by other human beings (what kind of clothes I wear, weather or not my hair is combed or not; whatever). Am I wrong for feeling that my spirit is in someway quelched or, violated, when I'm subjected to comments that make me feel like I'm being judged? Is there " only one path " to recovery from someone prone to addictions? > > I prefer a gentle road. Your feedback would be appreciated. > > Gary > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Dear Sally, Thank you for your response to my posting! I am sober today, going into my 10th month. I was sober for 22 years, through the ups, downs, and sideway's of life, and slipped when I was out in California, in 2007, at a trade show. I had no intention of drinking, nor was the pressures that I was getting from business, that much different than they were before (I was always in a high pressure situation....ad sales, maybe though because I am so much older today, I had more trouble handling it?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 That is sad. We do judge people all of the tiem. Our judging holds people where they are and makes it hard to come out of whatever it is they are struggling with. Thank you for you post. It opened my mind and heart Maybe judgement can be reduced by giving an explanaition for that which appears to be different? From: integrityinallDate: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:49:26 +0000[www.ShreeMaa.org] "A safe place to shareSupport Groups/Spirituality" Hi,It seems to me that our spirits know where safe places for them are, and, where they are not. That is why I joined this group.I am a member of a support group in the U.S., that deals with a specific spiritual path (steps) as a spiritual program, and claims spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection. It is almost like deja vu with me, but I left these groups, some 14 years ago, because I sensed a spirit of judgment there, and then fell into the problem that originally led me there...12 years later, then returned about 14 months ago.While I believe in purity (of body, mind, and spirit), I have a hard time with being judged by other human beings (what kind of clothes I wear, weather or not my hair is combed or not; whatever). Am I wrong for feeling that my spirit is in someway quelched or, violated, when I'm subjected to comments that make me feel like I'm being judged? Is there "only one path" to recovery from someone prone to addictions?I prefer a gentle road. Your feedback would be appreciated.Gary Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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