Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Dear Amol, Gita says 3.25 " As the unenlightened ,attached to work acts, so should the enlightened act, O descendent of Bharatha, but without attachment, desirous of the well being of the world. " So Gita is clear in saying that it does not matter what we do, what ever we do, we should do it with no attachment. That is Karma yoga. It is our duty to act but not to hanker for results. Results will come in its own way. Even in cut throat competiotion we have to act with calm mind and never worry about results. " Being steadfast in yoga, O Arjuna perform actions, abandoning attachment , remaining unconcerned as reagards success and failure. This eveness of mind is known as yoga " . 2.48 Any action established in Yoga will result in effectiveness and yoga is nothing but Equanimity, mind in perfect balance and in another verse Yoga is explained as efficiency of action. The 2nd and 3rd chapter of Gita clearly explains the way we have to act without attachment and yet get the maximum effectiveness. sarvam vasudevamayam jagath Prashanth > amol bhide <amol_bhide > Re: Desires > > Hi everybody, > Thanks for your enlightening views on the Desires. > I have another question. > Is it good to make material progress & strive to get > best in this world. > If yes, with the current cut-throat competition > wherein people work hard with intense materialistic > desires, > With what desires, intensity & intentions in mind > should he strive & make progress. > Amol > Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Dear Sadhakas, Someone asked Ma Saradadevi, " How can one realize God? " And Ma Saradadevi replied that it was not possible by any means other than " total absence of desires " . The main points here are 1) We are talking of desires in relation to God realization and not in connection with any other thing. And 2) Such absence of desires is not a permanent state, but a short period of time when the pure mind i.e. desireless mind perceives the Self, or Atman, Or God. After coming down to normal human plane of consciousness, desires resurface, but lose their negative appeal or binding nature. They are now like the lines drawn on the water; temporary and never permanent. To talk of desires of Sri Ramakrishna, I would say that but for his prayers to Mother to let him have some desires, it would have been impossible for us to form such groups! Out of compassion that great man of God had prayed to Mother to let him stay in lower level of consciousness, and for that he used to resolve to have minor desires like eating this or that, and even suffering from illnesses that allowed some body consciousness in him. c s shah * http://www.geocities.com/neovedanta http://neovedanta.mybravenet.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Seeta, The Best possible answer for this question comes from Gita 2.55 " When one completely casts away, O Partha, all the desires of the mind, satisfied in the Self alone by the Self, then he or she is said to be one of stady wisdom " 2.55 The first line says cast away all the desires but that is not enough. Casting away desires alone will not help, some thing greater needs to be done and that is " he or she is fully deligted in the Self by the Self " " . Because of this, one doesn't need anything.This is the nature of true and positive renunciation. Since we have something infinite with us, what is use of these petty things and what can they bring to us? Ones we establish our in mind in that supreme being , then what all these desires will be of use. We will be always in that bliss and where is place for numbness. Swamy Ranganathananda has explained clearly these things in his book, " Universal message of Bagavadgita " . You can buy online in www.vedanta.com seetha Re: Desires >Hi all, >I have some doubts in this topic too.. >If one does leave all desires that one has, then what is the essence >of the life that he/she lives..it is like being alive without >feelings.. >one shouldnt have desires for food, cloth and sex..one should not have >attachment towards relatives, friends.. >then what is the point in one's life..if he/she gives up all desires >and just " exists " ? >And if one gives up all desires, he is neither happy nor sad..He/she >is almost numb to everything..! >This is one thing I havent been able to understand for long now Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Namaste, Gita, in its inimitable compassion, says: VII:11 -- dharma aviruddhaH bhuuteshhu kaamaH asmi bharatarshhabha . .....in all beings I am the desire unopposed to Dharma, O Lord of the Bharatas. Regards, Sunder Ramakrishna, Prashanth Godrehal <gprasha> wrote: > The Best possible answer for this question comes from Gita 2.55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 An emperor was coming out of his palace for his morning walk when he met a beggar. He asked the beggar, " What do you want? " The beggar laughed and said, " You are asking me as though you can fulfill my desire! " The king was offended. He said, " Of course I can fulfill your desire. What is it? Just tell me. " And the beggar said, " Think twice before you promise anything. " The beggar was no ordinary beggar, he was the emporer's past life master. He had promised in that life, " I will come and try to wake you in your next life. This life you have missed but I will come again. " But the king had forgotten completely -- who remembers past lives? So he insisted, " I will fulfill anything you ask. I am a very powerful emperor, what can you possibly desire that I can not give to you? " The beggar said, " It is a very simple desire. You see this begging bowl? Can you fill it with something? " The emperor said, " Of course! " He called one of his viziers and told him, " Fill this mans begging bowl with money. " The vizier went and got some money and poured it into the bowl, and it disappeared. And he poured more and more, and the moment he would pour it, it would disappear. And the begging bowl remained always empty. The whole palace gathered. By and by the rumor went throughout the whole capital, and a huge crowd gathered. The prestige of the emperor was at stake. He said to his viziers, " If the whole kingdom is lost, I am ready to lose it, but I cannot be defeated by this beggar. " Diamonds and pearls and emeralds, his treasuries were becoming empty. The begging bowl seemed to be bottomless. Everything that was put into it -- everything! -- immediately disappeared, went out of existence. Finally it was the evening, and the people were standing there in utter silence. The king dropped at the feet of the beggar and admitted his defeat. he said, " Just tell me one thing. You are victorious - but before you leave, just fulfill my curiosity. What is the begging bowl made of? " The beggar laughed and said, " It is made up of the human mind. There is no secret. It is simple made up of human desire. " This understanding transforms life. Go into one desire -- what is the mechanism of it? First there is a great excitement, great thrill, adventure. you feel a great kick. Something is going to happen, you are on the verge of it. And then you have the car, you have the yacht, you have the house, you have the woman, and suddenly all is meaningless again. What happens? Your mind has dematerialized it. The car is standing in the drive, but there is no excitement anymore. The excitement was only in getting it. You became so drunk with the desire that you forgot your inner nothingness. Now the desire is fulfilled, the car in the drive, the woman in your bed, the money in your bank account - again excitement disappears. Again the emptiness is there, ready to eat you up. Again you have to create another desire to escape this yawning abyss. That's how one moves from one desire to another desire. That's how one remains a beggar. Your whole life proves it again and again -- every desire frustrates. And when the goal is achieved, you will need another desire. The day you understand that desire as such is going to fail comes the turning point in your life. The other journey is inwards. move inwards, come back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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