Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Namaste, all!!! The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I saw what I " believe " was a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I " heard " there is one in Pashupatinath Museum. I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is that a Rudraksha? I know people who have them and, no big deal... But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? Best rgds, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Below is Chandrashekharji's response to aadi's question. It is an interesting opinion and nice array of info on the subject. My personal belief is that this type of "object" is not the Ek muhki described in the scriptures and does not qualify for what it represents. It still might have value though. It is tough to say. I don't have an interest in wearing one. I have several that I bought a way back. I think it is just marketing people's response to something sought out by so many, who had neither the means nor the karma to acquire the genuine Ek Muhki. BOM MAHADEV! Surya I have written about Ek Mukhi Cashewnut type rudraksha on different forums many times before. There are total 320 species under the genus Elaeocarpus worldwide. The Ek Mukhi Crescent shaped or Cashewnut shaped or 'Chandrakar' rudraksha is a morphological variation found under the species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. Under the species E. tuberculatus, we get two mukhi flat kite shaped rudraksha as a rule. However, in addition to two mukhi flat beads, we also get our famous crescent shaped ek mukhi, three mukhi flat and four mukhi flat beads. In addtion to the above variations, very rarely we also get one mukhi flat bead (not crescent shaped) and two mukhi crescent shaped or cashewnut shaped rudraksha. I have in my collection all the above types. I got identified the species from the Botanical Survey of India and from the Royal Botanical Garden, England in 2004.The species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus is more common in the South India especially in Tamil Nadu and Kerala and in Sri Lanka. We also get this species in Maharashtra, Karnataka and in the Andhra Pradesh. There are no official reports of this species from the flora of Nepal. However, personally I feel that the species may be available in Nepal since we get high quality large two mukhi and crescent shaped ek mukhi beads with beautiful contorted surface typical of Himalayan rudraksha. It is interesting to note that the flat two mukhi rudraksha are treated as Bhadraksha in the North India. However, the crescent shaped ek mukhi morphological variation is treated as the Ek Mukhi rudraksha. It was mentioned in one of the book that the flat two mukhi beads were commonly used by suphi muslim saints in the earlier days. Presently, in the Indian rudraksha market large no. of fake crescent shaped beads are being sold regularly. I have seen few of such fake beads which are made from fire clay and crushed rudraksha beads. Rudraksha experts can easily identify such fake beads, however, it is very difficult for a common customer to identify such fake beads. Crescent shaped fake ek mukhi beads are sold at the rate of Rs. 150 to Rs. 250/- in the wholesale market and in the range of Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 5000/- in the retail market. It is therefore better to purchase these from a reputed seller. Fake crescent shaped beautiful beads is the recent addtion to the fake bead market. Thanking you and with best wishes,Chandrashekhar Phadke - Richard Shaw-Brown sacred-objects Monday, April 09, 2007 9:15 PM Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? Namaste, all!!!The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I saw what I "believe" was a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I "heard" there is one in Pashupatinath Museum.I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is that a Rudraksha? I know people who have them and, no big deal...But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what???Best rgds,Richard Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/752 - Release 4/8/2007 8:34 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I'll tell you what is what. They might not be round ek mukhis but if someone has the faith enough to wear them then they will notice a fluoresced awareness. sacred-objects [sacred-objects ] On Behalf Of Richard Shaw-Brown Monday, April 09, 2007 10:50 PM sacred-objects Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? Namaste, all!!! The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I saw what I " believe " was a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I " heard " there is one in Pashupatinath Museum. I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is that a Rudraksha? I know people who have them and, no big deal... But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? Best rgds, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Namaste!!! I tend to agree. I'm a believer in Rudraksha and have a good collection since 1975. But I NEVER had one of those " nuts " . Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects , " Mahamuni Das " <mahamuni wrote: > > Below is Chandrashekharji's response to aadi's question. It is an interesting opinion and nice array of info on the subject. > > My personal belief is that this type of " object " is not the Ek muhki described in the scriptures and does not qualify for what it represents. > > It still might have value though. It is tough to say. I don't have an interest in wearing one. I have several that I bought a way back. > > I think it is just marketing people's response to something sought out by so many, who had neither the means nor the karma to acquire the genuine Ek Muhki. > > BOM MAHADEV! > > Surya > > I have written about Ek Mukhi Cashewnut type rudraksha on different forums many times before. There are total 320 species under the genus Elaeocarpus worldwide. The Ek Mukhi Crescent shaped or Cashewnut shaped or 'Chandrakar' rudraksha is a morphological variation found under the species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. Under the species E. tuberculatus, we get two mukhi flat kite shaped rudraksha as a rule. However, in addition to two mukhi flat beads, we also get our famous crescent shaped ek mukhi, three mukhi flat and four mukhi flat beads. In addtion to the above variations, very rarely we also get one mukhi flat bead (not crescent shaped) and two mukhi crescent shaped or cashewnut shaped rudraksha. I have in my collection all the above types. I got identified the species from the Botanical Survey of India and from the Royal Botanical Garden, England in 2004. > > The species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus is more common in the South India especially in Tamil Nadu and Kerala and in Sri Lanka. We also get this species in Maharashtra, Karnataka and in the Andhra Pradesh. There are no official reports of this species from the flora of Nepal. However, personally I feel that the species may be available in Nepal since we get high quality large two mukhi and crescent shaped ek mukhi beads with beautiful contorted surface typical of Himalayan rudraksha. > > It is interesting to note that the flat two mukhi rudraksha are treated as Bhadraksha in the North India. However, the crescent shaped ek mukhi morphological variation is treated as the Ek Mukhi rudraksha. It was mentioned in one of the book that the flat two mukhi beads were commonly used by suphi muslim saints in the earlier days. > > Presently, in the Indian rudraksha market large no. of fake crescent shaped beads are being sold regularly. I have seen few of such fake beads which are made from fire clay and crushed rudraksha beads. Rudraksha experts can easily identify such fake beads, however, it is very difficult for a common customer to identify such fake beads. Crescent shaped fake ek mukhi beads are sold at the rate of Rs. 150 to Rs. 250/- in the wholesale market and in the range of Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 5000/- in the retail market. It is therefore better to purchase these from a reputed seller. Fake crescent shaped beautiful beads is the recent addtion to the fake bead market. > > Thanking you and with best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > - > Richard Shaw-Brown > sacred-objects > Monday, April 09, 2007 9:15 PM > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? > > > Namaste, all!!! > > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I saw what I " believe " was > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I " heard " there is one in > Pashupatinath Museum. > > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is that a Rudraksha? > I know people who have them and, no big deal... > > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? > > Best rgds, > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/752 - Release Date: 4/8/2007 8:34 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Namaste!!! I feel that sacred objects do not require faith to be sacred or powerful. For example, In Garuda Purana it says that if a man wears a poor quality stone, even out of ignorance, still he will suffer disease or loss of fortune. Faith depends on faith, not divya-vastu, like Shalagram, Lakshmi Shank, Rudraksha, Ruby, natural pearl, etc. If one has faith, then there is no need of any objects; and even without faith a divya vastu will act. This is my opinion... other opinions please!!! Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " llundrub " <llundrub wrote: > > I'll tell you what is what. They might not be round ek mukhis but if someone > has the faith enough to wear them then they will notice a fluoresced > awareness. > > > sacred-objects [sacred-objects ] > On Behalf Of Richard Shaw-Brown > Monday, April 09, 2007 10:50 PM > sacred-objects > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? > > Namaste, all!!! > > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I saw what > I " believe " was > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I " heard " > there is one in > Pashupatinath Museum. > > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is that a > Rudraksha? > I know people who have them and, no big deal... > > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? > > Best rgds, > Richard > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Then I suppose you have scientific backing for the claims of sacred object enthusiasts. I cannot remember a physical journal entry for the value of shanks and Shalagrams. People have a problem with the word faith, but it takes faith to often even give something a try. Like for instance, try the mushroom salad Bob, it's great! No thanks Marge, mushrooms are not like chocolate which has natural power, mushrooms have none. But I laugh up my sleeve because you obviously have not had these kinds of mushrooms before. sacred-objects [sacred-objects ] On Behalf Of Richard Shaw-Brown Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:03 AM sacred-objects Re: Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? Namaste!!! I feel that sacred objects do not require faith to be sacred or powerful. For example, In Garuda Purana it says that if a man wears a poor quality stone, even out of ignorance, still he will suffer disease or loss of fortune. Faith depends on faith, not divya-vastu, like Shalagram, Lakshmi Shank, Rudraksha, Ruby, natural pearl, etc. If one has faith, then there is no need of any objects; and even without faith a divya vastu will act. This is my opinion... other opinions please!!! Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " llundrub " <llundrub wrote: > > I'll tell you what is what. They might not be round ek mukhis but if someone > has the faith enough to wear them then they will notice a fluoresced > awareness. > > > sacred-objects [sacred-objects ] > On Behalf Of Richard Shaw-Brown > Monday, April 09, 2007 10:50 PM > sacred-objects > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? > > Namaste, all!!! > > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I saw what > I " believe " was > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I " heard " > there is one in > Pashupatinath Museum. > > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is that a > Rudraksha? > I know people who have them and, no big deal... > > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? > > Best rgds, > Richard > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Mahadev, how beautifully conveyed!!.... think it is just marketing people's response to something sought out by so many, who had neither the means nor the karma to acquire the genuine Ek Muhki. .......wonderful words...surfaces are seldom for real, the oceans always run too deep... my best regards aadi sacred-objects , " Mahamuni Das " <mahamuni wrote: > > Below is Chandrashekharji's response to aadi's question. It is an interesting opinion and nice array of info on the subject. > > My personal belief is that this type of " object " is not the Ek muhki described in the scriptures and does not qualify for what it represents. > > It still might have value though. It is tough to say. I don't have an interest in wearing one. I have several that I bought a way back. > > I think it is just marketing people's response to something sought out by so many, who had neither the means nor the karma to acquire the genuine Ek Muhki. > > BOM MAHADEV! > > Surya > > I have written about Ek Mukhi Cashewnut type rudraksha on different forums many times before. There are total 320 species under the genus Elaeocarpus worldwide. The Ek Mukhi Crescent shaped or Cashewnut shaped or 'Chandrakar' rudraksha is a morphological variation found under the species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. Under the species E. tuberculatus, we get two mukhi flat kite shaped rudraksha as a rule. However, in addition to two mukhi flat beads, we also get our famous crescent shaped ek mukhi, three mukhi flat and four mukhi flat beads. In addtion to the above variations, very rarely we also get one mukhi flat bead (not crescent shaped) and two mukhi crescent shaped or cashewnut shaped rudraksha. I have in my collection all the above types. I got identified the species from the Botanical Survey of India and from the Royal Botanical Garden, England in 2004. > > The species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus is more common in the South India especially in Tamil Nadu and Kerala and in Sri Lanka. We also get this species in Maharashtra, Karnataka and in the Andhra Pradesh. There are no official reports of this species from the flora of Nepal. However, personally I feel that the species may be available in Nepal since we get high quality large two mukhi and crescent shaped ek mukhi beads with beautiful contorted surface typical of Himalayan rudraksha. > > It is interesting to note that the flat two mukhi rudraksha are treated as Bhadraksha in the North India. However, the crescent shaped ek mukhi morphological variation is treated as the Ek Mukhi rudraksha. It was mentioned in one of the book that the flat two mukhi beads were commonly used by suphi muslim saints in the earlier days. > > Presently, in the Indian rudraksha market large no. of fake crescent shaped beads are being sold regularly. I have seen few of such fake beads which are made from fire clay and crushed rudraksha beads. Rudraksha experts can easily identify such fake beads, however, it is very difficult for a common customer to identify such fake beads. Crescent shaped fake ek mukhi beads are sold at the rate of Rs. 150 to Rs. 250/- in the wholesale market and in the range of Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 5000/- in the retail market. It is therefore better to purchase these from a reputed seller. Fake crescent shaped beautiful beads is the recent addtion to the fake bead market. > > Thanking you and with best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > - > Richard Shaw-Brown > sacred-objects > Monday, April 09, 2007 9:15 PM > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? > > > Namaste, all!!! > > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I saw what I " believe " was > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I " heard " there is one in > Pashupatinath Museum. > > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is that a Rudraksha? > I know people who have them and, no big deal... > > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? > > Best rgds, > Richard - ----------- > > > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/752 - Release Date: 4/8/2007 8:34 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 100 cent correct!! I faithfully agree with Richard Sir's opinion. In fact, that's perhaps the truth but I would insist it is. Swayambhu toa swayampratishthit hotay hain!! Rudraksha, Shaligram, Navratnas, Ekakshi, are self-empowered, that is my experience...If you infuse more power into them, they become more powerfula and resonate more powerfully. It is like the difference between Bhagwan Mahadev wearing the 14 Mukhi and any lesser mortal doing the same thing..Perhaps, it is the difference between Kartikeyji going about to circumvent the earth and Ganeshray doing the same by doing the pradakshina of His own mother...So, it boils down to WHO is doing it, How is he doing it, with what intention, Who is doing what...Who is selling, who is buying, who is wearing for what purpose, what is he trying to achieve, One cannot escape the matrix of Karma...Runanubandh plays a lot of role in all such things... aadi sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Namaste!!! > > I feel that sacred objects do not require faith to be sacred or > powerful. For example, In Garuda Purana it says that if a man wears a > poor quality stone, even out of ignorance, still he will suffer > disease or loss of fortune. > > Faith depends on faith, not divya-vastu, like Shalagram, Lakshmi > Shank, Rudraksha, Ruby, natural pearl, etc. If one has faith, then > there is no need of any objects; and even without faith a divya vastu > will act. > > This is my opinion... other opinions please!!! > > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects , " llundrub " llundrub@ wrote: > > > > I'll tell you what is what. They might not be round ek mukhis but if > someone > > has the faith enough to wear them then they will notice a fluoresced > > awareness. > > > > > > sacred-objects > [sacred-objects ] > > On Behalf Of Richard Shaw-Brown > > Monday, April 09, 2007 10:50 PM > > sacred-objects > > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? > > > > Namaste, all!!! > > > > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I > saw what > > I " believe " was > > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I > " heard " > > there is one in > > Pashupatinath Museum. > > > > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is > that a > > Rudraksha? > > I know people who have them and, no big deal... > > > > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 dear friends all holy classics (puranas and upanishads) unanimously say that any rudraksha MUST BE ROUND IN SHAPE. hence this cashewnut shaped rudraksha does not qualify. however, in the absense or less availability due to high price it commands, several people have attributed this cashewnut rudraksha as an alternative or substitute to round ekmukhi. most stone sellers in the country sell semi precious stones who looks like precious stones. if all these jewellers are selling these looklike precious stones for just one hundred to three hundred rupees per carat, it is the belief of the buyer that these cheap looklike colored stones work like the precious stones. hence one shall try to get the genuine round rudraksha which has classical corroboration and substantiation instead of going for cheap alternatives or substitutes. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " aadi291 " <aadi291 wrote: > > > Mahadev, how beautifully conveyed!!.... think it is just marketing > people's response to something sought out by so many, who had > neither the means nor the karma to acquire the genuine Ek Muhki. > ......wonderful words...surfaces are seldom for real, the oceans > always run too deep... > my best regards > aadi > > > sacred-objects , " Mahamuni Das " <mahamuni@> > wrote: > > > > Below is Chandrashekharji's response to aadi's question. It is an > interesting opinion and nice array of info on the subject. > > > > My personal belief is that this type of " object " is not the Ek > muhki described in the scriptures and does not qualify for what it > represents. > > > > It still might have value though. It is tough to say. I don't > have an interest in wearing one. I have several that I bought a way > back. > > > > I think it is just marketing people's response to something sought > out by so many, who had neither the means nor the karma to acquire > the genuine Ek Muhki. > > > > BOM MAHADEV! > > > > Surya > > > > I have written about Ek Mukhi Cashewnut type rudraksha on > different forums many times before. There are total 320 species > under the genus Elaeocarpus worldwide. The Ek Mukhi Crescent shaped > or Cashewnut shaped or 'Chandrakar' rudraksha is a morphological > variation found under the species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. Under > the species E. tuberculatus, we get two mukhi flat kite shaped > rudraksha as a rule. However, in addition to two mukhi flat beads, > we also get our famous crescent shaped ek mukhi, three mukhi flat > and four mukhi flat beads. In addtion to the above variations, very > rarely we also get one mukhi flat bead (not crescent shaped) and two > mukhi crescent shaped or cashewnut shaped rudraksha. I have in my > collection all the above types. I got identified the species from > the Botanical Survey of India and from the Royal Botanical Garden, > England in 2004. > > > > The species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus is more common in the South > India especially in Tamil Nadu and Kerala and in Sri Lanka. We also > get this species in Maharashtra, Karnataka and in the Andhra > Pradesh. There are no official reports of this species from the > flora of Nepal. However, personally I feel that the species may be > available in Nepal since we get high quality large two mukhi and > crescent shaped ek mukhi beads with beautiful contorted surface > typical of Himalayan rudraksha. > > > > It is interesting to note that the flat two mukhi rudraksha are > treated as Bhadraksha in the North India. However, the crescent > shaped ek mukhi morphological variation is treated as the Ek Mukhi > rudraksha. It was mentioned in one of the book that the flat two > mukhi beads were commonly used by suphi muslim saints in the earlier > days. > > > > Presently, in the Indian rudraksha market large no. of fake > crescent shaped beads are being sold regularly. I have seen few of > such fake beads which are made from fire clay and crushed rudraksha > beads. Rudraksha experts can easily identify such fake beads, > however, it is very difficult for a common customer to identify such > fake beads. Crescent shaped fake ek mukhi beads are sold at the rate > of Rs. 150 to Rs. 250/- in the wholesale market and in the range of > Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 5000/- in the retail market. It is therefore > better to purchase these from a reputed seller. Fake crescent shaped > beautiful beads is the recent addtion to the fake bead market. > > > > Thanking you and with best wishes, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > - > > Richard Shaw-Brown > > sacred-objects > > Monday, April 09, 2007 9:15 PM > > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? > > > > > > Namaste, all!!! > > > > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred > object. I saw what I " believe " was > > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And > I " heard " there is one in > > Pashupatinath Museum. > > > > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... > is that a Rudraksha? > > I know people who have them and, no big deal... > > > > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/752 - Release Date: > 4/8/2007 8:34 PM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 This is my opinion... other opinions please!!! -----You guys like splitting hairs. Which has inspired me to - split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 In my poor and limited experience as an ignorant jeeva with rudraksha, I find that they help both expand my faith and complement it. The more experience, the more faith; the more faith, the more experience....michaelaadi291 <aadi291 wrote: 100 cent correct!! I faithfully agree with Richard Sir's opinion. Infact, that's perhaps the truth but I would insist it is. Swayambhu toaswayampratishthit hotay hain!! Rudraksha, Shaligram, Navratnas, Ekakshi,are self-empowered, that is my experience...If you infuse more powerinto them, they become more powerfula and resonate more powerfully. Itis like the difference between Bhagwan Mahadev wearing the 14 Mukhi andany lesser mortal doing the same thing..Perhaps, it is the differencebetween Kartikeyji going about to circumvent the earth and Ganeshraydoing the same by doing the pradakshina of His own mother...So, it boilsdown to WHO is doing it, How is he doing it, with what intention, Who isdoing what...Who is selling, who is buying, who is wearing for whatpurpose, what is he trying to achieve, One cannot escape the matrix ofKarma...Runanubandh plays a lot of role in all such things...aadisacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" <rsbj66wrote:>> Namaste!!!>> I feel that sacred objects do not require faith to be sacred or> powerful. For example, In Garuda Purana it says that if a man wears a> poor quality stone, even out of ignorance, still he will suffer> disease or loss of fortune.>> Faith depends on faith, not divya-vastu, like Shalagram, Lakshmi> Shank, Rudraksha, Ruby, natural pearl, etc. If one has faith, then> there is no need of any objects; and even without faith a divya vastu> will act.>> This is my opinion... other opinions please!!!>> Y/s,> Richard>> sacred-objects , "llundrub" llundrub@ wrote:> >> > I'll tell you what is what. They might not be round ek mukhis but if> someone> > has the faith enough to wear them then they will notice a fluoresced> > awareness.> >> > > > sacred-objects > [sacred-objects ]> > On Behalf Of Richard Shaw-Brown> > Monday, April 09, 2007 10:50 PM> > sacred-objects > > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi?> >> > Namaste, all!!!> >> > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I> saw what> > I "believe" was> > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I> "heard"> > there is one in> > Pashupatinath Museum.> >> > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is> that a> > Rudraksha?> > I know people who have them and, no big deal...> >> > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what???> >> > Best rgds,> > Richard> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 This is like when a shop keeper offered me a yellow topaz as a 2nd quality sapphire. It is not a sapphire at all. Not 2nd, 3rd or 108th quality. It is a topaz. Same thing applies here I believe. Pranams, Surya - panditarjun2004 sacred-objects Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:50 PM Re: Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? dear friendsall holy classics (puranas and upanishads) unanimously say that any rudraksha MUST BE ROUND IN SHAPE. hence this cashewnut shaped rudraksha does not qualify. however, in the absense or less availability due to high price it commands, several people have attributed this cashewnut rudraksha as an alternative or substitute to round ekmukhi. most stone sellers in the country sell semi precious stones who looks like precious stones. if all these jewellers are selling these looklike precious stones for just one hundred to three hundred rupees per carat, it is the belief of the buyer that these cheap looklike colored stones work like the precious stones.hence one shall try to get the genuine round rudraksha which has classical corroboration and substantiation instead of going for cheap alternatives or substitutes.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.comsacred-objects , "aadi291" <aadi291 wrote:>> > Mahadev, how beautifully conveyed!!.... think it is just marketing > people's response to something sought out by so many, who had > neither the means nor the karma to acquire the genuine Ek Muhki.> ......wonderful words...surfaces are seldom for real, the oceans > always run too deep...> my best regards> aadi> > > sacred-objects , "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > wrote:> >> > Below is Chandrashekharji's response to aadi's question. It is an > interesting opinion and nice array of info on the subject.> > > > My personal belief is that this type of "object" is not the Ek > muhki described in the scriptures and does not qualify for what it > represents.> > > > It still might have value though. It is tough to say. I don't > have an interest in wearing one. I have several that I bought a way > back.> > > > I think it is just marketing people's response to something sought > out by so many, who had neither the means nor the karma to acquire > the genuine Ek Muhki.> > > > BOM MAHADEV!> > > > Surya> > > > I have written about Ek Mukhi Cashewnut type rudraksha on > different forums many times before. There are total 320 species > under the genus Elaeocarpus worldwide. The Ek Mukhi Crescent shaped > or Cashewnut shaped or 'Chandrakar' rudraksha is a morphological > variation found under the species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. Under > the species E. tuberculatus, we get two mukhi flat kite shaped > rudraksha as a rule. However, in addition to two mukhi flat beads, > we also get our famous crescent shaped ek mukhi, three mukhi flat > and four mukhi flat beads. In addtion to the above variations, very > rarely we also get one mukhi flat bead (not crescent shaped) and two > mukhi crescent shaped or cashewnut shaped rudraksha. I have in my > collection all the above types. I got identified the species from > the Botanical Survey of India and from the Royal Botanical Garden, > England in 2004.> > > > The species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus is more common in the South > India especially in Tamil Nadu and Kerala and in Sri Lanka. We also > get this species in Maharashtra, Karnataka and in the Andhra > Pradesh. There are no official reports of this species from the > flora of Nepal. However, personally I feel that the species may be > available in Nepal since we get high quality large two mukhi and > crescent shaped ek mukhi beads with beautiful contorted surface > typical of Himalayan rudraksha. > > > > It is interesting to note that the flat two mukhi rudraksha are > treated as Bhadraksha in the North India. However, the crescent > shaped ek mukhi morphological variation is treated as the Ek Mukhi > rudraksha. It was mentioned in one of the book that the flat two > mukhi beads were commonly used by suphi muslim saints in the earlier > days. > > > > Presently, in the Indian rudraksha market large no. of fake > crescent shaped beads are being sold regularly. I have seen few of > such fake beads which are made from fire clay and crushed rudraksha > beads. Rudraksha experts can easily identify such fake beads, > however, it is very difficult for a common customer to identify such > fake beads. Crescent shaped fake ek mukhi beads are sold at the rate > of Rs. 150 to Rs. 250/- in the wholesale market and in the range of > Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 5000/- in the retail market. It is therefore > better to purchase these from a reputed seller. Fake crescent shaped > beautiful beads is the recent addtion to the fake bead market. > > > > Thanking you and with best wishes,> > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > > > - > > Richard Shaw-Brown > > sacred-objects > > Monday, April 09, 2007 9:15 PM> > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi?> > > > > > Namaste, all!!!> > > > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred > object. I saw what I "believe" was > > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And > I "heard" there is one in > > Pashupatinath Museum.> > > > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... > is that a Rudraksha? > > I know people who have them and, no big deal...> > > > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what???> > > > Best rgds,> > Richard> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------> -----------> > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/752 - Release > 4/8/2007 8:34 PM> >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release 4/9/2007 10:59 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Dear All, Most of the Rudraksh dealers don't even mention the origin of half moon eka mukhi. The origin is mentioned for 2 Mukhi onwards, as there is huge cost difference between Nepali beads and Indonesian beads. For instance the 2 mukhi nepli bead is around US$160 whereas Indonesian bead is US$5, as the nepali 2 mukhi beads are produced in less quantity. I got the information from a Nepali dealer that eka mukhi half moon does exist but the quantity produced is around 5 beads in a year. The Nepali half moon shape has natural hole and the mukhi line is at top of crescent. The crescent eka mukhi produced in south and other regions does not have hole and mukhi line is at bottom of crescent. Regards, -Ishwar- sacred-objects , " Mahamuni Das " <mahamuni wrote: > > Below is Chandrashekharji's response to aadi's question. It is an interesting opinion and nice array of info on the subject. > > My personal belief is that this type of " object " is not the Ek muhki described in the scriptures and does not qualify for what it represents. > > It still might have value though. It is tough to say. I don't have an interest in wearing one. I have several that I bought a way back. > > I think it is just marketing people's response to something sought out by so many, who had neither the means nor the karma to acquire the genuine Ek Muhki. > > BOM MAHADEV! > > Surya > > I have written about Ek Mukhi Cashewnut type rudraksha on different forums many times before. There are total 320 species under the genus Elaeocarpus worldwide. The Ek Mukhi Crescent shaped or Cashewnut shaped or 'Chandrakar' rudraksha is a morphological variation found under the species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. Under the species E. tuberculatus, we get two mukhi flat kite shaped rudraksha as a rule. However, in addition to two mukhi flat beads, we also get our famous crescent shaped ek mukhi, three mukhi flat and four mukhi flat beads. In addtion to the above variations, very rarely we also get one mukhi flat bead (not crescent shaped) and two mukhi crescent shaped or cashewnut shaped rudraksha. I have in my collection all the above types. I got identified the species from the Botanical Survey of India and from the Royal Botanical Garden, England in 2004. > > The species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus is more common in the South India especially in Tamil Nadu and Kerala and in Sri Lanka. We also get this species in Maharashtra, Karnataka and in the Andhra Pradesh. There are no official reports of this species from the flora of Nepal. However, personally I feel that the species may be available in Nepal since we get high quality large two mukhi and crescent shaped ek mukhi beads with beautiful contorted surface typical of Himalayan rudraksha. > > It is interesting to note that the flat two mukhi rudraksha are treated as Bhadraksha in the North India. However, the crescent shaped ek mukhi morphological variation is treated as the Ek Mukhi rudraksha. It was mentioned in one of the book that the flat two mukhi beads were commonly used by suphi muslim saints in the earlier days. > > Presently, in the Indian rudraksha market large no. of fake crescent shaped beads are being sold regularly. I have seen few of such fake beads which are made from fire clay and crushed rudraksha beads. Rudraksha experts can easily identify such fake beads, however, it is very difficult for a common customer to identify such fake beads. Crescent shaped fake ek mukhi beads are sold at the rate of Rs. 150 to Rs. 250/- in the wholesale market and in the range of Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 5000/- in the retail market. It is therefore better to purchase these from a reputed seller. Fake crescent shaped beautiful beads is the recent addtion to the fake bead market. > > Thanking you and with best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > - > Richard Shaw-Brown > sacred-objects > Monday, April 09, 2007 9:15 PM > Is Ekamukhi an Ekamukhi? > > > Namaste, all!!! > > The nut shaped Rudraksha, I do not know if it is a sacred object. I saw what I " believe " was > a real Ekamukhi shown me in 1974 by late Kali Baba of Nepal. And I " heard " there is one in > Pashupatinath Museum. > > I personally do not understand about the nut shaped Rudraksha... is that a Rudraksha? > I know people who have them and, no big deal... > > But Ekamukhi IS a BIG DEAL. So, what is what??? > > Best rgds, > Richard -- ---------- > > > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/752 - Release Date: 4/8/2007 8:34 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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