Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 dear abhishekji as mentioned in my previous mail in this group, i have closed the thread on round ek mukhi and my future posts will only be on sharing and learning the subject of rudrakha in general. as regards higher mukhis finding no mention in scriptures, my objective is only to learn from the other learnt researchers if they came across any references. i requested for this information in a humble manner admitting that i failed in finding such, after doing enough homework. of course any thing that is available in the world will be traded or made available at a price and no one has any problem with that. my only interest is to learn or know references of the higher mukhis viz. 15 and above mukhis. as regards prices, we are living in a market driven world scenario where market dynamics viz. demand supply gap come to force. rudraksha have gained popularity all over the world and hence naturally all kinds of rudraksha will be available in the market at a price. it would be prudent on the part of all of us if we desist discussing price matters as it create misunderstandings among the members. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote: > > Panditji Sadar Namaskar & Charan Vandana... > > I humbly submit sir that as a devotee & not for re-sale rudraksha collector, your fixation for selling round one mukhi intrigues me. > > I am a humble trustee of if not the best, yet, one of the better Rudraksha Collections in this world. I fully concur with your hypothesis that Higher Mukhis (commonly read as 15-21 mukhis) have no scriptural reference & if i may add material utility. But you may agree that modern life is not lead out of a textbook. So if nature produces certain special beads & if they fall in the hands of traders,, they shall be traded... > > Yet till 1997, higher mukhis were not as " hot " & compared to today's standard.., one can safely say, not hot at all. If i have my facts right a Siddha Mala of so called collector giant beads costed Rs 12,000 in 1998. Today it would be around Rs 2,00,000 (wholesale) for the same bead quality. But these are market trends & one has to consume the same, abeit with a pinch of salt. > > In my over 13 years of valued (atleast i value it) experience as a collector, i have come across many a wannabe Round One Mukhi's, but i can state it to be an absolute fact that none measured up as genuine one mukhi. Infact most of the reputed dealers maintained that they have never seen a genuine round one mukhi, what to say of trading in one. > > But now it seems, that with an upsurge in the demand of Rudraksha globally, nature has decided to produce ek mukhi gol dana's. Seven, in a year i guess... or maybe more > > In my humble opinion, a learned soul like you (i am not a face- reader but it feels as though your roots, have tasted the fire pits of sprituality..) should desist from promoting round eka mukhi. > > Just a humble request, > Abhishek > > There are somethings money can't buy for everything else, there is.... > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear ishwarji > > firstly i appreciate you for endorsing a fact that round ek mukhi is > available, even if it is only 2 or 3 beads per annum. > > i heard few documents are available in the archives of some > newspapers where NEPAL KING, as the head of the governemnt of nepal > has gifted round ek mukhi rudraksha. i am trying to get these > published facts made available and make the world aware that this > round ek mukhi has been in existence all along albeit not available > for comman man. > > brother richardji who is an established authority in the sacred > objects market in the world, is also sticking to his repeated stand > of respected kalibabaji having the round ek mukhi. > > one senior member of this group too mentioned having seen the round > ek mukhi rudraksha at pasupatinath mandir. > > so it is now an established truth and fact that ROUND EK MUKHI > RUDRAKSHA DOES EXIST AND IT IS NOT A MYTH. so all those who are > saying even today that round ek mukhi rudrakha is a myth, must > correct themselves that it is not a myth and it does exist. of > course we can debate and present truth and facts on its availability > or non-availability in the second stage. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwarn@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I have taken following production details from rudrakshanepal.com, > > which clearly indicates that only 2 to 3 Nos of 1 Mukhi round beads > > are produced per year and every year more than specified nos of 1 > > mukhi round sold. From these figures one can easily conclude that > > there is lot of manipulation in the Rudraksha market and one should > > rely on the test for costly beads, just like we do for gems. In my > > opinion, nobody would put geniune Eka Mukhi Gol dana for sale. > > > > > > > > In overall, the quantity of Rudrakshas produced which has the > > following trend since 50 years..... > > 1 face- 2 to 3 pieces > > 2 face- around 100 pieces > > 3 face- around 2000 pieces > > 4 face,5 face,6 face -more than 1 million pieces > > 7 face- not more than 20 thousand pieces > > 8 face- to 12 face- around 2000 pieces > > 13 face- not more than 600 pieces > > 14 face and 15 face- not more than 200 pieces each > > 16 face and 17 face- not more than 30 pieces > > 18 face,19 face and twenty face-less than 10 pieces > > 21 face- not more than 2 pieces > > Gaurishankar- 2000 pieces > > Ganesh Rudraksha- 5000 pieces > > Trijuti- not more than 5 pieces > > Higher mukhis – Extremely rare, with at most 1 or 2 pieces produced > > > > Om Tat Sat. > > -ishwar- > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear amitji > > > > > > the mail to you was written in the group 48 hours before but it > > > appeared after two days and hence i called you in the middle. > > > > > > here is the truth based on facts: > > > > > > 1. mukundaji sold ek mukh rudraksha for few lakhs of rupees > earlier. > > > 2. agarwalji is stil selling this ek mukh rudraksha for few lakhs. > > > 3. you made a definite statement in your mail that you have seen > > the > > > same round ek mukh rudraksha with sanjay agarwal for rs.1700 > which > > is > > > false. > > > 3.1. when i called you, you mentioned that it was HEARSAY and you > > > have seen these at a shop in chandnichowk and that shopowner has > > told > > > you that he got these from sanjay agarwal. > > > 3.2. i called that chandnichowk supplier and mr.sanjay agarwal > > > visited this shopowner and called me from that place as well and > > both > > > have confirmed that this chandnichowk supplier has bought these > > > SIMILAR round ek mukh rudraksha from SOMEONE ELSE and not from > > > agarwal rudraksha. > > > > > > hope members note this truth. > > > > > > writing in public groups based on HEARSAY words instead of having > > > seen first hand is not truth. here, i appreciate ishwarji of > > > bangalore when he said he was shown by agarwalji same beads for a > > > couple of lakhs earlier which sanjay agarwalji too confirmed. > what > > > ishwarji said about sanjay agarwal is truth and what you said is > > > false. > > > > > > truth remains truth when heard from the supplier, buyer or the > > third > > > person. > > > > > > most of those criticising this round rudraksha have bought > millions > > > of rupees worth other rudraksha from these two suppliers and are > > > still buying. if they all, including you, feel that these two > > > reputed wholesale suppliers have sold fake beads of round ek mukh > > > rudraksha and are still selling the same, what credibility you > all > > > place on the other rudrakshas that you all bought from them. > > > > > > hence i made it a point to mention the source and give the > contact > > > details of the supplier so that the buyer has a right to know > from > > > where i got these rudraksha and whether that supplier is > > trustworthy > > > or not. > > > > > > by the way my supplier has given 100% buyback guarantee for > > genuinity > > > of the round ek mukh rudraksha and even in the worst case of a > > > customer returning on not getting satisfied of the genuinity, the > > > customer would get the full amount refunded. hence my customers > > dont > > > worry about the genuinity as he gets a genuine product or he gets > > > 100% money refunded. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > sacred-objects , " amit uniyal " <devshoppe@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji, > > > > I find ur behaviour bit strange.Yesterday morning at 7' am u > > called > > > > me and talked to me for around 1 hour.During our conversation u > > > > agreeed 1000 times, that u have bought these beads for high > > prices. > > > > I also said that i will arrange these beads for u in just 2000, > > and > > > > finally u thanked me. > > > > Now, today u r posting this message in group.I can see only > these > > > > reasons for this posting:- > > > > > > > > (1) You dont want ur customers to read my earlier post. > > > > (2) You have bought and are selling these on killing prices. > > > > (3) You fear that people will know the real prices and this may > > > harm > > > > you. > > > > (4) As far as Nepa Rudraksha is concerned, MR Mukunda sold > these > > > > beads when no1 else was selling, he collected lakhs and when he > > > > found that some of his competitors are selling it for thousands > > of > > > > rupee, he stopped selling these . > > > > (5) Now, i will arrange these beads and will upload the pics in > > > this > > > > group itself....so that people can understand that the bead for > > > > which they are spending lakhs of rupee can be available in just > > > > thousands. > > > > > > > > Thank u > > > > Amit uniyal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend amit > > > > > > > > > > as you may be aware i bought these round ek mukh rudraksha > from > > > > shri > > > > > sanjay agarwalji and he denies having ever seen or sold a > round > > > ek > > > > > mukh rudraksha for the amounts rs.1500 to rs.2000. I have > > spoken > > > > to > > > > > him on his showing these beads to you and he denies having > ever > > > > seen > > > > > or shown such beads to you. > > > > > > > > > > sine i am procuring my rudraksha from him and he is denying > > this > > > > > availability of a couple of thousand rupees worth round ek > mukh > > > > > rudraksha, could you please advise where you have seen these > > 1500 > > > > > rupees worth round ek mukh rudraksha. > > > > > > > > > > members may remember that last year even neparudraksha has > > posted > > > > in > > > > > their website the round ek mukh rudrksha and sold for some > five > > > > lakhs > > > > > or so. now the same is not available in their website. they > > are > > > > > also a leading wholesale suppliers of rudraksha to many > > retailers. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " amit uniyal " > > <devshoppe@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Bhairav! > > > > > > I strongly agree with shri Rajiv Dasa ji,I have seen such > > beads > > > > > with > > > > > > sanjay agarwal of agarwal rudraksha and such beads were > > > > available > > > > > > for Rs 1500-2000 when i last saw these (without gold > capping). > > > > > > Few of these were capped in gold ( Rs 3500 - Rs 4000 ) to > > hide > > > > the > > > > > > starting of other lines. > > > > > > I saw some seller buying these for few rupees and selling > > these > > > > for > > > > > > lakhs. > > > > > > I agree that these are real beads, but you cant say that > > these > > > > are > > > > > > pure ek mukhis, these are undeveloped 4 or 5 mukhis and > hence > > > > not > > > > > > suitable for wearing. > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > amit uniyal > > > > > > www.devshoppe.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Shaligram Shala > > > > > > <shaligram8@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Har Har Mahadev, > > > > > > > Prabhu your mail is very informative and thanks for the > > > > same. > > > > > > > Most reapectfully, without hurting anybody's > centiments, > > I > > > > am > > > > > > differeing on your point no. 5 or Myth no. 5. > > > > > > > Sir, undevloped Nepalese round 4 Mukhis or 5 Mukhis > > which > > > > have > > > > > > only one clear line as Mukh are abundantly available in > Nepal > > > > for > > > > > > Rs. 2000 /- only, The people are selling them for even 41 > > > Lakhs, > > > > > the > > > > > > other day I read in the newspaper, where the picture of > that > > > > > > Rudraksha was given and it has been pendalled with > diamonds, > > > > gold > > > > > > and Ruby stones. The exact one Mukhi round Nepalese will > be > > > > that > > > > > > Rudraksha which will have one seed or one Loculaii inside. > So > > > > you > > > > > > stating that the Rudraksha available for 5 Lakhs has one > > > > Loculaii > > > > > or > > > > > > one seed then I would like to have 1 atleast if you can > > supply > > > > me. > > > > > > This can be easily cheked by X-Ray. > > > > > > > During our Rudraksha exhibition at Hydrabad and Chennai > > > > > recently > > > > > > we came across two devotees bringing these underdevloped > > > > Rudrakshas > > > > > > with only one Mukh clearly available and seen, but on > seeing > > > the > > > > X > > > > > > Ray picture we proved to those devotees that actually the > > > > Rudraksha > > > > > > had 4 seeds and what they were wearing was an under > developed > > 4 > > > > > > Mukhi round Nepalese Rudraksha for which they paid some 1.5 > > > Laks > > > > > > Rupees or more each. > > > > > > > Tactfully the supplier cap the underdeveloped Rudraksha > > in > > > > such > > > > > > a way that four or five lines which actually begin in an > > > > > > underdevloped bead are hidden and the devotee is shown only > > one > > > > > line > > > > > > or one developed line of the 4 Mukhi Rudraksha. > > > > > > > I had the previledge to see the Rudrakshas of King of > > Nepal > > > > and > > > > > > the one which has been kept in the Pashupati Nath Temple > > which > > > > is > > > > > > shown to the devotees only once a year, " now I think for > the > > > > past > > > > > > few years, the one Mukhi showing to devotees has been > > stopped " , > > > > > that > > > > > > I saw around 5 years back. They had some power when I held > > them > > > > on > > > > > > my hand, but I am not really sure that if X Ray is taken > for > > > > them > > > > > > they will show one seed only. > > > > > > > So devotees are advised that before spending 5 Lakhs > > Rupees > > > > or > > > > > > more pl it will be wise to spend another Rs. 200 or 300 for > > an > > > X > > > > > Ray > > > > > > and atleast let us confirm that the one we are buying for > so > > > > huge > > > > > > price is actually the real one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > > > > > > WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ek mukh rudraksha is the most sought after and most > > enquired > > > > > > > rudraksha so much so that any layman who approaches a > > > > > > rudrakshaseller > > > > > > > has his first enquiry on an ek mukh rudraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us first see as to how many types of ek mukh > rudraksha > > > are > > > > > > > available or made available by the rudraksha sellers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Half Moon Shaped or Kaju (Cashewnut) Shaped Ek Mukh > > Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This particular bead comes from a tree that belongs to > > > similar > > > > > > > species of rudraksha. But this shape is alien to what is > > > > > > prescribed > > > > > > > in the sacred texts. Since all puranas unanimously > mention > > > > that a > > > > > > > rudraksha must be round in shape, this crescent shaped > bead > > > > does > > > > > > not > > > > > > > conform to this basic shape requirement of a rudraksha. > > > > However, > > > > > > > since this rudraksha costs only a couple of thousand > > rupees, > > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > the most selling rudraksha, especially by all TV shops. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oval Shaped Ek Mukh Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oval shaped three mukh rudraksha are grown abundantly in > > the > > > > > > > Himalayas in Uttarkhand and few of these beads find only > > one > > > > line > > > > > > in > > > > > > > it. Traders in Haridwar are found to be creating oval ek > > mukh > > > > > > > rudraksha from an oval three mukh rudraksha. Some oval > > shaped > > > > ek > > > > > > > mukh rudraksha also come from the Indonesian islands. > Since > > > > the > > > > > > > shastras prescribe a rudraksha which must be round in > > shape, > > > > this > > > > > > > oval shape too found no favour with rudraksha lovers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Round Ek Mukh Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Round Ek Mukh Rudraksha is available only from Nepal. > Here > > > are > > > > > > many > > > > > > > myths surrounding the round ek mukh rudraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myth # 1. Ek mukh rudraksha comes from a separate tree > > which > > > > > > produces > > > > > > > only one rudraksha bead that too only once a year. > > > > > > > Truth is that there is no separate tree for ek mukh > > rudraksha > > > > and > > > > > > all > > > > > > > rudraksha trees yield or produce hundreds of rudraksha > > every > > > > > year. > > > > > > > Any round rudraksha that has only one line naturally > > > developed > > > > > > with > > > > > > > no other lines is a genuine round ek mukh rudraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myth # 2. Ek mukh rudraksha contains symbols of serpent, > > > > > shivling, > > > > > > > nandi, trident and om on it. > > > > > > > Truth is that all these symbols are artificially crafted > by > > > > > > cheaters > > > > > > > who sell on roadside shops at all pilgrim places across > > India > > > > to > > > > > > > gullible devotees. Round ek mukh rudraksha does not > contain > > > > any > > > > > of > > > > > > > these symbols at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myth # 3. Ek mukh rudraksha if worn by a person becomes a > > > king > > > > or > > > > > > in > > > > > > > modern parlance a minister, chief minister, governor or > > prime > > > > > > > minister. > > > > > > > Truth is that the Nepalese king who used to have several > > > round > > > > ek > > > > > > > mukh rudraksha had earlier gifted few of them to the > > visiting > > > > > > heads > > > > > > > of state and also to few richest and influential people > who > > > > seek > > > > > > > them. Hence it became visibly worn by the rich and > famous. > > > > > > Nowadays > > > > > > > democracy is restored in Nepal and the local farmers who > > have > > > > few > > > > > > > round ek mukh rudraksha beads are making them available > to > > > any > > > > > > person > > > > > > > who can afford it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myth # 4. Ek mukh rudraksha does not exist at all. > > > > > > > Truth is that it is very much available and I have myself > > > made > > > > > > > available few round ek mukh rudraksha to discerning > > devotees. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myth # 5. Ek mukh rudraksha costs several millions of > > rupees > > > > and > > > > > > is > > > > > > > beyond the dream of a layman. > > > > > > > Truth is that the high price is more of a hype created in > > the > > > > > > minds > > > > > > > of innocent buyers. Last year I made this available for > > just > > > > > three > > > > > > > lakhs rupees. Presently this is available for just five > > lakhs > > > > > > rupees. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Myth # 6. Ek mukh rudraksha if worn by any native gets > the > > > > best > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > Truth is that Shivapurana clearly mentions that this > round > > ek > > > > > mukh > > > > > > > rudraksha needs to be worshipped. Albeit in the previous > > > > > chapters, > > > > > > > there was a general mention of all rudraksha to be worn, > > > while > > > > > > > narrating each type of rudraksha, lord shiva clearly > > mentions > > > > the > > > > > > > native getting results of ek mukh rudraksha where it is > > > > > worshipped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shivapurana, Vidyesvara Samhita, 25th Chapter, 63 and 64 > > > > verses: > > > > > > > Ekavaktram Shivah Saakshaat bhaktimuktiphalaprada: Tasya > > > > > > > darshanamatrena brahmahatya vyapohati. > > > > > > > Yatra sampoojitastatra lakshmirdooratara nahi. > > > > Nashyanupadrava: > > > > > > > Sarve sarvakama bhavanti hi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ek Mukh Rudraksha itself is lord shiva. It confers both > > > bhakti > > > > > and > > > > > > > mukti. Just by seeing it, one gets rid of the sin of > > > > brahmahatya. > > > > > > > WHERE IT IS WORSHIPPED, lakshmi (goddess of wealth) > dwells > > > > there > > > > > > and > > > > > > > never leaves that place. All problems in that area are > > > solved. > > > > > All > > > > > > > desires of the native are fulfilled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This mail in public groups is intended only for awareness > > and > > > > to > > > > > > > present the truth vs myths surrounding this most sought > > after > > > > > > > rudraksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best wishes and blessings > > > > > > > Pandit arjun > > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > > > > someone > > > > > > who knows. > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.