is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

November 12, 2007

Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It is artificial

glass. Y/s, Richard

sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil wrote:

>

> Richard sir,

> can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-

> http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg

> there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me that

> this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.

>

November 12, 2007

thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have

nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent

so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg

they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at

all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find

sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

<rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It

is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard

>

> sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:

> >

> > Richard sir,

> > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-

> > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg

> > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me

that

> > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.

> >

>

November 12, 2007

These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out

glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and

certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of " naga mani. "

If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s,

Richard

sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil wrote:

>

> thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have

> nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent

> so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg

> http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg

> they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at

> all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find

> sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

> <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It

> is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard

> >

> > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Richard sir,

> > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-

> > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg

> > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me

> that

> > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.

> > >

> >

>

November 12, 2007

Hello Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India. That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original Regards Ranganath International Business Partner BangaloreRichard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You

cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richardsacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil wrote:>> thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> ---

In sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > >> > > Richard sir,> > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > that> > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > >> >>

November 12, 2007

Richard / Knowledgers Could you Please review this link and suggest the Group http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html Regards Ranganath International Business Partner Bangalore Ranganath P <askranga wrote: Hello Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India. That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original Regards Ranganath International Business Partner BangaloreRichard Shaw-Brown

<rsbj66 wrote: These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richardsacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil wrote:>> thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they

claim to have > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > >> > > Richard sir,> > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > that> > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > >> >>

November 12, 2007

Dear all, Namaste!!! I cannot comment on companies. If anyone wants to buy

anything valuable then they should require a guarantee and an ID certificate.

Best wishes, Richard

sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga wrote:

>

> Richard / Knowledgers

>

> Could you Please review this link and suggest the Group

>

> http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html

>

> Regards

> Ranganath

> International Business Partner

> Bangalore

>

> Ranganath P <askranga wrote:

> Hello

>

> Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public,

> Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India.

>

> That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or

Original

>

> Regards

> Ranganath

> International Business Partner

> Bangalore

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate

ruling out

glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and

certificate.

This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of " naga mani. " If they

can't PROVE it

then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard

>

> sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have

> > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent

> > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg

> > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg

> > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at

> > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find

> > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

> > <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It

> > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Richard sir,

> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-

> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg

> > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me

> > that

> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

November 12, 2007

Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of " Naga mani " ? Is Nagamani

mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!

sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga wrote:

>

> Hello

>

> Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public,

> Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India.

>

> That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or

Original

>

> Regards

> Ranganath

> International Business Partner

> Bangalore

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate

ruling out

glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and

certificate.

This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of " naga mani. " If they

can't PROVE it

then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard

>

> sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have

> > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent

> > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg

> > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg

> > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at

> > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find

> > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

> > <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It

> > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Richard sir,

> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-

> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg

> > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me

> > that

> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.

> > > >

> > >

>

November 12, 2007

another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth perpetrated by the fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till after he realises he was defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what law is it banned?Menon

sacred-objects From: rsbj66Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga mani"? Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Check out some new online services at Windows Live Ideas—so new they haven’t even been officially released yet. Try it!

November 12, 2007

wow. So Indians are not the only fools!!Menon

sacred-objects From: rsbj66Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:20:08 +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

Dear all, Namaste!!! I cannot comment on companies. If anyone wants to buy anything valuable then they should require a guarantee and an ID certificate. Best wishes, Richardsacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga wrote:>> Richard / Knowledgers> > Could you Please review this link and suggest the Group> > http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html> > > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Ranganath P <askranga wrote:> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the new ! Try it!

November 13, 2007

Certainly not! Some faithful Indians may be fooled by Indian things, like bogus

Nagamani, but other peoples are fooled by other things of their own cultures.

That is all. Certainly Indians are not fools. In fact, Hindus are the most

highly philosophical people on Earth,

Y/s, Richard

sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:

>

> wow. So Indians are not the only fools!!Menon

>

> sacred-objects: rsbj66: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:20:08 +0000Subject:

[sacred-

objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

>

> Dear all, Namaste!!! I cannot comment on companies. If anyone wants to buy

anything

valuable then they should require a guarantee and an ID certificate. Best

wishes,

Richardsacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>>

Richard / Knowledgers> > Could you Please review this link and suggest the

Group> >

http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html> > > Regards> Ranganath>

International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>

Hello>

> Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned by Govt.

Of

India.> > That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune

or

Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> >

Richard

Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide

a gem

certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy

without

guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak

of " naga

mani. " If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot).

Y/s, Richard> >

sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > thanks

for

replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of different

types for

example these are not transparent > > so are they fake

too?http://i19.tinypic.com/

85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg

http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > >

they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > > all as

there are

lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > sacred-

objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > >

Sir,

real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial

glass. Y/s,

Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@>

wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a

real

nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of

fake

nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani

please

confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > >

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November 13, 2007

I AGREE!!!

sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:

>

> another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth perpetrated by the

fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till after he

realises he was

defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what law is it

banned?

Menon

>

> sacred-objects: rsbj66: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 +0000Subject:

[sacred-

objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

>

> Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of " Naga mani " ? Is

Nagamani

mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-objects , Ranganath

P

<askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since

it has

been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are

Sale May

not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business

Partner>

Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get

the

seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other

ID? You

cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal

stones, what to

speak of " naga mani. " If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to

an idiot). Y/

s, Richard> > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:>

>> >

thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of

different

types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake too?http://

i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg

http://i7.tinypic.com/

71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them

at > >

all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > --- In

sacred-

objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > >

Sir,

real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial

glass. Y/s,

Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@>

wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a

real

nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of

fake

nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani

please

confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >

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Wow! Going by this website it looks like cobra pearls are as common as cobra eggs Best, JayRanganath P <askranga wrote: Richard / Knowledgers Could you Please review this link and suggest the Group http://www.bezoarmustikapearls.com/cobra.html Regards Ranganath International Business Partner Bangalore Ranganath P <askranga (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hello Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India. That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original Regards Ranganath International Business Partner BangaloreRichard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to

speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richardsacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil wrote:>> thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > >> > > Richard sir,> > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > that> > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > >> >>

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Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very very very common http://www.manizone.co.uk/ Best Regards, JayRichard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: I AGREE!!!sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:>> another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth perpetrated by the

fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till after he realises he was defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what law is it banned?Menon> > > sacred-objects: rsbj66: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga mani"? Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard

Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani

from cobra but cant believe them at > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani

please confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________> Check out some new online services at Windows Live Ideas—so new they haven't even been officially released yet.> http://www.msnspecials.in/windowslive/>

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November 13, 2007

dear friends

some mischief mongers and jealous amateurs try to plant myths to

scare the genuine customers from buying sacred objects from

trustworthy people like us.

for example when i posted the photo of a genuine siyar singhi last

year, few people shouted selling banned animals product after which i

produced the relevent portions from the indian wildlife act excepting

vermin wherein this finds mention. similarly peacock feathers can

also be traded freely as they are not banned.

there is no ban on killing or trading a snake or snake product.

snakecharming is a profession which is not banned. some snakes like

python are now reared as pets by some elite people. poison extracted

from snakes is purchased and used by various pharmaceutical

companies. in some northeastern states, snakes are displayed in

their restaurants where they are cooked and served. so selling a

snake or a part of a snake is not banned in india.

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:

>

> another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth

perpetrated by the fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking

about it till after he realises he was defrauded. Can anyone show the

notification? and pray, under what law is it banned?Menon

>

> sacred-objects: rsbj66: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35

+0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo

included

>

> Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of " Naga mani " ?

Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-

objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> >

Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned

by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are

Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath>

International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown

<rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide

a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID?

You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even

with normal stones, what to speak of " naga mani. " If they can't PROVE

it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > ---

In sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> >

thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > >

nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent >

> so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > >

http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg >

> they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at

> > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to

find> > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " >

> <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I

have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > >

> > > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@>

wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether

this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> >

> > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > >

that> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > > >> > >>

>> > > > > > > Do

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Like the " limbo dance " - how LOW can you GO! They have MANY " Cloud Pearls " - but

if you test with a lab and prove " artifical glass " then what is their refund

policy?

sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi wrote:

>

> Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very very very common

> http://www.manizone.co.uk/

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Jay

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> I AGREE!!!

>

> sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:

> >

> > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth perpetrated by

the

> fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till after he

realises he was

> defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what law is it

banned?

> Menon

> >

> > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 +0000Subject:

[sacred-

> objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

> >

> > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of " Naga mani " ? Is

Nagamani

> mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-objects ,

Ranganath P

> <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, >

Since it

has

> been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which

are Sale

May

> not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business

Partner>

> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get

the

> seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any

other ID? You

> cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal

stones, what

to

> speak of " naga mani. " If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except

to an idiot).

Y/

> s, Richard> > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@>

wrote:> >>

>

> thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis

of different

> types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake too?http://

> i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://

i7.tinypic.com/

> 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe

them at >

>

> all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > ---

In sacred-

> objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > >

Sir,

> real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is

artificial glass. Y/s,

> Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@>

> wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is

a real

> nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of

fake

> nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani

please

> confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >

> > > Tired of

spam?

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November 13, 2007

Ha Ha ha!!! Too true!!! I cannot imagine how these fraudulant companies can be

allowed to exist. Rama teri maya!!!

sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:

>

> wow!! and they are cheap too!! the Nag mani is supposed to cost CRORES!! here

they can

be had for a few thousands!! Maybe I will order a few hundred and sell each for

crores!!

What sayest my friends? I will also say that it is banned so that no one can

talk about it. It

is secret and as soon as we speak of it or show it to anyone the magical power

will

evaporate and make it just glass or semi precious stone or even just granite or

clay. I think

it is a good strategy.Menon

>

> sacred-objects: jaymunshi: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:49:17 -0800Subject:

Re:

Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

>

> Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very very very common

> http://www.manizone.co.uk/

>

> Best Regards,

>

> JayRichard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> I AGREE!!!sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

wrote:>> another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth perpetrated

by the

fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till after he

realises he was

defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what law is it

banned?

Menon> > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 +0000Subject:

Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > > > Wow! Does

the Govt

of India recognize the existance of " Naga mani " ? Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian

law?

Wow!!!sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>>

Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned

by Govt. Of

India.> > That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune

or

Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> >

Richard

Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide

a gem

certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy

without

guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak

of " naga

mani. " If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot).

Y/s, Richard> >

sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > thanks

for

replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of different

types for

example these are not transparent > > so are they fake

too?http://i19.tinypic.com/

85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg

http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > >

they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > > all as

there are

lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > sacred-

objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > >

Sir,

real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial

glass. Y/s,

Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@>

wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a

real

nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of

fake

nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani

please

confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >

> > Tired of

spam?

Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > >

> >

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November 13, 2007

There a number of places in Batam Island, (Near Singapore ) and

central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun, which manufacture

Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as referred by other members in

this thread.....

How are they made ?

Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or cast iron tubs of 12-16

inches are filled with tungsten metal granules and dust (discarded

scraps from oil drilling industry)into these tubes or tubes depending

on ball shape required or egg shapped required.

The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are put into these tupes or tubs

and tumbled by agitation on an agitator machine.

The agitator machines are about 12 feet to 12 feet wide and these

tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator. An agitator machine is like

those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in Indian Rice mills or Thai Rice

mills, except there is no gale force Fans blowing away the lighter

husks.

In case of a coconut pearl, these are made from Marine Coconut snail

shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5 inches thick shell, (common in

the seas of east java and east sumatra Indian ocean coastlines.

When right size is obtained, these pearls are carved with lines and a

bun like hump on one side which is smaller and lightly agitated again

to remove human workings on it.

When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls are boiled in coconut milk

(as used in curry) but with all the coconut gratings, for few days.

The strong smell of coconut willl linger for months from the coconut

pearls and when soaked into hot water will emit the coconut milk

fragances. This is how the challenged test is done.

The real piece of coconut pearl is a harden piece of mixed coconut

butters with a oval elongated shape that give a smell of fresh

coconut oil tin opened for years and years. For example the piece

displayed in Brunei istana museum, decorated with gold and diamonds

Bamboo pearls are like small pieces of white milky hailstones and

called Bamboo Salt in Harbin (northern china), in fact they are salt

crystals and this bamboo is grown and harvested for its salts...

Hope this info is useful

sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

<rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Like the " limbo dance " - how LOW can you GO! They have MANY " Cloud

Pearls " - but if you test with a lab and prove " artifical glass " then

what is their refund policy?

>

> sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@>

wrote:

> >

> > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very very

very common

> > http://www.manizone.co.uk/

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Jay

> >

> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > I AGREE!!!

> >

> > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth

perpetrated by the

> > fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till

after he realises he was

> > defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what

law is it banned?

> > Menon

> > >

> > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35

+0000[sacred-

> > objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

> > >

> > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of " Naga

mani " ? Is Nagamani

> > mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-

objects , Ranganath P

> > <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in

Public, > Since it

> has

> > been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the

items which are Sale

> May

> > not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International

Business Partner>

> > Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are

glass. Why not get

> the

> > seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known

stones, or any other ID? You

> > cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even

with normal stones, what

> to

> > speak of " naga mani. " If they can't PROVE it then they cannot

sell it (except to an idiot).

> Y/

> > s, Richard> > sacred-objects , " Raj "

<raj_maiil@> wrote:> >>

> >

> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have >

> nagamanis of different

> > types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake

too?http://

> > i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg

http://

> i7.tinypic.com/

> > 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but

cant believe them at >

> >

> > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to

find> > sacred-

> > objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@>

wrote:> > >> > >

> Sir,

> > real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > >

is artificial glass. Y/s,

> > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , " Raj "

<raj_maiil@>

> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me

whether this is a real

> > nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there

are lots of fake

> > nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a

real nagamani

> please

> > confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >

> > >

> Tired of spam?

> > Mail has the best spam protection around >

>

> > >

> > > ________

> > > Check out some new online services at Windows Live Ideas—so new

they haven't even

> > been officially released yet.

> > > http://www.msnspecials.in/windowslive/

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Mail. See how.

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November 13, 2007

Well looks like Cheaters dont go hungry till you have greedy folks around best, JayRichard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Ha Ha ha!!! Too true!!! I cannot imagine how these fraudulant companies can be allowed to exist. Rama teri maya!!!sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:>> > wow!! and they are cheap too!! the Nag mani is supposed to cost

CRORES!! here they can be had for a few thousands!! Maybe I will order a few hundred and sell each for crores!! What sayest my friends? I will also say that it is banned so that no one can talk about it. It is secret and as soon as we speak of it or show it to anyone the magical power will evaporate and make it just glass or semi precious stone or even just granite or clay. I think it is a good strategy.Menon> > > sacred-objects: jaymunshi: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:49:17 -0800Re: Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > > > > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very very very common > http://www.manizone.co.uk/> > Best Regards,> > JayRichard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > > I AGREE!!!sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:>> another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth perpetrated by the fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till after he realises he was defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what law is it banned?Menon> > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga mani"? Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means

its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________> Check out some new online services at Windows Live Ideas—so new they haven't even been officially released yet.> http://www.msnspecials.in/windowslive/>> > > Be a better pen pal.

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Sir, FYKI Snake Charming is banned in India. http://www.wildlifesos.org/rprotect/snake_charm.htm As for keeping exotic animals as pets. For snakes you need a permit from the Wildlife Governing agency. I have had a very dear friend who now joined the Army but back in college was an active conservationist at one time had many snakes which he had rescued and which he would later release into wild. I am quite surprised to see how there is a lack of empathy for speechless animals. By far the most vicious animal on this planet is the Home Sapien So is making monkeys and bears dance around. Best, Jaypanditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

wrote: dear friendssome mischief mongers and jealous amateurs try to plant myths to scare the genuine customers from buying sacred objects from trustworthy people like us.for example when i posted the photo of a genuine siyar singhi last year, few people shouted selling banned animals product after which i produced the relevent portions from the indian wildlife act excepting vermin wherein this finds mention. similarly peacock feathers can also be traded freely as they are not banned.there is no ban on killing or trading a

snake or snake product. snakecharming is a profession which is not banned. some snakes like python are now reared as pets by some elite people. poison extracted from snakes is purchased and used by various pharmaceutical companies. in some northeastern states, snakes are displayed in their restaurants where they are cooked and served. so selling a snake or a part of a snake is not banned in india.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.comsacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:>> another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth perpetrated by the fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till after he realises he was defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what law is it banned?Menon> > > To:

sacred-objects: rsbj66: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga mani"? Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true

even with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >

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VERY GOOD INFO HERE

sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <bala_songyi wrote:

>

> There a number of places in Batam Island, (Near Singapore ) and

> central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun, which manufacture

> Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as referred by other members in

> this thread.....

>

> How are they made ?

>

> Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or cast iron tubs of 12-16

> inches are filled with tungsten metal granules and dust (discarded

> scraps from oil drilling industry)into these tubes or tubes depending

> on ball shape required or egg shapped required.

>

> The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are put into these tupes or tubs

> and tumbled by agitation on an agitator machine.

> The agitator machines are about 12 feet to 12 feet wide and these

> tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator. An agitator machine is like

> those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in Indian Rice mills or Thai Rice

> mills, except there is no gale force Fans blowing away the lighter

> husks.

>

> In case of a coconut pearl, these are made from Marine Coconut snail

> shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5 inches thick shell, (common in

> the seas of east java and east sumatra Indian ocean coastlines.

> When right size is obtained, these pearls are carved with lines and a

> bun like hump on one side which is smaller and lightly agitated again

> to remove human workings on it.

>

> When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls are boiled in coconut milk

> (as used in curry) but with all the coconut gratings, for few days.

>

> The strong smell of coconut willl linger for months from the coconut

> pearls and when soaked into hot water will emit the coconut milk

> fragances. This is how the challenged test is done.

>

> The real piece of coconut pearl is a harden piece of mixed coconut

> butters with a oval elongated shape that give a smell of fresh

> coconut oil tin opened for years and years. For example the piece

> displayed in Brunei istana museum, decorated with gold and diamonds

>

> Bamboo pearls are like small pieces of white milky hailstones and

> called Bamboo Salt in Harbin (northern china), in fact they are salt

> crystals and this bamboo is grown and harvested for its salts...

>

> Hope this info is useful

>

> sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

> <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > Like the " limbo dance " - how LOW can you GO! They have MANY " Cloud

> Pearls " - but if you test with a lab and prove " artifical glass " then

> what is their refund policy?

> >

> > sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very very

> very common

> > > http://www.manizone.co.uk/

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Jay

> > >

> > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > I AGREE!!!

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth

> perpetrated by the

> > > fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till

> after he realises he was

> > > defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what

> law is it banned?

> > > Menon

> > > >

> > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35

> +0000[sacred-

> > > objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

> > > >

> > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of " Naga

> mani " ? Is Nagamani

> > > mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-

> objects , Ranganath P

> > > <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in

> Public, > Since it

> > has

> > > been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the

> items which are Sale

> > May

> > > not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International

> Business Partner>

> > > Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are

> glass. Why not get

> > the

> > > seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known

> stones, or any other ID? You

> > > cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even

> with normal stones, what

> > to

> > > speak of " naga mani. " If they can't PROVE it then they cannot

> sell it (except to an idiot).

> > Y/

> > > s, Richard> > sacred-objects , " Raj "

> <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >>

> > >

> > > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have >

> > nagamanis of different

> > > types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake

> too?http://

> > > i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg

> http://

> > i7.tinypic.com/

> > > 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but

> cant believe them at >

> > >

> > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to

> find> > sacred-

> > > objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > > <rsbj66@>

> wrote:> > >> > >

> > Sir,

> > > real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > >

> is artificial glass. Y/s,

> > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects , " Raj "

> <raj_maiil@>

> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me

> whether this is a real

> > > nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > there

> are lots of fake

> > > nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > that> > > > this is a

> real nagamani

> > please

> > > confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >

> > > >

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I dont advocate cruelity to animals. But if you to eating meat there is no point in even discussing cruelity to any other animal. It is pointless to even talk of human greed and I totally agree humans are by far the most vicious by products of evolution, however it stands that we have the ability to overcome this by means of conscious reasoning. Lets strive to go higher, naga mani or not!

Regarding snake charming, there is no concrete measure yet to ban it totally. Pls go thru this article where snake charmers have been agitating against the government as late as 2000 as against the banned law in 1972.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5037/is_200501/ai_n18257934

Jay Munshi <jaymunshisacred-objects Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:07:52 AMRe: Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

Sir,

FYKI Snake Charming is banned in India.

http://www.wildlife sos.org/rprotect /snake_charm. htm

As for keeping exotic animals as pets. For snakes you need a permit from the Wildlife Governing agency. I have had a very dear friend who now joined the Army but back in college was an active conservationist at one time had many snakes which he had rescued and which he would later release into wild.

I am quite surprised to see how there is a lack of empathy for speechless animals. By far the most vicious animal on this planet is the Home Sapien

So is making monkeys and bears dance around.

Best,

Jaypanditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

dear friendssome mischief mongers and jealous amateurs try to plant myths to scare the genuine customers from buying sacred objects from trustworthy people like us.for example when i posted the photo of a genuine siyar singhi last year, few people shouted selling banned animals product after which i produced the relevent portions from the indian wildlife act excepting vermin wherein this finds mention. similarly peacock feathers can also be traded freely as they are not banned.there is no ban on killing or trading a snake or snake product. snakecharming is a profession which is not banned. some snakes like python are now reared as pets by some elite people. poison extracted from snakes is purchased and used by various pharmaceutical companies. in some northeastern states, snakes are displayed in their restaurants where they are cooked and served. so selling a snake or a part of

a snake is not banned in india.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy .comsacred-objects, Kochu Menon <kochu1 wrote:>> another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth perpetrated by the fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till after he realises he was defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what law is it banned?Menon> > > sacred-objects@ ...: rsbj66: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga mani"? Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-objects@ .com, Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects, "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic. com/85nyz4n. jpg > > http://i2.tinypic. com/6tfnvib. jpg http://i7.tinypic. com/71d09p1. jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to find> > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects, "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic. com/85vxpbb. jpg> > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but, someone told me > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> >

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Thanks for the info! priceless!

Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66sacred-objects Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:32:36 AM Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

VERY GOOD INFO HEREsacred-objects, "bala_songyi" <bala_songyi@ ...> wrote:>> There a number of places in Batam Island, (Near Singapore ) and > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun, which manufacture > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as referred by other members in > this thread.....> > How are they made ?> > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or cast iron tubs of 12-16 > inches are filled with tungsten metal granules and dust (discarded > scraps from oil drilling industry)into these tubes or tubes depending > on ball shape required or egg shapped required.> > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are put into these tupes or tubs > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator

machine.> The agitator machines are about 12 feet to 12 feet wide and these > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator. An agitator machine is like > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in Indian Rice mills or Thai Rice > mills, except there is no gale force Fans blowing away the lighter > husks. > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made from Marine Coconut snail > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5 inches thick shell, (common in > the seas of east java and east sumatra Indian ocean coastlines.> When right size is obtained, these pearls are carved with lines and a > bun like hump on one side which is smaller and lightly agitated again > to remove human workings on it.> > When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls are boiled in coconut milk > (as used in curry) but with all the coconut gratings, for few days.> > The strong smell of

coconut willl linger for months from the coconut > pearls and when soaked into hot water will emit the coconut milk > fragances. This is how the challenged test is done.> > The real piece of coconut pearl is a harden piece of mixed coconut > butters with a oval elongated shape that give a smell of fresh > coconut oil tin opened for years and years. For example the piece > displayed in Brunei istana museum, decorated with gold and diamonds> > Bamboo pearls are like small pieces of white milky hailstones and > called Bamboo Salt in Harbin (northern china), in fact they are salt > crystals and this bamboo is grown and harvested for its salts...> > > Hope this info is useful> > > sacred-objects@ .

com, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > Like the "limbo dance" - how LOW can you GO! They have MANY "Cloud > Pearls" - but if you test with a lab and prove "artifical glass" then > what is their refund policy?> > > > sacred-objects, Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> > wrote:> > >> > > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very very > very common > > > http://www.manizone .co.uk/> > >> > > Best Regards,> > >> > > Jay> > >> > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > I AGREE!!!> >

>> > > sacred-objects, Kochu Menon <kochu1@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth > perpetrated by the> > > fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till > after he realises he was> > > defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what > law is it banned?> > > Menon> > > >> > > >> > > > sacred-objects@ : rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 > +0000[sacred-> > > objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga > mani"? Is Nagamani> > > mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-> objects@ .com, Ranganath P> > > <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in > Public, > Since it> > has> > > been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the > items which are Sale> > May> > > not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International > Business Partner>> > > Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are > glass. Why not get> > the> > > seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known > stones, or any

other ID? You> > > cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even > with normal stones, what> > to> > > speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot > sell it (except to an idiot).> > Y/> > > s, Richard> > sacred-objects, "Raj" > <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >>> > >> > > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > > nagamanis of different> > > types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake > too?http://> > > i19.tinypic. com/85nyz4n. jpg > > http://i2.tinypic. com/6tfnvib. jpg

> http://> > i7.tinypic.com/> > > 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but > cant believe them at >> > >> > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to > find> > sacred-> > > objects@ .com, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > Sir,> > > real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > > is artificial glass. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects, "Raj" >

<raj_maiil@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me > whether this is a real> > > nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic. com/85vxpbb. jpg> > > > there > are lots of fake> > > nagamanis around...but, someone told me > > that> > > > this is a > real nagamani> > please> > > confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> > > Tired of spam?> > > Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail. >> > > >> > >

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dear friend

instead of referring the articles of third parties, i studied the

indian wildlife protection act 1972 along with its amendments and

nowhere i find snakecharming banned in india. if you give me the

relvent chapters or schedules of this act where it mentions

snakecharming banned in india, i would be grateful to you.

snakecharmers have been hired by the government and were sent at

government cost to various international cultural fairs abroad

organised by the indian tourism ministry. even today several

government tourism offices hire snakecharmers at their camps. all

these are done officially.

cobra is the snake which we are discussing in this thread. cobra is

a normal snake according to indian wildlife act and its killing for

self defence is not banned. trading the skin of only some rare

snakes which are extinct or rarest in nature is banned but that does

not apply surely to cobra which we are discussing.

snakecharmers were unnecessarily branded bad by the elite

airconditioned lifestyle animal lovers. last year hundreds of

snakecharmers seized the assembly of orissa and left hundreds of

snakes inside the assembly to highlight the harrassment meted out to

them after which the government pronounced clearly that snakecharmers

belong to an old traditional profession which will not be harrassed

by the governemnt.

if you still believe that snakecharming is banned, please mention the

relevent clauses from the act and also mention why govenment is

promoting snakecharming in its own fairs even today. if

snakecharming is really banned in india, as you are claiming, crores

of worth advertisement by pepsi with sharukh khan playing as a

snakecharmer would have been banned.

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

sacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi

wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> FYKI Snake Charming is banned in India.

>

> http://www.wildlifesos.org/rprotect/snake_charm.htm

>

> As for keeping exotic animals as pets. For snakes you need a

permit from the Wildlife Governing agency. I have had a very dear

friend who now joined the Army but back in college was an active

conservationist at one time had many snakes which he had rescued and

which he would later release into wild.

>

> I am quite surprised to see how there is a lack of empathy for

speechless animals. By far the most vicious animal on this planet is

the Home Sapien

>

> So is making monkeys and bears dance around.

>

> Best,

>

> Jay

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> dear friends

>

> some mischief mongers and jealous amateurs try to plant myths to

> scare the genuine customers from buying sacred objects from

> trustworthy people like us.

>

> for example when i posted the photo of a genuine siyar singhi last

> year, few people shouted selling banned animals product after which

i

> produced the relevent portions from the indian wildlife act

excepting

> vermin wherein this finds mention. similarly peacock feathers can

> also be traded freely as they are not banned.

>

> there is no ban on killing or trading a snake or snake product.

> snakecharming is a profession which is not banned. some snakes like

> python are now reared as pets by some elite people. poison

extracted

> from snakes is purchased and used by various pharmaceutical

> companies. in some northeastern states, snakes are displayed in

> their restaurants where they are cooked and served. so selling a

> snake or a part of a snake is not banned in india.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:

> >

> > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth

> perpetrated by the fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from

talking

> about it till after he realises he was defrauded. Can anyone show

the

> notification? and pray, under what law is it banned?Menon

> >

> > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35

> +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo

> included

> >

> > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of " Naga

mani " ?

> Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-

> objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> >

> Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been

banned

> by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are

> Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath>

> International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown

> <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to

provide

> a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID?

> You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even

> with normal stones, what to speak of " naga mani. " If they can't

PROVE

> it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > --

-

> In sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> >

> thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > >

> nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent

>

> > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > >

> http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg

>

> > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them

at

> > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult

to

> find> > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown "

>

> > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent.

I

> have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> >

>

> > > > sacred-objects , " Raj " <raj_maiil@>

> wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me

whether

> this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg>

>

> > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me >

>

> that> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > > >> >

>>

> >> > > > > > > Do

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> around > >

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my mother's elder sister has a "Nelmaanikyam" which is a pinkish ruby shaped like a rice grain. It was in the treasury of a rich ancient family and it is credited with lots of powers. It was sold to her husband by an alcoholic in the family for 400 rupees in the 50s.

The question I asked was if it brings so many boons why was it sold?

anyway my aunt's husband rose in civil service but was suspended on trumped up charges - like he did not attend a meeting to set up civil defence in Kerala (during the 1962 conflict) while he was attending a similar meeting in Delhi etc. He fought cases but died afterin a tragic accident and was reinstated after his death. The aunt suffered a lot because of a shizoid son and daughter.

Whats the moral of the story?Menon

sacred-objects From: panditarjun2004Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:51:43 +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included

dear friendinstead of referring the articles of third parties, i studied the indian wildlife protection act 1972 along with its amendments and nowhere i find snakecharming banned in india. if you give me the relvent chapters or schedules of this act where it mentions snakecharming banned in india, i would be grateful to you.snakecharmers have been hired by the government and were sent at government cost to various international cultural fairs abroad organised by the indian tourism ministry. even today several government tourism offices hire snakecharmers at their camps. all these are done officially.cobra is the snake which we are discussing in this thread. cobra is a normal snake according to indian wildlife act and its killing for self defence is not banned. trading the skin of only some rare snakes which are extinct or rarest in nature is banned but that does not apply surely to cobra which we are discussing.snakecharmers were unnecessarily branded bad by the elite airconditioned lifestyle animal lovers. last year hundreds of snakecharmers seized the assembly of orissa and left hundreds of snakes inside the assembly to highlight the harrassment meted out to them after which the government pronounced clearly that snakecharmers belong to an old traditional profession which will not be harrassed by the governemnt.if you still believe that snakecharming is banned, please mention the relevent clauses from the act and also mention why govenment is promoting snakecharming in its own fairs even today. if snakecharming is really banned in india, as you are claiming, crores of worth advertisement by pepsi with sharukh khan playing as a snakecharmer would have been banned.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.comsacred-objects , Jay Munshi <jaymunshi wrote:>> Sir,> > FYKI Snake Charming is banned in India.> > http://www.wildlifesos.org/rprotect/snake_charm.htm> > As for keeping exotic animals as pets. For snakes you need a permit from the Wildlife Governing agency. I have had a very dear friend who now joined the Army but back in college was an active conservationist at one time had many snakes which he had rescued and which he would later release into wild.> > I am quite surprised to see how there is a lack of empathy for speechless animals. By far the most vicious animal on this planet is the Home Sapien > > > So is making monkeys and bears dance around.> > Best,> > Jay> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:> dear friends> > some mischief mongers and jealous amateurs try to plant myths to > scare the genuine customers from buying sacred objects from > trustworthy people like us.> > for example when i posted the photo of a genuine siyar singhi last > year, few people shouted selling banned animals product after which i > produced the relevent portions from the indian wildlife act excepting > vermin wherein this finds mention. similarly peacock feathers can > also be traded freely as they are not banned.> > there is no ban on killing or trading a snake or snake product. > snakecharming is a profession which is not banned. some snakes like > python are now reared as pets by some elite people. poison extracted > from snakes is purchased and used by various pharmaceutical > companies. in some northeastern states, snakes are displayed in > their restaurants where they are cooked and served. so selling a > snake or a part of a snake is not banned in india.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy.com> > sacred-objects , Kochu Menon <kochu1@> wrote:> >> > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth > perpetrated by the fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking > about it till after he realises he was defrauded. Can anyone show the > notification? and pray, under what law is it banned?Menon> > > > > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 > +0000 Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo > included> > > > > > > > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga mani"? > Is Nagamani mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-> objects , Ranganath P <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in Public, > Since it has been banned > by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the items which are > Sale May not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> > International Business Partner> Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown > <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are glass. Why not get the seller to provide > a gem certificate ruling out glass, known stones, or any other ID? > You cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even > with normal stones, what to speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE > it then they cannot sell it (except to an idiot). Y/s, Richard> > --- > In sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >> > > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > > nagamanis of different types for example these are not transparent > > > so are they fake too?http://i19.tinypic.com/85nyz4n.jpg > > > http://i2.tinypic.com/6tfnvib.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/71d09p1.jpg > > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but cant believe them at > > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to > find> > sacred-objects , "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > > <rsbj66@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, real Nagamani is not transparent. I > have tested this type. It > > is artificial glass. Y/s, Richard> > > > > > > sacred-objects , "Raj" <raj_maiil@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me whether > this is a real nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic.com/85vxpbb.jpg> > > > > there are lots of fake nagamanis around...but,someone told me > > > that> > > > this is a real nagamani please confirm sir.> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Do > You ?> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________> > Check out some new online services at Windows Live Ideas—so new > they haven't even been officially released yet.> > http://www.msnspecials.in/windowslive/> >> > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how.> Call friends with PC-to-PC calling -- FREE Try it now!

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Ditto! Thanks and Best Regards, Jaysurya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv wrote: Thanks for the info! priceless! Richard Shaw-Brown

<rsbj66 >sacred-objects Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:32:36 AM Re: is this Real Naga Mani? photo included VERY GOOD INFO HEREsacred-objects, "bala_songyi" <bala_songyi@ ...> wrote:>> There a number of places in Batam Island, (Near Singapore ) and > central Java near JogJakarta and Cheribun, which manufacture > Musitakas as seen in the 2 websites as referred by other members in > this thread.....> > How are they made ?> > Usuall A cast iron tune of 7-8 inches or cast iron tubs of 12-16 > inches are filled with tungsten metal granules and dust (discarded > scraps from oil drilling industry)into these tubes or

tubes depending > on ball shape required or egg shapped required.> > The mineral fossils or mineral rocks are put into these tupes or tubs > and tumbled by agitation on an agitator machine.> The agitator machines are about 12 feet to 12 feet wide and these > tubes or tubs are loaded on the agitator. An agitator machine is like > those Rice amd Husk Sieve machines in Indian Rice mills or Thai Rice > mills, except there is no gale force Fans blowing away the lighter > husks. > > In case of a coconut pearl, these are made from Marine Coconut snail > shell which has a thick shell of 3 - 5 inches thick shell, (common in > the seas of east java and east sumatra Indian ocean coastlines.> When right size is obtained, these pearls are carved with lines and a > bun like hump on one side which is smaller and lightly agitated again > to remove human workings on it.>

> When finalized, the shell tumbled pearls are boiled in coconut milk > (as used in curry) but with all the coconut gratings, for few days.> > The strong smell of coconut willl linger for months from the coconut > pearls and when soaked into hot water will emit the coconut milk > fragances. This is how the challenged test is done.> > The real piece of coconut pearl is a harden piece of mixed coconut > butters with a oval elongated shape that give a smell of fresh > coconut oil tin opened for years and years. For example the piece > displayed in Brunei istana museum, decorated with gold and diamonds> > Bamboo pearls are like small pieces of white milky hailstones and > called Bamboo Salt in Harbin (northern china), in fact they are salt > crystals and this bamboo is grown and harvested for its salts...> > > Hope this info is useful> >

> sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > Like the "limbo dance" - how LOW can you GO! They have MANY "Cloud > Pearls" - but if you test with a lab and prove "artifical glass" then > what is their refund policy?> > > > sacred-objects, Jay Munshi <jaymunshi@> > wrote:> > >> > > Look what I found. Not just Naag Mani but all manis are very very > very common > > > http://www.manizone .co.uk/> > >> > > Best Regards,>

> >> > > Jay> > >> > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > I AGREE!!!> > >> > > sacred-objects, Kochu Menon <kochu1@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > another bunkum. There is no such ban. This is another myth > perpetrated by the> > > fraudster to keep the gullible buyer from talking about it till > after he realises he was> > > defrauded. Can anyone show the notification? and pray, under what > law is it banned?> > > Menon> > > >> > > >> > > > sacred-objects@ : rsbj66@: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:35 > +0000[sacred-> > > objects] Re: is this Real Naga Mani?

photo included> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Wow! Does the Govt of India recognize the existance of "Naga > mani"? Is Nagamani> > > mentioned in Indian law? Wow!!!sacred-> objects@ .com, Ranganath P> > > <askranga@> wrote:>> Hello> > Original Naga Mani cant to Sold in > Public, > Since it> > has> > > been banned by Govt. Of India.> > That means its clear that the > items which are Sale> > May> > > not be Geniune or Original> > Regards> Ranganath> International > Business Partner>> > > Bangalore> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> These are > glass. Why not get> >

the> > > seller to provide a gem certificate ruling out glass, known > stones, or any other ID? You> > > cannot buy without guarantee and certificate. This is true even > with normal stones, what> > to> > > speak of "naga mani." If they can't PROVE it then they cannot > sell it (except to an idiot).> > Y/> > > s, Richard> > sacred-objects, "Raj" > <raj_maiil@> wrote:> >>> > >> > > thanks for replying sir.i found it for sale.they claim to have > > > nagamanis of different> > > types for example these are not transparent > > so are they fake > too?http://> > > i19.tinypic. com/85nyz4n. jpg > > http://i2.tinypic. com/6tfnvib. jpg > http://> > i7.tinypic.com/> > > 71d09p1.jpg > > they say its polished nagamani from cobra but > cant believe them at >> > >> > > all as there are lots of fakes and nagamani is very difficult to > find> > sacred-> > > objects@ .com, "Richard Shaw-Brown" > > <rsbj66@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > Sir,> > > real Nagamani is not transparent. I have tested this type. It > > > is artificial glass. Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects, "Raj" > <raj_maiil@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Richard sir,> > > > can u please tell me > whether this is a real> > > nagamani-> > > > http://i10.tinypic. com/85vxpbb. jpg> > > > there > are lots of fake> > > nagamanis around...but, someone told me > > that> > > > this is a > real nagamani> > please> > > confirm sir.> > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> > > Tired of spam?> > > Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > > Check out some new online services at Windows Live Ideas—so new > they haven't even> > > been officially released yet.> > > > http://www.msnspeci als.in/windowsli ve/> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > Mail. See how.> > >> >> Be a better pen pal.

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