Full Moon Question - Can women worship Shalagram?

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We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What is

the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But this

lady worships even during her period. What is right?

 

Thanks,

Richard

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Popular belief in the Indian community, North & South, Nepali, etc., is that a woman should only do this worship after menses. In the South, even though this is understood, the belief is that women should this seva at all (in the orthodox South, some women don't even believe in doing Sri Chakra Puja). PERIOD. I promise you, that this lady is probably an American that is doing this, with little regard for convention and tradition. But then again, that may be wrong for me to say because devotion to Sri Hari trumps all regardless of background because Shalagrama Shila chooses his sevak and goes to where he wants to go. If Shalagrama Shila wants to stay with her through menses and all, then that's where he indeed chooses to stay.Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her period. What is right?Thanks,Richard

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dear friends

 

during the monthly menstrual cycle, women are given rest. it does

not mean women shall be treated as untouchables during these days and

they shall not be prohibited from doing any thing.

 

the divine and mythological forms of women too have their monthly

periods. there are few temples in india even today where the idols of

the goddess produce blood naturally as if they are having monthly

cycles.

 

shalagram can be worshipped by every one both men and women alike and

the ways of worshipping are different from place to place. however,

women are advised to take rest during their periods purely on health

and hygine grounds.

 

christian women attend churches even during their periods and their

religion does not prohibit women from entering a church during

periods. excessive restrictive practices on women were originated in

male dominated days and today the realised world treats both gents on

par. according to mythology, shakti is kept above par with shiva,

for shiva without shakti is shava.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

 

sacred-objects , Janardana Dasa

<lightdweller wrote:

>

> Popular belief in the Indian community, North & South, Nepali,

etc., is that a woman should only do this worship after menses. In

the South, even though this is understood, the belief is that women

should this seva at all (in the orthodox South, some women don't even

believe in doing Sri Chakra Puja). PERIOD. I promise you, that this

lady is probably an American that is doing this, with little regard

for convention and tradition.

>

> But then again, that may be wrong for me to say because devotion

to Sri Hari trumps all regardless of background because Shalagrama

Shila chooses his sevak and goes to where he wants to go. If

Shalagrama Shila wants to stay with her through menses and all, then

that's where he indeed chooses to stay.

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila.

Is this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could

worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her

period. What is right?

>

> Thanks,

> Richard

 

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SRI MAATRE NAMAHA JAI GURUDEVA DATTA INDRA the king of Gods killed a demon named as VRUTRAASURA a brhmin. Hence he was attacked by a sin called as "Brhma Hatya".At last he was come out of that sin duly distributing that Brhmahatya Dosha to five, like rivers, mountains, ladies and trees etc., The menstural perild of ladies comes under this catagory. As such ladies are not qulified in certain worshipping methods like SALIGRAVA Puja etc. In Dharma sastra a lady under mensturation period is described like this "Prathamehani chandaalee dwiteeye brhma ghaatinee truteeye rajakee prokta chaturthehani sudhhyati " According to the above a lady shall be purified after the fourth day bath only. According to SANTANA SAMPRADAYA a lady is not fit to perfom the SALIGRAVA PUJA by touching it even after her menstural fourth day bath as she was not got the UPANAYANA SAMSKARAM by her elders. Without UPANAYANA SAMSKARAM no one is qulified to perform puja with veda mantras.. SARVE BHADRAANI PASYANTU DR.G.S.SUBAMANYA SASTRY drgsssastry 08554 255680 Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote: Popular belief in the Indian community, North & South, Nepali, etc., is that a woman should only do this worship after menses. In the South, even though this is understood, the belief is that women should this seva at all (in the orthodox South, some women don't even believe in doing Sri Chakra Puja). PERIOD. I promise you, that this lady is probably an American that is doing this, with little regard for convention and tradition. But then again, that may be wrong for me to say because devotion to Sri Hari trumps all

regardless of background because Shalagrama Shila chooses his sevak and goes to where he wants to go. If Shalagrama Shila wants to stay with her through menses and all, then that's where he indeed chooses to stay.Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her period. What is right?Thanks,Richard Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now.

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Clap Clap Clap. (Applause) Ditto. Its the smritis that came in much later that started enforcing such rules. Early Vedic litrature as far as I beleive does not mention anything of the sort that would describing fertile women as untouchable. Any pointers welcome Best Regards, Jaypanditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friendsduring the monthly menstrual cycle, women are given rest. it does

not mean women shall be treated as untouchables during these days and they shall not be prohibited from doing any thing.the divine and mythological forms of women too have their monthly periods. there are few temples in india even today where the idols of the goddess produce blood naturally as if they are having monthly cycles.shalagram can be worshipped by every one both men and women alike and the ways of worshipping are different from place to place. however, women are advised to take rest during their periods purely on health and hygine grounds.christian women attend churches even during their periods and their religion does not prohibit women from entering a church during periods. excessive restrictive practices on women were originated in male dominated days and today the realised world treats both gents on par. according to mythology, shakti is kept above par with shiva, for shiva without

shakti is shava.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.comsacred-objects , Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote:>> Popular belief in the Indian community, North & South, Nepali, etc., is that a woman should only do this worship after menses. In the South, even though this is understood, the belief is that women should this seva at all (in the orthodox South, some women don't even believe in doing Sri Chakra Puja). PERIOD. I promise you, that this lady is probably an American that is doing this, with little regard for convention and tradition. > > But then again, that may be wrong for me to say because devotion to Sri Hari trumps all regardless of background because Shalagrama Shila chooses his sevak and goes to where he wants to go. If Shalagrama Shila

wants to stay with her through menses and all, then that's where he indeed chooses to stay.> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her period. What is right?> > Thanks,> Richard> > > > > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now.>

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Hello Sir, It begins with the lady doesn't it!!! If she is so singularly attachted to the Lord, then it's fine. What is bleeding afterall, a anatonomical feature!!! Suppose a person is visiting a temple, he/she as a mark of respect would not carry leather items into it, might wear a dhoti (as mandatory in some temples). I know of some non-veg people, who conciously avoid eating non-veg the day they have to visit a temple & above all horny gentlemen who make a exception on the night before they visit the Lord.. But all this is external. Now, can the lady in question stop periods from taking place, its not a voluntary function!!! while she has the choice of not worshipping the Lord during that phase, but that would breach the celestial protocol!!! If we think from the point of view as to what is that which is actually worshiping, the Atman & Atman is not stained by the bleeding, so

its fine!!! Bhava is singularly more important than, mere ritualism. How can we jugde the depth of her devotion when the lord does'nt seem to be objecting.... I am reminded of a incident in Mother Mira's life. She wanted to enter a temple of Lord, but was denied entry on the grounds that only men are permitted inside the sanctum. She smiled at the Panda's, & exclaimed " & What a fool I was to think that My Lord was the only male ever born." Dry Humor at its Peak. Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her period. What is right?Thanks,Richard

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dear friends

 

the smritis or shastras or the doctrins imposing ristrictions were

male dominated and many such restrictions treat women worse than

slaves. if i reproduce some rules from these smritis as to how a

woman shall live her life, the national commission for women shall

surely put me in jail as those rules treat women worse than slaves

and the government has laid down rules against such practices.

 

in fertile women, the monthly menstrual cycle shall be treated as a

healthy mechanism and women may be given rest during that time. in

olden days, sanitary napkins were not invented and hence women were

consigned to a corner of the house on hygiene grounds.

 

many holy texts including puranas have many rules which are contrary

to what the preceeding or succeeding para says. for example, in

shivapuran at one place it is written that the smallest rudraksha is

the best and in another para, the bigger the better. in several

paras it is written that a wearer shall not eat garlic, onions and

meat etc. in several paras, lord shiva recommends red color

rudraksha to kshatriyas and black color rudraksha to shudras while

white and yellow are recommended to brahmins and vaishyas.

kshatriyas and shudras DO eat meat and when these castes were

recommended to wear the rudrakshas, the above conditions do not hold

water.

 

while quoting scriptures, one shall not forget logic and rationale

before enforcing a civic code. for example, according to puranas,

when king indra slept with sage gautam's wife ahalya, sage gautam

curses indra that he would get half the sin of all illicit affairs of

humans. does this encourage humans to indulge in illicit affairs as

half of their sins are credited into indra's account and the humans

get only half of their sins in their accoutns?

 

many suppressive and oppressive rules against women were written by

unrealised males who forgot the message conveyed by lord shiva when

he shown the world that shakti contains half of him in his

ardhanareeswara form which clearly puts shiva and shakti as equal.

 

as regards upanayana samskaram, it is fraught with many myths. all

humans by birth are shudras and only by their acts become brahmins or

other castes (aka professions), not by birth. upanayana samskram and

sandhaya vandanam and gayatri chanting are all in praise of gayatri

mata. women can do poojas and vratams albeit they have not had their

upanayana samskarams. each and every woman before marriage performs

gauri pooja chanting vedic mantras. after marriage the women do

several vratams, poojas and archanas and many of these rituals

contain chanting vedic mantras from holy texts or reading holy vedic

texts.

 

hence in my humble opinion, women are at liberty to do poojas and the

monthly periods may be used to take rest and not as a banned period.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

sacred-objects , <drgsssastry wrote:

>

> SRI MAATRE NAMAHA

>

> JAI GURUDEVA DATTA

>

> INDRA the king of Gods killed a demon named as VRUTRAASURA a

brhmin. Hence he was attacked by a sin called as " Brhma Hatya " .At

last he was come out of that sin duly distributing that Brhmahatya

Dosha to five, like rivers, mountains, ladies and trees etc., The

menstural perild of ladies comes under this catagory. As such ladies

are not qulified in certain worshipping methods like SALIGRAVA Puja

etc.

>

> In Dharma sastra a lady under mensturation period is described

like this

>

> " Prathamehani chandaalee dwiteeye brhma ghaatinee

> truteeye rajakee prokta chaturthehani sudhhyati "

>

> According to the above a lady shall be purified after the fourth

day bath only. According to SANTANA SAMPRADAYA a lady is not fit to

perfom the SALIGRAVA PUJA by touching it even after her menstural

fourth day bath as she was not got the UPANAYANA SAMSKARAM by her

elders. Without UPANAYANA SAMSKARAM no one is qulified to perform

puja with veda mantras..

>

> SARVE BHADRAANI PASYANTU

>

> DR.G.S.SUBAMANYA SASTRY

>

> drgsssastry

>

> 08554 255680

>

>

>

> Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote:

> Popular belief in the Indian community, North & South,

Nepali, etc., is that a woman should only do this worship after

menses. In the South, even though this is understood, the belief is

that women should this seva at all (in the orthodox South, some women

don't even believe in doing Sri Chakra Puja). PERIOD. I promise

you, that this lady is probably an American that is doing this, with

little regard for convention and tradition.

>

> But then again, that may be wrong for me to say because devotion

to Sri Hari trumps all regardless of background because Shalagrama

Shila chooses his sevak and goes to where he wants to go. If

Shalagrama Shila wants to stay with her through menses and all, then

that's where he indeed chooses to stay.

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is

this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could

worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her

period. What is right?

>

> Thanks,

> Richard

>

>

>

>

>

>

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We have all " heard " that women should not touch Shalagram. But who has said

this? Where is it stated? I'm wondering... Y/s, Richard

 

sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004

wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> the smritis or shastras or the doctrins imposing ristrictions were

> male dominated and many such restrictions treat women worse than

> slaves. if i reproduce some rules from these smritis as to how a

> woman shall live her life, the national commission for women shall

> surely put me in jail as those rules treat women worse than slaves

> and the government has laid down rules against such practices.

>

> in fertile women, the monthly menstrual cycle shall be treated as a

> healthy mechanism and women may be given rest during that time. in

> olden days, sanitary napkins were not invented and hence women were

> consigned to a corner of the house on hygiene grounds.

>

> many holy texts including puranas have many rules which are contrary

> to what the preceeding or succeeding para says. for example, in

> shivapuran at one place it is written that the smallest rudraksha is

> the best and in another para, the bigger the better. in several

> paras it is written that a wearer shall not eat garlic, onions and

> meat etc. in several paras, lord shiva recommends red color

> rudraksha to kshatriyas and black color rudraksha to shudras while

> white and yellow are recommended to brahmins and vaishyas.

> kshatriyas and shudras DO eat meat and when these castes were

> recommended to wear the rudrakshas, the above conditions do not hold

> water.

>

> while quoting scriptures, one shall not forget logic and rationale

> before enforcing a civic code. for example, according to puranas,

> when king indra slept with sage gautam's wife ahalya, sage gautam

> curses indra that he would get half the sin of all illicit affairs of

> humans. does this encourage humans to indulge in illicit affairs as

> half of their sins are credited into indra's account and the humans

> get only half of their sins in their accoutns?

>

> many suppressive and oppressive rules against women were written by

> unrealised males who forgot the message conveyed by lord shiva when

> he shown the world that shakti contains half of him in his

> ardhanareeswara form which clearly puts shiva and shakti as equal.

>

> as regards upanayana samskaram, it is fraught with many myths. all

> humans by birth are shudras and only by their acts become brahmins or

> other castes (aka professions), not by birth. upanayana samskram and

> sandhaya vandanam and gayatri chanting are all in praise of gayatri

> mata. women can do poojas and vratams albeit they have not had their

> upanayana samskarams. each and every woman before marriage performs

> gauri pooja chanting vedic mantras. after marriage the women do

> several vratams, poojas and archanas and many of these rituals

> contain chanting vedic mantras from holy texts or reading holy vedic

> texts.

>

> hence in my humble opinion, women are at liberty to do poojas and the

> monthly periods may be used to take rest and not as a banned period.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> sacred-objects , <drgsssastry@> wrote:

> >

> > SRI MAATRE NAMAHA

> >

> > JAI GURUDEVA DATTA

> >

> > INDRA the king of Gods killed a demon named as VRUTRAASURA a

> brhmin. Hence he was attacked by a sin called as " Brhma Hatya " .At

> last he was come out of that sin duly distributing that Brhmahatya

> Dosha to five, like rivers, mountains, ladies and trees etc., The

> menstural perild of ladies comes under this catagory. As such ladies

> are not qulified in certain worshipping methods like SALIGRAVA Puja

> etc.

> >

> > In Dharma sastra a lady under mensturation period is described

> like this

> >

> > " Prathamehani chandaalee dwiteeye brhma ghaatinee

> > truteeye rajakee prokta chaturthehani sudhhyati "

> >

> > According to the above a lady shall be purified after the fourth

> day bath only. According to SANTANA SAMPRADAYA a lady is not fit to

> perfom the SALIGRAVA PUJA by touching it even after her menstural

> fourth day bath as she was not got the UPANAYANA SAMSKARAM by her

> elders. Without UPANAYANA SAMSKARAM no one is qulified to perform

> puja with veda mantras..

> >

> > SARVE BHADRAANI PASYANTU

> >

> > DR.G.S.SUBAMANYA SASTRY

> >

> > drgsssastry@

> >

> > 08554 255680

> >

> >

> >

> > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@> wrote:

> > Popular belief in the Indian community, North & South,

> Nepali, etc., is that a woman should only do this worship after

> menses. In the South, even though this is understood, the belief is

> that women should this seva at all (in the orthodox South, some women

> don't even believe in doing Sri Chakra Puja). PERIOD. I promise

> you, that this lady is probably an American that is doing this, with

> little regard for convention and tradition.

> >

> > But then again, that may be wrong for me to say because devotion

> to Sri Hari trumps all regardless of background because Shalagrama

> Shila chooses his sevak and goes to where he wants to go. If

> Shalagrama Shila wants to stay with her through menses and all, then

> that's where he indeed chooses to stay.

> >

> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is

> this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could

> worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her

> period. What is right?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Richard

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with

> Mobile. Try it now.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> See how.

> >

>

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Hi Abhi,

 

I wonder where Mira got the idea that Krishna was the only male ever born.

Obviously she knows about Balaram, and Arjuna, and all Krishna's sakhas, and

Nanda Maharaj, all males. Obviously she was wrong (or right, in her admission of

mistake). But to stop Mira from entering a temple of Krishna is also wrong. It

can only be the pleasure of the Lord, otherwise how is this all possible.

 

My question is WHO has started this " rule " that womern cannot touch Shalagram?

 

Y/s,

Richard

 

sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote:

>

> Hello Sir,

>

> It begins with the lady doesn't it!!! If she is so singularly attachted to

the Lord, then it's

fine. What is bleeding afterall, a anatonomical feature!!! Suppose a person is

visiting a

temple, he/she as a mark of respect would not carry leather items into it, might

wear a

dhoti (as mandatory in some temples). I know of some non-veg people, who

conciously

avoid eating non-veg the day they have to visit a temple & above all horny

gentlemen who

make a exception on the night before they visit the Lord..

>

> But all this is external. Now, can the lady in question stop periods from

taking place,

its not a voluntary function!!! while she has the choice of not worshipping the

Lord during

that phase, but that would breach the celestial protocol!!! If we think from the

point of

view as to what is that which is actually worshiping, the Atman & Atman is not

stained by

the bleeding, so its fine!!!

>

> Bhava is singularly more important than, mere ritualism. How can we jugde

the depth

of her devotion when the lord does'nt seem to be objecting....

>

> I am reminded of a incident in Mother Mira's life. She wanted to enter a

temple of Lord,

but was denied entry on the grounds that only men are permitted inside the

sanctum. She

smiled at the Panda's, & exclaimed " & What a fool I was to think that My Lord

was the only

male ever born. "

>

> Dry Humor at its Peak.

>

>

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this

wrong? What

is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But this

lady

worships even during her period. What is right?

>

> Thanks,

> Richard

 

> Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.

>

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Richard Ji, I think Mira Bhai was speaking in idiomatic terms when she called Sri Krishna as the "only male" she knew. If I remember correctly, there is a famous pastime about her and one of Sri Chaitanya's Goswamis (sanatana I think) wherein she somehow set him straight pertaining to this point. I forget how the story goes though.Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Hi Abhi,I wonder where Mira got the idea that Krishna was the only male ever born. Obviously she knows about Balaram,

and Arjuna, and all Krishna's sakhas, and Nanda Maharaj, all males. Obviously she was wrong (or right, in her admission of mistake). But to stop Mira from entering a temple of Krishna is also wrong. It can only be the pleasure of the Lord, otherwise how is this all possible.My question is WHO has started this "rule" that womern cannot touch Shalagram?Y/s,Richardsacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote:>> Hello Sir, > > It begins with the lady doesn't it!!! If she is so singularly attachted to the Lord, then it's fine. What is bleeding afterall, a anatonomical feature!!! Suppose a person is visiting a temple, he/she as a mark of respect would not carry leather items into it, might wear a dhoti (as mandatory in some temples). I know of some non-veg people, who conciously avoid eating non-veg

the day they have to visit a temple & above all horny gentlemen who make a exception on the night before they visit the Lord..> > But all this is external. Now, can the lady in question stop periods from taking place, its not a voluntary function!!! while she has the choice of not worshipping the Lord during that phase, but that would breach the celestial protocol!!! If we think from the point of view as to what is that which is actually worshiping, the Atman & Atman is not stained by the bleeding, so its fine!!!> > Bhava is singularly more important than, mere ritualism. How can we jugde the depth of her devotion when the lord does'nt seem to be objecting....> > I am reminded of a incident in Mother Mira's life. She wanted to enter a temple of Lord, but was denied entry on the grounds that only men are permitted inside the sanctum. She smiled at the Panda's, & exclaimed " & What

a fool I was to think that My Lord was the only male ever born." > > Dry Humor at its Peak.> > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her period. What is right?> > Thanks,> Richard> > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.>

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Yes, of course. According to Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu the only " Nayaka " or

beloved (male) is Bhagavan or Krishna. All other from Radharani, plus all

jivatmas are " Nayika " or enjoyed (female). This is in taking the soul, either as

sakha or sakhi, are all nayika or femine as enjoyed, with only Nayaka being God

Himself. The Goswami in question was (apparently) unaware of Mira's Krishna

Prema which he soon discoved to be the case (although it was highly unusual for

women to behave like Mira, who was a sadhu at heart, so it is easy to understand

his mistake).

 

Y/s,

Richard

 

sacred-objects , Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote:

>

> Richard Ji,

>

> I think Mira Bhai was speaking in idiomatic terms when she called Sri

Krishna as the

" only male " she knew. If I remember correctly, there is a famous pastime about

her and

one of Sri Chaitanya's Goswamis (sanatana I think) wherein she somehow set him

straight

pertaining to this point. I forget how the story goes though.

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> Hi Abhi,

>

> I wonder where Mira got the idea that Krishna was the only male ever born.

Obviously

she knows about Balaram, and Arjuna, and all Krishna's sakhas, and Nanda

Maharaj, all

males. Obviously she was wrong (or right, in her admission of mistake). But to

stop Mira

from entering a temple of Krishna is also wrong. It can only be the pleasure of

the Lord,

otherwise how is this all possible.

>

> My question is WHO has started this " rule " that womern cannot touch Shalagram?

>

> Y/s,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Sir,

> >

> > It begins with the lady doesn't it!!! If she is so singularly attachted to

the Lord, then

it's

> fine. What is bleeding afterall, a anatonomical feature!!! Suppose a person is

visiting a

> temple, he/she as a mark of respect would not carry leather items into it,

might wear a

> dhoti (as mandatory in some temples). I know of some non-veg people, who

conciously

> avoid eating non-veg the day they have to visit a temple & above all horny

gentlemen

who

> make a exception on the night before they visit the Lord..

> >

> > But all this is external. Now, can the lady in question stop periods from

taking place,

> its not a voluntary function!!! while she has the choice of not worshipping

the Lord

during

> that phase, but that would breach the celestial protocol!!! If we think from

the point of

> view as to what is that which is actually worshiping, the Atman & Atman is not

stained

by

> the bleeding, so its fine!!!

> >

> > Bhava is singularly more important than, mere ritualism. How can we jugde

the depth

> of her devotion when the lord does'nt seem to be objecting....

> >

> > I am reminded of a incident in Mother Mira's life. She wanted to enter a

temple of

Lord,

> but was denied entry on the grounds that only men are permitted inside the

sanctum.

She

> smiled at the Panda's, & exclaimed " & What a fool I was to think that My Lord

was the

only

> male ever born. "

> >

> > Dry Humor at its Peak.

> >

> >

> >

> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What

> is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But

this

lady

> worships even during her period. What is right?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Richard

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yes Sir, I also hear that ladies were not allowed to get to close to Lord Chaitanya. I learnt that they were allowed Darshana from a distance of min 10 mts, or Mahaprabhu would appear in the Balcony & they used to have his darshana from the ground. Why so!!!! Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Hi Abhi,I wonder where Mira got the idea that Krishna was the only male ever born. Obviously she knows about Balaram,

and Arjuna, and all Krishna's sakhas, and Nanda Maharaj, all males. Obviously she was wrong (or right, in her admission of mistake). But to stop Mira from entering a temple of Krishna is also wrong. It can only be the pleasure of the Lord, otherwise how is this all possible.My question is WHO has started this "rule" that womern cannot touch Shalagram?Y/s,Richardsacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote:>> Hello Sir, > > It begins with the lady doesn't it!!! If she is so singularly attachted to the Lord, then it's fine. What is bleeding afterall, a anatonomical feature!!! Suppose a person is visiting a temple, he/she as a mark of respect would not carry leather items into it, might wear a dhoti (as mandatory in some temples). I know of some non-veg people, who conciously avoid eating non-veg

the day they have to visit a temple & above all horny gentlemen who make a exception on the night before they visit the Lord..> > But all this is external. Now, can the lady in question stop periods from taking place, its not a voluntary function!!! while she has the choice of not worshipping the Lord during that phase, but that would breach the celestial protocol!!! If we think from the point of view as to what is that which is actually worshiping, the Atman & Atman is not stained by the bleeding, so its fine!!!> > Bhava is singularly more important than, mere ritualism. How can we jugde the depth of her devotion when the lord does'nt seem to be objecting....> > I am reminded of a incident in Mother Mira's life. She wanted to enter a temple of Lord, but was denied entry on the grounds that only men are permitted inside the sanctum. She smiled at the Panda's, & exclaimed " & What

a fool I was to think that My Lord was the only male ever born." > > Dry Humor at its Peak.> > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But this lady worships even during her period. What is right?> > Thanks,> Richard> > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.>

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Hi Abhi,

 

LOrd Chaitanya was strict about females because he was playing the part of a

dandi-sanyasi. The case you mention below I have never heard that. Y/s, Richard

 

sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote:

>

> Yes Sir,

>

> I also hear that ladies were not allowed to get to close to Lord Chaitanya.

I learnt that

they were allowed Darshana from a distance of min 10 mts, or Mahaprabhu would

appear

in the Balcony & they used to have his darshana from the ground.

>

> Why so!!!!

>

>

>

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> Hi Abhi,

>

> I wonder where Mira got the idea that Krishna was the only male ever born.

Obviously

she knows about Balaram, and Arjuna, and all Krishna's sakhas, and Nanda

Maharaj, all

males. Obviously she was wrong (or right, in her admission of mistake). But to

stop Mira

from entering a temple of Krishna is also wrong. It can only be the pleasure of

the Lord,

otherwise how is this all possible.

>

> My question is WHO has started this " rule " that womern cannot touch Shalagram?

>

> Y/s,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Sir,

> >

> > It begins with the lady doesn't it!!! If she is so singularly attachted to

the Lord, then

it's

> fine. What is bleeding afterall, a anatonomical feature!!! Suppose a person is

visiting a

> temple, he/she as a mark of respect would not carry leather items into it,

might wear a

> dhoti (as mandatory in some temples). I know of some non-veg people, who

conciously

> avoid eating non-veg the day they have to visit a temple & above all horny

gentlemen

who

> make a exception on the night before they visit the Lord..

> >

> > But all this is external. Now, can the lady in question stop periods from

taking place,

> its not a voluntary function!!! while she has the choice of not worshipping

the Lord

during

> that phase, but that would breach the celestial protocol!!! If we think from

the point of

> view as to what is that which is actually worshiping, the Atman & Atman is not

stained

by

> the bleeding, so its fine!!!

> >

> > Bhava is singularly more important than, mere ritualism. How can we jugde

the depth

> of her devotion when the lord does'nt seem to be objecting....

> >

> > I am reminded of a incident in Mother Mira's life. She wanted to enter a

temple of

Lord,

> but was denied entry on the grounds that only men are permitted inside the

sanctum.

She

> smiled at the Panda's, & exclaimed " & What a fool I was to think that My Lord

was the

only

> male ever born. "

> >

> > Dry Humor at its Peak.

> >

> >

> >

> > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong? What

> is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But

this

lady

> worships even during her period. What is right?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Richard

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.

> >

 

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