Lord Chaitanya surrounded

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It is a bit like Swami Prabhupada. He was open when he came to the USA in 1966.

But soon he was surrounded by the greedy and ambitious who excluded the meek and

humble and took control of the $$$. Making $$$ became the means and the end.

" Krishna " and " Prabhupada " were " selling points. " After Prabhupada's

disappearence those greedy and ambitious people took control of his mission and

kicked out even Prabhupada's own godbrothers. Now they have become a seperate

religion, like Sikhs from Hindus. They are afraid of outsiders or other devotees

for fear of reducing their man-power and income. Just like a normal business. It

is a simple fact of past and present.

 

But those protecting Lord Chaitanya were doing so for spiritual concern. They

were not concerned with money or material power or empire building.

 

Y/s,

Richard

 

sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> Glories to the Diksha Disciple of Lord Ishwarpuri. Infact those close to

Lord Chaitanya

were cautious in allowing even men to come near him, cause Lord used to draw

their

sufferings & take them upon himself, But the lucky ones were benefitted even in

far-off

places like Varanasi. The crowning Glory of the Kula of Ma Katyayani (the

Kula-Mata of

Mishra's) was not limited by geographical locations.

>

> Lord Chaitanya's basic premise for not allowing women within 10 feet (not

mts), was a

pointer to his monastic disciples. But a Lot of his women disciples were

benefiited by his

ceaseless grace nonetheless.

>

> At times he used to give Darshana from a Balcony at the Puri Temple, you can

say i

quote an eyewitness....

>

> May the ceaseless grace of the Regent of Vaishnava World Sanat-Kumara always

uplift

us

>

> & Sir, if i may most humbly add, May the lotus feet of Lord Narayana , the

priordial

one, be in our thoughts.

>

> Aapka Chhota Bhai

> Abhi

>

>

>

>

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> Dear Abhi,

>

> I wanted to also mention about Lord Chaitanya's not meeting with women. He

also

refused to meet the King of Puri, Prataprudra, a man, because he was a king.

Also, Lord

Chaitanya lived in a ground level small bare cell in Puri and NEVER had a

balcony. His was

extreme case of vairagya. He said a vairagi should not even SEE the " wooden form

of a

women " . He was not saying bad about women, rather he was talking about the

inbred

weakness in men. And his advice was for tyagis (only). Y/s, Richard

>

> sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Abhi,

> >

> > LOrd Chaitanya was strict about females because he was playing the part of a

dandi-

> sanyasi. The case you mention below I have never heard that. Y/s, Richard

> >

> > sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes Sir,

> > >

> > > I also hear that ladies were not allowed to get to close to Lord

Chaitanya. I learnt

that

> > they were allowed Darshana from a distance of min 10 mts, or Mahaprabhu

would

> appear

> > in the Balcony & they used to have his darshana from the ground.

> > >

> > > Why so!!!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > Hi Abhi,

> > >

> > > I wonder where Mira got the idea that Krishna was the only male ever born.

Obviously

> > she knows about Balaram, and Arjuna, and all Krishna's sakhas, and Nanda

Maharaj,

all

> > males. Obviously she was wrong (or right, in her admission of mistake). But

to stop

Mira

> > from entering a temple of Krishna is also wrong. It can only be the pleasure

of the

Lord,

> > otherwise how is this all possible.

> > >

> > > My question is WHO has started this " rule " that womern cannot touch

Shalagram?

> > >

> > > Y/s,

> > > Richard

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Sir,

> > > >

> > > > It begins with the lady doesn't it!!! If she is so singularly attachted

to the Lord,

then

> > it's

> > > fine. What is bleeding afterall, a anatonomical feature!!! Suppose a

person is visiting

a

> > > temple, he/she as a mark of respect would not carry leather items into it,

might

wear

> a

> > > dhoti (as mandatory in some temples). I know of some non-veg people, who

> conciously

> > > avoid eating non-veg the day they have to visit a temple & above all horny

gentlemen

> > who

> > > make a exception on the night before they visit the Lord..

> > > >

> > > > But all this is external. Now, can the lady in question stop periods

from taking

> place,

> > > its not a voluntary function!!! while she has the choice of not

worshipping the Lord

> > during

> > > that phase, but that would breach the celestial protocol!!! If we think

from the point

of

> > > view as to what is that which is actually worshiping, the Atman & Atman is

not

stained

> > by

> > > the bleeding, so its fine!!!

> > > >

> > > > Bhava is singularly more important than, mere ritualism. How can we

jugde the

> depth

> > > of her devotion when the lord does'nt seem to be objecting....

> > > >

> > > > I am reminded of a incident in Mother Mira's life. She wanted to enter a

temple of

> > Lord,

> > > but was denied entry on the grounds that only men are permitted inside the

sanctum.

> > She

> > > smiled at the Panda's, & exclaimed " & What a fool I was to think that My

Lord was

the

> > only

> > > male ever born. "

> > > >

> > > > Dry Humor at its Peak.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > > > We know of one women who is worshipping Shalagram Shila. Is this wrong?

What

> > > is the outcome? I heard that ONLY women could worship AFTER menopause. But

this

> > lady

> > > worships even during her period. What is right?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Richard

> > > >

> > > >

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