Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Oh brother!!! Shalagram is a " Shila " murti. A stone. I have not given that title - it is called SHILA... STONE! No one takes their Shila with them. If anyone takes with them at death, then the shila will be missing from the Puja ghar. But we always see that after a bhaktas death the Shila remains to be worshipped by another bhakta. We never see that the shila has disappeared. Also, who is to decide if a bhakta can die or not? Who will enforce this law, " if a aspirant is unable to carry his Shila " along with " him, at the time of leaving the deha , he is not allowed to leave. " --- who will stop him from dying? Who will enforce this? What you are saying is that AS LONG AS A BHAKTA CANNOT TAKE SHALAGRAM SHILA WITH HIM AT DEATH, SO LONG THEY WILL NEVER DIE!!??? What? They will live in the same body forever, until they can manage to make the Shila disappear? Of course a Bhakta does not take " Shila " after death. Otherwise, what Shila will his son or shishya worship if he does this disappearing act? Y/s, R- --- Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote: > Janardana Ji, > > Yes in our tradition if a aspirant is unable to carry his Shila > " alongwith " him, at the time of leaving the deha , he is not allowed > to leave. > > This tradition was established by Lord Sanat Kumara. > > Best > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote: > Namaste Jee... > > Again, I really do think we agree in principle, barring a few > theological differences that would probably be called intellectual > hairsplitting by many. But onto another subject: Have you actually > heard of salagram silas going along with their sevaks after death? > Please elaborate! > > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote: > Kind Sir, Namaskar... > > It would be prudent to state, that Lord is the ultimate cause of > all good. He ensured that there be diamond mines in Sierra Leone, but > he did not cause the conflict's which ensued their discovery. Let us > figuratively think as to what is the ultimate gem he created, i guess > its the, " human being " . > > Whilst a Naga Mani might bring dead back to life, but it cannot > change/alter the inherent nature of a human being. This is the > fundamental difference between a Gem & a Shaligram, a Shaligram has > the ability to infuse Sanskars into a individual. > > The Grace of Shaligram, is all pervading, but if a devotee expects > to " materially " profit from its seva, its sacrilegious!!! > > Shaligram Shilas are not " collector items " , i find some people show > them off in a manner as though they are eye candy. That is not on. > > Gems, are Maya, they shall not go with a person at the time of his > death, while i know of many cases wherein the Shaligram Shilas have > " gone along " , with person who lovingly performed his/her seva to the > Lord. > > Selfless Love is the only Passport to Vaikuntha.... > > Manasa Bhava Re Guru Charnam, Dustara Bhava Sagara Taranam... > > Your friend > Abhi > > > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote: > > > Radhe-Shyam! > > Respected Sir! We are in agreement! Although gems are indeed > material in nature, and Salagram Ji is divine in nature, he is the > ultimate cause of all causes of even the material gemstones you > yourself speak of. Doesn't this indeed make him ultimately > responsible for them, and on some level make him at the very least > all inclusive of a gem (or rather a mundane gem is part and parcel of > him) and more? As far as Salagram ji acting like a gemstone on a > real material level, you are correct in that we should not view them > that way, as that is putting them on a mundane perspective. But, I > am certain that due to their divine potency, on some level they have > even more than the effect of a mundane gemstone. That's all i am > trying to say. In other words they are not " gems " in the mundane > perspective, but precious gems in the divine perspective. > > > > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote: > Jai Sri Radha Brindawana Chandra.... > > Janardana Dasa ji Namaskar, > > Very humbly Sir, I beg to differ from your contention that > Shaligram Shilas are Gems. They are " Esoteric " in nature, whereas > Gemstones are material objects. It is for this reason Navratna's are > bought & sold. > > My question was as to how gemstones, act!!! How they actually bring > about the changes, positive influences attributed to them at a > physical level. This is a very valid query. > > If one does not know the answer, its better to say so, than to > confuse the seeker with the statement, " Do you know how shaligrams > act!!!, it is the same with gemstones " !!! > > As luck would have it, I have discussed my experience as to how > Shaligram Shilas display their grace. Now you think about it, can > there be a bigger boon, than having the Lord for company (in the form > of a Shaligram)!!! > > Namaskar > > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller wrote: > With salagrama sila there is no doubt indeed some gemstone > mechanism at work as in jewels such as ruby, diamond, etc; make no > mistake about this. With that said, it is indeed a type of gem (If > this werent true, then why do some deities all over India wear > alankaram made of salagramas?). > > But more than anything, it should be stressed that the salagrama's > power lies in the fact that it is an actual svayambhu (self > manifest), alive deity that can grant and confer boons on individuals > just as any temple deity can that has undergone prana pratistha > ritual. There is no doubt about this. > > Janardana Dasa > > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu wrote: > Dear Richard Sir, Namaskar!!! > > First things first, Anukulvad Rocks!!!, Pratikulvad sucks, no > question about that. > > Second, I beg to differ from your viewpoint.... Shaligrama is not a > Gem!!!. It's nature is esoteric, whereas Gemstone's are Material > Objects, so questioning their mechanism of action is tenable. > > Also Sir, i do not believe in questioning for the sake of > satisfying dry intellectual pursuit. I agree that some questions > don't have ready answers, but this does not mean contemplation & > genuine discussion on them be avoided. > > I guess, a person who knows the exact answer to the question > concerned; would first have to know, as to how Planetary Bodies exert > their effects on the Anatomy & Physiology of an Individual. Without > knowing the mechanisation of planets!!! one cannot gauge the > mechanism of their gems. > > So if a text/person makes a claim on something, then he should have > the werewithal to back it up. Mere statements are not suffice. > > As far as how Shaligrama Shilas work, technically the Lord performs > a Rakta Shuddhi for the devotee, the DNA & RNA chains are purified & > one becomes free from the negative influences of Pitri Karma & his > own individual Karma. > A external shaligrama paves the way for the cleansning of the > internal Shaligrama called the, " HiranyaGarbha " . > > So as far as this i am concerned, I worship the Lord in the > Shaligrama of my heart. & thru his Pushti i know how it exerts its > postive influences on me. It purifies my blood so that i remain > immune from kleshas & As i allign my cellular structure to his call, > his Gayatri burns my karmic debts. > > May I take this upon myself, that all that i quote is from personal > experience, not info gained from letters or the Garuda Purana!!! > > Best > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > How does a Shalagram Shila exert its energy? Gems are > piezoelectric and enhance ones good points or bad points. One should > always cultivate their beneficial (Anukul) planets, either weak or > strong. Strength (or weakness) of a graha is different than it's > nature. Like we can have a friend who is strong or weak, or an enemy > who is strong or weak. We should resort to our friends and make our > friends stronger (not our enemies). > > Gems also have an astrological effect directly linked to their ruling > deva. Like Shalagram is Vishnu, so Ruby is Surya. If one has exalted > ANUKUL Surya then theie will be increased solar benefit. If one has > exalted PRATIKUL Surya then there will be increased harmful solar > effect. So effect depends on 1) quality and 2) placement. > > Who SAYS gems MUST touch the skin? Even Ratna-daan is most effective, > what to speak of wearing in a kavacha on your body. There is no need > for the gem to directly touch on the skin (nor on the planet), but > the back of the kavacha should be open for light to pass. That is > common sense. > > Again, with Sri Shalagram, how shall the Shila exert its effect, what > specific changes shall take place in the person's body; that shall > specifically enhance the positive spiritual vibrations & How !!!? > Exact Mechanism??? > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta > <benarsibabu wrote: > > > > Hello To All, > > > > In Jyotish we are taught, " Faultless Jewels augment Positive > Planetary Radiations. " Now > say if, the person has an exalted Sun, so Ruby is recommended to be > worn in a gold ring, > preferably in the Ring Finger. (Also Ensuring the Gem touches the > Body) > > > > Then what!!!, > > > > How shall the gem exert its effect, what specific changes shall > take place in the > person's, body; that shall specifically enhance the positive > planetary vibrations & How !!! > > > > Kindly Guide, > > > > Abhishek > > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Richard Ji, LOL!!!! You have a great sense of humor. Best, Janardana DasaRichard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Oh brother!!!Shalagram is a "Shila" murti. A stone. I have not given that title - itis called SHILA... STONE! No one takes their Shila with them. If anyonetakes with them at death, then the shila will be missing from the Pujaghar. But we always see that after a bhaktas death the Shila remains tobe worshipped by another bhakta. We never see that the shila hasdisappeared. Also, who is to decide if a bhakta can die or not? Who will enforcethis law, "if a aspirant is unable to carry his Shila "along with" him,at the time of leaving the deha , he is not allowed to leave." --- whowill stop him from dying? Who will enforce this? What you are saying isthat AS LONG AS A BHAKTA CANNOT TAKE SHALAGRAM SHILA WITH HIM AT DEATH,SO LONG THEY WILL NEVER DIE!!??? What? They will live in the same bodyforever, until they can manage to make the Shila disappear?Of course a Bhakta does not take "Shila" after death. Otherwise, whatShila will his son or shishya worship if he does this disappearing act?Y/s, R---- Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Janardana Ji,> > Yes in our tradition if a aspirant is unable to carry his Shila> "alongwith" him, at the time of leaving the deha , he is not allowed> to leave.> > This tradition was established by Lord Sanat Kumara.> > Best> > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller > wrote:> Namaste Jee...> > Again, I really do think we agree in principle, barring a few> theological differences that would probably be called intellectual> hairsplitting by many. But onto another subject: Have you actually> heard of salagram silas going along with their sevaks after death? > Please elaborate!> > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Kind Sir, Namaskar...> > It would be prudent to state, that Lord is the ultimate cause of> all good. He ensured that there be diamond mines in Sierra Leone, but> he did not cause the conflict's which ensued their discovery. Let us> figuratively think as to what is the ultimate gem he created, i guess> its the, "human being".> > Whilst a Naga Mani might bring dead back to life, but it cannot> change/alter the inherent nature of a human being. This is the> fundamental difference between a Gem & a Shaligram, a Shaligram has> the ability to infuse Sanskars into a individual. > > The Grace of Shaligram, is all pervading, but if a devotee expects> to "materially" profit from its seva, its sacrilegious!!!> > Shaligram Shilas are not "collector items", i find some people show> them off in a manner as though they are eye candy. That is not on.> > Gems, are Maya, they shall not go with a person at the time of his> death, while i know of many cases wherein the Shaligram Shilas have> "gone along", with person who lovingly performed his/her seva to the> Lord.> > Selfless Love is the only Passport to Vaikuntha....> > Manasa Bhava Re Guru Charnam, Dustara Bhava Sagara Taranam...> > Your friend > Abhi> > > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller > wrote:> > > Radhe-Shyam!> > Respected Sir! We are in agreement! Although gems are indeed> material in nature, and Salagram Ji is divine in nature, he is the> ultimate cause of all causes of even the material gemstones you> yourself speak of. Doesn't this indeed make him ultimately> responsible for them, and on some level make him at the very least> all inclusive of a gem (or rather a mundane gem is part and parcel of> him) and more? As far as Salagram ji acting like a gemstone on a> real material level, you are correct in that we should not view them> that way, as that is putting them on a mundane perspective. But, I> am certain that due to their divine potency, on some level they have> even more than the effect of a mundane gemstone. That's all i am> trying to say. In other words they are not "gems" in the mundane> perspective, but precious gems in the divine perspective. > > > > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Jai Sri Radha Brindawana Chandra....> > Janardana Dasa ji Namaskar,> > Very humbly Sir, I beg to differ from your contention that> Shaligram Shilas are Gems. They are "Esoteric" in nature, whereas> Gemstones are material objects. It is for this reason Navratna's are> bought & sold.> > My question was as to how gemstones, act!!! How they actually bring> about the changes, positive influences attributed to them at a> physical level. This is a very valid query.> > If one does not know the answer, its better to say so, than to> confuse the seeker with the statement, "Do you know how shaligrams> act!!!, it is the same with gemstones"!!!> > As luck would have it, I have discussed my experience as to how> Shaligram Shilas display their grace. Now you think about it, can> there be a bigger boon, than having the Lord for company (in the form> of a Shaligram)!!! > > Namaskar> > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller > wrote:> With salagrama sila there is no doubt indeed some gemstone> mechanism at work as in jewels such as ruby, diamond, etc; make no> mistake about this. With that said, it is indeed a type of gem (If> this werent true, then why do some deities all over India wear> alankaram made of salagramas?). > > But more than anything, it should be stressed that the salagrama's> power lies in the fact that it is an actual svayambhu (self> manifest), alive deity that can grant and confer boons on individuals> just as any temple deity can that has undergone prana pratistha> ritual. There is no doubt about this.> > Janardana Dasa> > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Richard Sir, Namaskar!!!> > First things first, Anukulvad Rocks!!!, Pratikulvad sucks, no> question about that.> > Second, I beg to differ from your viewpoint.... Shaligrama is not a> Gem!!!. It's nature is esoteric, whereas Gemstone's are Material> Objects, so questioning their mechanism of action is tenable.> > Also Sir, i do not believe in questioning for the sake of> satisfying dry intellectual pursuit. I agree that some questions> don't have ready answers, but this does not mean contemplation & > genuine discussion on them be avoided.> > I guess, a person who knows the exact answer to the question> concerned; would first have to know, as to how Planetary Bodies exert> their effects on the Anatomy & Physiology of an Individual. Without> knowing the mechanisation of planets!!! one cannot gauge the> mechanism of their gems.> > So if a text/person makes a claim on something, then he should have> the werewithal to back it up. Mere statements are not suffice.> > As far as how Shaligrama Shilas work, technically the Lord performs> a Rakta Shuddhi for the devotee, the DNA & RNA chains are purified & > one becomes free from the negative influences of Pitri Karma & his> own individual Karma.> A external shaligrama paves the way for the cleansning of the> internal Shaligrama called the, "HiranyaGarbha". > > So as far as this i am concerned, I worship the Lord in the> Shaligrama of my heart. & thru his Pushti i know how it exerts its> postive influences on me. It purifies my blood so that i remain> immune from kleshas & As i allign my cellular structure to his call,> his Gayatri burns my karmic debts.> > May I take this upon myself, that all that i quote is from personal> experience, not info gained from letters or the Garuda Purana!!!> > Best> > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:> How does a Shalagram Shila exert its energy? Gems are> piezoelectric and enhance ones good points or bad points. One should> always cultivate their beneficial (Anukul) planets, either weak or> strong. Strength (or weakness) of a graha is different than it's> nature. Like we can have a friend who is strong or weak, or an enemy> who is strong or weak. We should resort to our friends and make our> friends stronger (not our enemies).> > Gems also have an astrological effect directly linked to their ruling> deva. Like Shalagram is Vishnu, so Ruby is Surya. If one has exalted> ANUKUL Surya then theie will be increased solar benefit. If one has> exalted PRATIKUL Surya then there will be increased harmful solar> effect. So effect depends on 1) quality and 2) placement.> > Who SAYS gems MUST touch the skin? Even Ratna-daan is most effective,> what to speak of wearing in a kavacha on your body. There is no need> for the gem to directly touch on the skin (nor on the planet), but> the back of the kavacha should be open for light to pass. That is> common sense.> > Again, with Sri Shalagram, how shall the Shila exert its effect, what> specific changes shall take place in the person's body; that shall> specifically enhance the positive spiritual vibrations & How !!!?> Exact Mechanism???> > Best wishes,> Richard> > sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta> <benarsibabu wrote:> >> > Hello To All,> > > > In Jyotish we are taught, "Faultless Jewels augment Positive> Planetary Radiations." Now > say if, the person has an exalted Sun, so Ruby is recommended to be> worn in a gold ring, > preferably in the Ring Finger. (Also Ensuring the Gem touches the> Body)> > > > Then what!!!, > > > > How shall the gem exert its effect, what specific changes shall> take place in the > person's, body; that shall specifically enhance the positive> planetary vibrations & How !!!> > > > Kindly Guide,> > > > Abhishek > > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click> here.> >> > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online.> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.> Try it now. > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click> here. > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.> Try it now. > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Clickhere.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 O Brother Why Bother !!! Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.It must have been cold there in my shadow,to never have sunlight on your face.You were content to let me shine, that's your way.You always walked a step behind.So I was the one with all the glory,while you were the one with all the strain.A beautiful face without a name for so long.A beautiful smile to hide the pain.Did you ever know that you're my hero,and everything I would like to be?I can fly higher than an eagle,for you are the wind beneath my wings.It might have appeared to go unnoticed,but I've got it all here in my heart.I want you to know I know the truth, of course I know it.I would be nothing without you.Did you ever know that you're my hero?You're everything I wish I could be.I could fly higher than an eagle,for you are the wind beneath my wings.Did I ever tell you you're my hero?You're everything, everything I wish I could be.Oh, and I, I could fly higher than an eagle,for you are the wind beneath my wings,'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.Oh, the wind beneath my wings.You, you, you, you are the wind beneath my wings.Fly, fly, fly away. You let me fly so high.Oh, you, you, you, the wind beneath my wings.Oh, you, you, you, the wind beneath my wings.Fly, fly, fly high against the sky,so high I almost touch the sky.Thank you, thank you,thank God for you, the wind beneath my wings. Best Wishes Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Oh brother!!!Shalagram is a "Shila" murti. A stone. I have not given that title - itis called SHILA... STONE! No one takes their Shila with them. If anyonetakes with them at death, then the shila will be missing from the Pujaghar. But we always see that after a bhaktas death the Shila remains tobe worshipped by another bhakta. We never see that the shila hasdisappeared. Also, who is to decide if a bhakta can die or not? Who will enforcethis law, "if a aspirant is unable to carry his Shila "along with" him,at the time of leaving the deha , he is not allowed to leave." --- whowill stop him from dying? Who will enforce this? What you are saying isthat AS LONG AS A BHAKTA CANNOT TAKE SHALAGRAM SHILA WITH HIM AT DEATH,SO LONG THEY WILL NEVER DIE!!??? What? They will live in the same bodyforever, until they can manage to make the Shila disappear?Of course a Bhakta does not take "Shila" after death. Otherwise, whatShila will his son or shishya worship if he does this disappearing act?Y/s, R---- Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Janardana Ji,> > Yes in our tradition if a aspirant is unable to carry his Shila> "alongwith" him, at the time of leaving the deha , he is not allowed> to leave.> > This tradition was established by Lord Sanat Kumara.> > Best> > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller > wrote:> Namaste Jee...> > Again, I really do think we agree in principle, barring a few> theological differences that would probably be called intellectual> hairsplitting by many. But onto another subject: Have you actually> heard of salagram silas going along with their sevaks after death? > Please elaborate!> > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Kind Sir, Namaskar...> > It would be prudent to state, that Lord is the ultimate cause of> all good. He ensured that there be diamond mines in Sierra Leone, but> he did not cause the conflict's which ensued their discovery. Let us> figuratively think as to what is the ultimate gem he created, i guess> its the, "human being".> > Whilst a Naga Mani might bring dead back to life, but it cannot> change/alter the inherent nature of a human being. This is the> fundamental difference between a Gem & a Shaligram, a Shaligram has> the ability to infuse Sanskars into a individual. > > The Grace of Shaligram, is all pervading, but if a devotee expects> to "materially" profit from its seva, its sacrilegious!!!> > Shaligram Shilas are not "collector items", i find some people show> them off in a manner as though they are eye candy. That is not on.> > Gems, are Maya, they shall not go with a person at the time of his> death, while i know of many cases wherein the Shaligram Shilas have> "gone along", with person who lovingly performed his/her seva to the> Lord.> > Selfless Love is the only Passport to Vaikuntha....> > Manasa Bhava Re Guru Charnam, Dustara Bhava Sagara Taranam...> > Your friend > Abhi> > > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller > wrote:> > > Radhe-Shyam!> > Respected Sir! We are in agreement! Although gems are indeed> material in nature, and Salagram Ji is divine in nature, he is the> ultimate cause of all causes of even the material gemstones you> yourself speak of. Doesn't this indeed make him ultimately> responsible for them, and on some level make him at the very least> all inclusive of a gem (or rather a mundane gem is part and parcel of> him) and more? As far as Salagram ji acting like a gemstone on a> real material level, you are correct in that we should not view them> that way, as that is putting them on a mundane perspective. But, I> am certain that due to their divine potency, on some level they have> even more than the effect of a mundane gemstone. That's all i am> trying to say. In other words they are not "gems" in the mundane> perspective, but precious gems in the divine perspective. > > > > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Jai Sri Radha Brindawana Chandra....> > Janardana Dasa ji Namaskar,> > Very humbly Sir, I beg to differ from your contention that> Shaligram Shilas are Gems. They are "Esoteric" in nature, whereas> Gemstones are material objects. It is for this reason Navratna's are> bought & sold.> > My question was as to how gemstones, act!!! How they actually bring> about the changes, positive influences attributed to them at a> physical level. This is a very valid query.> > If one does not know the answer, its better to say so, than to> confuse the seeker with the statement, "Do you know how shaligrams> act!!!, it is the same with gemstones"!!!> > As luck would have it, I have discussed my experience as to how> Shaligram Shilas display their grace. Now you think about it, can> there be a bigger boon, than having the Lord for company (in the form> of a Shaligram)!!! > > Namaskar> > > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller > wrote:> With salagrama sila there is no doubt indeed some gemstone> mechanism at work as in jewels such as ruby, diamond, etc; make no> mistake about this. With that said, it is indeed a type of gem (If> this werent true, then why do some deities all over India wear> alankaram made of salagramas?). > > But more than anything, it should be stressed that the salagrama's> power lies in the fact that it is an actual svayambhu (self> manifest), alive deity that can grant and confer boons on individuals> just as any temple deity can that has undergone prana pratistha> ritual. There is no doubt about this.> > Janardana Dasa> > Abhishek Dutta <benarsibabu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Richard Sir, Namaskar!!!> > First things first, Anukulvad Rocks!!!, Pratikulvad sucks, no> question about that.> > Second, I beg to differ from your viewpoint.... Shaligrama is not a> Gem!!!. It's nature is esoteric, whereas Gemstone's are Material> Objects, so questioning their mechanism of action is tenable.> > Also Sir, i do not believe in questioning for the sake of> satisfying dry intellectual pursuit. I agree that some questions> don't have ready answers, but this does not mean contemplation & > genuine discussion on them be avoided.> > I guess, a person who knows the exact answer to the question> concerned; would first have to know, as to how Planetary Bodies exert> their effects on the Anatomy & Physiology of an Individual. Without> knowing the mechanisation of planets!!! one cannot gauge the> mechanism of their gems.> > So if a text/person makes a claim on something, then he should have> the werewithal to back it up. Mere statements are not suffice.> > As far as how Shaligrama Shilas work, technically the Lord performs> a Rakta Shuddhi for the devotee, the DNA & RNA chains are purified & > one becomes free from the negative influences of Pitri Karma & his> own individual Karma.> A external shaligrama paves the way for the cleansning of the> internal Shaligrama called the, "HiranyaGarbha". > > So as far as this i am concerned, I worship the Lord in the> Shaligrama of my heart. & thru his Pushti i know how it exerts its> postive influences on me. It purifies my blood so that i remain> immune from kleshas & As i allign my cellular structure to his call,> his Gayatri burns my karmic debts.> > May I take this upon myself, that all that i quote is from personal> experience, not info gained from letters or the Garuda Purana!!!> > Best> > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:> How does a Shalagram Shila exert its energy? Gems are> piezoelectric and enhance ones good points or bad points. One should> always cultivate their beneficial (Anukul) planets, either weak or> strong. Strength (or weakness) of a graha is different than it's> nature. Like we can have a friend who is strong or weak, or an enemy> who is strong or weak. We should resort to our friends and make our> friends stronger (not our enemies).> > Gems also have an astrological effect directly linked to their ruling> deva. Like Shalagram is Vishnu, so Ruby is Surya. If one has exalted> ANUKUL Surya then theie will be increased solar benefit. If one has> exalted PRATIKUL Surya then there will be increased harmful solar> effect. So effect depends on 1) quality and 2) placement.> > Who SAYS gems MUST touch the skin? Even Ratna-daan is most effective,> what to speak of wearing in a kavacha on your body. There is no need> for the gem to directly touch on the skin (nor on the planet), but> the back of the kavacha should be open for light to pass. That is> common sense.> > Again, with Sri Shalagram, how shall the Shila exert its effect, what> specific changes shall take place in the person's body; that shall> specifically enhance the positive spiritual vibrations & How !!!?> Exact Mechanism???> > Best wishes,> Richard> > sacred-objects , Abhishek Dutta> <benarsibabu wrote:> >> > Hello To All,> > > > In Jyotish we are taught, "Faultless Jewels augment Positive> Planetary Radiations." Now > say if, the person has an exalted Sun, so Ruby is recommended to be> worn in a gold ring, > preferably in the Ring Finger. (Also Ensuring the Gem touches the> Body)> > > > Then what!!!, > > > > How shall the gem exert its effect, what specific changes shall> take place in the > person's, body; that shall specifically enhance the positive> planetary vibrations & How !!!> > > > Kindly Guide,> > > > Abhishek > > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click> here.> >> > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online.> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.> Try it now. > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click> here. > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.> Try it now. > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Clickhere.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 I think the Exact Mechanism of Action of a Shaligram Shila OR any other DIVYA VASTU, such as a fine ruby. is the object's bona fide connection to a ruling Deity. In case of Shalagram it is ruled by Lord Vishna or Krishna or Rama, etc... Vishnu tattva. In case of ruby it is ruled by Suryadeva. In case of natural pearl is ruled by Chandra, in case of Tulasi is ruled by Bhakti Devi, etc. The Exact Mechanism of Action of a sacred object is it's Ruling Deity. And for this there can never be a scientific proof, because it is " divya. " There is no need to take a Shalagram shila after death because if one goes to Golok or Vaikuntha the Lord is already there waiting (no need to take him). Y/s, R- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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