Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 A good example is gold. It has FACE VALUE if you believe or not. A $1,000 ruby or diamond is worth $1,000 regardless if you believe they have powers or not. Gem and precious metals have HARD VALUE.On the other extreme is Rudraksha, which has "0" HARD VALUE. It is a worthless seed anywhere and everywhere. ONLY FAITH gives it value. In the world it has no HARD value what-so-ever. So a Rudraksha MUST give good luck because THAT (LUCK) it a Rudraksha's ONLY WORTH. So a seller of Rudraksha MUST give guarantee of GOOD LUCK.But when selling precious gems and metals HARD VALUE is there. No one can charge even ONE PENNY for the LUCK or astral powers of gems and precious metals. They are precious. THAT is the value. If one could guarantee a gem would give good luck then they could charge a MILLION $$$ each, and get it. But we cannot sell precious gems and metals for higher-than-value based on faith.Yet the value and demand for Rudraksha is based 100% on "faith value" ONLY. Just the opposite of gems and precious metals which have global FACE VALUE as HARD ASSET with no question of faith or luck.Interesting!Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 WIsh if people value and understand it,otherwise its a wishful thinking in todays' commercial world where nothing is offered free.Everything can be bought with money.Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: A good example is gold. It has FACE VALUE if you believe or not. A $1,000 ruby or diamond is worth $1,000 regardless if you believe they have powers or not. Gem and precious metals have HARD VALUE.On the other extreme is Rudraksha, which has "0" HARD VALUE. It is a worthless seed anywhere and everywhere. ONLY FAITH gives it value. In the world it has no HARD value what-so-ever. So a Rudraksha MUST give good luck because THAT (LUCK) it a Rudraksha's ONLY WORTH. So a seller of Rudraksha MUST give guarantee of GOOD LUCK.But when selling precious gems and metals HARD VALUE is there. No one can charge even ONE PENNY for the LUCK or astral powers of gems and precious metals. They are precious. THAT is the value. If one could guarantee a gem would give good luck then they could charge a MILLION $$$ each, and get it. But we cannot sell precious gems and metals for higher-than-value based on faith.Yet the value and demand for Rudraksha is based 100% on "faith value" ONLY. Just the opposite of gems and precious metals which have global FACE VALUE as HARD ASSET with no question of faith or luck.Interesting!Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. mridul Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 dear friend gold is a commodity which is used for various purposes. it is meant for decoration, for making ornaments and for making idols and rich temples like tirumala and amritsar have their entire temple goldsheeted. some rich people even use gold utensils, spoons and plates. swarna bhasmam (gold powder) is also used for medicinal purpose. because of its many usages and its scarce availability, it commands a price purely based on demand supply gap. after crude oil, gold is the second most traded (gambled) commodity in futures and options where many gamblers jack up or bring down the prices for their own reasons. hence all countries in the world reckon gold as a traded product and also as a product on which people bet and gamble in exchanges. precious stones were available aplenty centuries ago when population was less. many people those days used to wear a complete pearl necklace containing hundred percent natural sea pearls. however, with population explosion and increased demand for precious stones, their rates went high and availability has become marginal. here too gems are used both as ornaments and as remedies for planets. coming to rudraksha, it has no different uses like gold or stones. it is not worn as an ornament. all sadhus and saints (renounced people) wear rudraksha. decades ago, only five mukhi were worn mostly since that was available in abundance and is easily affordable even by a poor person. but with more people getting interested in wearing rudraksha, the demand has increased for other mukhi rudrakshas as people generally go for those types which are not available. you observe 100 shops and no where people come to shop for 5 mukhi rudraksha. hardly 1 percent customers are interested in five mukhi which comes for the price of a cup of tea. all are interested in knowing other types which are costly or rarely available. hence the not so easily available rudraksha command a premium price which is natural when market dynamics are applied. however, as you observed rightly, it is not just the face value or the demand supply that is attributing ever increasing value for a rudrkasha. it is the faith value which the customer puts in it considering it as an embodiment of lord shiva, representing so and so diety as its lord and it giving so and so benefit etc. any value is not high in matters of faith and we cannot comapre rudraksha with gold or stones. those having faith in a particular god, donate crores of rupees for construction of their temples. similarly some sikhs having faith in their gurus, construct crores of worth gurudwaras, some gujaratis donated crores to construct palatial ashrams all in the name of faith. similar donations of billions of rupess happen in all religious faiths. if you compare the amount people donate for their religious faith in construction of temples and other holy ashrams etc., the amount spent on buying rudraksha is only a fraction and miniscule compared to the billions donated for these palatial temples or ashrams. for example, one of my satisfied customers after wearing rudraksha decided to help others and is donating one rudrksha every month because of the faith that it worked for him and it will and is working for others too. here some sceptics may say that what if it does not work. i advise all my customers beforehand that if at any point of time in their future life, they feel that this rudraksha has not benefited them, they are at liberty to return and i will refund the full payment they made. i must have supplied rudraksha to thousands of customers since many years, and till date only one person asked for refund and instantly he got the whole amount he paid. so the value of faith is protected by me and faith never fails. hence my submission is that faith is priceless. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > A good example is gold. It has FACE VALUE if you believe or not. A $1,000 ruby or diamond is worth $1,000 regardless if you believe they have powers or not. Gem and precious metals have HARD VALUE. > > On the other extreme is Rudraksha, which has " 0 " HARD VALUE. It is a worthless seed anywhere and everywhere. ONLY FAITH gives it value. In the world it has no HARD value what-so-ever. So a Rudraksha MUST give good luck because THAT (LUCK) it a Rudraksha's ONLY WORTH. So a seller of Rudraksha MUST give guarantee of GOOD LUCK. > > But when selling precious gems and metals HARD VALUE is there. No one can charge even ONE PENNY for the LUCK or astral powers of gems and precious metals. They are precious. THAT is the value. If one could guarantee a gem would give good luck then they could charge a MILLION $$$ each, and get it. But we cannot sell precious gems and metals for higher-than-value based on faith. > > Yet the value and demand for Rudraksha is based 100% on " faith value " ONLY. Just the opposite of gems and precious metals which have global FACE VALUE as HARD ASSET with no question of faith or luck. > > Interesting! > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Dear Pandit, Namaste!!! I have a simple question: HOW CAN SOMETHING WITH A " PRICE " BE PRICELESS? It is absurd! Take your entire collection of Rudraksha and other PRICELESS objects to a PAWN SHOP or BANK and THEN you will know the meaning of " priceless. " When there is a price it canNOT be called priceless. And when we take a price from a customer we are responsible to give them equal and fair value for that PRICE. PRICELESS MEANS: 1) Not for sale even for all the money on Earth; or 2) Free! You cannot calculate a material PRICE for " faith " which is intangible. And I cannot sell my jewelry for over-value based on the " value " of faith. First of all, " whose faith? " Seller's faith? or buyers faith? Who sets the value of faith? People who sell FAITH must assure good fortune to their clients, because " good fortune " is all they are getting. If client doesn't get good fortune from a " faith object " then they have spent their hard-earned money on nothing. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend > > gold is a commodity which is used for various purposes. it is meant > for decoration, for making ornaments and for making idols and rich > temples like tirumala and amritsar have their entire temple > goldsheeted. some rich people even use gold utensils, spoons and > plates. swarna bhasmam (gold powder) is also used for medicinal > purpose. because of its many usages and its scarce availability, it > commands a price purely based on demand supply gap. after crude oil, > gold is the second most traded (gambled) commodity in futures and > options where many gamblers jack up or bring down the prices for > their own reasons. hence all countries in the world reckon gold as a > traded product and also as a product on which people bet and gamble > in exchanges. > > precious stones were available aplenty centuries ago when population > was less. many people those days used to wear a complete pearl > necklace containing hundred percent natural sea pearls. however, > with population explosion and increased demand for precious stones, > their rates went high and availability has become marginal. here too > gems are used both as ornaments and as remedies for planets. > > coming to rudraksha, it has no different uses like gold or stones. > it is not worn as an ornament. all sadhus and saints (renounced > people) wear rudraksha. decades ago, only five mukhi were worn > mostly since that was available in abundance and is easily affordable > even by a poor person. but with more people getting interested in > wearing rudraksha, the demand has increased for other mukhi > rudrakshas as people generally go for those types which are not > available. you observe 100 shops and no where people come to shop > for 5 mukhi rudraksha. hardly 1 percent customers are interested in > five mukhi which comes for the price of a cup of tea. all are > interested in knowing other types which are costly or rarely > available. hence the not so easily available rudraksha command a > premium price which is natural when market dynamics are applied. > > however, as you observed rightly, it is not just the face value or > the demand supply that is attributing ever increasing value for a > rudrkasha. it is the faith value which the customer puts in it > considering it as an embodiment of lord shiva, representing so and so > diety as its lord and it giving so and so benefit etc. any value is > not high in matters of faith and we cannot comapre rudraksha with > gold or stones. > > those having faith in a particular god, donate crores of rupees for > construction of their temples. similarly some sikhs having faith in > their gurus, construct crores of worth gurudwaras, some gujaratis > donated crores to construct palatial ashrams all in the name of > faith. similar donations of billions of rupess happen in all > religious faiths. if you compare the amount people donate for their > religious faith in construction of temples and other holy ashrams > etc., the amount spent on buying rudraksha is only a fraction and > miniscule compared to the billions donated for these palatial temples > or ashrams. > > for example, one of my satisfied customers after wearing rudraksha > decided to help others and is donating one rudrksha every month > because of the faith that it worked for him and it will and is > working for others too. here some sceptics may say that what if it > does not work. i advise all my customers beforehand that if at any > point of time in their future life, they feel that this rudraksha has > not benefited them, they are at liberty to return and i will refund > the full payment they made. i must have supplied rudraksha to > thousands of customers since many years, and till date only one > person asked for refund and instantly he got the whole amount he > paid. so the value of faith is protected by me and faith never fails. > > hence my submission is that faith is priceless. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > A good example is gold. It has FACE VALUE if you believe or not. A > $1,000 ruby or diamond is worth $1,000 regardless if you believe they > have powers or not. Gem and precious metals have HARD VALUE. > > > > On the other extreme is Rudraksha, which has " 0 " HARD VALUE. It is > a worthless seed anywhere and everywhere. ONLY FAITH gives it value. > In the world it has no HARD value what-so-ever. So a Rudraksha MUST > give good luck because THAT (LUCK) it a Rudraksha's ONLY WORTH. So a > seller of Rudraksha MUST give guarantee of GOOD LUCK. > > > > But when selling precious gems and metals HARD VALUE is there. No > one can charge even ONE PENNY for the LUCK or astral powers of gems > and precious metals. They are precious. THAT is the value. If one > could guarantee a gem would give good luck then they could charge a > MILLION $$$ each, and get it. But we cannot sell precious gems and > metals for higher-than-value based on faith. > > > > Yet the value and demand for Rudraksha is based 100% on " faith > value " ONLY. Just the opposite of gems and precious metals which have > global FACE VALUE as HARD ASSET with no question of faith or luck. > > > > Interesting! > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 dear friend your concern is understandable and the pricelessness is attributed to faith and not a product. fixing a price to a product is different from faith which is priceless. hope i am clear in differentiating faith which has no value and product which has a value. your second para concern was answered by me earlier by saying that it is the CUSTOMER'S FAITH in the product that it gives so and so benefit. you may appreciate that i respect my customer's faith and accordingly his faith value is protected with a 100 percent buyback guarantee in case his faith fails. i do not take extreme positions of either the whole wealth is not sufficient for pricelessness nor it is absolutely free since it is priceless. let me sum up in simple language. the rudraksha which i sell has a price. but the faith the customer puts in it for giving so and so benefit or relieve his suffering etc., is priceless. to make things even simpler, the customer puts his faith in the rudraksha and hence to respect their faith i offer the full refund in case his faith fails for whatever reason. it is a win win situation for the customer. if he gets the benefit, his faith did not fail and he feels happy for it. if he does not get the benefit, his faith may fail in getting the benefit, but his faith in the product and the supplier is intact since he would not lose a single paisa and he gets the full refund. so you consider any situation, and the customer is always happy whichever way you see his faith. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Pandit, > > Namaste!!! I have a simple question: HOW CAN SOMETHING WITH A " PRICE " > BE PRICELESS? It is absurd! Take your entire collection of Rudraksha > and other PRICELESS objects to a PAWN SHOP or BANK and THEN you will > know the meaning of " priceless. " When there is a price it canNOT be > called priceless. And when we take a price from a customer we are > responsible to give them equal and fair value for that PRICE. > > PRICELESS MEANS: > 1) Not for sale even for all the money on Earth; > or > 2) Free! > > You cannot calculate a material PRICE for " faith " which is intangible. > And I cannot sell my jewelry for over-value based on the " value " of > faith. First of all, " whose faith? " Seller's faith? or buyers faith? > Who sets the value of faith? People who sell FAITH must assure good > fortune to their clients, because " good fortune " is all they are > getting. If client doesn't get good fortune from a " faith object " then > they have spent their hard-earned money on nothing. > > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend > > > > gold is a commodity which is used for various purposes. it is meant > > for decoration, for making ornaments and for making idols and rich > > temples like tirumala and amritsar have their entire temple > > goldsheeted. some rich people even use gold utensils, spoons and > > plates. swarna bhasmam (gold powder) is also used for medicinal > > purpose. because of its many usages and its scarce availability, it > > commands a price purely based on demand supply gap. after crude oil, > > gold is the second most traded (gambled) commodity in futures and > > options where many gamblers jack up or bring down the prices for > > their own reasons. hence all countries in the world reckon gold as a > > traded product and also as a product on which people bet and gamble > > in exchanges. > > > > precious stones were available aplenty centuries ago when population > > was less. many people those days used to wear a complete pearl > > necklace containing hundred percent natural sea pearls. however, > > with population explosion and increased demand for precious stones, > > their rates went high and availability has become marginal. here too > > gems are used both as ornaments and as remedies for planets. > > > > coming to rudraksha, it has no different uses like gold or stones. > > it is not worn as an ornament. all sadhus and saints (renounced > > people) wear rudraksha. decades ago, only five mukhi were worn > > mostly since that was available in abundance and is easily affordable > > even by a poor person. but with more people getting interested in > > wearing rudraksha, the demand has increased for other mukhi > > rudrakshas as people generally go for those types which are not > > available. you observe 100 shops and no where people come to shop > > for 5 mukhi rudraksha. hardly 1 percent customers are interested in > > five mukhi which comes for the price of a cup of tea. all are > > interested in knowing other types which are costly or rarely > > available. hence the not so easily available rudraksha command a > > premium price which is natural when market dynamics are applied. > > > > however, as you observed rightly, it is not just the face value or > > the demand supply that is attributing ever increasing value for a > > rudrkasha. it is the faith value which the customer puts in it > > considering it as an embodiment of lord shiva, representing so and so > > diety as its lord and it giving so and so benefit etc. any value is > > not high in matters of faith and we cannot comapre rudraksha with > > gold or stones. > > > > those having faith in a particular god, donate crores of rupees for > > construction of their temples. similarly some sikhs having faith in > > their gurus, construct crores of worth gurudwaras, some gujaratis > > donated crores to construct palatial ashrams all in the name of > > faith. similar donations of billions of rupess happen in all > > religious faiths. if you compare the amount people donate for their > > religious faith in construction of temples and other holy ashrams > > etc., the amount spent on buying rudraksha is only a fraction and > > miniscule compared to the billions donated for these palatial temples > > or ashrams. > > > > for example, one of my satisfied customers after wearing rudraksha > > decided to help others and is donating one rudrksha every month > > because of the faith that it worked for him and it will and is > > working for others too. here some sceptics may say that what if it > > does not work. i advise all my customers beforehand that if at any > > point of time in their future life, they feel that this rudraksha has > > not benefited them, they are at liberty to return and i will refund > > the full payment they made. i must have supplied rudraksha to > > thousands of customers since many years, and till date only one > > person asked for refund and instantly he got the whole amount he > > paid. so the value of faith is protected by me and faith never fails. > > > > hence my submission is that faith is priceless. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > A good example is gold. It has FACE VALUE if you believe or not. A > > $1,000 ruby or diamond is worth $1,000 regardless if you believe they > > have powers or not. Gem and precious metals have HARD VALUE. > > > > > > On the other extreme is Rudraksha, which has " 0 " HARD VALUE. It is > > a worthless seed anywhere and everywhere. ONLY FAITH gives it value. > > In the world it has no HARD value what-so-ever. So a Rudraksha MUST > > give good luck because THAT (LUCK) it a Rudraksha's ONLY WORTH. So a > > seller of Rudraksha MUST give guarantee of GOOD LUCK. > > > > > > But when selling precious gems and metals HARD VALUE is there. No > > one can charge even ONE PENNY for the LUCK or astral powers of gems > > and precious metals. They are precious. THAT is the value. If one > > could guarantee a gem would give good luck then they could charge a > > MILLION $$$ each, and get it. But we cannot sell precious gems and > > metals for higher-than-value based on faith. > > > > > > Yet the value and demand for Rudraksha is based 100% on " faith > > value " ONLY. Just the opposite of gems and precious metals which have > > global FACE VALUE as HARD ASSET with no question of faith or luck. > > > > > > Interesting! > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Dear Pandit, Namaste!!! When dealing in worthless material items, to which some one attributes mystical powers, the ONLY value is good luck. So if you are giving " guarantee of good luck " then you can easily charge one million dollars for a Rudraksha with money back guarantee. Who will not pay any price possible for " guaranteed good luck " with money back guarantee. I know plenty of such people. But I am not sure of your guaranteed luck, so I can't recommend them to you. So the question is: HOW do you reach your material money price for Rudraksha? How does anyone? And if luck is guaranteed with money back assurance then why so cheap? Or expensive? If you blame your suppliers then how do THEY figure a price? Where does this price come from? Who has defiled the PRICELESS with a certain price? When selling ONLY " good luck " your way of doing business sounds best. In our gem business we cannot charge even one penny for good luck or faith. We sell sacred objects that actually have MATERIAL VALUE, and retail price is all I can charge. Many people have faith that gems also have powers, but I can't assure that, and I can only charge standard retail jewelry price based on material world market hard value. And the client has REAL VALUE for their money. Because gems are material objects they have material value and we pay material money. But if Rudraksha is ONLY guaranteed invisible 'spiritual value' then why do we involve 'material money'? Why not pay with invisible spiritual money? Bottom line is WHO CALCULATES THE PRICE OF THE PRICELESS? Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend > > your concern is understandable and the pricelessness is attributed to > faith and not a product. fixing a price to a product is different > from faith which is priceless. hope i am clear in differentiating > faith which has no value and product which has a value. > > your second para concern was answered by me earlier by saying that it > is the CUSTOMER'S FAITH in the product that it gives so and so > benefit. you may appreciate that i respect my customer's faith and > accordingly his faith value is protected with a 100 percent buyback > guarantee in case his faith fails. > > i do not take extreme positions of either the whole wealth is not > sufficient for pricelessness nor it is absolutely free since it is > priceless. > > let me sum up in simple language. the rudraksha which i sell has a > price. but the faith the customer puts in it for giving so and so > benefit or relieve his suffering etc., is priceless. to make things > even simpler, the customer puts his faith in the rudraksha and hence > to respect their faith i offer the full refund in case his faith > fails for whatever reason. it is a win win situation for the > customer. if he gets the benefit, his faith did not fail and he > feels happy for it. if he does not get the benefit, his faith may > fail in getting the benefit, but his faith in the product and the > supplier is intact since he would not lose a single paisa and he gets > the full refund. so you consider any situation, and the customer is > always happy whichever way you see his faith. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pandit, > > > > Namaste!!! I have a simple question: HOW CAN SOMETHING WITH > A " PRICE " > > BE PRICELESS? It is absurd! Take your entire collection of Rudraksha > > and other PRICELESS objects to a PAWN SHOP or BANK and THEN you will > > know the meaning of " priceless. " When there is a price it canNOT be > > called priceless. And when we take a price from a customer we are > > responsible to give them equal and fair value for that PRICE. > > > > PRICELESS MEANS: > > 1) Not for sale even for all the money on Earth; > > or > > 2) Free! > > > > You cannot calculate a material PRICE for " faith " which is > intangible. > > And I cannot sell my jewelry for over-value based on the " value " of > > faith. First of all, " whose faith? " Seller's faith? or buyers faith? > > Who sets the value of faith? People who sell FAITH must assure good > > fortune to their clients, because " good fortune " is all they are > > getting. If client doesn't get good fortune from a " faith object " > then > > they have spent their hard-earned money on nothing. > > > > Y/s, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > gold is a commodity which is used for various purposes. it is > meant > > > for decoration, for making ornaments and for making idols and > rich > > > temples like tirumala and amritsar have their entire temple > > > goldsheeted. some rich people even use gold utensils, spoons and > > > plates. swarna bhasmam (gold powder) is also used for medicinal > > > purpose. because of its many usages and its scarce availability, > it > > > commands a price purely based on demand supply gap. after crude > oil, > > > gold is the second most traded (gambled) commodity in futures and > > > options where many gamblers jack up or bring down the prices for > > > their own reasons. hence all countries in the world reckon gold > as a > > > traded product and also as a product on which people bet and > gamble > > > in exchanges. > > > > > > precious stones were available aplenty centuries ago when > population > > > was less. many people those days used to wear a complete pearl > > > necklace containing hundred percent natural sea pearls. however, > > > with population explosion and increased demand for precious > stones, > > > their rates went high and availability has become marginal. here > too > > > gems are used both as ornaments and as remedies for planets. > > > > > > coming to rudraksha, it has no different uses like gold or > stones. > > > it is not worn as an ornament. all sadhus and saints (renounced > > > people) wear rudraksha. decades ago, only five mukhi were worn > > > mostly since that was available in abundance and is easily > affordable > > > even by a poor person. but with more people getting interested > in > > > wearing rudraksha, the demand has increased for other mukhi > > > rudrakshas as people generally go for those types which are not > > > available. you observe 100 shops and no where people come to > shop > > > for 5 mukhi rudraksha. hardly 1 percent customers are interested > in > > > five mukhi which comes for the price of a cup of tea. all are > > > interested in knowing other types which are costly or rarely > > > available. hence the not so easily available rudraksha command a > > > premium price which is natural when market dynamics are applied. > > > > > > however, as you observed rightly, it is not just the face value > or > > > the demand supply that is attributing ever increasing value for a > > > rudrkasha. it is the faith value which the customer puts in it > > > considering it as an embodiment of lord shiva, representing so > and so > > > diety as its lord and it giving so and so benefit etc. any value > is > > > not high in matters of faith and we cannot comapre rudraksha with > > > gold or stones. > > > > > > those having faith in a particular god, donate crores of rupees > for > > > construction of their temples. similarly some sikhs having faith > in > > > their gurus, construct crores of worth gurudwaras, some gujaratis > > > donated crores to construct palatial ashrams all in the name of > > > faith. similar donations of billions of rupess happen in all > > > religious faiths. if you compare the amount people donate for > their > > > religious faith in construction of temples and other holy ashrams > > > etc., the amount spent on buying rudraksha is only a fraction and > > > miniscule compared to the billions donated for these palatial > temples > > > or ashrams. > > > > > > for example, one of my satisfied customers after wearing > rudraksha > > > decided to help others and is donating one rudrksha every month > > > because of the faith that it worked for him and it will and is > > > working for others too. here some sceptics may say that what if > it > > > does not work. i advise all my customers beforehand that if at > any > > > point of time in their future life, they feel that this rudraksha > has > > > not benefited them, they are at liberty to return and i will > refund > > > the full payment they made. i must have supplied rudraksha to > > > thousands of customers since many years, and till date only one > > > person asked for refund and instantly he got the whole amount he > > > paid. so the value of faith is protected by me and faith never > fails. > > > > > > hence my submission is that faith is priceless. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > A good example is gold. It has FACE VALUE if you believe or > not. A > > > $1,000 ruby or diamond is worth $1,000 regardless if you believe > they > > > have powers or not. Gem and precious metals have HARD VALUE. > > > > > > > > On the other extreme is Rudraksha, which has " 0 " HARD VALUE. It > is > > > a worthless seed anywhere and everywhere. ONLY FAITH gives it > value. > > > In the world it has no HARD value what-so-ever. So a Rudraksha > MUST > > > give good luck because THAT (LUCK) it a Rudraksha's ONLY WORTH. > So a > > > seller of Rudraksha MUST give guarantee of GOOD LUCK. > > > > > > > > But when selling precious gems and metals HARD VALUE is there. > No > > > one can charge even ONE PENNY for the LUCK or astral powers of > gems > > > and precious metals. They are precious. THAT is the value. If one > > > could guarantee a gem would give good luck then they could charge > a > > > MILLION $$$ each, and get it. But we cannot sell precious gems > and > > > metals for higher-than-value based on faith. > > > > > > > > Yet the value and demand for Rudraksha is based 100% on " faith > > > value " ONLY. Just the opposite of gems and precious metals which > have > > > global FACE VALUE as HARD ASSET with no question of faith or luck. > > > > > > > > Interesting! > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 dear richardji, namaste. your observation is valid but i do not take any money for the faith at all. the cost of buying the rudrakshas plus expenses involved by me in going to the temple where we do exclusive rudrabhishekam to these rudrakshas and then my website running expenses and other miscllaneous expenses are all covered in the retail prices. round ek mukh rudraksha is something which i dont have any stock and i make it available only when someone asks for it, which happens once in a year or so. if you observe, my repeated postings and my consistent stated stand is that i sell only upto 14mukh rudraksha. even though 15mukhi to 28mukhi are made available by my suppliers and cost into some millions of rupees, i have not even touched 15mukhi and above till date, since i follow shivapurana and find no mention of the higher mukhis. if others sell, i dont find fault with them, but i dont deal with them. hence any rudraksha buyer can have a opinion on me that i make available only 1 to 14mukhi round rudrakshas and dont sell these rudraksha on the faith value and the price at which they are sold is to cover the expenses of making it available. pricelessness is attributed to the faith. a person having faith in a god build a temple for that god. a person having faith in a person i.e. guru or swami, he builds an ashram for him. a simple rudraksha buyer having found his faith true in getting the benefits after wearing, recommends it to his near and dear. as regards gems in which you are dealing, after seeing the photographs of your products, i was convinced that you can make available genuine flawless gems and have recommended your name to several customers of mine who were interested in buying gems and were not finding a trusted source. by the way, recently one of my customers was interested in a natural pearl of large size and sometime back you got a prized collection of 8 carats basra pearl. if you are still having it, kindly share a photograph of it in the group so that i would ask my customer to see it. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Pandit, > > Namaste!!! When dealing in worthless material items, to which some one > attributes mystical powers, the ONLY value is good luck. So if you are > giving " guarantee of good luck " then you can easily charge one million > dollars for a Rudraksha with money back guarantee. Who will not pay > any price possible for " guaranteed good luck " with money back > guarantee. I know plenty of such people. But I am not sure of your > guaranteed luck, so I can't recommend them to you. > > So the question is: HOW do you reach your material money price for > Rudraksha? How does anyone? And if luck is guaranteed with money back > assurance then why so cheap? Or expensive? If you blame your suppliers > then how do THEY figure a price? Where does this price come from? Who > has defiled the PRICELESS with a certain price? > > When selling ONLY " good luck " your way of doing business sounds best. > > In our gem business we cannot charge even one penny for good luck or > faith. We sell sacred objects that actually have MATERIAL VALUE, and > retail price is all I can charge. Many people have faith that gems > also have powers, but I can't assure that, and I can only charge > standard retail jewelry price based on material world market hard > value. And the client has REAL VALUE for their money. Because gems are > material objects they have material value and we pay material money. > > But if Rudraksha is ONLY guaranteed invisible 'spiritual value' then > why do we involve 'material money'? Why not pay with invisible > spiritual money? > > Bottom line is WHO CALCULATES THE PRICE OF THE PRICELESS? > > Y/s, > Richard > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friend > > > > your concern is understandable and the pricelessness is attributed to > > faith and not a product. fixing a price to a product is different > > from faith which is priceless. hope i am clear in differentiating > > faith which has no value and product which has a value. > > > > your second para concern was answered by me earlier by saying that it > > is the CUSTOMER'S FAITH in the product that it gives so and so > > benefit. you may appreciate that i respect my customer's faith and > > accordingly his faith value is protected with a 100 percent buyback > > guarantee in case his faith fails. > > > > i do not take extreme positions of either the whole wealth is not > > sufficient for pricelessness nor it is absolutely free since it is > > priceless. > > > > let me sum up in simple language. the rudraksha which i sell has a > > price. but the faith the customer puts in it for giving so and so > > benefit or relieve his suffering etc., is priceless. to make things > > even simpler, the customer puts his faith in the rudraksha and hence > > to respect their faith i offer the full refund in case his faith > > fails for whatever reason. it is a win win situation for the > > customer. if he gets the benefit, his faith did not fail and he > > feels happy for it. if he does not get the benefit, his faith may > > fail in getting the benefit, but his faith in the product and the > > supplier is intact since he would not lose a single paisa and he gets > > the full refund. so you consider any situation, and the customer is > > always happy whichever way you see his faith. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit, > > > > > > Namaste!!! I have a simple question: HOW CAN SOMETHING WITH > > A " PRICE " > > > BE PRICELESS? It is absurd! Take your entire collection of Rudraksha > > > and other PRICELESS objects to a PAWN SHOP or BANK and THEN you will > > > know the meaning of " priceless. " When there is a price it canNOT be > > > called priceless. And when we take a price from a customer we are > > > responsible to give them equal and fair value for that PRICE. > > > > > > PRICELESS MEANS: > > > 1) Not for sale even for all the money on Earth; > > > or > > > 2) Free! > > > > > > You cannot calculate a material PRICE for " faith " which is > > intangible. > > > And I cannot sell my jewelry for over-value based on the " value " of > > > faith. First of all, " whose faith? " Seller's faith? or buyers faith? > > > Who sets the value of faith? People who sell FAITH must assure good > > > fortune to their clients, because " good fortune " is all they are > > > getting. If client doesn't get good fortune from a " faith object " > > then > > > they have spent their hard-earned money on nothing. > > > > > > Y/s, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > gold is a commodity which is used for various purposes. it is > > meant > > > > for decoration, for making ornaments and for making idols and > > rich > > > > temples like tirumala and amritsar have their entire temple > > > > goldsheeted. some rich people even use gold utensils, spoons and > > > > plates. swarna bhasmam (gold powder) is also used for medicinal > > > > purpose. because of its many usages and its scarce availability, > > it > > > > commands a price purely based on demand supply gap. after crude > > oil, > > > > gold is the second most traded (gambled) commodity in futures and > > > > options where many gamblers jack up or bring down the prices for > > > > their own reasons. hence all countries in the world reckon gold > > as a > > > > traded product and also as a product on which people bet and > > gamble > > > > in exchanges. > > > > > > > > precious stones were available aplenty centuries ago when > > population > > > > was less. many people those days used to wear a complete pearl > > > > necklace containing hundred percent natural sea pearls. however, > > > > with population explosion and increased demand for precious > > stones, > > > > their rates went high and availability has become marginal. here > > too > > > > gems are used both as ornaments and as remedies for planets. > > > > > > > > coming to rudraksha, it has no different uses like gold or > > stones. > > > > it is not worn as an ornament. all sadhus and saints (renounced > > > > people) wear rudraksha. decades ago, only five mukhi were worn > > > > mostly since that was available in abundance and is easily > > affordable > > > > even by a poor person. but with more people getting interested > > in > > > > wearing rudraksha, the demand has increased for other mukhi > > > > rudrakshas as people generally go for those types which are not > > > > available. you observe 100 shops and no where people come to > > shop > > > > for 5 mukhi rudraksha. hardly 1 percent customers are interested > > in > > > > five mukhi which comes for the price of a cup of tea. all are > > > > interested in knowing other types which are costly or rarely > > > > available. hence the not so easily available rudraksha command a > > > > premium price which is natural when market dynamics are applied. > > > > > > > > however, as you observed rightly, it is not just the face value > > or > > > > the demand supply that is attributing ever increasing value for a > > > > rudrkasha. it is the faith value which the customer puts in it > > > > considering it as an embodiment of lord shiva, representing so > > and so > > > > diety as its lord and it giving so and so benefit etc. any value > > is > > > > not high in matters of faith and we cannot comapre rudraksha with > > > > gold or stones. > > > > > > > > those having faith in a particular god, donate crores of rupees > > for > > > > construction of their temples. similarly some sikhs having faith > > in > > > > their gurus, construct crores of worth gurudwaras, some gujaratis > > > > donated crores to construct palatial ashrams all in the name of > > > > faith. similar donations of billions of rupess happen in all > > > > religious faiths. if you compare the amount people donate for > > their > > > > religious faith in construction of temples and other holy ashrams > > > > etc., the amount spent on buying rudraksha is only a fraction and > > > > miniscule compared to the billions donated for these palatial > > temples > > > > or ashrams. > > > > > > > > for example, one of my satisfied customers after wearing > > rudraksha > > > > decided to help others and is donating one rudrksha every month > > > > because of the faith that it worked for him and it will and is > > > > working for others too. here some sceptics may say that what if > > it > > > > does not work. i advise all my customers beforehand that if at > > any > > > > point of time in their future life, they feel that this rudraksha > > has > > > > not benefited them, they are at liberty to return and i will > > refund > > > > the full payment they made. i must have supplied rudraksha to > > > > thousands of customers since many years, and till date only one > > > > person asked for refund and instantly he got the whole amount he > > > > paid. so the value of faith is protected by me and faith never > > fails. > > > > > > > > hence my submission is that faith is priceless. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A good example is gold. It has FACE VALUE if you believe or > > not. A > > > > $1,000 ruby or diamond is worth $1,000 regardless if you believe > > they > > > > have powers or not. Gem and precious metals have HARD VALUE. > > > > > > > > > > On the other extreme is Rudraksha, which has " 0 " HARD VALUE. It > > is > > > > a worthless seed anywhere and everywhere. ONLY FAITH gives it > > value. > > > > In the world it has no HARD value what-so-ever. So a Rudraksha > > MUST > > > > give good luck because THAT (LUCK) it a Rudraksha's ONLY WORTH. > > So a > > > > seller of Rudraksha MUST give guarantee of GOOD LUCK. > > > > > > > > > > But when selling precious gems and metals HARD VALUE is there. > > No > > > > one can charge even ONE PENNY for the LUCK or astral powers of > > gems > > > > and precious metals. They are precious. THAT is the value. If one > > > > could guarantee a gem would give good luck then they could charge > > a > > > > MILLION $$$ each, and get it. But we cannot sell precious gems > > and > > > > metals for higher-than-value based on faith. > > > > > > > > > > Yet the value and demand for Rudraksha is based 100% on " faith > > > > value " ONLY. Just the opposite of gems and precious metals which > > have > > > > global FACE VALUE as HARD ASSET with no question of faith or luck. > > > > > > > > > > Interesting! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 if i may add and correct me if i am wrong, but dear pandit arjun, is showing like he showed me the beauty of rudraksha. the beauty of rudraksha is that once you pay for it no matter how little or grand, you find the rudraksha so priceless. yes he is right. i agree with you wholeheartedly with you, dear pandit arjun. you are once again a very special man and i am very much endeared to your grace and mercy that you have laid before me with your recommendation. may you help others and gain recognition deserved recognition. i owe you one and you will receive it my dear friend. namaskar, p.s. i do have one personal note to share here why did it take up to age 35 to buy a rudraksha. it has been such a painful journey up to this time ( i talked to you richard for sometime in the past) till i received a recommendation from dear pandit arjun. i mean for all this time richard i didn't believe and now i love lord shiva with all my heart and i hope there is nothing but mercy from him on my soul from now on. __________ Raja Gursahani (: 559.474.8576 ,: rajagursahani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Dear Pandit Arjun, Thanks for the input. As moderator of this group I'm tasked with inspiring dialog. And also deleting any insults or spam. Thanks again for the dialog. It is expert members like you who make this group interesting. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear richardji, namaste. > > your observation is valid but i do not take any money for the faith > at all. the cost of buying the rudrakshas plus expenses involved by > me in going to the temple where we do exclusive rudrabhishekam to > these rudrakshas and then my website running expenses and other > miscllaneous expenses are all covered in the retail prices. round ek > mukh rudraksha is something which i dont have any stock and i make it > available only when someone asks for it, which happens once in a year > or so. > > if you observe, my repeated postings and my consistent stated stand > is that i sell only upto 14mukh rudraksha. even though 15mukhi to > 28mukhi are made available by my suppliers and cost into some > millions of rupees, i have not even touched 15mukhi and above till > date, since i follow shivapurana and find no mention of the higher > mukhis. if others sell, i dont find fault with them, but i dont deal > with them. > > hence any rudraksha buyer can have a opinion on me that i make > available only 1 to 14mukhi round rudrakshas and dont sell these > rudraksha on the faith value and the price at which they are sold is > to cover the expenses of making it available. > > pricelessness is attributed to the faith. a person having faith in a > god build a temple for that god. a person having faith in a person > i.e. guru or swami, he builds an ashram for him. a simple rudraksha > buyer having found his faith true in getting the benefits after > wearing, recommends it to his near and dear. > > as regards gems in which you are dealing, after seeing the > photographs of your products, i was convinced that you can make > available genuine flawless gems and have recommended your name to > several customers of mine who were interested in buying gems and were > not finding a trusted source. > > by the way, recently one of my customers was interested in a natural > pearl of large size and sometime back you got a prized collection of > 8 carats basra pearl. if you are still having it, kindly share a > photograph of it in the group so that i would ask my customer to see > it. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pandit, > > > > Namaste!!! When dealing in worthless material items, to which some > one > > attributes mystical powers, the ONLY value is good luck. So if you > are > > giving " guarantee of good luck " then you can easily charge one > million > > dollars for a Rudraksha with money back guarantee. Who will not pay > > any price possible for " guaranteed good luck " with money back > > guarantee. I know plenty of such people. But I am not sure of your > > guaranteed luck, so I can't recommend them to you. > > > > So the question is: HOW do you reach your material money price for > > Rudraksha? How does anyone? And if luck is guaranteed with money > back > > assurance then why so cheap? Or expensive? If you blame your > suppliers > > then how do THEY figure a price? Where does this price come from? > Who > > has defiled the PRICELESS with a certain price? > > > > When selling ONLY " good luck " your way of doing business sounds > best. > > > > In our gem business we cannot charge even one penny for good luck or > > faith. We sell sacred objects that actually have MATERIAL VALUE, and > > retail price is all I can charge. Many people have faith that gems > > also have powers, but I can't assure that, and I can only charge > > standard retail jewelry price based on material world market hard > > value. And the client has REAL VALUE for their money. Because gems > are > > material objects they have material value and we pay material money. > > > > But if Rudraksha is ONLY guaranteed invisible 'spiritual value' then > > why do we involve 'material money'? Why not pay with invisible > > spiritual money? > > > > Bottom line is WHO CALCULATES THE PRICE OF THE PRICELESS? > > > > Y/s, > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > your concern is understandable and the pricelessness is > attributed to > > > faith and not a product. fixing a price to a product is > different > > > from faith which is priceless. hope i am clear in > differentiating > > > faith which has no value and product which has a value. > > > > > > your second para concern was answered by me earlier by saying > that it > > > is the CUSTOMER'S FAITH in the product that it gives so and so > > > benefit. you may appreciate that i respect my customer's faith > and > > > accordingly his faith value is protected with a 100 percent > buyback > > > guarantee in case his faith fails. > > > > > > i do not take extreme positions of either the whole wealth is not > > > sufficient for pricelessness nor it is absolutely free since it > is > > > priceless. > > > > > > let me sum up in simple language. the rudraksha which i sell has > a > > > price. but the faith the customer puts in it for giving so and > so > > > benefit or relieve his suffering etc., is priceless. to make > things > > > even simpler, the customer puts his faith in the rudraksha and > hence > > > to respect their faith i offer the full refund in case his faith > > > fails for whatever reason. it is a win win situation for the > > > customer. if he gets the benefit, his faith did not fail and he > > > feels happy for it. if he does not get the benefit, his faith > may > > > fail in getting the benefit, but his faith in the product and the > > > supplier is intact since he would not lose a single paisa and he > gets > > > the full refund. so you consider any situation, and the customer > is > > > always happy whichever way you see his faith. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit, > > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I have a simple question: HOW CAN SOMETHING WITH > > > A " PRICE " > > > > BE PRICELESS? It is absurd! Take your entire collection of > Rudraksha > > > > and other PRICELESS objects to a PAWN SHOP or BANK and THEN you > will > > > > know the meaning of " priceless. " When there is a price it > canNOT be > > > > called priceless. And when we take a price from a customer we > are > > > > responsible to give them equal and fair value for that PRICE. > > > > > > > > PRICELESS MEANS: > > > > 1) Not for sale even for all the money on Earth; > > > > or > > > > 2) Free! > > > > > > > > You cannot calculate a material PRICE for " faith " which is > > > intangible. > > > > And I cannot sell my jewelry for over-value based on > the " value " of > > > > faith. First of all, " whose faith? " Seller's faith? or buyers > faith? > > > > Who sets the value of faith? People who sell FAITH must assure > good > > > > fortune to their clients, because " good fortune " is all they are > > > > getting. If client doesn't get good fortune from a " faith > object " > > > then > > > > they have spent their hard-earned money on nothing. > > > > > > > > Y/s, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friend > > > > > > > > > > gold is a commodity which is used for various purposes. it > is > > > meant > > > > > for decoration, for making ornaments and for making idols and > > > rich > > > > > temples like tirumala and amritsar have their entire temple > > > > > goldsheeted. some rich people even use gold utensils, spoons > and > > > > > plates. swarna bhasmam (gold powder) is also used for > medicinal > > > > > purpose. because of its many usages and its scarce > availability, > > > it > > > > > commands a price purely based on demand supply gap. after > crude > > > oil, > > > > > gold is the second most traded (gambled) commodity in futures > and > > > > > options where many gamblers jack up or bring down the prices > for > > > > > their own reasons. hence all countries in the world reckon > gold > > > as a > > > > > traded product and also as a product on which people bet and > > > gamble > > > > > in exchanges. > > > > > > > > > > precious stones were available aplenty centuries ago when > > > population > > > > > was less. many people those days used to wear a complete > pearl > > > > > necklace containing hundred percent natural sea pearls. > however, > > > > > with population explosion and increased demand for precious > > > stones, > > > > > their rates went high and availability has become marginal. > here > > > too > > > > > gems are used both as ornaments and as remedies for planets. > > > > > > > > > > coming to rudraksha, it has no different uses like gold or > > > stones. > > > > > it is not worn as an ornament. all sadhus and saints > (renounced > > > > > people) wear rudraksha. decades ago, only five mukhi were > worn > > > > > mostly since that was available in abundance and is easily > > > affordable > > > > > even by a poor person. but with more people getting > interested > > > in > > > > > wearing rudraksha, the demand has increased for other mukhi > > > > > rudrakshas as people generally go for those types which are > not > > > > > available. you observe 100 shops and no where people come to > > > shop > > > > > for 5 mukhi rudraksha. hardly 1 percent customers are > interested > > > in > > > > > five mukhi which comes for the price of a cup of tea. all > are > > > > > interested in knowing other types which are costly or rarely > > > > > available. hence the not so easily available rudraksha > command a > > > > > premium price which is natural when market dynamics are > applied. > > > > > > > > > > however, as you observed rightly, it is not just the face > value > > > or > > > > > the demand supply that is attributing ever increasing value > for a > > > > > rudrkasha. it is the faith value which the customer puts in > it > > > > > considering it as an embodiment of lord shiva, representing > so > > > and so > > > > > diety as its lord and it giving so and so benefit etc. any > value > > > is > > > > > not high in matters of faith and we cannot comapre rudraksha > with > > > > > gold or stones. > > > > > > > > > > those having faith in a particular god, donate crores of > rupees > > > for > > > > > construction of their temples. similarly some sikhs having > faith > > > in > > > > > their gurus, construct crores of worth gurudwaras, some > gujaratis > > > > > donated crores to construct palatial ashrams all in the name > of > > > > > faith. similar donations of billions of rupess happen in all > > > > > religious faiths. if you compare the amount people donate > for > > > their > > > > > religious faith in construction of temples and other holy > ashrams > > > > > etc., the amount spent on buying rudraksha is only a fraction > and > > > > > miniscule compared to the billions donated for these palatial > > > temples > > > > > or ashrams. > > > > > > > > > > for example, one of my satisfied customers after wearing > > > rudraksha > > > > > decided to help others and is donating one rudrksha every > month > > > > > because of the faith that it worked for him and it will and > is > > > > > working for others too. here some sceptics may say that what > if > > > it > > > > > does not work. i advise all my customers beforehand that if > at > > > any > > > > > point of time in their future life, they feel that this > rudraksha > > > has > > > > > not benefited them, they are at liberty to return and i will > > > refund > > > > > the full payment they made. i must have supplied rudraksha > to > > > > > thousands of customers since many years, and till date only > one > > > > > person asked for refund and instantly he got the whole amount > he > > > > > paid. so the value of faith is protected by me and faith > never > > > fails. > > > > > > > > > > hence my submission is that faith is priceless. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown > > > > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A good example is gold. It has FACE VALUE if you believe or > > > not. A > > > > > $1,000 ruby or diamond is worth $1,000 regardless if you > believe > > > they > > > > > have powers or not. Gem and precious metals have HARD VALUE. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other extreme is Rudraksha, which has " 0 " HARD > VALUE. It > > > is > > > > > a worthless seed anywhere and everywhere. ONLY FAITH gives it > > > value. > > > > > In the world it has no HARD value what-so-ever. So a > Rudraksha > > > MUST > > > > > give good luck because THAT (LUCK) it a Rudraksha's ONLY > WORTH. > > > So a > > > > > seller of Rudraksha MUST give guarantee of GOOD LUCK. > > > > > > > > > > > > But when selling precious gems and metals HARD VALUE is > there. > > > No > > > > > one can charge even ONE PENNY for the LUCK or astral powers > of > > > gems > > > > > and precious metals. They are precious. THAT is the value. If > one > > > > > could guarantee a gem would give good luck then they could > charge > > > a > > > > > MILLION $$$ each, and get it. But we cannot sell precious > gems > > > and > > > > > metals for higher-than-value based on faith. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet the value and demand for Rudraksha is based 100% > on " faith > > > > > value " ONLY. Just the opposite of gems and precious metals > which > > > have > > > > > global FACE VALUE as HARD ASSET with no question of faith or > luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 dear friend thanks for your good words. the recommendation of 12 mukh rudraksha to you was in fact the best remedy i found among all over years of my experience, for it represents lord sun. just to refresh the memory of the members, sun is the lord of the solar system in which we live and all planets revolve around the sun. saturn who is the planet that cleans our karmic slate (hardships and sufferings as punishments for our past sins) is the son of lord sun. it is the hindu mythological belief that wherever sun is worshipped, saturn do not harm such people, for they are worshipping their father. in fact, for all those who cannot afford any money on remedies, reciting gayatri mantra is the best remedy. generally i do not recommend gems. but in various threads in all , i was unanimously recommending ruby as the gem of all gems and that any one can wear a ruby (genuine flawless) as it found mention in proper vedas, puranas and itihasas. it is mentioned in these scriptures that ruby makes the wearer enjoy prince like comforts by giving him status and wealth. needleess to mention, almost all hindu kings used to wear a ruby on their crown. the mystic shamantaka mani is also a ruby. the holy bead rudraksha has another inherent property of making the native (wearer) lean towards enlightenment and help him undergo the antaryatra. this is the reason all spiritual seekers wear rudraksha. i take this opportunity of all rudraksha lovers not to ridicule or belittle the five mukhi rudraksha just because it is available cheaply. a complete 108 bead five mukhi small sized maala is available for just 100 rupees in india. while narrating the benefits of each rudraksha, shivapurana gave maximum narration to five mukhi rudraksha. some rudraksha sellers wonder how come a powerful holy rudraksha bead of five mukhi is available for less than the price of a cup of tea. here we shall praise the glory of lord shiva because lord shiva is truly bhola shankar who was so kind to give his rudraksha at such an affordable price. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " Raja Gursahani " <rajagursahani wrote: > > if i may add and correct me if i am wrong, but dear pandit arjun, is showing > like he showed me the beauty of rudraksha. the beauty of rudraksha is that > once you pay for it no matter how little or grand, you find the rudraksha so > priceless. yes he is right. i agree with you wholeheartedly with you, dear > pandit arjun. you are once again a very special man and i am very much > endeared to your grace and mercy that you have laid before me with your > recommendation. may you help others and gain recognition deserved > recognition. i owe you one and you will receive it my dear friend. > > namaskar, > > p.s. i do have one personal note to share here why did it take up to age 35 > to buy a rudraksha. it has been such a painful journey up to this time ( i > talked to you richard for sometime in the past) till i received a > recommendation from dear pandit arjun. i mean for all this time richard i > didn't believe and now i love lord shiva with all my heart and i hope there > is nothing but mercy from him on my soul from now on. > > > > __________ > > Raja Gursahani > (: 559.474.8576 > ,: rajagursahani > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 pandit arjun thank you so much for you relieving the suffering of humanity. one day i would like to figure out a way to distribute rudraksha for free to all. that day will come. namaskar, __________ Raja Gursahani (: 559.474.8576 ,: rajagursahani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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