Do rudrakshas really help?...whome to trust and where to buy?

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Thank you Richardji.

 

Anyway Anant, I haven't got a problem and haven't written in taboo

language, i.e. four-letter words. I'm not being impolite, just merely

putting out some facts, et el. Also mentioned the words " this is not

meant to be denigrating........ " . So don't take this wrongly. In

this forum, we sometimes agree to disagree. You'll find there are

plenty of hearty discussions if you look back on several threads.

Those who couldn't stand the heat, knew well not to start a fire.

 

We know you've pointed out the link and we've read it. Its very, very

old news. FYI, Indiatimes/audaryafellowship has no right nor

permission to reproduce anything from Rudraksha Societies Beads Club

(this is what I heard from the moderator via email when I sent him

your link). But the group owner and moderator have graciously not

tackled them about it.

 

Sure there are others helping you out and I hope you take their

advise. I'm also trying to help you out by pointing out facts that

you might find hard to digest.

 

 

 

sacred-objects , " m_anant " <m_anant wrote:

>

> Hey, what's your problem? mind your language! you are the one who's

> gotta be blind or has selective reading mode issues. I even pointed

> out the link where the negative comment about rudra-cent was

written.

> It could be inaccurate, which is just the reason why I posed the

> question on this forum.

>

> If you can't be polite, just back off. There are others who are

> helping me out by responding to my post.

>

 

> ---Gentlemen, I don't see any problem. Best wishes! Y/s, Richard

>

>

 

sacred-objects , " kerryhermes " <kerryhermes@>

> wrote:

> >

> > If you read and scroll down the pages in the link you've posted,

you

> > will find (after reading properly), that the " fake heirloom " was

> > tested by Sri Seetha's daughter Neetaji. The piece was only ever

on

> > their website to show its was a fake bead. It was never for sale.

> >

> > And that senior staff member as you called him, was Sri

Dharmadevji

> > who had never ever written that sells fakes. Do

you

> > read things properly or just skim through passages, or

> > have 'selective reading mode'? This is not meant to be

denigrating

> > but some people do have selective hearing or reading modes that

> > result in not being able to discern between hogwash and what's

real.

> >

> > Regarding how rudraksham.com can make their prices so low, you'll

> > have to ask them.

> >

>

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Dear Ms Sujattha Saiker,

 

I have gone through your posting regarding your experience with Rudraksha-Ratna of Mrs. Neeta. I want to make it clear that I keep myself away from any criticisum about anybody. However, being experienced in different types of rudraksha and variation in different beads, I am of the frank opinion that your findings are not correct.

 

It is first necessary to know about Indonesian 2 mukhi, Indian 2 mukhi and Nepal 2 mukhi rudraksha beads in more detail.

 

Indonesian 2, 3 and 4 mukhi beads are always very small and oval in shape. These beads are very smooth in their outer texture. The contorted surface is not well developed as in case of Indian oval two mukhi or three mukhi beads. Personally, so far I have not seen genuine Indonesian oval shaped two mukhi of the size 10 to 15 mm. as you have mentioned. Maximum lenghth of Inonesian 2 mukhi, 3 mukhi and 4 mukhi beads is never more than 6 to 7 mm. If any body is claiming to provide 2 mukhi Indonesian beads of the size 10 to 15 mm., I am very sorry to say that the person must be selling fake beads made from the large sized 3 mukhi smooth walled beads of the species Elaeocarpus oblongus available in the western ghats of Maharashtra.

 

I have just now gone through the pictures of Indonesian 2 mukhi beads displayed on Rudra Centre's website. The bead is genuine and excellent. Does not matter if it is of smaller size. I want to add here that Indonesian 2 mukhi is a rare bead and not easily available. I have not seen any other website offering genuine 2 mukhi Indonesian rudraksha similar to the bead shown on rudra centre website.

 

In case of Indian two mukhi rudraksha, there are two types. One is commonly sold oval rudraksha and the other one is flat kite shaped rudraksha of the species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. This type of flat beads are wrongly mentioned as Bhadraksha.

 

I personally do not believe in groups for arguments , critics etc. I have my own small business of rudraksha and valampuri shankhs.

 

I also want to add here that in 2004 a fake ID was made by 'somebody' in the name of Dharmadev Arya There was lot of discussion on different forums regarding such dirty activities.

 

My posting here is to put factual information regarding rarely available Indonesian 2 mukhi rudraksha and to avoid misunderstandings.

 

Thanking you and with best wishes,

 

Chandrashekhar Phadke, Pune, India

 

--- On Wed, 11/6/08, Sujattha B Saiker <sujattha wrote:

Sujattha B Saiker <sujatthaRe: Re: Do rudrakshas really help?...whome to trust and where to buy?sacred-objects Date: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008, 9:09 AM

 

 

 

Anant,

 

I'm sorry to be interfering at this point of time. But this post is becoming extremely obnoxious. Well, you utter a word about Rudraksha-ratna and they rush to their defense (and how!), don't they! What they fail to understand is "The customer is not foolish!". And the cheap tricks they resort to (like the one they're up to right now), don't go un-noticed with the discerning buyer.

 

I had ordered three nos. 2 faced Java Rudrakshas with them, sometime back in March. That being my very first transaction, I deliberately stuck to a low value order just to check on their service. And I must vouch I've had the most bitter experience. Firstly the service was exceedingly sloppy, as they ended up shipping the beads only a good two weeks after I ordered. Secondly when the beads did arrive, they turned out to be some ridiculously teeny weeny pieces of stuff, barely looking like Rudrakshas and almost the size Bengal grams. There was on guarantee certificate, neither did they include the free Rudraksha booklet they advertise of in their website. In the mean while, I check on a few local merchant, and the 2 mukhi Java beads they were selling, were much bigger (12 mm to 15 mm beads) and a lot cheaper than what Rudraksha Ratna charged.

 

As a result, I had to go through the rigour of couriering the beads back to them to be replaced with 2 mukhi Indian Rudrakshas. They did exchange the beads, but in the process I missed out on the Mahashivratri day, which was the day I had planned to have my family member wear it. That apart, the beads did not prove to be effective either.

 

I haven't ordered with them ever since. I have, however, purchased many Nepali higher mukhis, by now, form Rudraksha Nepal. And I've found the beads very effective. Courier charges are steep (INR 615.00), but the service more than makes up for it. At this point of time, I must let you know that I've chanced upon some very negative posts about their proprietor Suresh Basnet, on the Audarya Fellowship website. And I give two hoots about it. As they say "The proof of the cake is in the eating." Very soon, actually next week, I shall place my next order with them and, most importantly, without any apprehensions . All in all I'm happy with the service.

 

Anant, I would suggest you go about choosing your dealer in similar fashion. It's not sensible to make a choice based on just word of mouth. Go ahead and order a few beads from the dealer you find most convincing, wear them with unwavering faith, check on the effects for a month, and then make your decision.

 

Lot of "Gyaan" that, isn't it!

 

May the Good Lord show you the right way.

 

Om Namah Shivaya!

 

 

 

m_anant <m_anant > wrote:

 

 

Hey, what's your problem? mind your language! you are the one who'sgotta be blind or has selective reading mode issues. I even pointedout the link where the negative comment about rudra-cent was written.It could be inaccurate, which is just the reason why I posed thequestion on this forum.If you can't be polite, just back off. There are others who arehelping me out by responding to my post.---Gentlemen, I don't see any problem. Best wishes! Y/s, Richardsacred-objects, "kerryhermes" <kerryhermes@ ...>wrote:>> If you read and scroll down the pages in the link you've posted, you > will find (after reading properly), that the "fake heirloom" was > tested by Sri Seetha's daughter Neetaji. The piece was only ever on > their website to show its was a fake bead. It

was never for sale. > > And that senior staff member as you called him, was Sri Dharmadevji > who had never ever written that sells fakes. Do you > read things properly or just skim through passages, or > have 'selective reading mode'? This is not meant to be denigrating > but some people do have selective hearing or reading modes that > result in not being able to discern between hogwash and what's real.> > Regarding how rudraksham.com can make their prices so low, you'll > have to ask them.> > > sacred-objects, "m_anant" <m_anant@> wrote:> >> > It's good to know there are many genuine sellers in this forum. I've> > listed only 4 websites because, as I mentioned earlier, I narrowed> > down my

choice to these four after researching a lot websites.> > > > I wanted to order from rudraksham.com but my concern with them is > that> > they don't do any testing on the rudrakshas, yet they guarantee the> > authenticity of them. The reason I'm still considering buying from> > them is because, the man sounded authentic and knowledgeable; and, > his> > prices are lower than that of the other three websites; especially > if> > you go for the higher mukhi rudrakshas (15 to 21 mukhi), the> > difference in prices is substantially low. So, I wondered how they> > rudraksham.com is selling at such low prices when the other three > that> > I mentioned are priced almost similarly.> > > > I also read a comment, the link to which is below, where one of> > ' s own senior staff member said that

> > sells fake stuff. Here is the link to that comment:> > http://www.indiadiv ine.org/audarya/ hindu-sadhanas/ 268187-rbsc- real-> fake-round-1- mukhi-rudra- centre-davidji. html> > > > I hope, you all understand the reason for my confusion.> > > > So, if there are many genuine sellers in this forum, then it's a> > matter of figuring out who is offering the lowest price and buy > from them.> > > > Thanks much for your comments and suggestions.> > > > > > sacred-objects, "kerryhermes" <kerryhermes@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > There are many genuine sellers of

rudraksha in this forum. The > three> > > you have mentioned in your message are also genuine, don't worry.> > >>

 

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Hello All,

 

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions, which answered my

questions and solved my dilemma. I'm fairly satisfied with the

responses I got on this forum and I think I now have all the

information I need to make a decision on where to make a purchase. In

fact, I've chosen to go ahead with rudra centre and would be placing

my order with them shortly. So again, Thank you all for your responses.

 

I'm surprised too, buy the heat my post generated. As I so clearly

mentioned in my very first message, I'm a first time rudraksha buyer

and genuinely seeking guidance on the trusted sources to buy from. I

haven't, intentionally or otherwise, tried to slander any seller,

especially rudra centre; merely, pointed out to comments posted

elsewhere and sought clarity on that. I just wish, the couple of folks

who got on my case understood this.

 

On that note, I'd like to end the debate on the thread I started and

request you all to bring this discussion to a peaceful closure.

 

Thank you for your contributions.

 

Regards All.

 

sacred-objects , chandrashekhar phadke

<chphadke wrote:

>

> Dear Ms Sujattha Saiker,

> & nbsp;

> I have gone through your posting regarding your experience with

Rudraksha-Ratna of Mrs. Neeta. & nbsp; I want to make it clear that I

keep myself away from any criticisum about anybody. & nbsp; However,

being experienced in different types of rudraksha and variation in

different beads, I am of the frank opinion that your findings are not

correct. & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> It is first necessary to know about Indonesian 2 mukhi, Indian 2

mukhi and Nepal 2 mukhi rudraksha beads in more detail.

> & nbsp;

> Indonesian 2, 3 and 4 mukhi beads are always very small and oval in

shape. & nbsp; These beads are very smooth in their outer texture. & nbsp;

The contorted surface is not well developed as in case of Indian oval

two mukhi or three mukhi beads. & nbsp; Personally, so far I have not

seen genuine Indonesian oval shaped two mukhi of the size 10 to 15 mm.

as you have mentioned. & nbsp; Maximum lenghth of Inonesian 2 mukhi, 3

mukhi and 4 mukhi & nbsp;beads is never more than 6 to 7 mm. & nbsp; If

any body is claiming to provide 2 mukhi Indonesian beads of the size

10 to 15 mm., I am very sorry to say that the person must be selling

fake beads made from the large sized 3 mukhi smooth walled beads of

the species Elaeocarpus oblongus available in the western ghats of

Maharashtra.

> & nbsp;

> I have just now gone through the pictures of Indonesian 2 mukhi

beads displayed on Rudra Centre's website. & nbsp; The bead is genuine

and excellent. & nbsp; Does not matter if it is of smaller size. & nbsp; I

want to add here that Indonesian 2 mukhi is a rare bead and not easily

available. & nbsp; I have not seen any other website offering genuine 2

mukhi Indonesian rudraksha similar to the bead shown on & nbsp;rudra

centre website.

> & nbsp;

> In case of Indian two mukhi rudraksha, there are two types. & nbsp;

One is commonly sold oval rudraksha and the other one is flat kite

shaped rudraksha of the species Elaeocarpus tuberculatus. & nbsp; This

type of flat beads are wrongly mentioned as Bhadraksha. & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> I personally do not believe in groups for arguments , critics etc. I

have my own small business of rudraksha and valampuri shankhs.

> & nbsp;

> I also want to add here that in 2004 a fake ID was made by

'somebody' in the name of Dharmadev Arya There was lot of discussion

on different forums regarding such dirty & nbsp;activities.

> & nbsp;

> My posting here is to put factual information regarding & nbsp; rarely

available Indonesian 2 mukhi rudraksha and to avoid misunderstandings.

> & nbsp;

> Thanking you and with best wishes,

> & nbsp;

> Chandrashekhar Phadke, Pune, India

> & nbsp;

>

>

> --- On Wed, 11/6/08, Sujattha B Saiker sujattha wrote:

>

> Sujattha B Saiker sujattha

> Re: Re: Do rudrakshas really help?...whome

to trust and where to buy?

> sacred-objects

> Wednesday, 11 June, 2008, 9:09 AM

>

Anant,

> & nbsp;

> I'm sorry to be interfering at this point of time. But this post is

becoming extremely obnoxious. Well, you utter a word about

Rudraksha-ratna and they rush to their defense (and how!), don't they!

What they fail to understand is " The customer is not foolish! " . And

the cheap tricks they resort to (like the one they're up to right

now), don't go un-noticed with the discerning buyer.

> & nbsp;

> I had ordered three nos. 2 faced & nbsp;Java Rudrakshas with them,

sometime back in March. That being my very first transaction, I

deliberately stuck to a low value order just to check on their

service. And I must & nbsp;vouch I've had the most bitter experience.

Firstly the service was exceedingly sloppy, as they ended up shipping

the beads only a good two weeks after I ordered. Secondly when the

beads did arrive, they turned out to be some ridiculously teeny weeny

pieces of stuff, barely looking like Rudrakshas and almost the size

Bengal grams. There was on guarantee certificate, neither did they

include the free Rudraksha booklet they advertise of in their website.

In the mean while, & nbsp;I check on a few local merchant, and the 2

mukhi Java beads they were selling, were much bigger (12 mm to 15 mm

beads) and a lot cheaper than what & nbsp;Rudraksha Ratna & nbsp;charged.

> & nbsp;

> As a result, I had to go through the rigour of & nbsp;couriering the

beads back to them to be replaced with 2 mukhi Indian Rudrakshas. They

did exchange the beads, but in the process I missed out on the

Mahashivratri day, which was the day I had planned

to & nbsp;have & nbsp;my family member wear & nbsp; & nbsp;it. That apart, the

beads did not prove to be effective either.

> & nbsp;

> I haven't ordered with them ever since. I have, however,

purchased & nbsp;many & nbsp;Nepali higher mukhis, by now, form Rudraksha

Nepal. & nbsp;And I've found the beads very & nbsp;effective. Courier

charges are steep (INR 615.00), but the service more than makes up for

it. At this point of time, I must let you know that I've chanced upon

some very negative posts about their proprietor Suresh Basnet, on the

Audarya Fellowship website. And I give two hoots about it. As they say

" The proof of the cake is in the eating. " Very soon, actually next

week, I shall place my next order with them and, most importantly,

without any apprehensions & nbsp; . All in all I'm happy with the service.

> & nbsp;

> Anant, I would suggest you go about choosing your dealer in similar

fashion. It's not sensible to make a choice based on just word of

mouth. Go ahead and order a few beads from the dealer you find most

convincing, wear them with unwavering faith, check on the effects for

a month, and then make your decision.

> & nbsp;

> Lot of " Gyaan " that, isn't it!

> & nbsp;

> May the Good Lord show you the right way.

> & nbsp;

> Om Namah Shivaya!

> & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> m_anant m_anant & gt; wrote:

>

>

> Hey, what's your problem? mind your language! you are the one who's

> gotta be blind or has selective reading mode issues. I even pointed

> out the link where the negative comment about rudra-cent was written.

> It could be inaccurate, which is just the reason why I posed the

> question on this forum.

>

> If you can't be polite, just back off. There are others who are

> helping me out by responding to my post.

>

> ---Gentlemen, I don't see any problem. Best wishes! Y/s, Richard

>

> sacred-objects, " kerryhermes "

& lt;kerryhermes@ ... & gt;

> wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt; If you read and scroll down the pages in the link you've

posted, you

> & gt; will find (after reading properly), that the " fake heirloom " was

> & gt; tested by Sri Seetha's daughter Neetaji. The piece was only

ever on

> & gt; their website to show its was a fake bead. It was never for sale.

> & gt;

> & gt; And that senior staff member as you called him, was Sri

Dharmadevji

> & gt; who had never ever written that sells fakes. Do

you

> & gt; read things properly or just skim through passages, or

> & gt; have 'selective reading mode'? This is not meant to be denigrating

> & gt; but some people do have selective hearing or reading modes that

> & gt; result in not being able to discern between hogwash and what's

real.

> & gt;

> & gt; Regarding how rudraksham.com can make their prices so low, you'll

> & gt; have to ask them.

> & gt;

> & gt;

> & gt; sacred-objects, " m_anant "

& lt;m_anant@ & gt; wrote:

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; It's good to know there are many genuine sellers in this

forum. I've

> & gt; & gt; listed only 4 websites because, as I mentioned earlier, I

narrowed

> & gt; & gt; down my choice to these four after researching a lot websites.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; I wanted to order from rudraksham.com but my concern with

them is

> & gt; that

> & gt; & gt; they don't do any testing on the rudrakshas, yet they

guarantee the

> & gt; & gt; authenticity of them. The reason I'm still considering

buying from

> & gt; & gt; them is because, the man sounded authentic and

knowledgeable; and,

> & gt; his

> & gt; & gt; prices are lower than that of the other three websites;

especially

> & gt; if

> & gt; & gt; you go for the higher mukhi rudrakshas (15 to 21 mukhi), the

> & gt; & gt; difference in prices is substantially low. So, I wondered

how they

> & gt; & gt; rudraksham.com is selling at such low prices when the

other three

> & gt; that

> & gt; & gt; I mentioned are priced almost similarly.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; I also read a comment, the link to which is below, where

one of

> & gt; & gt; ' s own senior staff member said that

 

> & gt; & gt; sells fake stuff. Here is the link to that comment:

> & gt; & gt; http://www.indiadiv ine.org/audarya/ hindu-sadhanas/

268187-rbsc- real-

> & gt; fake-round-1- mukhi-rudra- centre-davidji. html

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; I hope, you all understand the reason for my confusion.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; So, if there are many genuine sellers in this forum, then

it's a

> & gt; & gt; matter of figuring out who is offering the lowest price

and buy

> & gt; from them.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; Thanks much for your comments and suggestions.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; sacred-objects, " kerryhermes "

& lt;kerryhermes@ & gt;

> & gt; & gt; wrote:

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; There are many genuine sellers of rudraksha in this

forum. The

> & gt; three

> & gt; & gt; & gt; you have mentioned in your message are also genuine,

don't worry.

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt;

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Mr.Anant

Nice to see that finally you have decided to get Rudraksha mala,I

have few which I bought from visiting one of the Jyotirlinga temple

and priest did all the pooja and applied a tilak on mala after

touching(sparsh)to holy Shivlinga.

Go for a simpler 5 mukhi mala only,it will take minimum 1 month upto

may be a longer time depending upon our karma to get true binifits

of wearing them,do keep wearing it with the strict rules(which you

must be knowing)for wearing Rudraksha mala.I wish you all the best.

Har Har Mahadev.

sacred-objects , " m_anant " <m_anant wrote:

>

> I mentioned the three sites that I narrowed down my choice to.

Sure,

> there are other websites as well. rudraksham.com also comes to my

mind

> and I forgot mentioning it in my previous post. I'd like to be sure

> about the genuineness of the rudrakshas; hence, the questions were

> very specific and to the point.

>

> Thanks.

>

> sacred-objects , " kerryhermes " <kerryhermes@>

> wrote:

> >

> > There are many genuine sellers of rudraksha in this forum. The

three

> > you have mentioned in your message are also genuine, don't worry.

> >

> > It seems you have been reading stuff in wrong places before.

Also in

> > this forum, members mentioned in past messages about experiences

and

> > how they benefited. Why don't you scroll back to some old

messages?

> >

> > Richardji himself wears 14 mukhi rudraksha. He has also

recommended 14

> > mukhi and 2 mukhi for many problems. All the people he suggested

to,

> > reported good results.

> >

> > I wonder how come you only know those 3 sites you mentioned?

Surely

> > you would have read other sites too? No?

> >

> > Your post sounds very strange......... Anyone who's got half a

brain

> > and happen to know the 3 sites would wonder why you asked

questions

> > the way you did.

> >

> > Cheers!

> >

> >

> > sacred-objects , " m_anant " <m_anant@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I'm a first time rudraksha wearer and feel I should go for a

siddha

> > > mala as a solutions to my problems. I have been looking around

for

> > > genuine rudrakshas, unsure of whom to buy 1-mukhi Indonesian

and

> > > higher mukhi beads from; so, I decided to seek help on this

forum. I

> > > have a couple of questions:

> > >

> > > #1. Do rudrakshas really work as advertised? meaning, do they

solve

> > > personal problems like getting a job, finding the right

marriage

> > > partner etc?

> > > I've read posts on forums like this where people have said

that they

> > > didn't really experience anything different or obtained any

material

> > > benefits from wearing them. Hence, the confusion.

> > >

> > > #2. Could you please let me know if the 1-mukhi Indonesian

rudraksha

> > > that rudra-ratna or rudraksha-shakti (K.N.Seetha ji's website;

in

> > > fact, he guarantees the authenticity of this bead) sell is

genuine

> > or not?

> > >

> > > #3. Also, rudralife.com claims to test all beads in a ISO 9001

> > > certified lab and provides the same guarantee on all beads

purchased

> > > there. Do you know if rudralife.com sells genuine rudrakshas

or not?

> > >

> > > #4. If all these places sell fakes, then who do you recommend

buying

> > > these rudrakshas from?

> > >

> > > It'll help buyers like me to know any info about genuine

rudraksha

> > > sellers versus fake ones.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > > Namaste

> > >

> >

>