Sri Navaratna - WHY DO HINDUS USE JUNK STONES???

November 3, 2008

dear brother richard

your observations are correct that most gemstones sold in india are

junk and on percentage level around 99 percent of the gemstones sold

in india are junk.

your observation of rich getting richer and poor getting poorer also

draws a parallel of how a person who cannot afford a precious or semi

precious gem just go for a similar lookalike coloured stone to

satisfy himself that he too got a gem. poor people too can have

great benefic results by doing zero expense remedies like fasting,

recital of mantras, vratas and wearing inexpensive rudraksha.

however, i request you to kindly reframe the word " hindu jewellers "

with " gemsellers in india " or " indian gemsellers " because namecalling

of hindu religious jewellers would hurt the sentiments of hindus.

here, i also wish to highlight that more than a quarter of gemsellers

in india are jains. there are many leading muslim gold and

gemsellers all over the country. there are few parsi, sikh and very

few christian gemsellers too in the country. so it is not just hindu

jewellers who sell gems in india.

recently the world's largest gold mining companies have set up their

shops in india and they have started selling genuine precious

diamonds. accordingly, a couple of belgium based leading diamond

sellers too have opened shops in india and are selling genuine

diamonds. except for these genuine diamonds, i have not seen any

other foreign companies in india selling other precious stones.

hence, it is apt to say that most indian gemsellers sell junk stones

instead of calling hindu gemsellers.

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown "

<rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Yes!!! Absolutely right! The Hindu jewelers are to blame for

stocking

> JUNK stones which are harmful ... just for the poor people. So what

is

> this? The poor people get the " bad luck " trash, and remain worse

off;

> but the rich get the lucky Jyotish quality gems and life improves.

>

> The jewelers of India are the GURUS to the public in gemology. If a

> poor man comes for luck he should be advised against junk and

advised

> a cheap Rudraksha. If rich man comes then he can buy LUCKY top

quality

> GOOD gems. The jeweler should NEVER stock junk for sale!!

>

> What if a sweet-milk-rice seller adds 'sand' into the sweet rice!?

> Then no one can eat it! He should only sell pure sweet rice.

>

> The sad fact is that most of the Indian gem gurus, the Hindu

jewelers

> (like Rahul by admission), buy and stock JUNK and are rascals who

are

> responsible for the problem.

>

> It is not that EVERYONE can have a gem. What if a poor man wants to

> buy a Lear Jet Airplane costing crores. Well, sorry! HE CAN NOT HAVE

> ONE!!! We don't sell him a broken kite.

>

> But sure, uparatnas can be used in jyotish quality. But Hindu

jewelers

> even stock junk semi-precious. " Junk " is their middle name. But good

> quality alone is worthy of praise, in all fields. Like a junk person

> is never praiseworthy. Junk food is never praiseworthy. Sweet rice

> with sand is never praiseworthy. And people who sell JUNK are always

> rascals.

>

> Using semi precious GOOD QUALITY gems one can make a cheaper

Navaratna

> like:

>

> SUN: red garnet

> MOON: Moon stone

> JUPITER: Citrine

> RAHU: orange zircon

> MERCURY: Peridot

> VENUS: White zircon

> KETU: Fibrolite cats eye

> SATURN: Iolite

> MARS: Carnelian

>

> These above in small Navartana sizes like 4-5mm cost peanuts. So

where

> is the place for JUNK? In no field or area of life is JUNK any thing

> but JUNK.

>

> So maybe a Hindu jewelery shop should be called " Junk Yard!? "

>

> It is the blame of the jewelers for stocking and selling JUNK.

Rather

> they should be teaching the clients what is right and wrong. And

> stocking only RIGHT. Wrong is wrong and right is right. But the

Hindu

> jewelers buy, stock and sell junk to unlucky misguided poor people.

> That is terrible and despicable. And MUST be condemned by all!!!

>

> Y/s,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects , summa iru anama <typhon777@>

> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends!

> > Trash gemstones,are not gems at all, they are just dead energy

cells

> causing diseases and misfortune..just the fact that flawless gem is

> alive entity, wich took some few hundred thousands of years to

> develop, even up to million years and more, means that quality

> gemstones are pricelles comodity in that respect...just look at the

> fact that by wearing jyotish quality gemstones, you are as an

> individual in a possesion of thousands of years old entity,and if

you

> are sincearly recpecting that fact, than you are aware of the true

> beauty of life, wich manifests, in this case as a crystalised form

> created by combinations of different elements...

> >

> > excuses likem " if I dont sell junk navaratna, buyer will go to

> another shop and he is going to buy it from somebody else " is

> patetic...the whole idea of buying quality gemstones goes far beyond

> material value ...in my experience, for the first jyotish quality

gem

> I bought, I was working for 6 month for free(I was payed 6 month in

> front, in order just to buy a gem), and when I finally got my gem, I

> realised that the knowledge I gained ,just by phisically having the

> gem in in my hands, goes far beyond than knowledge that we can gain

by

> teachings of sacred texts...no wonder that original anicent

knowledge

> remains hidden....

> >

> > ps...can you make navaratna from secundary gemstones? If it can be

> done, than it would be possible for everybody to have beneficial

> navaratna talisman, for modest price...

> >

> > best wishes & kind regards

> vjenceslav

> >

> > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:02:52

> +0000 Re: Sri Navaratna - WHY DO HINDUS USE

> JUNK STONES???

> >

> > Dear Rahul,The point is that Hindus are to believe in Shastra

> praman. About poorcheap bad quality junk stones and bogus pearls

> Shastra has said (a fewexamples): " Pure, flawless gems have

auspicious

> powers which can protect one fromdemons, snakes, poisons, diseases,

> sinful reactions, and otherdangers, while flawed stones have the

> opposite effect. " GARUDA-PURANAM: Chapter 68, Verse 17 " A gem free

from

> all impurities and radiating its characteristicinternal luster

should

> be looked upon as an escort of good luck. A gemwhich is cracked,

> fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing rough orsandy, should not

be

> used at all. " AGNI-PURANAM: Chapter 246, Verse 7 & 8 Sri Garuda

> Puranam, it is stated by Sri Suta Goswami, " A ruby,although genuine,

> should not be worn if it has strong color banding,excessive

inclusions

> within like numerous internal cracks, a sandyappearance, a rough

> surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone usingsuch a flawed ruby,

> even out of ignorance, will suffer from disease,or loss of

> fortune. " ---So as a jeweler who is Hindu it is your duty to advise

> poor peopleNOT to wear bad gems. " Jyotish Quality " gems can be

> expensive, orcheaper if you use " uparatna " semi-precious gems. And

> only those whohave money OR are not misers can afford good gems. So

> what is ajeweler in Indian doing selling BAD gems? Is this just out

of

> greed?If a man comes and says " I want to drink poison " will you sell

> to himjust out of greed?Because gems are valuable (when good) so

they

> are called gems. Junk isnot called gems, it is called trash! That is

> why it is better toadvise poor people away from bad gems. Rudraksha

> are very low pricedand always do good. So please advise rich clients

> to buy GOOD gems,and poor clients to by GOOD Rudraksha. That is the

> correct way.,Any jeweler who sells junk, either from Sri Lanka, or

> Bangkok, or theMoon, is to be condemned. And such person can never

> join the PGAwww.p-g-a.org because we have RULES.If in deed you sell

> junk to poor people, against advice of Shastra,then you're a rascal,

> and the REALLY GREEDY ONE. And, may I ask, WHYyou stock JUNK stones

> for sale? Don't you have any class?Y/s,Richard--- In

> sacred-objects , " Rahul S Pokarna " <pokarnagems@>

> wrote:>> Hi Guys,> In India people dont wear junk/low quality of

> gemstones just out ofmind.> They are very much aware about the

quality

> of the stones required. I> am a Gemologist and a jewellery too.> The

> problem lies in their budget. The major populatio is middle and> low

> class and they cannot afford fine quality gems. So they have to> opt

> for medium and low quality gems. Also i would lke to tell that> gems

> from Bangkok/ Thailand is of not much great quality. They have> been

> treated with chemicals and permanently dyed. Here ppl prefer Gems>

> from Srilanka which are of much better quality for astrological>

> purposes than a fine quality of gemstone from Thailand.> > And i am

> sure any true and spiritualy enlightened person will agree> with me

> when i say that Wearing and gemstone or chanting mantra will> change

> ur life . Its only astrologers who have half knowledge for> their

own

> selfish motives play with the minds of people asking them to> wear

so

> and so stone and perform pooja.> > Its only ur deeds good/ bad that

is

> the reason for what u are facing> , where u r and where u will be.>

>

> For leading a good life all one needs is> > Think good, feel good

and

> do good.> > Regards> > Rahul S Pokarna> > On 11/1/08, Rick Brown

> <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > ---to be greatest in the world we must know

> over 6 billion people. The> > greatest on earth never needs to say

> because he will be famous asworld's> > greatest ...> > Might be

> reincarnate of Shri Varahamihira.?> >> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008

at

> 11:07 PM, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> > wrote:> > " The Astrologist

> proclaims to be world best astrologer " --- WOW!!!> > Must be

Parasara

> Muni. Otherwise he's a joke!!!> >> >> >> > --- In

> sacred-objects , vasdev kripalani udharam> >

> <binnumero@> wrote:> >>> >> Respected sir,> >> Recently i saw a

> programe on Astrology, wherein the Astrologist> > say " Please dont

> wear Navratna " this may bring good luck and bad> > luck also. But it

> brings more of Bad luck.The Astrologist proclaims> > to be world

best

> astrologer.I myself i am into Numero,but not in> > astro, hence

> various doubts do arises in one mind.and now regarding> >

> hindu,muslim,and christian,is in one mind.Which we have got from

our>

> > ancestors.I only know one thing we all are human being.> >> We

> should send message of love and humanity.> >> As i know we all are

> under one roof.> >>> >> I am thankful to come across a pious

> person.,happy deepwali> >>> >> binode kripalani> >>> >> Richard Shaw

> Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > Rspd Sriman,> >>> >> Can everyone wear

> Rudraksha? YES. Does everyone wear Rudraksha? NO.> >>> >> Can

everyone

> wear Navaratna? YES. Does everyone wear Navaratna? NO.> >>> >> What

> does " CARAT " have to do with anything? There is no word nor> >>

weight

> " carat " in all Sanskrit language. Carat is an English wordthat> >>

is

> not same as a Ratti.> >>> >> To wear a SRI Navaratna of Jyotish

> quality gems requires ONLY good> >> fortune karma.> >>> >> Y/s,> >>

> Richard> >>> >> sacred-objects , vasdev

> kripalani udharam> >> <binnumero@> wrote:> >> >> >> > Acharyaji,>

>> >

> Can everybody wear Navratna.? I doubt as because of " CARAT " and> >>

> other reason too. This is my understanding, please clarify, if i am>

> >> wrong?> >> > binode kripalani> >> >> >> > Bijay Acharya

<bijay_a@>

> wrote:> >>> >> > Dear Richard Ji,> >> > You are 100% right in your

> opinion. I have observed most of the> >> people wearing Navratna

rings

> having low quality gem stones in their> >> rings, other than maybe

the

> diamond in some cases. Even the Jewelery> >> stores selling Navratna

> rings have low quality gems in the Navratna> >> rings. I have

observed

> this in Dubai as well in Mumbai. The only way> >> is to buy good

> quality loose stones of the nine planets and give them> >> to a

> reliable Jeweler to make them into a Navratna ring as per the> >>

> correct placement .This is the reason I have opted to wear a good>

>>

> quality flawless gem suitable for me , rather than to go in for a>

>>

> Navratna Ring. I have observed from the photo's posted on ur site>

>>

> that You have high quality Navratna Rings. Maybe If And when I

visit>

> >> Thailand in the future, I will drop in our store and go for a

good>

> >> Navratna Ring. Thanks for the output on this subject.> >> >> >> >

> Best Regards> >> >> >> > Bijay Acharya> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

>>

> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >

Richard

> Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> >> > sacred-objects > >> >

> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:44:01 PM> >> > Subject:

> Re: Sri Navaratna - WHY DO HINDUS USE> >> JUNK

> STONES???> >> >> >> > No Baba! That is not the answer.> >> One

billion

> people don't use> >> > Navaratna, only a few. And I'm not right,

> Shastra is right.> > I'm still> >> > waiting for the answer. Y/s, R-

>

> >> >> >> > sacred-objects, greg <greg@>

> wrote:> >> > >> >> > > so baba is the answer 1 billion people are

> wrong and you> > are right?> >> > >> >> > > Richard Shaw Brown

wrote:>

> >> > > >> >> > > > Friends,> >> > > >> >> > > > In continuation of

the

> subject I must ask WHY 99.9% of Hindus> >> who use> >> > > >

Navaratna

> have ALL JUNK STONES & PHONY PEARL? Even rich> > Hindus use> >> > >

>

> junk stones and phony pearl Navaratnas.. . I saw a jewelery> >>

store

> in> >> > > > Singapore for Hindus and ALL, 100%, of the Navaratnas

> they had> >> were> >> > > > awful worthless JUNK. I asked why? The

> reply was, " THAT IS ALL> >> THAT> >> > > > HINDUS WANT! " > >> > > >>

>>

> > > > Consider:> >> > > > 1) Navaratna gems are small, so why do

they

> use worthless> > junk?> >> > > > 2) Why don't Hindus use FINE

QUALITY

> small stone Navaratnas?> >> > > > 3) Do Hindus understand the

> difference between visibly> > CLEAN or> >> > > > visibly FLAWED?

> Between GOOD and BAD?> >> > > > 4) Are Hindus too cheap or miserly

to

> spend the small> > money to get> >> > > > FINE GEM Navaratnas?> >>

> >

> >> >> > > > The ANSWER IS WAITING!???> >> > > >> >> > > > BTW: The

> 0.01% of Hindus who actually have fine gem and> >> natural pearl>

>> >

> > > Navaratnas MUST HAVE GOT THEM FROM Astral Gemstone Talismans.>

>>

> > > >> >> > > > So, WHAT IS THE ANSWER? Prove me wrong! Anyone?> >>

>

> > >> >> > > > sacred-objects> >> > > >

> <sacred- objects%40g roups.com> , Richard Shaw> > Brown>

> >> > <rsbj66@>> >> > > > wrote:> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Question. In

> India I never ONCE met any Indian wearing a> >> Navaratna> >> > > >

> where the gems were good. Even though small, the gems used are> >>

> always> >> > > > awful and junk. What is the reason? What is the

use?

> Even rich> >> > > > Indian's use total junk gems in Navaratna.

WHY!??>

> >> > > > >> >> > > > > The only Indian's who ever got a GOOD

navaratna

> must be MY> >> clients.> >> > > > Prove me wrong!!!ÃƒÆ'Ã‚â€š Y/s,

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November 3, 2008

Dear Punditji,

Please tell me where are this shops from foreigners for good diamonds??

Do you know address or phone numbers or names of shop & citys.

please as much as info you can give me.

thanks

rashmi

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004sacred-objects Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 3:45:40 AM Re: Sri Navaratna - WHY DO HINDUS USE JUNK STONES???

dear brother richardyour observations are correct that most gemstones sold in india are junk and on percentage level around 99 percent of the gemstones sold in india are junk.your observation of rich getting richer and poor getting poorer also draws a parallel of how a person who cannot afford a precious or semi precious gem just go for a similar lookalike coloured stone to satisfy himself that he too got a gem. poor people too can have great benefic results by doing zero expense remedies like fasting, recital of mantras, vratas and wearing inexpensive rudraksha.however, i request you to kindly reframe the word "hindu jewellers" with "gemsellers in india" or "indian gemsellers" because namecalling of hindu religious jewellers would hurt the sentiments of hindus.here, i also wish to highlight that more than a quarter of gemsellers in india are jains. there are many leading muslim

gold and gemsellers all over the country. there are few parsi, sikh and very few christian gemsellers too in the country. so it is not just hindu jewellers who sell gems in india.recently the world's largest gold mining companies have set up their shops in india and they have started selling genuine precious diamonds. accordingly, a couple of belgium based leading diamond sellers too have opened shops in india and are selling genuine diamonds. except for these genuine diamonds, i have not seen any other foreign companies in india selling other precious stones.hence, it is apt to say that most indian gemsellers sell junk stones instead of calling hindu gemsellers.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy .comsacred-objects@

. com, "Richard Shaw Brown" <rsbj66 wrote:>> Yes!!! Absolutely right! The Hindu jewelers are to blame for stocking> JUNK stones which are harmful ... just for the poor people. So what is> this? The poor people get the "bad luck" trash, and remain worse off;> but the rich get the lucky Jyotish quality gems and life improves.> > The jewelers of India are the GURUS to the public in gemology. If a> poor man comes for luck he should be advised against junk and advised> a cheap Rudraksha. If rich man comes then he can buy LUCKY top quality> GOOD gems. The jeweler should NEVER stock junk for sale!!> > What if a sweet-milk-rice seller adds 'sand' into the sweet rice!?> Then no one can eat it! He should only sell pure sweet rice.> > The sad fact is that most of the Indian gem gurus, the Hindu

jewelers> (like Rahul by admission), buy and stock JUNK and are rascals who are> responsible for the problem.> > It is not that EVERYONE can have a gem. What if a poor man wants to> buy a Lear Jet Airplane costing crores. Well, sorry! HE CAN NOT HAVE> ONE!!! We don't sell him a broken kite.> > But sure, uparatnas can be used in jyotish quality. But Hindu jewelers> even stock junk semi-precious. "Junk" is their middle name. But good> quality alone is worthy of praise, in all fields. Like a junk person> is never praiseworthy. Junk food is never praiseworthy. Sweet rice> with sand is never praiseworthy. And people who sell JUNK are always> rascals.> > Using semi precious GOOD QUALITY gems one can make a cheaper Navaratna> like:> > SUN: red garnet> MOON: Moon stone> JUPITER: Citrine> RAHU: orange

zircon> MERCURY: Peridot> VENUS: White zircon> KETU: Fibrolite cats eye> SATURN: Iolite> MARS: Carnelian> > These above in small Navartana sizes like 4-5mm cost peanuts. So where> is the place for JUNK? In no field or area of life is JUNK any thing> but JUNK.> > So maybe a Hindu jewelery shop should be called "Junk Yard!?"> > It is the blame of the jewelers for stocking and selling JUNK. Rather> they should be teaching the clients what is right and wrong. And> stocking only RIGHT. Wrong is wrong and right is right. But the Hindu> jewelers buy, stock and sell junk to unlucky misguided poor people.> That is terrible and despicable. And MUST be condemned by all!!!> > Y/s,> Richard> > sacred-objects, summa iru anama <typhon777@>> wrote:> >> > > > > > dear friends!> > Trash gemstones,are not gems at all, they are just dead energy cells> causing diseases and misfortune.. just the fact that flawless gem is> alive entity, wich took some few hundred thousands of years to> develop, even up to million years and more, means that quality> gemstones are pricelles comodity in that respect...just look at the> fact that by wearing jyotish quality gemstones, you are as an> individual in a possesion of thousands of years old entity,and if you> are sincearly recpecting that fact, than you are aware of the true> beauty of life, wich manifests, in this case as a crystalised form> created by combinations of different elements...> > >

> excuses likem "if I dont sell junk navaratna, buyer will go to> another shop and he is going to buy it from somebody else" is> patetic...the whole idea of buying quality gemstones goes far beyond> material value ...in my experience, for the first jyotish quality gem> I bought, I was working for 6 month for free(I was payed 6 month in> front, in order just to buy a gem), and when I finally got my gem, I> realised that the knowledge I gained ,just by phisically having the> gem in in my hands, goes far beyond than knowledge that we can gain by> teachings of sacred texts...no wonder that original anicent knowledge> remains hidden....> > > > ps...can you make navaratna from secundary gemstones? If it can be> done, than it would be possible for everybody to have beneficial> navaratna talisman, for modest price...> > > > best

wishes & kind regards > vjenceslav> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects@ : rsbj66@: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:02:52> +0000 Re: Sri Navaratna - WHY DO HINDUS USE> JUNK STONES???> > > > > > > > Dear Rahul,The point is that Hindus are to believe in Shastra> praman. About poorcheap bad quality junk stones and bogus pearls> Shastra has said (a fewexamples) :"Pure, flawless gems have auspicious> powers which can protect one fromdemons, snakes, poisons, diseases,> sinful reactions, and otherdangers, while flawed stones have the> opposite effect."GARUDA- PURANAM: Chapter 68, Verse 17 "A gem free from> all impurities and radiating its characteristicinter nal luster should> be looked upon as an escort of good luck. A gemwhich is cracked,> fissured,

devoid of luster, or appearing rough orsandy, should not be> used at all." AGNI-PURANAM: Chapter 246, Verse 7 & 8 Sri Garuda> Puranam, it is stated by Sri Suta Goswami, "A ruby,although genuine,> should not be worn if it has strong color banding,excessive inclusions> within like numerous internal cracks, a sandyappearance, a rough> surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone usingsuch a flawed ruby,> even out of ignorance, will suffer from disease,or loss of> fortune."--- So as a jeweler who is Hindu it is your duty to advise> poor peopleNOT to wear bad gems. "Jyotish Quality" gems can be> expensive, orcheaper if you use "uparatna" semi-precious gems. And> only those whohave money OR are not misers can afford good gems. So> what is ajeweler in Indian doing selling BAD gems? Is this just out of> greed?If a man comes and says "I want to drink poison" will

you sell> to himjust out of greed?Because gems are valuable (when good) so they> are called gems. Junk isnot called gems, it is called trash! That is> why it is better toadvise poor people away from bad gems. Rudraksha> are very low pricedand always do good. So please advise rich clients> to buy GOOD gems,and poor clients to by GOOD Rudraksha. That is the> correct way.,Any jeweler who sells junk, either from Sri Lanka, or> Bangkok, or theMoon, is to be condemned. And such person can never> join the PGAwww.p-g-a. org because we have RULES.If in deed you sell> junk to poor people, against advice of Shastra,then you're a rascal,> and the REALLY GREEDY ONE. And, may I ask, WHYyou stock JUNK stones> for sale? Don't you have any class?Y/s,Richard- -- In> sacred-objects, "Rahul S Pokarna"<pokarnagem s@>> wrote:>> Hi Guys,> In India people dont wear junk/low quality of> gemstones just out ofmind.> They are very much aware about the quality> of the stones required. I> am a Gemologist and a jewellery too.> The> problem lies in their budget. The major populatio is middle and> low> class and they cannot afford fine quality gems. So they have to> opt> for medium and low quality gems. Also i would lke to tell that> gems> from Bangkok/ Thailand is of not much great quality. They have> been> treated with chemicals and permanently dyed. Here ppl prefer Gems>> from Srilanka which are of much better quality for astrological>> purposes than a fine quality of gemstone from Thailand.> > And i am> sure any true and

spiritualy enlightened person will agree> with me> when i say that Wearing and gemstone or chanting mantra will> change> ur life . Its only astrologers who have half knowledge for> their own> selfish motives play with the minds of people asking them to> wear so> and so stone and perform pooja.> > Its only ur deeds good/ bad that is> the reason for what u are facing> , where u r and where u will be.> >> For leading a good life all one needs is> > Think good, feel good and> do good.> > Regards> > Rahul S Pokarna> > On 11/1/08, Rick Brown> <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > ---to be greatest in the world we must know> over 6 billion people. The> > greatest on earth never needs to say> because he will be famous asworld's> > greatest ...> > Might be> reincarnate of Shri Varahamihira. ?>

>> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at> 11:07 PM, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> > wrote:> > "The Astrologist> proclaims to be world best astrologer" --- WOW!!!> > Must be Parasara> Muni. Otherwise he's a joke!!!> >> >> >> > --- In> sacred-objects, vasdev kripalani udharam> >> <binnumero@> wrote:> >>> >> Respected sir,> >> Recently i saw a> programe on Astrology, wherein the Astrologist> > say " Please dont> wear Navratna" this may bring good luck and bad> > luck also. But it> brings more of Bad luck.The Astrologist proclaims> > to be world best> astrologer.I myself i am into Numero,but not in> > astro,

hence> various doubts do arises in one mind.and now regarding> >> hindu,muslim, and christian,is in one mind.Which we have got from our>> > ancestors.I only know one thing we all are human being.> >> We> should send message of love and humanity.> >> As i know we all are> under one roof.> >>> >> I am thankful to come across a pious> person.,happy deepwali> >>> >> binode kripalani> >>> >> Richard Shaw> Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > Rspd Sriman,> >>> >> Can everyone wear> Rudraksha? YES. Does everyone wear Rudraksha? NO.> >>> >> Can everyone> wear Navaratna? YES. Does everyone wear Navaratna? NO.> >>> >> What> does "CARAT" have to do with anything? There is no word nor> >> weight> "carat" in all Sanskrit language.

Carat is an English wordthat> >> is> not same as a Ratti.> >>> >> To wear a SRI Navaratna of Jyotish> quality gems requires ONLY good> >> fortune karma.> >>> >> Y/s,> >>> Richard> >>> >> sacred-objects, vasdev> kripalani udharam> >> <binnumero@> wrote:> >> >> >> > Acharyaji,> >> >> Can everybody wear Navratna.? I doubt as because of "CARAT"and> >>> other reason too. This is my understanding, please clarify, if i am>> >> wrong?> >> > binode kripalani> >> >> >> > Bijay Acharya <bijay_a@>> wrote:> >>> >> > Dear Richard Ji,>

>> > You are 100% right in your> opinion. I have observed most of the> >> people wearing Navratna rings> having low quality gem stones in their> >> rings, other than maybe the> diamond in some cases. Even the Jewelery> >> stores selling Navratna> rings have low quality gems in the Navratna> >> rings. I have observed> this in Dubai as well in Mumbai. The only way> >> is to buy good> quality loose stones of the nine planets and give them> >> to a> reliable Jeweler to make them into a Navratna ring as per the> >>> correct placement .This is the reason I have opted to wear a good> >>> quality flawless gem suitable for me , rather than to go in for a> >>> Navratna Ring. I have observed from the photo's posted on ur site> >>> that You have high quality Navratna

Rings. Maybe If And when I visit>> >> Thailand in the future, I will drop in our store and go for a good>> >> Navratna Ring. Thanks for the output on this subject.> >> >> >> >> Best Regards> >> >> >> > Bijay Acharya> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> >> > Richard> Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> >> > sacred-objects> >> >> Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:44:01 PM> >> > Subject:> Re: Sri Navaratna - WHY DO HINDUS USE> >> JUNK> STONES???>

>> >> >> > No Baba! That is not the answer.> >> One billion> people don't use> >> > Navaratna, only a few. And I'm not right,> Shastra is right.> > I'm still> >> > waiting for the answer. Y/s, R->> >> >> >> > sacred-objects, greg <greg@>> wrote:> >> > >> >> > > so baba is the answer 1 billion people are> wrong and you> > are right?> >> > >> >> > > Richard Shaw Brown wrote:>> >> > > >> >> > > > Friends,> >> > > >> >> > > > In continuation of the> subject I must ask WHY 99.9% of Hindus> >> who use> >> > > > Navaratna> have ALL JUNK STONES & PHONY PEARL? Even rich> > Hindus use> >> >

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Dear Panditji,

As a proud Hindu myself your point is well taken. I would always stand

up for Hinduism and have done so many times. I built 2 schools in

India, and I was close friends with the biggest Hindus, including

President VV Giri. My Gurus are Hindus. And my Dharma is Hindu.

But the point about the other religions in India who also are in gem

business, like Muslim, Jain, Sikh, etc., is only valid if their

Shastras ALSO forbid BAD stones. As I believe only Hindu Shastras have

this injunction against JUNK STONES. It is only a Hindu rule. Therefore no one

can rightly fault the others.

Jai Hind!!!

Y/friend

Richard

sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear brother richard

>

> your observations are correct that most gemstones sold in india are

> junk and on percentage level around 99 percent of the gemstones sold

> in india are junk.

>

> your observation of rich getting richer and poor getting poorer also

> draws a parallel of how a person who cannot afford a precious or semi

> precious gem just go for a similar lookalike coloured stone to

> satisfy himself that he too got a gem. poor people too can have

> great benefic results by doing zero expense remedies like fasting,

> recital of mantras, vratas and wearing inexpensive rudraksha.

>

> however, i request you to kindly reframe the word " hindu jewellers "

> with " gemsellers in india " or " indian gemsellers " because namecalling

> of hindu religious jewellers would hurt the sentiments of hindus.

>

> here, i also wish to highlight that more than a quarter of gemsellers

> in india are jains. there are many leading muslim gold and

> gemsellers all over the country. there are few parsi, sikh and very

> few christian gemsellers too in the country. so it is not just hindu

> jewellers who sell gems in india.

>

> recently the world's largest gold mining companies have set up their

> shops in india and they have started selling genuine precious

> diamonds. accordingly, a couple of belgium based leading diamond

> sellers too have opened shops in india and are selling genuine

> diamonds. except for these genuine diamonds, i have not seen any

> other foreign companies in india selling other precious stones.

>

> hence, it is apt to say that most indian gemsellers sell junk stones

> instead of calling hindu gemsellers.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown "

> <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > Yes!!! Absolutely right! The Hindu jewelers are to blame for

> stocking

> > JUNK stones which are harmful ... just for the poor people. So what

> is

> > this? The poor people get the " bad luck " trash, and remain worse

> off;

> > but the rich get the lucky Jyotish quality gems and life improves.

> >

> > The jewelers of India are the GURUS to the public in gemology. If a

> > poor man comes for luck he should be advised against junk and

> advised

> > a cheap Rudraksha. If rich man comes then he can buy LUCKY top

> quality

> > GOOD gems. The jeweler should NEVER stock junk for sale!!

> >

> > What if a sweet-milk-rice seller adds 'sand' into the sweet rice!?

> > Then no one can eat it! He should only sell pure sweet rice.

> >

> > The sad fact is that most of the Indian gem gurus, the Hindu

> jewelers

> > (like Rahul by admission), buy and stock JUNK and are rascals who

> are

> > responsible for the problem.

> >

> > It is not that EVERYONE can have a gem. What if a poor man wants to

> > buy a Lear Jet Airplane costing crores. Well, sorry! HE CAN NOT HAVE

> > ONE!!! We don't sell him a broken kite.

> >

> > But sure, uparatnas can be used in jyotish quality. But Hindu

> jewelers

> > even stock junk semi-precious. " Junk " is their middle name. But good

> > quality alone is worthy of praise, in all fields. Like a junk person

> > is never praiseworthy. Junk food is never praiseworthy. Sweet rice

> > with sand is never praiseworthy. And people who sell JUNK are always

> > rascals.

> >

> > Using semi precious GOOD QUALITY gems one can make a cheaper

> Navaratna

> > like:

> >

> > SUN: red garnet

> > MOON: Moon stone

> > JUPITER: Citrine

> > RAHU: orange zircon

> > MERCURY: Peridot

> > VENUS: White zircon

> > KETU: Fibrolite cats eye

> > SATURN: Iolite

> > MARS: Carnelian

> >

> > These above in small Navartana sizes like 4-5mm cost peanuts. So

> where

> > is the place for JUNK? In no field or area of life is JUNK any thing

> > but JUNK.

> >

> > So maybe a Hindu jewelery shop should be called " Junk Yard!? "

> >

> > It is the blame of the jewelers for stocking and selling JUNK.

> Rather

> > they should be teaching the clients what is right and wrong. And

> > stocking only RIGHT. Wrong is wrong and right is right. But the

> Hindu

> > jewelers buy, stock and sell junk to unlucky misguided poor people.

> > That is terrible and despicable. And MUST be condemned by all!!!

> >

> > Y/s,

> > Richard

> >

> > sacred-objects , summa iru anama <typhon777@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends!

> > > Trash gemstones,are not gems at all, they are just dead energy

> cells

> > causing diseases and misfortune..just the fact that flawless gem is

> > alive entity, wich took some few hundred thousands of years to

> > develop, even up to million years and more, means that quality

> > gemstones are pricelles comodity in that respect...just look at the

> > fact that by wearing jyotish quality gemstones, you are as an

> > individual in a possesion of thousands of years old entity,and if

> you

> > are sincearly recpecting that fact, than you are aware of the true

> > beauty of life, wich manifests, in this case as a crystalised form

> > created by combinations of different elements...

> > >

> > > excuses likem " if I dont sell junk navaratna, buyer will go to

> > another shop and he is going to buy it from somebody else " is

> > patetic...the whole idea of buying quality gemstones goes far beyond

> > material value ...in my experience, for the first jyotish quality

> gem

> > I bought, I was working for 6 month for free(I was payed 6 month in

> > front, in order just to buy a gem), and when I finally got my gem, I

> > realised that the knowledge I gained ,just by phisically having the

> > gem in in my hands, goes far beyond than knowledge that we can gain

> by

> > teachings of sacred texts...no wonder that original anicent

> knowledge

> > remains hidden....

> > >

> > > ps...can you make navaratna from secundary gemstones? If it can be

> > done, than it would be possible for everybody to have beneficial

> > navaratna talisman, for modest price...

> > >

> > > best wishes & kind regards

> > vjenceslav

> > >

> > > sacred-objects@: rsbj66@: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:02:52

> > +0000 Re: Sri Navaratna - WHY DO HINDUS USE

> > JUNK STONES???

> > >

> > > Dear Rahul,The point is that Hindus are to believe in Shastra

> > praman. About poorcheap bad quality junk stones and bogus pearls

> > Shastra has said (a fewexamples): " Pure, flawless gems have

> auspicious

> > powers which can protect one fromdemons, snakes, poisons, diseases,

> > sinful reactions, and otherdangers, while flawed stones have the

> > opposite effect. " GARUDA-PURANAM: Chapter 68, Verse 17 " A gem free

> from

> > all impurities and radiating its characteristicinternal luster

> should

> > be looked upon as an escort of good luck. A gemwhich is cracked,

> > fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing rough orsandy, should not

> be

> > used at all. " AGNI-PURANAM: Chapter 246, Verse 7 & 8 Sri Garuda

> > Puranam, it is stated by Sri Suta Goswami, " A ruby,although genuine,

> > should not be worn if it has strong color banding,excessive

> inclusions

> > within like numerous internal cracks, a sandyappearance, a rough

> > surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone usingsuch a flawed ruby,

> > even out of ignorance, will suffer from disease,or loss of

> > fortune. " ---So as a jeweler who is Hindu it is your duty to advise

> > poor peopleNOT to wear bad gems. " Jyotish Quality " gems can be

> > expensive, orcheaper if you use " uparatna " semi-precious gems. And

> > only those whohave money OR are not misers can afford good gems. So

> > what is ajeweler in Indian doing selling BAD gems? Is this just out

> of

> > greed?If a man comes and says " I want to drink poison " will you sell

> > to himjust out of greed?Because gems are valuable (when good) so

> they

> > are called gems. Junk isnot called gems, it is called trash! That is

> > why it is better toadvise poor people away from bad gems. Rudraksha

> > are very low pricedand always do good. So please advise rich clients

> > to buy GOOD gems,and poor clients to by GOOD Rudraksha. That is the

> > correct way.,Any jeweler who sells junk, either from Sri Lanka, or

> > Bangkok, or theMoon, is to be condemned. And such person can never

> > join the PGAwww.p-g-a.org because we have RULES.If in deed you sell

> > junk to poor people, against advice of Shastra,then you're a rascal,

> > and the REALLY GREEDY ONE. And, may I ask, WHYyou stock JUNK stones

> > for sale? Don't you have any class?Y/s,Richard--- In

> > sacred-objects , " Rahul S Pokarna " <pokarnagems@>

> > wrote:>> Hi Guys,> In India people dont wear junk/low quality of

> > gemstones just out ofmind.> They are very much aware about the

> quality

> > of the stones required. I> am a Gemologist and a jewellery too.> The

> > problem lies in their budget. The major populatio is middle and> low

> > class and they cannot afford fine quality gems. So they have to> opt

> > for medium and low quality gems. Also i would lke to tell that> gems

> > from Bangkok/ Thailand is of not much great quality. They have> been

> > treated with chemicals and permanently dyed. Here ppl prefer Gems>

> > from Srilanka which are of much better quality for astrological>

> > purposes than a fine quality of gemstone from Thailand.> > And i am

> > sure any true and spiritualy enlightened person will agree> with me

> > when i say that Wearing and gemstone or chanting mantra will> change

> > ur life . Its only astrologers who have half knowledge for> their

> own

> > selfish motives play with the minds of people asking them to> wear

> so

> > and so stone and perform pooja.> > Its only ur deeds good/ bad that

> is

> > the reason for what u are facing> , where u r and where u will be.>

> >

> > For leading a good life all one needs is> > Think good, feel good

> and

> > do good.> > Regards> > Rahul S Pokarna> > On 11/1/08, Rick Brown

> > <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > ---to be greatest in the world we must know

> > over 6 billion people. The> > greatest on earth never needs to say

> > because he will be famous asworld's> > greatest ...> > Might be

> > reincarnate of Shri Varahamihira.?> >> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008

> at

> > 11:07 PM, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> > wrote:> > " The Astrologist

> > proclaims to be world best astrologer " --- WOW!!!> > Must be

> Parasara

> > Muni. Otherwise he's a joke!!!> >> >> >> > --- In

> > sacred-objects , vasdev kripalani udharam> >

> > <binnumero@> wrote:> >>> >> Respected sir,> >> Recently i saw a

> > programe on Astrology, wherein the Astrologist> > say " Please dont

> > wear Navratna " this may bring good luck and bad> > luck also. But it

> > brings more of Bad luck.The Astrologist proclaims> > to be world

> best

> > astrologer.I myself i am into Numero,but not in> > astro, hence

> > various doubts do arises in one mind.and now regarding> >

> > hindu,muslim,and christian,is in one mind.Which we have got from

> our>

> > > ancestors.I only know one thing we all are human being.> >> We

> > should send message of love and humanity.> >> As i know we all are

> > under one roof.> >>> >> I am thankful to come across a pious

> > person.,happy deepwali> >>> >> binode kripalani> >>> >> Richard Shaw

> > Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > Rspd Sriman,> >>> >> Can everyone wear

> > Rudraksha? YES. Does everyone wear Rudraksha? NO.> >>> >> Can

> everyone

> > wear Navaratna? YES. Does everyone wear Navaratna? NO.> >>> >> What

> > does " CARAT " have to do with anything? There is no word nor> >>

> weight

> > " carat " in all Sanskrit language. Carat is an English wordthat> >>

> is

> > not same as a Ratti.> >>> >> To wear a SRI Navaratna of Jyotish

> > quality gems requires ONLY good> >> fortune karma.> >>> >> Y/s,> >>

> > Richard> >>> >> sacred-objects , vasdev

> > kripalani udharam> >> <binnumero@> wrote:> >> >> >> > Acharyaji,>

> >> >

> > Can everybody wear Navratna.? I doubt as because of " CARAT " and> >>

> > other reason too. This is my understanding, please clarify, if i am>

> > >> wrong?> >> > binode kripalani> >> >> >> > Bijay Acharya

> <bijay_a@>

> > wrote:> >>> >> > Dear Richard Ji,> >> > You are 100% right in your

> > opinion. I have observed most of the> >> people wearing Navratna

> rings

> > having low quality gem stones in their> >> rings, other than maybe

> the

> > diamond in some cases. Even the Jewelery> >> stores selling Navratna

> > rings have low quality gems in the Navratna> >> rings. I have

> observed

> > this in Dubai as well in Mumbai. The only way> >> is to buy good

> > quality loose stones of the nine planets and give them> >> to a

> > reliable Jeweler to make them into a Navratna ring as per the> >>

> > correct placement .This is the reason I have opted to wear a good>

> >>

> > quality flawless gem suitable for me , rather than to go in for a>

> >>

> > Navratna Ring. I have observed from the photo's posted on ur site>

> >>

> > that You have high quality Navratna Rings. Maybe If And when I

> visit>

> > >> Thailand in the future, I will drop in our store and go for a

> good>

> > >> Navratna Ring. Thanks for the output on this subject.> >> >> >> >

> > Best Regards> >> >> >> > Bijay Acharya> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

> >>

> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >

> Richard

> > Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> >> > sacred-objects > >> >

> > Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:44:01 PM> >> > Subject:

> > Re: Sri Navaratna - WHY DO HINDUS USE> >> JUNK

> > STONES???> >> >> >> > No Baba! That is not the answer.> >> One

> billion

> > people don't use> >> > Navaratna, only a few. And I'm not right,

> > Shastra is right.> > I'm still> >> > waiting for the answer. Y/s, R-

> >

> > >> >> >> > sacred-objects, greg <greg@>

> > wrote:> >> > >> >> > > so baba is the answer 1 billion people are

> > wrong and you> > are right?> >> > >> >> > > Richard Shaw Brown

> wrote:>

> > >> > > >> >> > > > Friends,> >> > > >> >> > > > In continuation of

> the

> > subject I must ask WHY 99.9% of Hindus> >> who use> >> > > >

> Navaratna

> > have ALL JUNK STONES & PHONY PEARL? Even rich> > Hindus use> >> > >

> >

> > junk stones and phony pearl Navaratnas.. . I saw a jewelery> >>

> store

> > in> >> > > > Singapore for Hindus and ALL, 100%, of the Navaratnas

> > they had> >> were> >> > > > awful worthless JUNK. I asked why? The

> > reply was, " THAT IS ALL> >> THAT> >> > > > HINDUS WANT! " > >> > > >>

> >>

> > > > > Consider:> >> > > > 1) Navaratna gems are small, so why do

> they

> > use worthless> > junk?> >> > > > 2) Why don't Hindus use FINE

> QUALITY

> > small stone Navaratnas?> >> > > > 3) Do Hindus understand the

> > difference between visibly> > CLEAN or> >> > > > visibly FLAWED?

> > Between GOOD and BAD?> >> > > > 4) Are Hindus too cheap or miserly

> to

> > spend the small> > money to get> >> > > > FINE GEM Navaratnas?> >>

> > >

> > >> >> > > > The ANSWER IS WAITING!???> >> > > >> >> > > > BTW: The

> > 0.01% of Hindus who actually have fine gem and> >> natural pearl>

> >> >

> > > > Navaratnas MUST HAVE GOT THEM FROM Astral Gemstone Talismans.>

> >>

> > > > >> >> > > > So, WHAT IS THE ANSWER? Prove me wrong! Anyone?> >>

> >

> > > >> >> > > > sacred-objects> >> > > >

> > <sacred- objects%40g roups.com> , Richard Shaw> > Brown>

> > >> > <rsbj66@>> >> > > > wrote:> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Question. In

> > India I never ONCE met any Indian wearing a> >> Navaratna> >> > > >

> > where the gems were good. Even though small, the gems used are> >>

> > always> >> > > > awful and junk. What is the reason? What is the

> use?

> > Even rich> >> > > > Indian's use total junk gems in Navaratna.

> WHY!??>

> > >> > > > >> >> > > > > The only Indian's who ever got a GOOD

> navaratna

> > must be MY> >> clients.> >> > > > Prove me wrong!!!Ãƒï¿½'Ã‚â€š Y/s,

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November 3, 2008

Punditji,

Really is this shunk really worth 7000 rupees per gram meaning for 92 grams it cost 6.3 lacks, sorry but is this not way over costly, person can have a real gold laxmijis murti or even big heavy pure silver laxmi & vishnujis murtis to pray basically you are praying goddess laxmiji,

no wonder why indians might not appriciating this high cost?any way if some one can justify this concept?

is it worth to spend this kind of money on shunk & not on real gold or silver laxmi=vishnu murtis

please get me wrong but i dont have any idea on this shunk?

please guide me