Chintamani stone or just Green Moldavite with glowing Striation at nite ????

May 4, 2009

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The Chintamani Stone and Eye of Ray aka Lumen Ab Varum Connection?

I was watching my documentaries, reading some old books, like I have been for

the past few years in the evening and I came across an interesting idea!

Has anyone heard about the Chintamani Stone? The story behind it seems very

similar to the story we've received about the Lumen Ab Verum!

With the current massive outpouring of information regarding the fabled Holy

Grail (or Grails) it is impossible to ignore what may be the very first Holy

Grail on Earth, the Chintamani Stone, the " Treasure of the World. "

Between 1923-1928 this stone, which first manifested on Earth many thousands of

years before the Cup of Christ, was taken by the great Russian artist and mystic

Nicholas Roerich into the heartland of the Far East in order to reunite it with

the mother stone it had been separated from, a massive jewel that resided in

Shambhala, the Land of the Immortals.

This Chintamani Stone, which is of extra-terrestrial origin, had supposedly been

brought to Earth by emissaries from a planet orbiting the star Sirius and then

handed over to Shambhala's principal resident, the elusive " King of the World, "

a monarch known by many mystics in the East but only by a handful of occultists

in the West. In regards to its identity in the Holy Grail legends, the

Chintamani Stone appears to be synonymous with the " Stone of Heaven, " the Holy

Grail manifestation mentioned by Wolfram von Eschenbach in his famous Grail

rendition known as Parzival, which is regarded by most Grail scholars to be the

most complete and authoritative of the Grail legends.

The Chintamani Stone certainly fits the profile of Eschenbach's enigmatic Stone

of Heaven because, like its literary counterpart, the Treasure of the World is

said to possess both the power to make a human immortal, as well as to have come

to Earth from " Heaven " (Sirius), a truth that is supposedly engraved upon it as

Sanscrit letters that Roerich once translated as,

" Through the Stars I come. I bring the chalice (Grail) covered with the shield. "

Like Eschenbach's stone the Chintamani Stone is, apparently, also green in

color, since Roerich is on record as also stating that the Chintamani Stone is

similar in appearance to a species of meteorite known as Moldavite, which is

dark green in color. If the Chintamani Stone is indeed Eschenbach's Stone of

Heaven could it also be the original Philosophers Stone, which legends assert

could turn a base metal into gold and a human into an immortal deity? Could it

be the original Holy Grail, the one that was later emulated by all Holy Grails,

including the Cup of Christ and the wood of the True Cross?

With so much evidence in its support of its power and existence, it does indeed

appear that the study of the Chintamani Stone should warrant special

consideration in any contemporary Holy Grail research.

Thanks !!!! Would loved to know comments

May 5, 2009

Dear Bala Sanyogi

Greetings

Do you own this stone? If yes, then let us know how do you feel after having it

in your custody? Or how does this work to leave its effect? What is your

experience about this stone?

With regards

Sushma

sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi wrote:

>

> Album fotos in this group's foto upload album

>

sacred-objects/photos/album/734223410/pic/list?mod\

e=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & dir=asc

>

> The Chintamani Stone and Eye of Ray aka Lumen Ab Varum Connection?

>

> I was watching my documentaries, reading some old books, like I have been for

the past few years in the evening and I came across an interesting idea!

>

> Has anyone heard about the Chintamani Stone? The story behind it seems very

similar to the story we've received about the Lumen Ab Verum!

>

> With the current massive outpouring of information regarding the fabled Holy

Grail (or Grails) it is impossible to ignore what may be the very first Holy

Grail on Earth, the Chintamani Stone, the " Treasure of the World. "

>

> Between 1923-1928 this stone, which first manifested on Earth many thousands

of years before the Cup of Christ, was taken by the great Russian artist and

mystic Nicholas Roerich into the heartland of the Far East in order to reunite

it with the mother stone it had been separated from, a massive jewel that

resided in Shambhala, the Land of the Immortals.

>

> This Chintamani Stone, which is of extra-terrestrial origin, had supposedly

been brought to Earth by emissaries from a planet orbiting the star Sirius and

then handed over to Shambhala's principal resident, the elusive " King of the

World, " a monarch known by many mystics in the East but only by a handful of

occultists in the West. In regards to its identity in the Holy Grail legends,

the Chintamani Stone appears to be synonymous with the " Stone of Heaven, " the

Holy Grail manifestation mentioned by Wolfram von Eschenbach in his famous Grail

rendition known as Parzival, which is regarded by most Grail scholars to be the

most complete and authoritative of the Grail legends.

>

> The Chintamani Stone certainly fits the profile of Eschenbach's enigmatic

Stone of Heaven because, like its literary counterpart, the Treasure of the

World is said to possess both the power to make a human immortal, as well as to

have come to Earth from " Heaven " (Sirius), a truth that is supposedly engraved

upon it as Sanscrit letters that Roerich once translated as,

>

> " Through the Stars I come. I bring the chalice (Grail) covered with the

shield. "

>

> Like Eschenbach's stone the Chintamani Stone is, apparently, also green in

color, since Roerich is on record as also stating that the Chintamani Stone is

similar in appearance to a species of meteorite known as Moldavite, which is

dark green in color. If the Chintamani Stone is indeed Eschenbach's Stone of

Heaven could it also be the original Philosophers Stone, which legends assert

could turn a base metal into gold and a human into an immortal deity? Could it

be the original Holy Grail, the one that was later emulated by all Holy Grails,

including the Cup of Christ and the wood of the True Cross?

>

> With so much evidence in its support of its power and existence, it does

indeed appear that the study of the Chintamani Stone should warrant special

consideration in any contemporary Holy Grail research.

>

> Thanks !!!! Would loved to know comments

>

May 5, 2009

Dear Sir

Frank and Honestly, I do not give a 2 bits to the beliefs supposed to be aspired

benefits. But for difficult intangible resolutions in my work, I would like to

toy this 330 gram (approx) tumbled stone in my hands and sort of rolling, while

sitting (after sunset) in the roof top garden of the condo.

I have seems to arrived at decisions, mostly irrational at first evaluation, but

practical solutions, however, I can't attribute to this stone, as it may be my

life long experience, too.

Of the multitudes, after the first sucessful but almost lunatic idea then

(1989), when we run a screen on all the plant extracts stored in freezers from

the research of March of Ides (from anti polio research in 1953)for then new

GRID ( Gay related Infectious Diease) now called Hiv/Aids, I was screen again

and again on west african/Malaysian tropical tree fruit extract, and wondering

what was the component that eliminates all the Grid virus (1, 2, and 3and its

variables).

But unable to recognise the component, i was just playing & toying with this

stone (and 8 other stony materials) that came to USA, as something I should keep

as part of the old Trust of 1842 registered in London (Wodeyar Trust 1842) for

safe keeping with me.

I was not least interested but was toying this new addition as I have many other

additions thru out my travels since 16 years old (1967)

It just appeared to me to say, there is a protease (component) that does the

work of elimination, but its actually a lunatic suggestion, and would be (it

was) very hilarious musing to say so, to others. as no protease was ever

recorded in any research prior, to act as an inhibitor of any virus.

I did say so, without any proof, or background elaboration.

I was asked, " Are You sure you know what you saying??? "

Being tired of sleepless nites and also embrassed, and being unable to back out,

which would affect my credibilities in future.

All I said " lets check it out !!! " " "

The rest is history, as synthetic protease are manufactured as Protease as

inhinitors in HIV/AIDS Cocktail drugs, which now prolong (since 1997) lives of

infected patients, to " mean 10 years " , even in terminal stages of AIDS, when

death is couple of weeks or months away.

As I have wrote maybe its my experiences and knowledge or may be the stone (to

be the stone, its fallacy to me) ...

There were others similar unsubstianted ravings of lunacies, is what later

become Tamiflu, for bird flu, and again was toying this stone,in 1999 when HK

was hit first time, and remembered long ago(1971) in Kovalum Beach, kerala,

while drinking toddy with an old keralaee, he mentioned about why the normal

drinking water in kerala, was added with cumin and star anise spices, in holding

water containers in every house.And blah and blah so on,

Similar, today the true starting material of tamiflu is Star Anise, but

synthesized partly by humans, to stop/discourge you or any one from using real

star-anise, as remedy for bird flu.

For all other experiences, I can't say much as all things good are always there.

What I load is my property held on behalf of the family trust, but there seems

to 14 more held by different persons (my generation) with the wodeyar namesake,

but mostly, they are very pious about this stone and the cobrastone of yellow

semi-transparent chlorophane ( small round pearl like / ball like pea size ( and

not flat round as a circle, thats shown in pga web site, but lights are all same

as greenish with the yellowish tinto or yellowish faint outline (of the

chlorophane) in the center of the greenish glow) that radiates at night

Cheers

(E & O acceptable).

sacred-objects , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote:

>

> Dear Bala Sanyogi

> Greetings

>

> Do you own this stone? If yes, then let us know how do you feel after having

it in your custody? Or how does this work to leave its effect? What is your

experience about this stone?

>

> With regards

> Sushma

>

> sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi@> wrote:

> >

> > Album fotos in this group's foto upload album

> >

sacred-objects/photos/album/734223410/pic/list?mod\

e=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & dir=asc

> >

> > The Chintamani Stone and Eye of Ray aka Lumen Ab Varum Connection?

> >

> > I was watching my documentaries, reading some old books, like I have been

for the past few years in the evening and I came across an interesting idea!

> >

> > Has anyone heard about the Chintamani Stone? The story behind it seems very

similar to the story we've received about the Lumen Ab Verum!

> >

> > With the current massive outpouring of information regarding the fabled Holy

Grail (or Grails) it is impossible to ignore what may be the very first Holy

Grail on Earth, the Chintamani Stone, the " Treasure of the World. "

> >

> > Between 1923-1928 this stone, which first manifested on Earth many thousands

of years before the Cup of Christ, was taken by the great Russian artist and

mystic Nicholas Roerich into the heartland of the Far East in order to reunite

it with the mother stone it had been separated from, a massive jewel that

resided in Shambhala, the Land of the Immortals.

> >

> > This Chintamani Stone, which is of extra-terrestrial origin, had supposedly

been brought to Earth by emissaries from a planet orbiting the star Sirius and

then handed over to Shambhala's principal resident, the elusive " King of the

World, " a monarch known by many mystics in the East but only by a handful of

occultists in the West. In regards to its identity in the Holy Grail legends,

the Chintamani Stone appears to be synonymous with the " Stone of Heaven, " the

Holy Grail manifestation mentioned by Wolfram von Eschenbach in his famous Grail

rendition known as Parzival, which is regarded by most Grail scholars to be the

most complete and authoritative of the Grail legends.

> >

> > The Chintamani Stone certainly fits the profile of Eschenbach's enigmatic

Stone of Heaven because, like its literary counterpart, the Treasure of the

World is said to possess both the power to make a human immortal, as well as to

have come to Earth from " Heaven " (Sirius), a truth that is supposedly engraved

upon it as Sanscrit letters that Roerich once translated as,

> >

> > " Through the Stars I come. I bring the chalice (Grail) covered with the

shield. "

> >

> > Like Eschenbach's stone the Chintamani Stone is, apparently, also green in

color, since Roerich is on record as also stating that the Chintamani Stone is

similar in appearance to a species of meteorite known as Moldavite, which is

dark green in color. If the Chintamani Stone is indeed Eschenbach's Stone of

Heaven could it also be the original Philosophers Stone, which legends assert

could turn a base metal into gold and a human into an immortal deity? Could it

be the original Holy Grail, the one that was later emulated by all Holy Grails,

including the Cup of Christ and the wood of the True Cross?

> >

> > With so much evidence in its support of its power and existence, it does

indeed appear that the study of the Chintamani Stone should warrant special

consideration in any contemporary Holy Grail research.

> >

> > Thanks !!!! Would loved to know comments

> >

>

May 6, 2009

dear balaji

from your mail it seems you have done and are a doing lot of research in the

field of medicine too.

recently i understood that kali haldi (black turmeric) which is very rare and

very less in quantity available, is best used for medicinal purposes to cure

AIDS/HIV. one kali haldi grower approached me to make this available and please

advise if this kali haldi is indeed a cure for AIDS.

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi wrote:

>

> Dear Sir

> Frank and Honestly, I do not give a 2 bits to the beliefs supposed to be

aspired benefits. But for difficult intangible resolutions in my work, I would

like to toy this 330 gram (approx) tumbled stone in my hands and sort of

rolling, while sitting (after sunset) in the roof top garden of the condo.

>

> I have seems to arrived at decisions, mostly irrational at first evaluation,

but practical solutions, however, I can't attribute to this stone, as it may be

my life long experience, too.

>

> Of the multitudes, after the first sucessful but almost lunatic idea then

(1989), when we run a screen on all the plant extracts stored in freezers from

the research of March of Ides (from anti polio research in 1953)for then new

GRID ( Gay related Infectious Diease) now called Hiv/Aids, I was screen again

and again on west african/Malaysian tropical tree fruit extract, and wondering

what was the component that eliminates all the Grid virus (1, 2, and 3and its

variables).

> But unable to recognise the component, i was just playing & toying with this

stone (and 8 other stony materials) that came to USA, as something I should keep

as part of the old Trust of 1842 registered in London (Wodeyar Trust 1842) for

safe keeping with me.

>

> I was not least interested but was toying this new addition as I have many

other additions thru out my travels since 16 years old (1967)

>

> It just appeared to me to say, there is a protease (component) that does the

work of elimination, but its actually a lunatic suggestion, and would be (it

was) very hilarious musing to say so, to others. as no protease was ever

recorded in any research prior, to act as an inhibitor of any virus.

>

> I did say so, without any proof, or background elaboration.

> I was asked, " Are You sure you know what you saying??? "

> Being tired of sleepless nites and also embrassed, and being unable to back

out, which would affect my credibilities in future.

> All I said " lets check it out !!! " " "

>

> The rest is history, as synthetic protease are manufactured as Protease as

inhinitors in HIV/AIDS Cocktail drugs, which now prolong (since 1997) lives of

infected patients, to " mean 10 years " , even in terminal stages of AIDS, when

death is couple of weeks or months away.

> As I have wrote maybe its my experiences and knowledge or may be the stone (to

be the stone, its fallacy to me) ...

>

> There were others similar unsubstianted ravings of lunacies, is what later

become Tamiflu, for bird flu, and again was toying this stone,in 1999 when HK

was hit first time, and remembered long ago(1971) in Kovalum Beach, kerala,

while drinking toddy with an old keralaee, he mentioned about why the normal

drinking water in kerala, was added with cumin and star anise spices, in holding

water containers in every house.And blah and blah so on,

>

> Similar, today the true starting material of tamiflu is Star Anise, but

synthesized partly by humans, to stop/discourge you or any one from using real

star-anise, as remedy for bird flu.

>

> For all other experiences, I can't say much as all things good are always

there.

>

> What I load is my property held on behalf of the family trust, but there seems

to 14 more held by different persons (my generation) with the wodeyar namesake,

but mostly, they are very pious about this stone and the cobrastone of yellow

semi-transparent chlorophane ( small round pearl like / ball like pea size ( and

not flat round as a circle, thats shown in pga web site, but lights are all same

as greenish with the yellowish tinto or yellowish faint outline (of the

chlorophane) in the center of the greenish glow) that radiates at night

>

> Cheers

> (E & O acceptable).

>

> sacred-objects , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bala Sanyogi

> > Greetings

> >

> > Do you own this stone? If yes, then let us know how do you feel after having

it in your custody? Or how does this work to leave its effect? What is your

experience about this stone?

> >

> > With regards

> > Sushma

> >

> > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Album fotos in this group's foto upload album

> > >

sacred-objects/photos/album/734223410/pic/list?mod\

e=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & dir=asc

> > >

> > > The Chintamani Stone and Eye of Ray aka Lumen Ab Varum Connection?

> > >

> > > I was watching my documentaries, reading some old books, like I have been

for the past few years in the evening and I came across an interesting idea!

> > >

> > > Has anyone heard about the Chintamani Stone? The story behind it seems

very similar to the story we've received about the Lumen Ab Verum!

> > >

> > > With the current massive outpouring of information regarding the fabled

Holy Grail (or Grails) it is impossible to ignore what may be the very first

Holy Grail on Earth, the Chintamani Stone, the " Treasure of the World. "

> > >

> > > Between 1923-1928 this stone, which first manifested on Earth many

thousands of years before the Cup of Christ, was taken by the great Russian

artist and mystic Nicholas Roerich into the heartland of the Far East in order

to reunite it with the mother stone it had been separated from, a massive jewel

that resided in Shambhala, the Land of the Immortals.

> > >

> > > This Chintamani Stone, which is of extra-terrestrial origin, had

supposedly been brought to Earth by emissaries from a planet orbiting the star

Sirius and then handed over to Shambhala's principal resident, the elusive " King

of the World, " a monarch known by many mystics in the East but only by a handful

of occultists in the West. In regards to its identity in the Holy Grail legends,

the Chintamani Stone appears to be synonymous with the " Stone of Heaven, " the

Holy Grail manifestation mentioned by Wolfram von Eschenbach in his famous Grail

rendition known as Parzival, which is regarded by most Grail scholars to be the

most complete and authoritative of the Grail legends.

> > >

> > > The Chintamani Stone certainly fits the profile of Eschenbach's enigmatic

Stone of Heaven because, like its literary counterpart, the Treasure of the

World is said to possess both the power to make a human immortal, as well as to

have come to Earth from " Heaven " (Sirius), a truth that is supposedly engraved

upon it as Sanscrit letters that Roerich once translated as,

> > >

> > > " Through the Stars I come. I bring the chalice (Grail) covered with the

shield. "

> > >

> > > Like Eschenbach's stone the Chintamani Stone is, apparently, also green in

color, since Roerich is on record as also stating that the Chintamani Stone is

similar in appearance to a species of meteorite known as Moldavite, which is

dark green in color. If the Chintamani Stone is indeed Eschenbach's Stone of

Heaven could it also be the original Philosophers Stone, which legends assert

could turn a base metal into gold and a human into an immortal deity? Could it

be the original Holy Grail, the one that was later emulated by all Holy Grails,

including the Cup of Christ and the wood of the True Cross?

> > >

> > > With so much evidence in its support of its power and existence, it does

indeed appear that the study of the Chintamani Stone should warrant special

consideration in any contemporary Holy Grail research.

> > >

> > > Thanks !!!! Would loved to know comments

> > >

> >

>

May 6, 2009

Dear sir

There seems to be many Cures for HIV/AIDS, but with the current lobby of all the

Drug Companies / FDA, there is none (no Cure) , only Management of these

Diease....

With the cocktail drugs, say a person on prescription for 3 years (365 X 3 X 2

daily), there is no viral loads that can be quantifiable AT ALL, in that

particular patient.

But, according to current treatment regime, there is those Anti-HIV anti-bodies

present in the assay results. That person is considered as HIV POSTIVE.(HIV

POSTIVE FOREVER)

These Anti-Bodies presence are considered as Infection of HIV/AIDS whichever

stage, OR WHATEVER THE VIRAL LOAD counts and with a Very High T-Cells Presence

and T-Cell Counts.

These (i.e Viral load count Neglible (un-quantifiable count at all of a even a

single Virus) and T-Cell count as high as any Healthy HIV Negative person

(non-infected person) But The Hiv Anti-Bodies are the

consideration of HIV infection.

Anti-Bodies are body's immune response to any viral,or any micro-organism

infection, as far as HIV is concerned, a presence of HIV Anti-bodies, if

assayed/test and found presence is Considered as HIV Infection, and thats

forever....

The Drug management must be last forever, entire remaining lifetime, regardless

of Zero viral load and slightly Higher than, or at par with,a normal T-Cells

load of a healthy non-HIV person.

The basis is HIV anti-bodies present, of this common viral that co-existed with

humans, as HTLVV 3 (a simple cancer proto virus that present(mutual co-existed)

in most humans, but mutates according to many factors like genetic, environments

etc, geographical etc but invented into HIV virus.

You need to read " THE INVENTED VIRUS " the once orthodox science researcher, and

his growing vocal group, whom turn against the corruption of Drug companies,

Drug Lobbyists in Congress and Senate and US FDA/US CDC, on the manufacturing

royalities ($$$$ involved) of the Assays for CDC (Center of Communicable

Dieases, Atlanta, Georgia). Are these Government bodies making the money, no the

individuals/officials within with their royalties contracts, and the patents of

the cocktails,etc.

So instead of looking for Cure, which is useless to meet the drug discovery

regime, with Kali Haldi.

The best money making scope is to invent, a Swine Fever Flu assay, and related

drug management for life time, based on the immune system's response

-Anti-Bodies to SFF and Swine Flu Viral genetic makeup, that cross-mutated from

a animal to human, to human to human transmission.

Discover the gene script where it turns from animal to human, and then human to

human cross infection.

Or with Chicken pox, or other influenza viral, that we very commonly being

afflicted with through out our lives...

As we with be A " Chicken pox postive " forever, or other Flu postives forever,

based on the anti-bodies present from 1 infection when we are kids or in early

adulthood to show up forever.

So sir, with Kali Haldi, even if it cures and remove the HIV/AIDS Viral load and

increase the T-Cells that make our immune system strong, but the HIV anti-bodies

counts.

I did research on the Indian Kali-Haldi, both Forest wild crafted (thats

harvesting the wild grown varieties and the plantation cultivated, to start a

Guerilla drug management regime for cocktail users, to wean off the cocktail, if

their Viral load is stable more than 3 to 4 years with neglible and

un-quantitifable counts , and the T cells stable count as any healthy non HIV

persons.

( to us the Anti-Cocktail Guerillas, anti-invented virus/anti-forever cocktail

Adherents, who are on both sides of the fences as money is good from both sides.

The radicalism will be or may be turned to be FDA accepted Drug regime in future

as more vocals join in, or maybe after 2012, when the drug companies will go the

way the US Banks are going in today-stress tests )

But from India, its very difficult to get the forest varieties, and so-called

forest varieties are usually adulterated (as forest var.) are cultivated

varieties with full of pesticides (DTT etc) and synthetic Fertilizers.

The first basic ID is forest var. are badly mangled poor looking roots with high

quality components, while the Cultivated var. are well grown well developed

roots but very poor quality components and full of synthetic pesticides and

fertilizers.

So arrangement is made to forest cultivated as organic Kali Haldi or Kunyan

Hitam, black tumeric in Indonesia and South Thailand, as Tea powder with 1 %

honey freezed dried powder and 0.15 % of an fruit extract ( the fruit extracted

oil is used in Tantra, and indonesian/thai black ceremonies as lamp oil,( the

original herb extracted protease inhibitor, before the protease was synthesized

and become man-made)) for instant tea.

These powdered tea factories in Semerong Java and Nakong si Tammarat Siam, is

FDA food approved facilities.

Its taste as ginger tumeric instant tea, and exported as food supplements to US

and the trend it seems growing among all cocktail users in South America.

Your country announce in 2005, that cocktails are subsidized and prescribed

free, so this tea has a potential in India, as HIV postives may be viral load

negative and T-Cell are stable after 3-4 years.

As the cocktails will affect the liver, after prolong multi-ten or multi-5 years

of annual use of twice a day.

So there is no CURE for HIV/AIDS,

Thanks

E & O accepted

sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004

wrote:

>

> dear balaji

>

> from your mail it seems you have done and are a doing lot of research in the

field of medicine too.

>

> recently i understood that kali haldi (black turmeric) which is very rare and

very less in quantity available, is best used for medicinal purposes to cure

AIDS/HIV. one kali haldi grower approached me to make this available and please

advise if this kali haldi is indeed a cure for AIDS.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir

> > Frank and Honestly, I do not give a 2 bits to the beliefs supposed to be

aspired benefits. But for difficult intangible resolutions in my work, I would

like to toy this 330 gram (approx) tumbled stone in my hands and sort of

rolling, while sitting (after sunset) in the roof top garden of the condo.

> >

> > I have seems to arrived at decisions, mostly irrational at first evaluation,

but practical solutions, however, I can't attribute to this stone, as it may be

my life long experience, too.

> >

> > Of the multitudes, after the first sucessful but almost lunatic idea then

(1989), when we run a screen on all the plant extracts stored in freezers from

the research of March of Ides (from anti polio research in 1953)for then new

GRID ( Gay related Infectious Diease) now called Hiv/Aids, I was screen again

and again on west african/Malaysian tropical tree fruit extract, and wondering

what was the component that eliminates all the Grid virus (1, 2, and 3and its

variables).

> > But unable to recognise the component, i was just playing & toying with this

stone (and 8 other stony materials) that came to USA, as something I should keep

as part of the old Trust of 1842 registered in London (Wodeyar Trust 1842) for

safe keeping with me.

> >

> > I was not least interested but was toying this new addition as I have many

other additions thru out my travels since 16 years old (1967)

> >

> > It just appeared to me to say, there is a protease (component) that does the

work of elimination, but its actually a lunatic suggestion, and would be (it

was) very hilarious musing to say so, to others. as no protease was ever

recorded in any research prior, to act as an inhibitor of any virus.

> >

> > I did say so, without any proof, or background elaboration.

> > I was asked, " Are You sure you know what you saying??? "

> > Being tired of sleepless nites and also embrassed, and being unable to back

out, which would affect my credibilities in future.

> > All I said " lets check it out !!! " " "

> >

> > The rest is history, as synthetic protease are manufactured as Protease as

inhinitors in HIV/AIDS Cocktail drugs, which now prolong (since 1997) lives of

infected patients, to " mean 10 years " , even in terminal stages of AIDS, when

death is couple of weeks or months away.

> > As I have wrote maybe its my experiences and knowledge or may be the stone

(to be the stone, its fallacy to me) ...

> >

> > There were others similar unsubstianted ravings of lunacies, is what later

become Tamiflu, for bird flu, and again was toying this stone,in 1999 when HK

was hit first time, and remembered long ago(1971) in Kovalum Beach, kerala,

while drinking toddy with an old keralaee, he mentioned about why the normal

drinking water in kerala, was added with cumin and star anise spices, in holding

water containers in every house.And blah and blah so on,

> >

> > Similar, today the true starting material of tamiflu is Star Anise, but

synthesized partly by humans, to stop/discourge you or any one from using real

star-anise, as remedy for bird flu.

> >

> > For all other experiences, I can't say much as all things good are always

there.

> >

> > What I load is my property held on behalf of the family trust, but there

seems to 14 more held by different persons (my generation) with the wodeyar

namesake, but mostly, they are very pious about this stone and the cobrastone of

yellow semi-transparent chlorophane ( small round pearl like / ball like pea

size ( and not flat round as a circle, thats shown in pga web site, but lights

are all same as greenish with the yellowish tinto or yellowish faint outline

(of the chlorophane) in the center of the greenish glow) that radiates at night

> >

> > Cheers

> > (E & O acceptable).

> >

> > sacred-objects , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bala Sanyogi

> > > Greetings

> > >

> > > Do you own this stone? If yes, then let us know how do you feel after

having it in your custody? Or how does this work to leave its effect? What is

your experience about this stone?

> > >

> > > With regards

> > > Sushma

> > >

> > > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Album fotos in this group's foto upload album

> > > >

sacred-objects/photos/album/734223410/pic/list?mod\

e=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & dir=asc

> > > >

> > > > The Chintamani Stone and Eye of Ray aka Lumen Ab Varum Connection?

> > > >

> > > > I was watching my documentaries, reading some old books, like I have

been for the past few years in the evening and I came across an interesting

idea!

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone heard about the Chintamani Stone? The story behind it seems

very similar to the story we've received about the Lumen Ab Verum!

> > > >

> > > > With the current massive outpouring of information regarding the fabled

Holy Grail (or Grails) it is impossible to ignore what may be the very first

Holy Grail on Earth, the Chintamani Stone, the " Treasure of the World. "

> > > >

> > > > Between 1923-1928 this stone, which first manifested on Earth many

thousands of years before the Cup of Christ, was taken by the great Russian

artist and mystic Nicholas Roerich into the heartland of the Far East in order

to reunite it with the mother stone it had been separated from, a massive jewel

that resided in Shambhala, the Land of the Immortals.

> > > >

> > > > This Chintamani Stone, which is of extra-terrestrial origin, had

supposedly been brought to Earth by emissaries from a planet orbiting the star

Sirius and then handed over to Shambhala's principal resident, the elusive " King

of the World, " a monarch known by many mystics in the East but only by a handful

of occultists in the West. In regards to its identity in the Holy Grail legends,

the Chintamani Stone appears to be synonymous with the " Stone of Heaven, " the

Holy Grail manifestation mentioned by Wolfram von Eschenbach in his famous Grail

rendition known as Parzival, which is regarded by most Grail scholars to be the

most complete and authoritative of the Grail legends.

> > > >

> > > > The Chintamani Stone certainly fits the profile of Eschenbach's

enigmatic Stone of Heaven because, like its literary counterpart, the Treasure

of the World is said to possess both the power to make a human immortal, as well

as to have come to Earth from " Heaven " (Sirius), a truth that is supposedly

engraved upon it as Sanscrit letters that Roerich once translated as,

> > > >

> > > > " Through the Stars I come. I bring the chalice (Grail) covered with the

shield. "

> > > >

> > > > Like Eschenbach's stone the Chintamani Stone is, apparently, also green

in color, since Roerich is on record as also stating that the Chintamani Stone

is similar in appearance to a species of meteorite known as Moldavite, which is

dark green in color. If the Chintamani Stone is indeed Eschenbach's Stone of

Heaven could it also be the original Philosophers Stone, which legends assert

could turn a base metal into gold and a human into an immortal deity? Could it

be the original Holy Grail, the one that was later emulated by all Holy Grails,

including the Cup of Christ and the wood of the True Cross?

> > > >

> > > > With so much evidence in its support of its power and existence, it does

indeed appear that the study of the Chintamani Stone should warrant special

consideration in any contemporary Holy Grail research.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks !!!! Would loved to know comments

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 7, 2009

Dear Bala Songyi

Greetings

I was thinking that Chintaamani stone does some miracles to fulfill wishes as

there are some other objects in our Hindoo religion, such as Kalp Vriksh, or

Kaamdhenu, etc.

Do you know, by the way, what are the characteristics of Chintaamani stone? I

mean what for it is famous? Why people want to acquire it? etc.

As about Paaras stone, I know that it is famous for making gold. Whatever thing

it touches it converts into gold - isn't it?