Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 The Personal Pendant Size Square Kailash Dhana Tantra Yantra foto, said to be in Hitler's personal effect and was also in East Berlin Museum, but not on display, and when Soviet Russian Forces left in late 1980s, the entire contents were transported to Russia, legally, foto is loaded at Group's Album sacred-objects/photos/album/474625035/pic/65668223\ 1/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Please refer to following post by relics_antiques before it may get deleted, I have also reproduced the contents below. I am interested in only getting facts, nothing else. I have no interest in fake or stolen artifacts. I am not interested whether research students get thier A++ from stolen unkown artifacts. > > > http://messages./Hobbies_%26_Crafts/Collecting/threadview?m=tm & bn=14120\ 489%23doyouhavewhatheslookingfor & tid=1208 & mid=1549 & tof=8 & rt=2 & frt=2 & off=1 > > " It is unfortunate that none of you know the significance of the terma called the Kailash Dhanaraksha Yantra Talisman. I am a student of Dakini and Pali manuscripts at the Centre for Tibetan Studies, and have heard of some of these termas that were hidden by Guru Rinpoche. The Kailash dhanaraksha Yantra was first created by Padmasambhava. First, who was Padmasambhava? > > Known as The Lotus Born, he belonged to a monarchic Brahmin family. He is said to have transmitted Tantric Buddhism to Bhutan and Tibet in the 8th century. In Tibet he is better known as Guru Rinpoche ( " Precious Master " ) or Lopon Rinpoche, and followers of the Nyingma school regard him as the second Buddha. He is further considered an avatar of Buddha Amitabha and traditionally respected as " the second Buddha " . He is also referred to as Orgyen Guru , Padmakara and Saroruha Vajra. He was found by the Brahmin family floating in Lake Dhanakosha, in the kingdom of Uddiyana, which is actually the Swat Valley of ancient India in present-day Pakistan where today the Taliban have made a stronghold. > > In Bhutan he created the famous Paro Taktsang or " Tiger's Nest " monastery built on a sheer cliff wall about 500m above the floor of Paro valley. > > Padmasambhava also hid a number of religious treasures or termas in lakes, caves, fields and forests of the Himalayan region to be found and interpreted by future tertöns or " spiritual treasure-finders " . According to Tibetan tradition, the Bardo Thodol (commonly referred to as the Tibetan Book of the Dead) was among these hidden treasures, subsequently discovered by a Tibetan terton, Karma Lingpa. The Kailash Dhanaraksha Yantra, the circular talisman terma was first found by Nyangral Nyima Oser, a terton monk at Paro Taktshang strung around a tiger's neck. It brought unaccountable wealth and prestige to the monastery and the kingdom. In Tibetan, a Tertöns is one who finds a terma. > > Padmasambhava often meditated on the slope of the Kailash mountain. Of incredible geomantic power Kailash (Sanskrit) or Kang Rinpoche (Tibetan) marks the center of the Earth for Buddhists, Hindus, Jains and Bon. To Buddhists it is the resting place of Demchok, the wrathful manifestation of Buddha Sakyamuni. To Hindus it is the dwelling place of Shiva, the destroyer and according to the Sanskrit tradition of Vishnu Purana it is a representation of Mount Meru, the cosmic mountain at the center of the universe. It is the place where the founder of Bon descended to Earth and where the founder of the Jain faith was spiritually awakened. > > Padmasambhava was of unnaturally advanced age when he led the greatest religious seers of the time to perform the great yagna on the Kailash mountain. Manuscripts related to the creation of the round brass plaque called the Kailash Dhanaraksha Yantra Talisman was originally written in Dakini script. Recently some manuscripts were found hidden in the roof of the Beijing Palace in the Forbidden city by restorers. It is still not understood what these Tibetan texts were doing hidden beneath the roof of a palace in China. > > References to this great yagna can also be found in Pali and other ancient languages. All declare the Kailash Dhanaraksha Yantra as a round brass talisman with a loop to hang it around one's neck as a locket. It has no owner and leaves a person's possession at its own free will. When it departs, it always leaves the last possessor eternally wealthy both in self-realization and material wealth. > > I would suggest to everyone to read available English translations of the Bardo Thodol, about tertöns, about terma, about Bon and about Padmasambhava himself to understand the true value and truth about this 1200 year old relic. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Hi, I have attached the photos of pendant size square Kailash Dhana Tantra Yantra which is much older than what Hitler had. Also I remember that Bala had told me that as per writing on plaque of large artifcat it was created in 1863 BCE/BE (Before Christian Era/Before Era) and as per his calculation BCE 1863 is equal to 9th century, I could not workout this equation?, or he wanted to say 19th century. God knows which metal fillings were tested and whether they were from which product. The test has no meaning unless the actual product is taken to tester and he himself takes the metal fillings for test. Also I am not sure if Russia is not advanced enough to have any kind of c13/c14 assay tests. I can produce much older square pendants of personal Kailsh talisman. See the patina in photos posted at links below. The square talisman in photographs is in my personal collection, this is also made up of brass with meteoric metals. sacred-objects/photos/album/410807506/pic/10431101\ 58/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=21 & count=20 & dir=asc sacred-objects/photos/album/410807506/pic/18028469\ 82/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=21 & count=20 & dir=asc sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi wrote: > > The Personal Pendant Size Square Kailash Dhana Tantra Yantra foto, said to be in Hitler's personal effect and was also in East Berlin Museum, but not on display, and when Soviet Russian Forces left in late 1980s, the entire contents were transported to Russia, legally, foto is loaded at Group's Album > > sacred-objects/photos/album/474625035/pic/65668223\ 1/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc > > sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Please refer to following post by relics_antiques before it may get deleted, I have also reproduced the contents below. I am interested in only getting facts, nothing else. I have no interest in fake or stolen artifacts. I am not interested whether research students get thier A++ from stolen unkown artifacts. > > > > > > http://messages./Hobbies_%26_Crafts/Collecting/threadview?m=tm & bn=14120\ 489%23doyouhavewhatheslookingfor & tid=1208 & mid=1549 & tof=8 & rt=2 & frt=2 & off=1 > > > > " It is unfortunate that none of you know the significance of the terma called the Kailash Dhanaraksha Yantra Talisman. I am a student of Dakini and Pali manuscripts at the Centre for Tibetan Studies, and have heard of some of these termas that were hidden by Guru Rinpoche. The Kailash dhanaraksha Yantra was first created by Padmasambhava. First, who was Padmasambhava? > > > > Known as The Lotus Born, he belonged to a monarchic Brahmin family. He is said to have transmitted Tantric Buddhism to Bhutan and Tibet in the 8th century. In Tibet he is better known as Guru Rinpoche ( " Precious Master " ) or Lopon Rinpoche, and followers of the Nyingma school regard him as the second Buddha. He is further considered an avatar of Buddha Amitabha and traditionally respected as " the second Buddha " . He is also referred to as Orgyen Guru , Padmakara and Saroruha Vajra. He was found by the Brahmin family floating in Lake Dhanakosha, in the kingdom of Uddiyana, which is actually the Swat Valley of ancient India in present-day Pakistan where today the Taliban have made a stronghold. > > > > In Bhutan he created the famous Paro Taktsang or " Tiger's Nest " monastery built on a sheer cliff wall about 500m above the floor of Paro valley. > > > > Padmasambhava also hid a number of religious treasures or termas in lakes, caves, fields and forests of the Himalayan region to be found and interpreted by future tertöns or " spiritual treasure-finders " . According to Tibetan tradition, the Bardo Thodol (commonly referred to as the Tibetan Book of the Dead) was among these hidden treasures, subsequently discovered by a Tibetan terton, Karma Lingpa. The Kailash Dhanaraksha Yantra, the circular talisman terma was first found by Nyangral Nyima Oser, a terton monk at Paro Taktshang strung around a tiger's neck. It brought unaccountable wealth and prestige to the monastery and the kingdom. In Tibetan, a Tertöns is one who finds a terma. > > > > Padmasambhava often meditated on the slope of the Kailash mountain. Of incredible geomantic power Kailash (Sanskrit) or Kang Rinpoche (Tibetan) marks the center of the Earth for Buddhists, Hindus, Jains and Bon. To Buddhists it is the resting place of Demchok, the wrathful manifestation of Buddha Sakyamuni. To Hindus it is the dwelling place of Shiva, the destroyer and according to the Sanskrit tradition of Vishnu Purana it is a representation of Mount Meru, the cosmic mountain at the center of the universe. It is the place where the founder of Bon descended to Earth and where the founder of the Jain faith was spiritually awakened. > > > > Padmasambhava was of unnaturally advanced age when he led the greatest religious seers of the time to perform the great yagna on the Kailash mountain. Manuscripts related to the creation of the round brass plaque called the Kailash Dhanaraksha Yantra Talisman was originally written in Dakini script. Recently some manuscripts were found hidden in the roof of the Beijing Palace in the Forbidden city by restorers. It is still not understood what these Tibetan texts were doing hidden beneath the roof of a palace in China. > > > > References to this great yagna can also be found in Pali and other ancient languages. All declare the Kailash Dhanaraksha Yantra as a round brass talisman with a loop to hang it around one's neck as a locket. It has no owner and leaves a person's possession at its own free will. When it departs, it always leaves the last possessor eternally wealthy both in self-realization and material wealth. > > > > I would suggest to everyone to read available English translations of the Bardo Thodol, about tertöns, about terma, about Bon and about Padmasambhava himself to understand the true value and truth about this 1200 year old relic. " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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