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Superb obserations on Swamiji

and

wonderful clarification on Adi Shankaraachaarya's teachings in the light of

Bhagawan Sri Ramana Maharshi!

 

Sri Sri Yukteshwar Giri (the immediate Preceptor of Sri Sri Paramahamsa

Yogaanandaa) , in His " commentary on the 'Kaivalya Darsanam' " ( " Holy Science " ),

says that 'Man' is 'frugivorous' (eater of fruits) and He makes a

differentiation between 'herbivorous' (eater of plants) and 'frugivorous'.

 

I can't remember the details.

 

 

Swaminathan Venkataraman <nachiketas

ramakrishna <ramakrishna >

Tuesday, July 27, 1999 7:06 PM

[ramakrishna]

 

 

> " Swaminathan Venkataraman " <nachiketas

>

>Dear fellow sadhakas

>

>Meat Eating

>-----------

>I am joining this subject very late (I have not read mails regularly in the

>past few days) but I think I want to say one thing about the discussion on

>meat eating, although on the specific issue of animal sacrifices and their

>origin/purpose, I am not very knowledgeable on the history of ancient Indian

>religious rites. A medical friend of mine told me a very interesting thing

>about why he believes that nature and evolution intended man to be a

>vegetarian rather than a meat eater. Man's digestive system, right from the

>teeth to the intestines, is almost identical to that of herbivores animals

>like deer and cows. Note the absence of the sharp canine teeth, the presence

>of flat molar teeth, the long and higly coiled small intestine and even the

>presence of the appendix, which is very important for the herbivores

>animals.

>

>Personally, I also take the authority of the saint Pathanjali, who in his

>Yoga Sutras, advises spiritual asirants to avoid meat eating as it gives

>more strength to passions. It has been commented upon in this list that

>Swami Vivekananda was also a meat eater right from his childhood. However,

>we must be very careful and avoid such comparisons.

>

>If one can just close his eyes and observe a light between the eyebrows, If

>one can just glance at a page and absorb its entire contents, If one can

>memorize one volume of encyclopaedia a day, If one can get 5000 people to

>give you a standing ovation for 3 minutes by just addressing them as sisters

>and brothers, If one can stand still on a stool when some cowboys fire

>bullets in your direction, If one can pick up a gun for the first time in

>your life and fire twelve shells in rapid successions, If one can do all

>these or even one of these, then by all means such restirctions do not apply

>to you. Swamiji's body was just working out its sanchita karma in

>meat-eating and smoking and he himself was the entirely detached spirit.

>

>Maya and Illusion

>-----------------

>Are we not commiting a mistake by saying that the older understanding of

>Maya is as illusion? Sri Ramana Maharshi once had this to say about Maya: "

>Sri Shankara has been wrongly criticised for his philosophy of maya.

>Shankara made made 3 statements - Brahman is the truth, the Universe is

>false, Brahman is the universe. He did not stop with the first two. The

>third statement explains the first two. If the world is seen as having an

>independent existence apart from Brahman then it is an illusion "

>

>This is the meaning of the Nataraja, Shive as the cosmic dancer in the

>Chidambaram temple in India. The dancer is the lord and the dance is the

>creation, the universe. The dance is a part of the lord but has no

>independent existence apart from the lord.

>

>pranams

>

>Swami

>

>------

>Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah

>Vivekananda Centre London

>http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/

>

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> Sumita Bidaye <Sumita_Bidaye

> hindu <hindu

> 27 September 1999 15:22

> information request

>

>

> >Greetings!

> >

> >First of all, I just wanted to congratulate you on the work you are

> doing!

> > The web site is so helpful.

> >My name is Sumita, I live in Toronto and teach in schools. One of my

> >coworkers requested a brief summary of the hindu creation story. Do you

> >have any such resource at easy access? If so, can you please forward it

> >to me.

> >

> >I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks,

> >Sumita

> >

> >

[Madhava Replies:]

 

Dear Ms. Sumita:

 

Hari Om!

 

Since your friend seem to be more interested in the " brief " summary,

I would like to present a Hymn (Sukta) called " nAsadiya " , that I have with

me, which is from our Rig-Veda. It is a very cryptic message on the

Creation Theory. Please let me know if your friend need any further

clarifications.

 

By the way, there are other creation theories in our mythology

(puranas) and of course they sound more like Genesis. I choose this hymn

because it is the most ancient thought on creation. All the best to you.

 

Best Regards,

Madhava

 

 

From the Rig-Veda

 

10.129 Creation Hymn (Nasadiya)

 

This short hymn, though linguistically simple (with the exception

of one or two troublesome nouns), is conceptually extremely

provocative

and has, indeed, provoked hundreds of complex commentaries among

Indian

theologians and Western scholars. In many ways, it is meant to

puzzle

and challenge, to raise unanswerable questions, to pile up

paradoxes.

 

****

 

There was neither non-existence nor existence then; there was

neither

the realm of space nor the sky which is beyond. What stirred? Where?

 

In whose protection? Was there water, bottomlessly deep?

 

There was neither death nor immortality then. There was no

distinguishing

sign of night nor of day. That one breathed, windless, by its own

impulse.

Other than that there was nothing beyond.

 

Darkness was hidden by darkness in the beginning; with no

distinguishing

sign, all this was water. The life force that was covered with

emptiness,

that one arose through the power of heat.

 

Desire came upon that one in the beginning; that was the first seed

of mind.

Poets seeking in their heart with wisdom found the bond of existence

 

in non-existence.

 

Their cord was extended across. Was there below? Was there above?

There

were seed-placers; there were powers. There was impulse beneath;

there

was giving-forth above.

 

Who really knows? Who will here proclaim it? Whence was it produced?

Whence

is this creation? The gods came afterwards, with the creation of

this

universe. Who then knows whence it has arisen?

 

Whence this creation has arisen perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps

it

did not the one who looks down on it, in the highest heaven, only he

knows

or perhaps he does not know.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mr.Amit,

 

Well I have forwarded your mail to Mrs.Janaki Srinivasan. She is the one dealing

with it and would do the needful. In future, you could talk to her in

Samratchana. Thanks. Have a nice day.

 

Regards,

Venky.

 

 

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>

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Sri Ramakrishna and Swami Vivekananda Try this adress.vikas akalwadi <vikas_akalwadi wrote:

dear group members,namaste.I have been requested to find out if there is anymaterial/review on Swamiji's poems available. He islooking for critical review of swamiji's poems,influence of earlier poets on him and the influence ofswamiji on subsequent poets.If any of you are aware of such material availableeither on internet or in print media, please let meknow. I will pass on the same to the person.Thanks in advance.regards,Vikas _______________________________Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today!http://vote.Sri Ramakrishnaya NamahVivekananda Centre Londonhttp://www.vivekananda.co.uk

 

 

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Sir

if you find any such material please let me know about it.This facet of Swamiji came to me also as a surprise.

mamta shah

 

-

mihaela danailova

Ramakrishna

Friday, October 15, 2004 8:29 PM

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Sri Ramakrishna and Swami Vivekananda Try this adress.vikas akalwadi <vikas_akalwadi wrote: dear group members,namaste.I have been requested to find out if there is anymaterial/review on Swamiji's poems available. He islooking for critical review of swamiji's poems,influence of earlier poets on him and the influence ofswamiji on subsequent poets.If any of you are aware of such material availableeither on internet or in print media, please let meknow. I will pass on the same to the person.Thanks in advance.regards,Vikas _______________________________Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today!http://vote.Sri Ramakrishnaya NamahVivekananda Centre Londonhttp://www.vivekananda.co.uk

 

 

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Please,forgive my lack of knowlege.

Could You tell me something more about Diwalli's origin and meaning?

mihaela

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HI

there is nothing like asking sorry for these things

A person of different culture may not know many things about other's

Diwali also called deepavali is a combination of two words which means " row

of earthern pot lamps " a widely celebrated festival all over INDIA

especially north India

It is celebrated to commemorate return of " Lord Shri Raama " to his hometown

" Ayodhya " after the killing of Demon " Raavana "

The people of Ayodhya welcomed Him by burning " Ghee Lamps "

Festival of Diwali is acually celebrated over a span of 5 days(some places

6 days)

First day is " Dhanteras " on thirteenth day of lunar months of " Karthik "

dark side.......people bye some ornaments, utensils on this day

Second Day is " Narak Chaudas " on fourteenth day ...early morning oil bath

and showing lamps to forefathers is there.....Bengalis worship " Goddess

Kaali " on this night

Third Day is " Deepawali " on " Amavasya " new moon day...people worship

" Goddess Laxmi " Goddess of Fortune...

Fourth Day is devoted to worship of " Cows " ... peasants decorate and worship

their cattles

Fifth Day is " Bhaiya Dooj " sisters will put " tilak " on forehead of theirs

brothers and pray for their long life and everlasting tie

Main thing is that Diwali is celebrated with a view that " Good Always wins

over Evil "

It is also an occassion for get together,, shopping,,etc etc

 

This group is formed with the intension of discussing life, gospels and

others things related to Lord Shri Ramakrishna and Vivekananda and Advaita

theory, I believe

Still majority fo INDIA believes in duality ....Gods and Goddesses

,,festivals this plays a major role in their life

 

So I am happy to give you some information

Anything more you want to know ,,you are welcome

 

devashish

 

 

 

Please,forgive my lack of knowlege.

Could You tell me something more about Diwalli's origin and meaning?

mihaela

 

 

[Guest guest]

hi,you must have had some reason to say that .

 

But don't you think that the"punishment"system is just another version of the Karma law?God is not a detective,after all!

 

When we break someone's trust,we become mistrusted-at least by one person and it becomes even more complicated(in our mind)when we realize what we have done.I think that it's a kind of suffer(the punishment we've all been thaught of is actually our own mind's work).

In that aspect I've seen lots of people being 'punished' like that.Just look around at all these depressive people and the paranoya they live in;

whish you best-mihaelaTaposhri <taposhri wrote:

 

Dear All

 

When I was a kid, I was taught taught that People who do bad deeds are punished by the Lord. The Lord is watching all of us, so one should always try not to hurt others, try not to lie and try to be good.

When people break someone's trust, they eventually land up hurting the person. Isnt that bad? Isnt it something for which the Lord must punish?

But I have never seen people being punished.

Why doesnt a person realise then and there itself that he is wrong? Why do people say that time will teach him? Does that time ever come?

 

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Dear Srinivas Garu and all active memebers :

 

 

 

I would really like to thank you all for making the past few

months very informative.In this era of science and technology where

the very idea of Divine presence is been speculated as mere something

unknown rather than a genuine surrender to it (please do not

misunderstand this to be blind faith here) such useful inforamtion

about some very basic things and how important they can be is really

heart rendering.Some of us away from India and missing certain things

in different ways can again relate to ourselves in this way.

 

 

 

Thanks a lot everyone.This group is extremely inforamtive.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Deepshika

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om sai ram

'it's about appreciating the people in your life while

you have them....no matter who that person is'

---great message!!

sai ram

--- Lalita Rao <lalita9 wrote:

 

> After 21 years of marriage, my wife wanted me to

> take another woman out to

> dinner and a movie. She said, " I love you, but I

> know this other woman loves

>

> you and would love to spend some time with you. "

>

> The other woman that my wife wanted me to visit was

> my mother, who has been

> a widow for 19 years, but the demands of my work and

> my three children

> had made it possible to visit her only occasionally.

> That night I called to invite her to go out for

> dinner and a movie.

>

> " What's wrong, are you well, " she asked?

>

> My mother is the type of woman who suspects that a

> late night call or a

> surprise invitation is a sign of bad news.

>

> " I thought that it would be pleasant to spend some

> time with you, " I

> responded. " Just the two of us. "

>

> She thought about it for a moment, and then said, " I

> would like that very

> much. "

>

> That Friday after work, as I drove over to pick her

> up I was a bit nervous.

> When I arrived at her house, I noticed that she,

> too, seemed to be nervous

> about our date. She waited at the door with her coat

> on. She had curled her

> hair and was wearing the dress that she had worn to

> celebrate her last

> wedding anniversary.

>

> She smiled from a face that was as radiant as an

> angel's. " I told my friends

> that I was going to go out with my son, and they

> were impressed, " she said,

> as she got into the car. " They can't wait to hear

> about our meeting. "

>

> We went to a restaurant that, although not elegant,

> was very nice and cozy.

> My mother took my arm as if she were the First Lady.

> After we sat

> down, I had to read the menu. Her eyes could only

> read large print. Half way

> through the entries, I lifted my eyes and saw Mom

> sitting there staring at

> me. A nostalgic smile was on her lips. " It was I who

> used to have to read

> the menu when you were small, " she said. " Then it's

> time that you relax and

> let me return the favor, " I responded.

>

> During the dinner, we had an agreeable conversation-

> -nothing extraordinary

> but catching up on recent events of each other's

> life. We talked so

> much that we missed the movie.

>

> As we arrived at her house later, she said, " I'll go

> out with you again, but

> only if you let me invite you. " I agreed.

>

> " How was your dinner date? " asked my wife when I got

> home. " Very nice. Much

> more so than I could have imagined, " I answered.

>

> A few days later, my mother died of a massive heart

> attack. It happened so

> suddenly that I didn't have a chance to do anything

> for her.

>

> Some time later, I received an envelope with a copy

> of a restaurant receipt

> from the same place mother and I had dined. An

> attached note said: " I paid

> this bill in advance. I wasn't sure that I could be

> there; but nevertheless,

> I paid for two plates - one for you and the other

> for your wife.

> You will never know what that night meant for me. I

> love you, son. "

>

> At that moment, I understood the importance of

> saying in time: " I LOVE YOU "

> and to give our loved ones the time that they

> deserve. Nothing in life is

> more important than your family. Give them the time

> they deserve, because

> these things cannot be put off until " some other

> time. "

>

> Somebody said it takes about six weeks to get back

> to normal after you've

> had a baby.... somebody doesn't know that once

> you're a mother, " normal " is

> history.

>

> Somebody said you learn how to be a mother by

> instinct .... somebody never

> took a three-year-old shopping.

>

> Somebody said being a mother is boring .... somebody

> never rode in a car

> driven by a teenager with a driver's permit.

>

> Somebody said if you're a " good " mother, your child

> will " turn out

> good " ....somebody thinks a child comes with

> directions and a guarantee.

>

> Somebody said " good " mothers never raise their

> voices .... somebody never

> came out the back door just in time to see her child

> hit a golf ball through

> the neighbor's kitchen window.

>

> Somebody said you don't need an education to be a

> mother.... somebody never

> helped a fourth grader with his math.

>

> Somebody said you can't love the second child as

> much as you love the first

> .... somebody doesn't have two children.

>

> Somebody said a mother can find all the answers to

> her child-rearing

> questions in the books.... somebody never had a

> child stuff beans up his

> nose or in his ears.

>

> Somebody said the hardest part of being a mother is

> labor and delivery....

> somebody never watched her " baby " get on the bus for

> the first day of

> kindergarten .... or on a plane headed for military

> " boot camp. "

>

> Somebody said a mother can do her job with her eyes

> closed and one hand tied

> behind her back ....somebody never organized seven

> giggling Brownies

> to sell cookies.

>

> Somebody said a mother can stop worrying after her

> child gets

> married....somebody doesn't know that marriage adds

> a new son or

> daughter-in- law to a mother's heartstrings.

>

> Somebody said a mother's job is done when her last

> child leaves

> home....somebody never had grandchildren.

>

> Somebody said your mother knows you love her, so you

> don't need to tell

> her.... somebody isn't a mother.

>

> Pass this along to all the " mothers " in your life

> and to everyone who ever

> had a mother. This isn't just about being a mother;

> it's about appreciating

> the people in your life while you have them....no

> matter who that person is.

> _.___

>

>

> --

> With warm regards,

>

> Lalita

>

 

 

 

 

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" Triple Filter of truth,goodness and usefulness " --too

good!!

'sai bless u'

sai ram

--- Lalita Rao <lalita9 wrote:

 

> The following anecdote is extremely spread-worthy

> (confirming to all

> the three tests mentioned below)

>

> In ancient Greece, Socrates was reputed to hold

> knowledge in high esteem.

>

> One day an acquaintance met the great philosopher

> and said, " Do you

> know what I just heard about your friend? "

>

> " Hold on a minute, " Socrates replied.

>

> " Before telling me anything I'd like you to pass a

> little test. It's

> called the Triple Filter Test. "

>

> " Triple filter? "

>

> " That's right, " Socrates continued. " Before you talk

> to me about my

> friend, it might be a good idea to take a moment and

> filter what

> you're going to say. That's why I call it the triple

> filter test.

>

> The first filter is Truth. Have you made absolutely

> sure that what you

> are about to tell me is true? "

>

> " No, " the man said, " actually I just heard about it

> and... "

>

> " All right, " said Socrates. " So you don't really

> know if it's true or

> not. Now let's try the second filter, the filter of

> Goodness.

>

> Is what you are about to tell me about my friend

> something good? "

>

> " No, on the contrary... "

>

> " So, " Socrates continued, " you want to tell me

> something bad about

> him, but you're not certain it's true.

>

> You may still pass the test though, because there's

> one filter left:-

> The filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell

> me about my friend

> going to be useful to me? "

>

> " No, not really. "

>

> " Well, " concluded Socrates, " if what you want to

> tell me is neither

> true nor good nor even useful, why tell it to me at

> all? "

>

> This is why Socrates was a great philosopher & held

> in such high esteem.

>

> Friends, use this triple filter each time u hear

> loose talk our near &

> dear friends (and members of your workgroup, etc

> etc).

>

> " An optimist stays up until midnight to see the new

> year in. A

> pessimist stays up to make sure the old year

> leaves. "

>

> " We will open the book. Its pages are blank. We are

> going to put words

> on them ourselves. The book is called Opportunity

> and its first

> chapter is Today. "

>

> --

> With warm regards,

>

> Lalita

>

 

 

 

 

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" What goes around comes around. "

---too beautiful are the expressions!!!

'sai bless u'

sai ram

--- Lalita Rao <lalita9 wrote:

 

> His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish

> farmer. One day,

> while trying to make a living for his family, he

> heard a cry for help

> coming from a nearby bog. He dropped his tools and

> ran to the bog.

>

>

>

>

> There, mired to his waist in black muck, was a

> terrified boy,

> screaming and struggling to free himself. Farmer

> Fleming saved the lad

> from what could have been a slow and terrifying

> death.

>

>

>

>

> The next day, a fancy carriage pulled up to the

> Scotsman's sparse

> surroundings An elegantly dressed nobleman stepped

> out and introduced

> himself as the father of the boy Farmer Fleming had

> saved.

>

>

>

>

> " I want to repay you, " said the nobleman. " You saved

> my son's life. "

>

>

>

>

> " No, I can't accept payment for what I did, " the

> Scottish farmer

> replied waving off the offer. At that moment, the

> farmer's own son

> came to the door of the family hovel.

>

>

>

>

> " Is that your son? " the nobleman asked.

>

>

>

>

> " Yes, " the farmer replied proudly.

>

>

>

>

> " I'll make you a deal. Let me provide him with the

> level of education

> my own son will enjoy. If the lad is anything like

> his father, he'll

> no doubt grow to be a man we both will be proud of. "

> And that he did.

>

>

>

>

> Farmer Fleming's son attended the very best schools

> and in time,

> graduated from St. Mary's Hospital Medical School in

> London, and went

> on to become known throughout the world as the noted

> Sir Alexander

> Fleming, the discoverer of Penicillin.

>

>

>

>

> Years afterward, the same nobleman's son who was

> saved from the bog

> was stricken with pneumonia.

>

>

>

>

> What saved his life this time? Penicillin.

>

>

>

>

> The name of the nobleman? Lord Randolph Churchill.

> His son's name?

>

>

>

> Sir Winston Churchill.

>

>

>

>

> Someone once said: What goes around comes around.

>

>

>

> Work like you don't need the money.

>

>

>

> Love like you've never been hurt.

>

>

>

> Dance like nobody's watching.

>

>

>

> Sing like nobody's listening.

>

>

>

> Live like its Heaven on Earth.

>

>

>

>

> May there always be work for your hands to do;

>

>

>

>

> May your purse always hold a coin or two;

>

>

>

>

> May the sun always shine on your windowpane;

>

>

>

>

> May a rainbow be certain to follow each rain;

>

>

>

>

> May the hand of a friend always be near you;

>

>

>

>

> May God fill your heart with gladness to cheer you.

>

>

>

> --

> With warm regards,

>

> Lalita

>

 

 

 

 

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i have heard that a swami or sadhu can live more than a hundred years. how is it possible? plz help

 

 

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namaskar every1

 

i have heard that a swami or sadhu can live more than a hundred years. how is it possible? plz help

 

 

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-Respected shiva -bhakthas, There is one lady saint of

vishistaththwaidam sect living in kumbakonam!! Recently i visited &

received HER garce.Her age is above 100 !!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , hurry richa

<hurrybh wrote:

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> namaskar every1

>

> i have heard that a swami or sadhu can live more than a hundred

years. how is it possible? plz help

>

>

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JAI MAA,

 

If an orininary person can live past 100 to 150 years then a yogi who has

control over his 5 senses can live easily past hundred years.

 

Please read about TRAILANGA SWAMI or Yogiraj Sri Barphani Dadaji

 

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/swami.html

 

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Re:

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Hi,

 

This because of meditation. I know i am giving you straight answer hower it

is the base.

 

If you read " Sri Pada Sri vallabah charitam " It will give you lot of leads.

 

Regads,

J.Sridhar

 

 

On 5/19/07, hurry richa <hurrybh wrote:

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> namaskar every1

>

>i have heard that a swami or sadhu can live more than a hundred years. how

>is it possible? plz help

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I don't have a precise answer to your question as to how a swami or sadhu can live more than a hundred years but this type of longevity does not appear to be peculiar to swamis' or sadhus' as many people live to beyond one hundred years of age. It will be interesting to hear from people more learned in this.hurry richa <hurrybh wrote: namaskar every1 i have heard that a swami or sadhu can live more than a hundred years. how is it possible?

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Humble Obeisances to all! Sadhana. Revered AUM has nicely elaborated. I an not

more learned but try to answer to some extent. In Sadhana, be inquisitive and

get even smallest doubt clearedthrough right person/group, i.e. Satsang. Hear

appropriate and acquire Gyan by thinking/reading over it. Develop intense

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impatient for expected/desired results.

Don't get dissappointed at any lever and don't compare our own sadhana with

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for slow advancement. Superiority complex over slow brother/sister devotees is

also not allowed as God watches everyone as per his/her progress equally and

without comparison or extra favour to anyone. To get such points cleared in

more details, some devotee has put forward a proposal for joint meet of all

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First my Namaskarams to everyone.

 

I have been a silent spectator on this group for all these days. I had been to Samrakshana at Neelangarai during late 90's. Actually I came for the first time without any purpose but with a heavy heart and stress caused due to some incident at my work place. I was just a new comer and was witnessing the events there like Bhajans, Baba's discourse etc., I didnt mingle with any one there. Baba as part of His routine visits to devotees came up to me and gave me some Vibhuti prasadam and a chocolate. I just fell at His feet, which he didnt like. He lifted me up and said not to do it anymore. I didnt even ask or talk anything to Baba. Stayed there for sometime and came back home. That was a Sunday. Monday I just started to my office on my two wheeler and on the way I got a call on my mobile saying that the problem which was happening for such a long time (for many weeks) at office was cleared even before I reached office without even me dealing with the

problem. I would say that I just did nothing about the problem, but was worrying as it was uninvited for me and I was in no way part or cause of the problem.

 

After so many years I visited Ramarajya couple of times. Later I had an opportunity to write to Baba through the website about my another problem of mine. He replied to it personally saying that "Dont worry. You will be alrite". I was happy and in next few days, my problems looked subsided.

 

Few months back, I was just going through the web and found this which I only read but dont write here in the groups. As I was having my temple blog site I just kept posting my temple visits describing many temples etc., But I read most of the mails of this group. I saw a discussion about the devotee's experiences with Baba. It's been going for a while. In which, Mr. Krishnamurthy Venkatraman has written that Baba reads all the mails here in this group and He is aware of some members by name.

 

My thoughts were "Will Baba read my mails about temples too???" Will it happen???

 

Many wont beleive, I have been posting about the temples to this group for long and I didnt have any reply from anyone. Just after reading Mr. Krishnamurthy's mail and my subsequent thoughts, I just opened my blog site, I saw 2 of our member's comments on my page, saying that Iam doing a good job. And they are as follows :

 

Ms. Urmila wrote :

"You have done a job which is rare and you should feel thankful to Lord for assigning you to do this special job and bring the information to other sitting at their desks. Thanks to you and Thanks to Lord Shiva and BABAJI."

 

(In the above, "you should feel thankful to Lord for assigning you to do this special job" I took these words as Baba's words itself assigning me a such job. )

 

and Mr. Jaya Vijayan wrote :

 

" SANKARAM SIVA SANKARAM

Dear Saravanan,

 

gd evng. thank you so much to view the temple of Lord Chenganmaal.

like this so many temples are hiding in our TN. i used to tell myself to our BABA, pl visit those places so that they may become more sprituality and get HIS VIBARATION also. these places are unknown to me. thank you once again."

jv

salem

 

I thank both of them and also take their words as Baba Himself went through it and blessed me.

 

 

 

Thanks and Pranams to Baba and everyone here,

Saravanan

 

 

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Dearest Krishnamurthy Sir,

 

I never meant intentionally that no one gave comments. I meant that no one commented and when once I thought 'whether Baba would read my mails' suddenly comments started pouring and I took it as Baba's comments itself.

 

Sorry is too big a word for a person like me. Iam a small Dhoosi (dust) while seeing other Bhakthas.

 

Iam no way near to many of you here.

 

I really admire everyone's utmost devotion and total surrender under on umbrella. Sir, I once again apologise with you for having made you say 'sorry'. Actually I should say thanks to everyone here.

 

Namaskarams to all.

Saravanan

 

 

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Re: Thanks to Saravanan and Vidya Aunty

Posted by: "urmila kailashi" urmilakailash mykailash

Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:56 am (PDT)

shankaram shiva shankaram,'Pranams to Babaji,I am so happy to be among all of you. It makes me feel as if I am nearBabaji sitting among all of you next to HIM.I read in the mail which says you visited Babaji and on your return, yourproblem was solved.In my case, I witnessed the solutions there and then itself. In my firstvisit, my daughter being scared to appear for the priliminary test at Baba'sSchool and being new to the place was a little hesitant to appear for theexam the very first day. I, my daughter and my son, we three had visited.I myself was not aware of the powers of Babaji - not even a little. But Iwas going through the view of a few students and I started joinging 1 and 1and before I could reach any conclusion, I was in front of Babaji. Babajivery cool as usual just looking at Gauri said - take rest today and appearfor the exam tomorow if you want to.

Otherwise your admission is done.Fine.Gauri could not show it but I bursted out of laughter. I told Babaji likean innocent child that Babaji, she was only praying to Lord Shiva that shewould like to appear for the exam the next day. How did you know thatBabaji. Babaji as usual laughed and laughed.We all laughed and laughed - you would feel why did we all laugh. I stilldon't know why did we all laugh but we all had a lengthy laugh session.Writing this mail, I am again revived of that incident and I am laughingright now again. I am sure Babaji is also doing the same there in Chennai.I am sorry, I had to wait for a little while to stop laughing.So I was just trying to tell everyone that my case, I have seen thesolutions there and then itself.So much so the things which seem to be difficult, have been solved infrictions of a second.I am yet to go there on pournima to witness

how people go in trans and------------ - I do not know exactly.shankaram shiva shankaramBabaji pranams,Mr. Saravanan ji,I thanked you for playing such a fantastic role because of these reasons :1. Details of temples can be found in books also but would require a lot ofsearching, time, energy and yet you cannot be sure you got the temple youhad in mind. Your detailed information is readily available so a personwho is unable to spend and waste time, can go through your details and getthorough knowledge.2. The details captured by you are your personal visits and details - whichmake the reader visit the temple personally. I felt that I was personallywalking through the temple all the way reading your details.3. The details given by you were thorough and every minute information washighlighted. Normally people who visit temples, do go through the route, dogo through the

corridors of the temple, do go through the Moorthies buthardly anyone I MEAN ANYONE gets to know the history of the temple, thebackground of the temple and the importance or the value of the temple.Having darshan is a common job. Knowing the history and its value isanother impossible job. On top of that presenting the informationaccurately to others to visit the temples through their computers is all themore an impossible job.4. Hats off to you because God - Babaji chose you for this job because hegave you the sense of observation, then preservation of the information andthen the courage and knowledge to present the information for others.Had you been an uneducated person, you would not have been able to do thisjob. So its again Babaji who wanted you to do this job, gave you the pathto move on it.5. Unless you had those magnetic powers and vibrations in you, Babaji wouldnot have given you

the inner instict to visit the temples so minutely andmake notings for others. Babaji knows who is capable of what and it ispeople like me who realise very late or probably untill the right timecomes, we do not realise it. So when you present such information, you musthave got the sources and resources for it, which is again a blessing ofBabaji.Saravanan ji, I had many more points in mind when I said thanks to you butit would take really very long for you even to read them.But truely from my inner heart, I once again thank you for the wonderfuljob.Saravanan ji, there are a few placement services who get you the rightjob., Babaji is that divine power, that will get you the right thing but atthe right time. This is my conclusion. May be I am right. But if I amwrong, please do correct me because I have not been very very close to himand not many visits to him. Babaji knows our ins and outs

and knows how totackle us in the best way. Its only we who do not surrender - may bebecause of our own ego or worldly affairs attachment etc.Saravanan ji, I would end this mail by saying thanks to you once again.Please do continue sending informations on temples. If you have anyinformation on PANCH KEDAR, please do send me the same.Babaji pranams,shankaram shiva shankaram.On 3/23/08, Krishna Moorthy <krishcare > wrote:>> Dear Saravanan,>> Sankaram Siva Sankaram.>> I am happy and glad to understand that you are such a fortunate devotee of> Baba.> I am accepting in public my mistake in not posting my comments in your> blog.> Kindly forgive me for the same.>> Please accept our sincere thanks on behalf of all

our Brothers and Sisters> of Samratchana Family.> We enjoy reading about such wonderful temples - especially in OMR ..your> Photographs are so nice.>> This E-group has remained silent for very long time, till recently my> Sister Dhana Lakshmi, Ambiga, Hema, and others have made it exciting and a> happening place. Otherwise, it was maily our Vidya aunty, followed by> Praveena, sometime Suresh Krishna uncle and others...>> Kindly imagine our Vidya Aunty's dedication / devotion ....without any> expectation. .> Aunty has been posting our Baba's discourse - regularly - How many of us> have thanked her for that.> She is not expecting a thanking note from Krish. (Sure no doubt)> She is doing it for Baba (Sure no doubt at all)> But I have again failed in thanking such nice acts of our own Samratchana> Members.> I request all such Kind

Hearts to forgive this small man and in future I> will make it a point to thank you.> It is MY Duty and I will.>> Dear Brothers and Sisters of Samratchana Family - Once in a while - will> it not be nice for us to just type 2 or 3 lines thanking such people for> helping us. Kindly consider my request - Please send a mail to such> wonderful people.>> Thanking everyone in advance.>> Sankaram Siva Sankaram> Krish> Krishnamoorthy Venkataraman> +91 98410 90169>>>>>> > Saravanan <sharanshiva28@ >> Samratchana <>> Saturday, 22 March, 2008 5:22:30 PM> Re: >> Dear All,>> First my Namaskarams to everyone.>> I have been a silent spectator on this group for all these days. I had> been to Samrakshana at Neelangarai during late 90's. Actually I came for the> first time without any purpose but with a heavy heart and stress caused due> to some incident at my work place. I was just a new comer and was witnessing> the events there like Bhajans, Baba's discourse etc., I didnt mingle with> any one there. Baba as part of His routine visits to devotees came up to me> and gave me some Vibhuti prasadam and a chocolate. I just fell at His feet,> which he didnt like. He lifted me up and said not to do it anymore. I didnt> even ask or talk anything to Baba.

Stayed there for sometime and came back> home. That was a Sunday. Monday I just started to my office on my two> wheeler and on the way I got a call on my mobile saying that the problem> which was happening for such a long time (for many weeks) at office was> cleared even before I reached office without even me dealing with the> problem. I would say that I just did nothing about the problem, but was> worrying as it was uninvited for me and I was in no way part or cause of the> problem.>> After so many years I visited Ramarajya couple of times. Later I had an> opportunity to write to Baba through the website about my another problem of> mine. He replied to it personally saying that "Dont worry. You will be> alrite". I was happy and in next few days, my problems looked subsided.>> Few months back, I was just going through the web and found this >

groups which I only read but dont write here in the groups. As I was having> my temple blog site I just kept posting my temple visits describing many> temples etc.., But I read most of the mails of this group. I saw a> discussion about the devotee's experiences with Baba. It's been going for a> while. In which, Mr.. Krishnamurthy Venkatraman has written that Baba reads> all the mails here in this group and He is aware of some members by name.>> My thoughts were "Will Baba read my mails about temples too???" Will it> happen???>> Many wont beleive, I have been posting about the temples to this group for> long and I didnt have any reply from anyone. Just after reading Mr.> Krishnamurthy' s mail and my subsequent thoughts, I just opened my blog> site, I saw 2 of our member's comments on my page, saying that Iam doing a> good job. And they are as follows

:>> Ms. Urmila wrote :> "You have done a job which is rare and you should feel thankful to Lord> for assigning you to do this special job and bring the information to other> sitting at their desks. Thanks to you and Thanks to Lord Shiva and BABAJI.">> (In the above, "you should feel thankful to Lord for assigning you to do> this special job" I took these words as Baba's words itself assigning me a> such job. )>> and Mr. Jaya Vijayan wrote :>> " SANKARAM SIVA SANKARAM Dear Saravanan,>> gd evng. thank you so much to view the temple of Lord Chenganmaal.> like this so many temples are hiding in our TN. i used to tell myself to> our BABA, pl visit those places so that they may become more sprituality and> get HIS VIBARATION also.. these places are unknown to me. thank you once> again."> jv> salem>> I

thank both of them and also take their words as Baba Himself went> through it and blessed me.>>>> Thanks and Pranams to Baba and everyone here,> Saravanan>>> .>>>> ------------ --------- ---------> Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. <http://in.rd. / tagline_webmesse nger_10/* http://in. messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>>> >-- Urmilawife ofMr. Shashi KantPresidentKailash Mansarover Sewa Samiti (Regd)Office No. 3, C.S.C. Market,GH-4, Meera Apartments,Outer Ring Road, Paschim Vihar,New Delhi-110 063Ph : 011-25255715Mobile : 9811642604website : www.kailashmansarov er.org

 

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2008-January-28th morning and 29th evening speeches with Baba's bles

Posted by: "Santhana Krishnan" vidyaskrish vidyaskrish

Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:06 am (PDT)

Dear children,Today I have uploaded the speeches delivered by Babaon 28th morning and 29th evening of January 2008.These speeches are availabe at http://www.voiceofb aba.org/2008- 1-28_B'day_morn_2. asxhttp://speeches. . com/2008- 1-28_B'day_morn_2. asxhttp://www.voiceofb aba.org/2008- 1-29eve_1. asxhttp://speeches. . com/2008- 1-29eve_1. asxThese speeches you can download from the followinglinks.http://www.voiceofb aba.org/2008-

1-28_B'day_morn_2. wmahttp://speeches. . com/2008- 1-28_B'day_morn_2. wmahttp://www.voiceofb aba.org/2008- 1-29eve_1. wmahttp://speeches. . com/2008- 1-29eve_1. wmaEnjoy yourselves.With lots of love,Vidya Mami____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www.. com/r/hs

 

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Posted by: "swaminathan jayalakshmi" swamjaya swamjaya

Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:17 am (PDT)

Dear Mr. Saravanan,Sankaram Siva Sankaram.Myself and my son (Ganesh Swaminathan, Mansfied, Ohio, USA) have been viewing all your temple blog sites and were full of appreciation. I never miss to go through the Sthalapuranam. I have taken note of points whichever I require esp., your mention about the Pathiri Maram behind which the Vallakottai Murugan Temple have risen, since Baba gave us a huge and wonderful lecture on spiritual sanctity of those Trees which have gained special mention in our Puranas on the day of Masi Magam.Though I hadn't introduced myself through this e.group, I had already thanked you and wished you for your great & good service through the columns of THIRUMAZHISAI TEMPLE BLOG.We are all praying our beloved Babs for the contiunance of your good services,Love to allJayalakshmi Swaminathan(@ Editorial Wing of Sam. with the divine blessings of

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Posted by: "arhl_ram" rhlatha arhl_ram

Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:37 am (PDT)

Sankaram Siva SankaramDear Family members,I hope we all are doing well with our Baba's blessings. Thank you BABA.Whenever I receive mail from our group, I wish to write a thanking mail. My apologies for not doing so.I took this as an opportunity for me to thank all of our family members. Thank you all.I do not know anyone by their face; I familiarize them through their name in the e-mail and by our BABA's speeches. Dear moderator; (sorry I do not know you name) thank you for your kind excellent job.Dear Vidhya Aunty; thank you so much for uploading baba's speeches which is my energy Booster everyday.Dear Praveena ; thank you for your good job. I heard your name from BABA's speech. How blessed you are!Dear KrishnaMoorthy ; thank you for your immediate reply and appreciation to everyone in our group. You are really too

polite, and friendly with our baba's blessing. How sweet our BABADear Saravanan ; Thank you for your extraordinary job, Your website details are too interesting. It is so useful for everyone. Our baba blesses you always.Dear Ambika, Dear Dhanalakshmi, Dear Jaya Vijayan, Thank you so much for sharing your experience with our Group.Dear Meena, Dear Chella and our Dear member's of song group, Thank you for your blissful and blessing songs. I heard your voices when I was at . Really it is our baba's gift. Dear Venkatesan , Dear Venky Srinivasan and Dear Suresh Krishna uncle; thank you for your guidance and valuable suggestions.Dear Book selling uncle (again sorry I do not know your name), Thank you for your patience to us. I wish to thank aunty who is in our books and Cd selling counter, Thank you aunty, I am so sorry I don't know your name.I wish to thank

our dear prasatham serving group members, THANK YOU for your kind service. Whenever I visited I never missed to eat there.Last but not least, I wish to thank ALL the smiling-face volunteers in our family.I know only this much members of our large family. Sorry to not writing individually about other members (because my knowledge about our family members is very less) those who are all silently devoting themselves to our BABA. I thank you all. I pray our baba to bless all of us.Thank you BABA.Love Hema

 

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