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Are Hindus Idol Worshipers?

 

by Dr. Frank Morales, Ph.D.

(Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya)

 

From the very earliest dawn of religious consciousness in human

beings, people have attempted to approach and know the Divine by the

use of various intermediary devices. Such vehicles of worship and

meditation have included divine images, sacred relics of saints, and

hallowed objects of many descriptions. The use of images as a path

through which finite humanity can approach the Infinite has been

found in every traditional culture, religion, and nation on earth.

The use of images as a way to know the Divine has been the

overwhelming norm – and not the exception – in the history of the

world's many religions.

 

The almost sole exception to this means of approaching God has

occurred in the relatively recent religions of the Western world.

For the majority of adherents of the Abrahamic sects (Judaism,

Christianity, and Islam), the use of images as tools for meditation

and prayer has been looked upon as a taboo religious activity. Many

Western religions consequently oppose the practice of what they

term " idol " worship. The leaders of these Abrahamic sects have

repeatedly condemned worshipers who employ images of divine figures

as " Devil worshipers " , " idolaters " , " heathens " and " infidels " , among

other uncharitable descriptions. Those who use icons as a means of

worship have faced persecution, denunciation, and even death at the

hands of such " idol " smashers. But is the conscious use of sacred

imagery in worship and meditation really to be considered " idol

worship " and consequently condemned? Followers of Sanatana Dharma

are known to use sacred images as focal points for meditation and

worship, and have suffered significant persecution as a result. Are

Hindus actually idol worshipers?

 

The concept of an " idol " does not refer merely to any iconographic

image that is used in worship. Rather the term " idol " refers

specifically to an image that is made up, concocted in the mind of

its maker, and then claimed to be a divinity. An idol in the proper

sense of the term refers to something that one worships as a result

of his or her own whim, and not as a result of the teachings of

sacred scriptures.

 

This, however, is not what Hindus are doing when we venerate sacred

images. Hindus are not idol worshipers because the images that we

employ in worship are not contrived by humans.

 

Rather than " idols " , Hindus worship what are properly

called " Murtis " . Murti worship is a divine science revealed to

humanity in order to facilitate our closeness to God. Sacred Hindu

images are not the fanciful creations of the human imagination.

Rather, such sacred images were revealed to Hindu worshipers by sages

(Rishis) who have directly experienced the nature of the Divine. To

use objects as a focus for devotional prayer and contemplation is

perfectly fine, as long as these images are God-revealed.

 

The science of employing divine imagery is found in sacred revealed

texts known as the Agamas and Pancaratras. In these texts, the

entire science of image veneration is laid out in a logical and

reasonable manner. For example there are very exacting

specifications for precisely how such images must be created,

including the exact dimensions of the images, the rituals necessary

to create them, and what sacred mantras must be recited during the

process. Indeed, even the exact size of every toe has to be

according to certain strict specifications. Only when these images

are in accord with these exact specifications do they then become

vehicles of the Divine, and proper objects of veneration and

meditation.

 

In following these exact requirements of the sacred texts of Sanatana

Dharma the worshiper is performing a very special sacred process

known as Murti worship, which is categorically distinct from " idol "

worship.

 

The term " idol " is a clearly derogatory term used by unthinking

followers of anti-Hindu religions to persecute and revile the

profound spiritual tradition of Sanatana Dharma. In the same way

that other derogatory terms have been removed from civilized human

discourse, the term " idol " must never be used again by either Hindus

or non-Hindus to refer to the sublime science of Murti worship.

 

Indeed, even Hindus themselves have often been guilty of using the

term " idol " in ignorance of the nature of their own religion.

Whether the term is used by either Hindus or non-Hindus, the use of

the term " idol " to refer to our sacred imagery must be immediately

stopped. Rather we must begin to use such proper Sanskrit terms as

Murti, Archa, etc. when referring to our sacred imagery.

 

Our own ignorance of our own religion is just as inexcusable as is a

non-Hindu's ignorance of our religion. Let us take pride in the

divine gift that the Rishis have bestowed upon us in the form of

Murti worship.

 

 

His primary websites are:

 

http://www.dharmacentral.com

 

Regards

Dr. Frank Morales

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Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!Dear Frank please accept my respectful pranams!, My-self feels hindus do not exist at all! All religion and caste came from men and not Shri ParamAtman. If a -self- follows the path of vedic dharma, then his/her way of jiva is Hinduism or Dharmic life.I am not sure if all the 18 puranas mention Hindu's nor Hinduism. All jiva's still have to cope with the panja bhuttams whatever "religion" or caste they *think* they belong to?Please correct my-self if what i comment is non-sense.I beg to remain humble to the devotees of the Lord and Lord!SubhamDinamAstu!SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamAstu!drfmrls <no_reply > Sent: Thursday, 21 June, 2007 12:51:33 PM Are Hindus Idol Worshipers?

 

Are Hindus Idol Worshipers?

 

by Dr. Frank Morales, Ph.D.

(Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya)

 

From the very earliest dawn of religious consciousness in human

beings, people have attempted to approach and know the Divine by the

use of various intermediary devices. Such vehicles of worship and

meditation have included divine images, sacred relics of saints, and

hallowed objects of many descriptions. The use of images as a path

through which finite humanity can approach the Infinite has been

found in every traditional culture, religion, and nation on earth.

The use of images as a way to know the Divine has been the

overwhelming norm – and not the exception – in the history of the

world's many religions.

 

The almost sole exception to this means of approaching God has

occurred in the relatively recent religions of the Western world.

For the majority of adherents of the Abrahamic sects (Judaism,

Christianity, and Islam), the use of images as tools for meditation

and prayer has been looked upon as a taboo religious activity. Many

Western religions consequently oppose the practice of what they

term "idol" worship. The leaders of these Abrahamic sects have

repeatedly condemned worshipers who employ images of divine figures

as "Devil worshipers", "idolaters", "heathens" and "infidels", among

other uncharitable descriptions. Those who use icons as a means of

worship have faced persecution, denunciation, and even death at the

hands of such "idol" smashers. But is the conscious use of sacred

imagery in worship and meditation really to be considered "idol

worship" and consequently condemned? Followers of Sanatana Dharma

are known to use sacred images as focal points for meditation and

worship, and have suffered significant persecution as a result. Are

Hindus actually idol worshipers?

 

The concept of an "idol" does not refer merely to any iconographic

image that is used in worship. Rather the term "idol" refers

specifically to an image that is made up, concocted in the mind of

its maker, and then claimed to be a divinity. An idol in the proper

sense of the term refers to something that one worships as a result

of his or her own whim, and not as a result of the teachings of

sacred scriptures.

 

This, however, is not what Hindus are doing when we venerate sacred

images. Hindus are not idol worshipers because the images that we

employ in worship are not contrived by humans.

 

Rather than "idols", Hindus worship what are properly

called "Murtis". Murti worship is a divine science revealed to

humanity in order to facilitate our closeness to God. Sacred Hindu

images are not the fanciful creations of the human imagination.

Rather, such sacred images were revealed to Hindu worshipers by sages

(Rishis) who have directly experienced the nature of the Divine. To

use objects as a focus for devotional prayer and contemplation is

perfectly fine, as long as these images are God-revealed.

 

The science of employing divine imagery is found in sacred revealed

texts known as the Agamas and Pancaratras. In these texts, the

entire science of image veneration is laid out in a logical and

reasonable manner. For example there are very exacting

specifications for precisely how such images must be created,

including the exact dimensions of the images, the rituals necessary

to create them, and what sacred mantras must be recited during the

process. Indeed, even the exact size of every toe has to be

according to certain strict specifications. Only when these images

are in accord with these exact specifications do they then become

vehicles of the Divine, and proper objects of veneration and

meditation.

 

In following these exact requirements of the sacred texts of Sanatana

Dharma the worshiper is performing a very special sacred process

known as Murti worship, which is categorically distinct from "idol"

worship.

 

The term "idol" is a clearly derogatory term used by unthinking

followers of anti-Hindu religions to persecute and revile the

profound spiritual tradition of Sanatana Dharma. In the same way

that other derogatory terms have been removed from civilized human

discourse, the term "idol" must never be used again by either Hindus

or non-Hindus to refer to the sublime science of Murti worship.

 

Indeed, even Hindus themselves have often been guilty of using the

term "idol" in ignorance of the nature of their own religion.

Whether the term is used by either Hindus or non-Hindus, the use of

the term "idol" to refer to our sacred imagery must be immediately

stopped. Rather we must begin to use such proper Sanskrit terms as

Murti, Archa, etc. when referring to our sacred imagery.

 

Our own ignorance of our own religion is just as inexcusable as is a

non-Hindu's ignorance of our religion. Let us take pride in the

divine gift that the Rishis have bestowed upon us in the form of

Murti worship.

 

His primary websites are:

 

http://www.dharmace ntral.com

 

Regards

Dr. Frank Morales

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From Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa:

 

" Sir " , asked the disciple, " why do we have to go to the temple, when

we have the idols of deities and their photographs in the puja rooms

of our residences, to which we do our daily puja? "

 

" I shall answer you query in a few minutes. Please go to Mother, and

fetch me some water to drink. "

 

The disciple did accordingly, and he brought some drinking water in a

brass tumblar.

 

" I asked you water to drink, but why did you bring it in a vessel? "

was the next query from the Paramahamsa.

 

" How can I bring it in my hands, would it not spill while I bring it

to you? " was the deferred reply.

 

" Now, I am replying to your first question. Listen to me carefully.

Our mind is a temple. But however much we stay at home and try to

control our minds and pray to God, it will go astray like the

proverbial monkeys who jump from tree to tree like the water brought

in your bare hands. It will spill, and by the time it reaches me there

will be nothing left.

 

On the other hand if one visits the temple the serene and peaceful

atmosphere there induces the mind to concentrate on the one point

which is God. Not only you get to concentrate on the one point God, it

also cleanses your mind, something like the Water in the brass utensil.

 

Do you now realise the importance of a visit to the temple? "

 

(posted on the net)

 

 

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> Are Hindus Idol Worshipers?

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> by Dr. Frank Morales, Ph.D.

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dear shivbhakts

om namo bhagawate rudraya

 

seeing god in an idol is the first step before realising the god

within.

 

when christians worship the idol of a jesus christ on the cross in a

church, it is idol worship only. many christians wear the idol of a

jesus on a cross in a locket and wear it in their necks. you will

find idols of jesus adoring the walls and tables of all homes of

christians. in many churches across india, people offer flower

garlands to large idols of jesus and mary and offer incence sticks

just like the hindus. there is a church in hyderabad where i have

seen several rudraksha malas in the neck of the idol of jesus, the

reason might be that they found shiva in christ.

 

for a person who has not achieved self realisation, he sees the god

in the manifestation or a form i.e. the idol.

 

hence hindus are idol worshippers as much as the christians.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, Pradeep Balakrishnan

<balakrishnanpradeep wrote:

>

> Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

>

> Dear Frank please accept my respectful pranams!,

>

> My-self feels hindus do not exist at all! All religion and caste

came from men and not Shri ParamAtman. If a -self- follows the path

of vedic dharma, then his/her way of jiva is Hinduism or Dharmic life.

>

> I am not sure if all the 18 puranas mention Hindu's nor Hinduism.

All jiva's still have to cope with the panja bhuttams

whatever " religion " or caste they *think* they belong to?

>

> Please correct my-self if what i comment is non-sense.

>

> I beg to remain humble to the devotees of the Lord and Lord!

>

> SubhamDinamAstu!

> SarvamSriKrishnaArpanamAstu!

>

>

> drfmrls <no_reply >

>

> Thursday, 21 June, 2007 12:51:33 PM

> Are Hindus Idol Worshipers?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Are Hindus Idol Worshipers?

>

>

>

> by Dr. Frank Morales, Ph.D.

>

> (Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya)

>

>

>

> From the very earliest dawn of religious consciousness in human

>

> beings, people have attempted to approach and know the Divine by

the

>

> use of various intermediary devices. Such vehicles of worship and

>

> meditation have included divine images, sacred relics of saints,

and

>

> hallowed objects of many descriptions. The use of images as a

path

>

> through which finite humanity can approach the Infinite has been

>

> found in every traditional culture, religion, and nation on earth.

>

> The use of images as a way to know the Divine has been the

>

> overwhelming norm – and not the exception – in the history of the

>

> world's many religions.

>

>

>

> The almost sole exception to this means of approaching God has

>

> occurred in the relatively recent religions of the Western world.

>

> For the majority of adherents of the Abrahamic sects (Judaism,

>

> Christianity, and Islam), the use of images as tools for meditation

>

> and prayer has been looked upon as a taboo religious activity.

Many

>

> Western religions consequently oppose the practice of what they

>

> term " idol " worship. The leaders of these Abrahamic sects have

>

> repeatedly condemned worshipers who employ images of divine figures

>

> as " Devil worshipers " , " idolaters " , " heathens " and " infidels " ,

among

>

> other uncharitable descriptions. Those who use icons as a means of

>

> worship have faced persecution, denunciation, and even death at the

>

> hands of such " idol " smashers. But is the conscious use of sacred

>

> imagery in worship and meditation really to be considered " idol

>

> worship " and consequently condemned? Followers of Sanatana Dharma

>

> are known to use sacred images as focal points for meditation and

>

> worship, and have suffered significant persecution as a result.

Are

>

> Hindus actually idol worshipers?

>

>

>

> The concept of an " idol " does not refer merely to any iconographic

>

> image that is used in worship. Rather the term " idol " refers

>

> specifically to an image that is made up, concocted in the mind of

>

> its maker, and then claimed to be a divinity. An idol in the

proper

>

> sense of the term refers to something that one worships as a result

>

> of his or her own whim, and not as a result of the teachings of

>

> sacred scriptures.

>

>

>

> This, however, is not what Hindus are doing when we venerate sacred

>

> images. Hindus are not idol worshipers because the images that we

>

> employ in worship are not contrived by humans.

>

>

>

> Rather than " idols " , Hindus worship what are properly

>

> called " Murtis " . Murti worship is a divine science revealed to

>

> humanity in order to facilitate our closeness to God. Sacred Hindu

>

> images are not the fanciful creations of the human imagination.

>

> Rather, such sacred images were revealed to Hindu worshipers by

sages

>

> (Rishis) who have directly experienced the nature of the Divine.

To

>

> use objects as a focus for devotional prayer and contemplation is

>

> perfectly fine, as long as these images are God-revealed.

>

>

>

> The science of employing divine imagery is found in sacred revealed

>

> texts known as the Agamas and Pancaratras. In these texts, the

>

> entire science of image veneration is laid out in a logical and

>

> reasonable manner. For example there are very exacting

>

> specifications for precisely how such images must be created,

>

> including the exact dimensions of the images, the rituals necessary

>

> to create them, and what sacred mantras must be recited during the

>

> process. Indeed, even the exact size of every toe has to be

>

> according to certain strict specifications. Only when these images

>

> are in accord with these exact specifications do they then become

>

> vehicles of the Divine, and proper objects of veneration and

>

> meditation.

>

>

>

> In following these exact requirements of the sacred texts of

Sanatana

>

> Dharma the worshiper is performing a very special sacred process

>

> known as Murti worship, which is categorically distinct from " idol "

>

> worship.

>

>

>

> The term " idol " is a clearly derogatory term used by unthinking

>

> followers of anti-Hindu religions to persecute and revile the

>

> profound spiritual tradition of Sanatana Dharma. In the same way

>

> that other derogatory terms have been removed from civilized human

>

> discourse, the term " idol " must never be used again by either

Hindus

>

> or non-Hindus to refer to the sublime science of Murti worship.

>

>

>

> Indeed, even Hindus themselves have often been guilty of using the

>

> term " idol " in ignorance of the nature of their own religion.

>

> Whether the term is used by either Hindus or non-Hindus, the use of

>

> the term " idol " to refer to our sacred imagery must be immediately

>

> stopped. Rather we must begin to use such proper Sanskrit terms as

>

> Murti, Archa, etc. when referring to our sacred imagery.

>

>

>

> Our own ignorance of our own religion is just as inexcusable as is

a

>

> non-Hindu's ignorance of our religion. Let us take pride in the

>

> divine gift that the Rishis have bestowed upon us in the form of

>

> Murti worship.

>

>

>

> His primary websites are:

>

>

>

> http://www.dharmace ntral.com

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Dr. Frank Morales

>

>

>

>

>

>

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, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear shivbhakts

> om namo bhagawate rudraya

>

> seeing god in an idol is the first step before realising the god

> within.

>

> when christians worship the idol of a jesus christ on the cross in

a

> church, it is idol worship only. many christians wear the idol of

a

> jesus on a cross in a locket and wear it in their necks. you will

> find idols of jesus adoring the walls and tables of all homes of

> christians. in many churches across india, people offer flower

> garlands to large idols of jesus and mary and offer incence sticks

> just like the hindus. there is a church in hyderabad where i have

> seen several rudraksha malas in the neck of the idol of jesus, the

> reason might be that they found shiva in christ.

>

> for a person who has not achieved self realisation, he sees the god

> in the manifestation or a form i.e. the idol.

>

> hence hindus are idol worshippers as much as the christians.

 

This is true as far as the Catholics and, perhaps, Orthodox Church is

concerned. Protestants pretty much stay away from images of Jesus, or

others. They may wear a cross, but I've never seen an image of Jesus

on it. They may hang a cross in their Church, but they don't

conscientiously pray to it. It is just their for their inspiration,

and maybe, whether they realize it or not, adds a " Christian Vaastu " ,

or " Feng Shui " , to the Sanctuary.

 

Blessings,

Stephen

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Hi Stephen,

 

I think you are missing the point entirely. It's not

just about idols - it's about symbolism. And it's just

not about praying, it's about association of GOD with

an image or symbol we can relate to. If you want to

associate with GOD, you need an image, don't you? When

you think of GOD as Jesus, the image of Jesus

immediately comes to your mind. If one were to say

that God was ParaBrahman and that ParaBrahman was

everything, everything more and everything else - it

would be an abstract concept that few can relate to.

Therefore, for those lesser mortals like myself, until

we can graduate to the higher level, for association

with GOD, we need to have something that symbolizes

the same. It could be an idol, which would given a

human form. Or it could be a symbol like the Lingam

for Shiva or the Cross for Jesus. For those evovled

and realized mortals, symbols are no longer necessary

as they have attained Brahman.

 

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to correct me, members.

This is just a great learning process for me.

 

I am sure other learned members here can dileniate

further.

 

Thanks,

Vijay

 

 

--- liberator_9 <liberator_9 wrote:

 

> ,

> " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> >

> > dear shivbhakts

> > om namo bhagawate rudraya

> >

> > seeing god in an idol is the first step before

> realising the god

> > within.

> >

> > when christians worship the idol of a jesus christ

> on the cross in

> a

> > church, it is idol worship only. many christians

> wear the idol of

> a

> > jesus on a cross in a locket and wear it in their

> necks. you will

> > find idols of jesus adoring the walls and tables

> of all homes of

> > christians. in many churches across india, people

> offer flower

> > garlands to large idols of jesus and mary and

> offer incence sticks

> > just like the hindus. there is a church in

> hyderabad where i have

> > seen several rudraksha malas in the neck of the

> idol of jesus, the

> > reason might be that they found shiva in christ.

> >

> > for a person who has not achieved self

> realisation, he sees the god

> > in the manifestation or a form i.e. the idol.

> >

> > hence hindus are idol worshippers as much as the

> christians.

>

> This is true as far as the Catholics and, perhaps,

> Orthodox Church is

> concerned. Protestants pretty much stay away from

> images of Jesus, or

> others. They may wear a cross, but I've never seen

> an image of Jesus

> on it. They may hang a cross in their Church, but

> they don't

> conscientiously pray to it. It is just their for

> their inspiration,

> and maybe, whether they realize it or not, adds a

> " Christian Vaastu " ,

> or " Feng Shui " , to the Sanctuary.

>

> Blessings,

> Stephen

>

>

 

 

 

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Check out fun summer activities for kids.

http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz

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