Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 During the 14 years vanavAsa of Sri Ram, jayanta, son of Indra, came one day as crow and did some mischief with Sita. Ram sent one arrow. jayanta went to his father, went to vishnu, went to Siva, but nobody could help him. On his way he way nArada and nArada advised him to go to Lord Ram's feet and no other option. You go to that person with whom you have difference of opinion and tell him that i am very sorry, pardon me, fall on his feet. This is the best and the only option to restore the relation and remove all misunderstandings. Other than this whatever you do, you may be able to get a bit relief within your mind, but the other person will keep the same grudge. Best wishes vijayanji --- On Sat, 25/4/09, prajakta samant <praj_058 wrote: prajakta samant <praj_058Re: healing Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 9:13 PM Hi,if we have offended someone or hurt someone, is there anything to heal tat other than saying sorry coz mere saying sorry wont undo the harm we have done. if there is something by which i can restore my relationship it will be very helpful. Looking forward to some solution to this problem.Regards,Prajakta--- On Sat, 25/4/09, N.B. Sriantha <nbsrinath wrote: N.B. Sriantha <nbsrinathRe: healing Cc: actionforsoulDate: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 5:19 PM hi, Use mantra OM BHRIM NAMAH SHIVAYA for healing purpose, for which type of healing u r doing? u r from? thanks, with regards, srinatha VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, April 24, 2009 10:27:55 AMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healing this is correct--- On Wed, 22/4/09, actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it> wrote: actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healingom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comWednesday, 22 April, 2009, 1:18 AM  I found in the files section this MAHA MRUTHYUNJAYA MANTRA THRAYAMBAKAM YAJAMAHE SUGANDHIM PUSHTI VARDHANAM URUVA RUKAMIVA BHANDHANATH MRUTHYOR MUKSHEEYA MAMRUTHAATH is it right? and which the difference with OM RAM RAMAYA NAMAHA - Divakara Tanjore om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:45 AM Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healing The mantra will know what to do based on your intention, intend what healing is needed and chant the mantra, the deity or the energy of the mantra will do the rest, leave the result to the deity do not hold on to it, let the healing be done for the highest purpose. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Tue, 4/21/09, actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it> wrote: actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healingom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comTuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:08 PM  thanks I got to use thinking to the healing problem or mantra knows what to do? thanks francesco - Divakara Tanjore om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:40 PM Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healing You can use Shiv Mantra Maha Mrutyunjaya Mantra "OM TRIUMBAKAM YEJA MAHE ..." and also Sri Rama Mantra "OM RAM RAMAYA NAMAHA" for healing self and others, eventually these mantras are for spiritual evolution but it can be used for healing as physical, mental and spiritual healing is part of spiritual evolution. Om Namah Shivyam God Bless, Divakar. --- On Tue, 4/21/09, actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it> wrote: actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it>[om_namah_shivaya_ group] healingom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comTuesday, April 21, 2009, 6:13 AM  my passion is healing people like I have already said I use mantra "om namah shivaya" a lot in which I truly have feeling in shiva=god for specific healing mantra I use om tayata bekanze bekanze maha bekanze radja sumdgate soha there is a speficic shiva mantra for healing? thanks francesco Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Sorry must only be said when we realise our mistakes and willing to correct it. Just to say sorry to get back a relationship does not make sense as you are the same what u were before. When the other person sees that you have changed then it will give that person happiness and he will forgive you from heart and only this will lead to a long lasting relationship. Pray to lord Shiva and approch that person, things will fall at its place. Regards Dinesh --- On Mon, 4/27/09, VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil wrote: VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyilRe: healing Cc: praj_058Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:17 PM During the 14 years vanavAsa of Sri Ram, jayanta, son of Indra, came one day as crow and did some mischief with Sita. Ram sent one arrow. jayanta went to his father, went to vishnu, went to Siva, but nobody could help him. On his way he way nArada and nArada advised him to go to Lord Ram's feet and no other option. You go to that person with whom you have difference of opinion and tell him that i am very sorry, pardon me, fall on his feet. This is the best and the only option to restore the relation and remove all misunderstandings. Other than this whatever you do, you may be able to get a bit relief within your mind, but the other person will keep the same grudge. Best wishes vijayanji --- On Sat, 25/4/09, prajakta samant <praj_058 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: prajakta samant <praj_058 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healingom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSaturday, 25 April, 2009, 9:13 PM Hi,if we have offended someone or hurt someone, is there anything to heal tat other than saying sorry coz mere saying sorry wont undo the harm we have done. if there is something by which i can restore my relationship it will be very helpful. Looking forward to some solution to this problem.Regards,Prajakta--- On Sat, 25/4/09, N.B. Sriantha <nbsrinath > wrote: N.B. Sriantha <nbsrinath >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healingom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comCc: actionforsoul@ .itSaturday, 25 April, 2009, 5:19 PM hi, Use mantra OM BHRIM NAMAH SHIVAYA for healing purpose, for which type of healing u r doing? u r from? thanks, with regards, srinatha VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, April 24, 2009 10:27:55 AMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healing this is correct--- On Wed, 22/4/09, actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it> wrote: actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healingom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comWednesday, 22 April, 2009, 1:18 AM  I found in the files section this MAHA MRUTHYUNJAYA MANTRA THRAYAMBAKAM YAJAMAHE SUGANDHIM PUSHTI VARDHANAM URUVA RUKAMIVA BHANDHANATH MRUTHYOR MUKSHEEYA MAMRUTHAATH is it right? and which the difference with OM RAM RAMAYA NAMAHA - Divakara Tanjore om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:45 AM Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healing The mantra will know what to do based on your intention, intend what healing is needed and chant the mantra, the deity or the energy of the mantra will do the rest, leave the result to the deity do not hold on to it, let the healing be done for the highest purpose. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Tue, 4/21/09, actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it> wrote: actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healingom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comTuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:08 PM  thanks I got to use thinking to the healing problem or mantra knows what to do? thanks francesco - Divakara Tanjore om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:40 PM Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] healing You can use Shiv Mantra Maha Mrutyunjaya Mantra "OM TRIUMBAKAM YEJA MAHE ..." and also Sri Rama Mantra "OM RAM RAMAYA NAMAHA" for healing self and others, eventually these mantras are for spiritual evolution but it can be used for healing as physical, mental and spiritual healing is part of spiritual evolution. Om Namah Shivyam God Bless, Divakar. --- On Tue, 4/21/09, actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it> wrote: actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it>[om_namah_shivaya_ group] healingom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comTuesday, April 21, 2009, 6:13 AM  my passion is healing people like I have already said I use mantra "om namah shivaya" a lot in which I truly have feeling in shiva=god for specific healing mantra I use om tayata bekanze bekanze maha bekanze radja sumdgate soha there is a speficic shiva mantra for healing? thanks francesco Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Srinatha Aum Namah Shivaaya I am very much interested in learning healing. Could you tell me how t use this Mantra to heal people and in what kind of healing it is used. I will be grateful to you. With regards Sushma , " N.B. Sriantha " <nbsrinath wrote: > > hi, > > > Use mantra OM BHRIM NAMAH SHIVAYAÂ for healing purpose, > for which type of healing u r doing? u r from? > > thanks, > with regards, > srinatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 The art of healing has been practiced traditionally. Even now one could see in villages ....removal of sprain..scorpion sting,snake sting,insect sting ...poisonous effects are nullified by such traditional practicing people. Try from such sources!? GPS--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Sushma Gupta <sushmajee wrote: Sushma Gupta <sushmajee Re: healing Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 4:44 AM Dear SrinathaAum Namah ShivaayaI am very much interested in learning healing. Could you tell me how t use this Mantra to heal people and in what kind of healing it is used.I will be grateful to you.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "N.B. Sriantha" <nbsrinath@. ..> wrote:>> hi,> > > Use mantra OM BHRIM NAMAH SHIVAYAÂ for healing purpose,> for which type of healing u r doing? u r from?> > thanks,> with regards,> srinatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Aum Namaste SushmaI am sorry to interject yet again but would like to share a few thoughts with you.Firstly I am in no way trying to discourage you from learning healing arts, this is excellent that you would want to do this. However, before you begin these practices there are several things you need to be made are of, so that you can decide how to proceed.1) You need to perform Japa of Lord Ganesha first until the mantra becomes Siddha Reason for this is to remove obstacles from your own body so that you become a clear channel for the energy of the mantra to flow freely, so that your healing works is effective and lasting.2) Next you need to heal yourself first, when you are self healed your work will be more effective. By trying to heal others without being healed yourself will invite trouble as negative vibrations of all kinds will assail you and possibly manifest diseases within you that may not be easy to treat and cure.3) Thridly you need to build your power (by Japa) so that whatever diseased energy you remove from others does not come over to you. If your body is weak, you will acquire this and it will affect you, over time you may manifest these very same diseases !4)) You need to develop a method of protecting your own energy so that you are not affected by the energy of others. This can be done by the making of a Kavacha but there are other methods also that you can use for a more effective/complete protection. I would strongly recommend that you get Diksha of a qualified Siddha guru (who has siddhi of the mantra of your Ishta Devta). By performing Japa of your Ishta Devata prior to healing works you are both protected and your work becomes more effective. There is a double benefit which is that you are also performing good karmic works which will work to your benefit as well. 5) You will observe from what I have written above ( while it may seem repetitive) that you need to be pure, healed, having your own power and protected prior to starting of healing. Take this VERY seriously, I have known a few people who died while trying to cure others because they were not properly taught about these things. There exist a plethora of people who were taught using oral traditions alone but are not aware of the science of Mantras. I also wish to urge you to stick to simple mantras and KNOW what mantra you are using (and its meaning) before use. The safest method I can suggest for you is to use the mantra of your Ishta Devata unless other wise instructed (by Ishta or Guru) Best RegardsNamah SivayaAum--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Sushma Gupta <sushmajee wrote:Sushma Gupta <sushmajee Re: healing Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 4:44 AM Dear Srinatha Aum Namah Shivaaya I am very much interested in learning healing. Could you tell me how t use this Mantra to heal people and in what kind of healing it is used. I will be grateful to you. With regards Sushma om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "N.B. Sriantha" <nbsrinath@. ..> wrote: > > hi, > > > Use mantra OM BHRIM NAMAH SHIVAYAÂ for healing purpose, > for which type of healing u r doing? u r from? > > thanks, > with regards, > srinatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 om gum ganapataye namah is a good mantra of lord ganesha? and om namah shivaya is not a great mantra to build a great energetic field? thanks francesco - Dev Maharaj Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:49 AM Re: Re: healing Aum Namaste SushmaI am sorry to interject yet again but would like to share a few thoughts with you.Firstly I am in no way trying to discourage you from learning healing arts, this is excellent that you would want to do this. However, before you begin these practices there are several things you need to be made are of, so that you can decide how to proceed.1) You need to perform Japa of Lord Ganesha first until the mantra becomes Siddha Reason for this is to remove obstacles from your own body so that you become a clear channel for the energy of the mantra to flow freely, so that your healing works is effective and lasting.2) Next you need to heal yourself first, when you are self healed your work will be more effective. By trying to heal others without being healed yourself will invite trouble as negative vibrations of all kinds will assail you and possibly manifest diseases within you that may not be easy to treat and cure.3) Thridly you need to build your power (by Japa) so that whatever diseased energy you remove from others does not come over to you. If your body is weak, you will acquire this and it will affect you, over time you may manifest these very same diseases !4)) You need to develop a method of protecting your own energy so that you are not affected by the energy of others. This can be done by the making of a Kavacha but there are other methods also that you can use for a more effective/complete protection. I would strongly recommend that you get Diksha of a qualified Siddha guru (who has siddhi of the mantra of your Ishta Devta). By performing Japa of your Ishta Devata prior to healing works you are both protected and your work becomes more effective. There is a double benefit which is that you are also performing good karmic works which will work to your benefit as well. 5) You will observe from what I have written above ( while it may seem repetitive) that you need to be pure, healed, having your own power and protected prior to starting of healing. Take this VERY seriously, I have known a few people who died while trying to cure others because they were not properly taught about these things. There exist a plethora of people who were taught using oral traditions alone but are not aware of the science of Mantras. I also wish to urge you to stick to simple mantras and KNOW what mantra you are using (and its meaning) before use. The safest method I can suggest for you is to use the mantra of your Ishta Devata unless other wise instructed (by Ishta or Guru) Best RegardsNamah SivayaAum--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Sushma Gupta <sushmajee > wrote: Sushma Gupta <sushmajee > Re: healing Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 4:44 AM Dear SrinathaAum Namah ShivaayaI am very much interested in learning healing. Could you tell me how t use this Mantra to heal people and in what kind of healing it is used.I will be grateful to you.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "N.B. Sriantha" <nbsrinath@. ..> wrote:>> hi,> > > Use mantra OM BHRIM NAMAH SHIVAYAÂ for healing purpose,> for which type of healing u r doing? u r from?> > thanks,> with regards,> srinatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Dear Sushmaji, Where are you located and how old are you?I can show the Darshan of Devi Mata?can you travel to Pakistan?You will find the reality of my faith but I have tried healing at my very close relatives which I am rewarded.and also some bad thing which I am rewarded. I wake early at 4/30 AM after finishing my bath etc I start my prayers and go for routine including Shiva Sahser Naam. Regards Assaram--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Sushma Gupta <sushmajee wrote: Sushma Gupta <sushmajee Re: healing Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 4:44 AM Dear SrinathaAum Namah ShivaayaI am very much interested in learning healing. Could you tell me how t use this Mantra to heal people and in what kind of healing it is used.I will be grateful to you.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "N.B. Sriantha" <nbsrinath@. ..> wrote:>> hi,> > > Use mantra OM BHRIM NAMAH SHIVAYAÂ for healing purpose,> for which type of healing u r doing? u r from?> > thanks,> with regards,> srinatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Dev Maharaj Ji Aum Namah Shivaaya Thanks for your kind reply with very encouraging advice to go forward to advance in spirituality. Healing for self or for others is not my main conern. At this stage of my life (at the age of 66), I simply wish that if I could do some spiritual development through your advice with my own limitations and restrictions. I will try my best to follow your advice. I will go through the literature you have suggested to read and when I finish reading it, I will let you know. Thanks a lot for helping me With regards Sushma , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: > > Aum > Namaste Sushma > > I would like you to do the following > 1) on the second link, please read the following articles > > All About Hinduism >      Conquest of Anger >      Conquest of Fear >      Easy Steps to Yoga >      Essence of Yoga >      God Exists >      Karmas and Diseases >      Kundalini Yoga >      Light, Power and Wisdom >      Lord Siva and His Worship >      May I Answer That? >      Mind†" Its Mysteries and Control >      The Philosophy and Significance of Idol Worship >      Practical Lessons In Yoga >      Practice of Brahmacharya >      Practice of Karma Yoga >      The Science of Pranayama >      Thought Power >      Yoga in Daily Life >      > Books by Sri Swami Chidanandaji Maharaj > >      A Guide To Noble Living >      A Message To New Initiates > > 2) You wanted me to tell you something about your self, you wrote " > I am a very straight, pious, soft, polite woman and I do not want my > desired things at every cost. I can suffer myself but I cannot go > against my principles or trouble others. " > > What this indicates to me is that you are not aggressive and that you become offended quickly. You tolerance for pain is quite limited and you probably don't achieve all that you set out to because half way in the process you become disenchanted.(or maybe your principles get in the way). > > You need to understand somethings, life is a very harsh process ! There are many challenges along the way and there is no road map, it is what you make of it. You need to understand that in order to achieve, many times you must endure great pain to come to an understanding of how things truly function. This I believe may be a part of your karmic lesson with arthritis.. To develop strength and power one has to gradually develop tolerance to pain and to endure sacrifices to achieve whatever is desired. > > To this end, your lesson here does not mean that you should engage in Vaamchara practices but that you need focus, determination and discipline to pursue Dakshinachara path, this is what you require to achieve your goal of curing yourself. One normally gets quick results with Vaamchara but the consequences are never explained therfore I very rarely venture to anything connected with it. > > If you expect me to be a soft teacher to accomodate you, while I understand your challenges, I am sorry I am not a soft person and never have been. I am not loud and abrasive but I am quite clear, focused, firm and determined. > > I would be willing to explain to you clearly, precisely and in detail what is required and I expect you to carry out what you are instructed to do as agreed. You will not be required to perform any Vaamchara practices whatsoever. > > Namah Sivaya > Aum > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote: > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee > Re: healing > > Friday, May 15, 2009, 9:35 AM > Dear Dev Maharaj Ji > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > Thanks for your mail. I am unable to open your first link. > > I could open the second link. There are several articles on the intital page. I tried to open a couple of articles, they are long. Should I read them all to have general idea or you want me to read any specific one to have any special knowledge from those articles. > > Thos articles are very good. Before I go through your advised way, I would like to tell me something about me, because one must know about the other person before guiding him/her. > > First of all I would like you to go through the mail message no. 10385. I am a very straight, pious, soft, polite woman and I do not want my desired things at every cost. I can suffer myself but I cannot go against my principles or trouble others. > Everybody has his/her own capacity, capability and ability to do any work. I am limited to Mantra Jaap, recitation of Stotra, reading, keeping fasts etc. Besides I am not comfortable with Taamasik processes or Ugra Roop of any Bhagavaan. For example in Devee Poojaa I like to worship only Lakshmee, Saraswatee and Gauree Devee. In Devtaa I can worship Raam, Krishn, Hanumaan, Shiv (giver of boons), Ganesh etc. I do not want any disturbance from the Deity because of my Poojaa. One should only be pleased with me by doing that Poojaa. > > > > I am sorry for writing this, but this is my nature. I don't even sit with those persons who speak very loudly or quarrel often on small things. > > So if your path conforms this nature, I can proceed. > > Thanks so much. Please do write to me what do you want me to read in those articles - are they general or some specific things > > With regards > > Sushma > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ....> wrote: > > > Aum > > > Namaste Sushma > > Please go to these links to get some preliminary material for your preparation > > > Swami Sivananda - Mantra Yoga > > > http://www.wuala. com/Spiritual/ yoga/books/ Swami Sivananda - MantraYoga.pdf > > > > Other relevant texts > > > http://www.dlshq. org/download/ download. htm > > > Namah Sivaya > > > Aum > > --- On Tue, 5/12/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> > > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: healing > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > > > Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:47 AM > Dear Dev Maharaj Ji > > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > > I will wait for your mail, Sir. > > > I have noted your mails and I agree with you.> > > Thanks a lot > > With due regards > > > Sushma > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ...> wrote: > > > Aum Namaste Sushma > > > > Ok I will, however I need some time to properly guide you with this and I need to write this out carefully. Unfortunately I am EXTREMELY busy with a few projects so I have to delay this for a while. I will get to this as soon as I can, I hope you understand but I have backlogs of stuff from 1 year ago that I need to deal with. Best Regards Namah Sivaya Aum > > > > --- On Mon, 5/11/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: healing > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > > > > Monday, May 11, 2009, 10:34 AM > > > > Dear Dev Maharaj > > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > > > You don't need to be sorry. In fact what I have found that you write very correct whic is very logical too. I have also read the same thing, but when I see other people doing such things, I also desire to do them without any prior requisites. > > > > In one mail somebody wrote that " you can laern from the village healers as how they cure poison of snake, scorpion, and heal other illnesses " , I have replied him the same as you wrote to me that " I was thinking that they should be Siddh in those Mantra, they cannot do just like that. " > > > > I agree with you that first I should do Jap of my Isht Dev Mantra. I read here in these mails soewhere that you have some 25 years experience in Mantra Sadhanaa, would you Sir, kindly guide me at least initially how to start it? I live in USA and have no guidance at all, nor I have a chance to get it from anywhere. > > > > Because of my own arhritis, it is not possible for me to move freely even in my house, I can't thin of traveling anywhere.And you are right, that first I should heel myself so that I can tolerate other's energies. > > > > Let me go step by step - your first point - Jap of Ganesh to make it Siddh - which Mantra and ow to do it? Please guide me. > > > > With due regards > > > Sushma > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ....> wrote: > Aum Namaste Sushma > > I am sorry to interject yet again but would like to share a few thoughts with you. > > > > Firstly I am in no way trying to discourage you from learning healing arts, this is excellent that you would want to do this. However, before you begin these practices there are several things you need to be made are of, so that you can decide how to proceed. > > > 1) You need to perform Japa of Lord Ganesha first until the mantra becomes Siddha >    Reason for this is to remove obstacles from your own body so that you become a clear channel for the energy of the mantra to flow freely, so that your healing works is effective and lasting. > > > 2) Next you need to heal yourself first, when you are self healed your work will be more effective. By trying to heal others without being healed yourself will invite trouble as negative vibrations of all kinds will assail you and possibly manifest diseases within you that may not be easy to treat and cure. > 3) Thridly you need to build your power (by Japa) so that whatever diseased energy you remove from others does not come over to you. If your body is weak, you will acquire this and it will affect you, over time you may manifest these very same diseases ! > 4)) You need to develop a method of protecting your own energy so that you are not affected by the energy of others. This can be done by the making of a Kavacha but there are other methods also that you can use for a more effective/complete protection. I would strongly recommend that you get Diksha of a qualified Siddha guru (who has siddhi of the mantra of your Ishta Devta). By performing Japa of your Ishta Devata prior to healing works you are both protected and your work becomes more effective. There is a double benefit which is that you are also performing good karmic works which will work to your benefit as well. > > > > > 5) You will observe from what I have written above ( while it may seem repetitive) that you need to be pure, healed, having your own power and protected prior to starting of healing. Take this VERY seriously, I have known a few people who died while trying to cure others because they were not properly taught about these things. There exist a plethora of people who were taught using oral traditions alone but are not aware of the science of Mantras. I also wish to urge you to stick to simple mantras and KNOW what mantra you are using (and its meaning) before use. The safest method I can suggest for you is to use the mantra of your Ishta Devata unless other wise instructed (by Ishta or Guru) > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Dear Dev Maharaj Ji Aum Namah Shivaaya I am sorry I am writing this mail to you after some time, but in fact the literature you asked me to red was such good that I cannot read it like a novel. Besides there are some long books also. Till now I have about 9 books and I am still on them. Thanks for introducing me to such a good literature. I think, what I read in that literature, I have been trying to follow the same for some time, but some I have started to follow after reading the literature. With regards Sushma , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > Dear Dev Maharaj Ji > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > Thanks for your kind reply with very encouraging advice to go forward to advance in spirituality. > > Healing for self or for others is not my main conern. At this stage of my life (at the age of 66), I simply wish that if I could do some spiritual development through your advice with my own limitations and restrictions. > > I will try my best to follow your advice. I will go through the literature you have suggested to read and when I finish reading it, I will let you know. > Thanks a lot for helping me > With regards > Sushma > > > > , Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@> wrote: > > > > Aum > > Namaste Sushma > > > > I would like you to do the following > > 1) on the second link, please read the following articles > > > > All About Hinduism > >      Conquest of Anger > >      Conquest of Fear > >      Easy Steps to Yoga > >      Essence of Yoga > >      God Exists > >      Karmas and Diseases > >      Kundalini Yoga > >      Light, Power and Wisdom > >      Lord Siva and His Worship > >      May I Answer That? > >      Mind†" Its Mysteries and Control > >      The Philosophy and Significance of Idol Worship > >      Practical Lessons In Yoga > >      Practice of Brahmacharya > >      Practice of Karma Yoga > >      The Science of Pranayama > >      Thought Power > >      Yoga in Daily Life > >      > > Books by Sri Swami Chidanandaji Maharaj > > > >      A Guide To Noble Living > >      A Message To New Initiates > > > > 2) You wanted me to tell you something about your self, you wrote " > > I am a very straight, pious, soft, polite woman and I do not want my > > desired things at every cost. I can suffer myself but I cannot go > > against my principles or trouble others. " > > > > What this indicates to me is that you are not aggressive and that you become offended quickly. You tolerance for pain is quite limited and you probably don't achieve all that you set out to because half way in the process you become disenchanted.(or maybe your principles get in the way). > > > > You need to understand somethings, life is a very harsh process ! There are many challenges along the way and there is no road map, it is what you make of it. You need to understand that in order to achieve, many times you must endure great pain to come to an understanding of how things truly function. This I believe may be a part of your karmic lesson with arthritis.. To develop strength and power one has to gradually develop tolerance to pain and to endure sacrifices to achieve whatever is desired. > > > > To this end, your lesson here does not mean that you should engage in Vaamchara practices but that you need focus, determination and discipline to pursue Dakshinachara path, this is what you require to achieve your goal of curing yourself. One normally gets quick results with Vaamchara but the consequences are never explained therfore I very rarely venture to anything connected with it. > > > > If you expect me to be a soft teacher to accomodate you, while I understand your challenges, I am sorry I am not a soft person and never have been. I am not loud and abrasive but I am quite clear, focused, firm and determined. > > > > I would be willing to explain to you clearly, precisely and in detail what is required and I expect you to carry out what you are instructed to do as agreed. You will not be required to perform any Vaamchara practices whatsoever. > > > > Namah Sivaya > > Aum > > > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@> wrote: > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@> > > Re: healing > > > > Friday, May 15, 2009, 9:35 AM > > > Dear Dev Maharaj Ji > > > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > > > Thanks for your mail. I am unable to open your first link. > > > > I could open the second link. There are several articles on the intital page. I tried to open a couple of articles, they are long. Should I read them all to have general idea or you want me to read any specific one to have any special knowledge from those articles. > > > > Thos articles are very good. Before I go through your advised way, I would like to tell me something about me, because one must know about the other person before guiding him/her. > > > > First of all I would like you to go through the mail message no. 10385. I am a very straight, pious, soft, polite woman and I do not want my desired things at every cost. I can suffer myself but I cannot go against my principles or trouble others. > > > Everybody has his/her own capacity, capability and ability to do any work. I am limited to Mantra Jaap, recitation of Stotra, reading, keeping fasts etc. Besides I am not comfortable with Taamasik processes or Ugra Roop of any Bhagavaan. For example in Devee Poojaa I like to worship only Lakshmee, Saraswatee and Gauree Devee. In Devtaa I can worship Raam, Krishn, Hanumaan, Shiv (giver of boons), Ganesh etc. I do not want any disturbance from the Deity because of my Poojaa. One should only be pleased with me by doing that Poojaa. > > > > > > > > I am sorry for writing this, but this is my nature. I don't even sit with those persons who speak very loudly or quarrel often on small things. > > > > > So if your path conforms this nature, I can proceed. > > > > Thanks so much. Please do write to me what do you want me to read in those articles - are they general or some specific things > > > > With regards > > > > Sushma > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ....> wrote: > > > > > Aum > > > > > Namaste Sushma > > > > Please go to these links to get some preliminary material for your preparation > > > > > Swami Sivananda - Mantra Yoga > > > > > http://www.wuala. com/Spiritual/ yoga/books/ Swami Sivananda - MantraYoga.pdf > > > > > > > > Other relevant texts > > > > > http://www.dlshq. org/download/ download. htm > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > Aum > > > > --- On Tue, 5/12/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> > > > > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: healing > > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > > > > > Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:47 AM > > > Dear Dev Maharaj Ji > > > > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > > > > I will wait for your mail, Sir. > > > > > I have noted your mails and I agree with you.> > > > Thanks a lot > > > With due regards > > > > > Sushma > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ....> wrote: > > > > > Aum > Namaste Sushma > > > > > > Ok I will, however I need some time to properly guide you with this and I need to write this out carefully. Unfortunately I am EXTREMELY busy with a few projects so I have to delay this for a while. I will get to this as soon as I can, I hope you understand but I have backlogs of stuff from 1 year ago that I need to deal with. > > Best Regards > Namah Sivaya > Aum > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 5/11/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> > > > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: healing > > > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > > > > > > Monday, May 11, 2009, 10:34 AM > > > > > > Dear Dev Maharaj > > > > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > > > > > You don't need to be sorry. In fact what I have found that you write very correct whic is very logical too. I have also read the same thing, but when I see other people doing such things, I also desire to do them without any prior requisites. > > > > > > In one mail somebody wrote that " you can laern from the village healers as how they cure poison of snake, scorpion, and heal other illnesses " , I have replied him the same as you wrote to me that " I was thinking that they should be Siddh in those Mantra, they cannot do just like that. " > > > > > > I agree with you that first I should do Jap of my Isht Dev Mantra. I read here in these mails soewhere that you have some 25 years experience in Mantra Sadhanaa, would you Sir, kindly guide me at least initially how to start it? I live in USA and have no guidance at all, nor I have a chance to get it from anywhere. > > > > > > Because of my own arhritis, it is not possible for me to move freely even in my house, I can't thin of traveling anywhere.And you are right, that first I should heel myself so that I can tolerate other's energies. > > > > > > Let me go step by step - your first point - Jap of Ganesh to make it Siddh - which Mantra and ow to do it? Please guide me. > > > > > > With due regards > > > > > Sushma > > > > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ...> wrote: > > > Aum > Namaste Sushma > > > > I am sorry to interject yet again but would like to share a few thoughts with you. > > > > > > Firstly I am in no way trying to discourage you from learning healing arts, this is excellent that you would want to do this. However, before you begin these practices there are several things you need to be made are of, so that you can decide how to proceed. > > > > > 1) You need to perform Japa of Lord Ganesha first until the mantra becomes Siddha > > >    Reason for this is to remove obstacles from your own body so that you become a clear channel for the energy of the mantra to flow freely, so that your healing works is effective and lasting. > > > > > 2) Next you need to heal yourself first, when you are self healed your work will be more effective. By trying to heal others without being healed yourself will invite trouble as negative vibrations of all kinds will assail you and possibly manifest diseases within you that may not be easy to treat and cure. > > > 3) Thridly you need to build your power (by Japa) so that whatever diseased energy you remove from others does not come over to you. If your body is weak, you will acquire this and it will affect you, over time you may manifest these very same diseases ! > > > 4)) You need to develop a method of protecting your own energy so that you are not affected by the energy of others. This can be done by the making of a Kavacha but there are other methods also that you can use for a more effective/complete protection. I would strongly recommend that you get Diksha of a qualified Siddha guru (who has siddhi of the mantra of your Ishta Devta). By performing Japa of your Ishta Devata prior to healing works you are both protected and your work becomes more effective. There is a double benefit which is that you are also performing good karmic works which will work to your benefit as well. > > > > > > > 5) You will observe from what I have written above ( while it may seem repetitive) that you need to be pure, healed, having your own power and protected prior to starting of healing. Take this VERY seriously, I have known a few people who died while trying to cure others because they were not properly taught about these things. There exist a plethora of people who were taught using oral traditions alone but are not aware of the science of Mantras. I also wish to urge you to stick to simple mantras and KNOW what mantra you are using (and its meaning) before use. The safest method I can suggest for you is to use the mantra of your Ishta Devata unless other wise instructed (by Ishta or Guru) > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > Aum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 AumYou are welcome, very glad to know that you are enjoying reading this material.Namah SivayaAum--- On Fri, 6/12/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee Re: healing Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 5:55 AM Dear Dev Maharaj Ji Aum Namah Shivaaya I am sorry I am writing this mail to you after some time, but in fact the literature you asked me to red was such good that I cannot read it like a novel. Besides there are some long books also. Till now I have about 9 books and I am still on them. Thanks for introducing me to such a good literature. I think, what I read in that literature, I have been trying to follow the same for some time, but some I have started to follow after reading the literature. With regards Sushma om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "bhagvatjee" <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Dev Maharaj Ji > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > Thanks for your kind reply with very encouraging advice to go forward to advance in spirituality. > > Healing for self or for others is not my main conern. At this stage of my life (at the age of 66), I simply wish that if I could do some spiritual development through your advice with my own limitations and restrictions. > > I will try my best to follow your advice. I will go through the literature you have suggested to read and when I finish reading it, I will let you know. > Thanks a lot for helping me > With regards > Sushma > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ > wrote: > > > > Aum > > Namaste Sushma > > > > I would like you to do the following > > 1) on the second link, please read the following articles > > > > All About Hinduism > >      Conquest of Anger > >      Conquest of Fear > >      Easy Steps to Yoga > >      Essence of Yoga > >      God Exists > >      Karmas and Diseases > >      Kundalini Yoga > >      Light, Power and Wisdom > >      Lord Siva and His Worship > >      May I Answer That? > >      Mindâ€"Its Mysteries and Control > >      The Philosophy and Significance of Idol Worship > >      Practical Lessons In Yoga > >      Practice of Brahmacharya > >      Practice of Karma Yoga > >      The Science of Pranayama > >      Thought Power > >      Yoga in Daily Life > >      > > Books by Sri Swami Chidanandaji Maharaj > > > >      A Guide To Noble Living > >      A Message To New Initiates > > > > 2) You wanted me to tell you something about your self, you wrote " > > I am a very straight, pious, soft, polite woman and I do not want my > > desired things at every cost. I can suffer myself but I cannot go > > against my principles or trouble others." > > > > What this indicates to me is that you are not aggressive and that you become offended quickly. You tolerance for pain is quite limited and you probably don't achieve all that you set out to because half way in the process you become disenchanted. (or maybe your principles get in the way). > > > > You need to understand somethings, life is a very harsh process ! There are many challenges along the way and there is no road map, it is what you make of it. You need to understand that in order to achieve, many times you must endure great pain to come to an understanding of how things truly function. This I believe may be a part of your karmic lesson with arthritis.. To develop strength and power one has to gradually develop tolerance to pain and to endure sacrifices to achieve whatever is desired. > > > > To this end, your lesson here does not mean that you should engage in Vaamchara practices but that you need focus, determination and discipline to pursue Dakshinachara path, this is what you require to achieve your goal of curing yourself. One normally gets quick results with Vaamchara but the consequences are never explained therfore I very rarely venture to anything connected with it. > > > > If you expect me to be a soft teacher to accomodate you, while I understand your challenges, I am sorry I am not a soft person and never have been. I am not loud and abrasive but I am quite clear, focused, firm and determined. > > > > I would be willing to explain to you clearly, precisely and in detail what is required and I expect you to carry out what you are instructed to do as agreed. You will not be required to perform any Vaamchara practices whatsoever. > > > > Namah Sivaya > > Aum > > > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ > wrote: > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ > > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: healing > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > > Friday, May 15, 2009, 9:35 AM > > > Dear Dev Maharaj Ji > > > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > > > Thanks for your mail. I am unable to open your first link. > > > > I could open the second link. There are several articles on the intital page. I tried to open a couple of articles, they are long. Should I read them all to have general idea or you want me to read any specific one to have any special knowledge from those articles. > > > > Thos articles are very good. Before I go through your advised way, I would like to tell me something about me, because one must know about the other person before guiding him/her. > > > > First of all I would like you to go through the mail message no. 10385. I am a very straight, pious, soft, polite woman and I do not want my desired things at every cost. I can suffer myself but I cannot go against my principles or trouble others. > > > Everybody has his/her own capacity, capability and ability to do any work. I am limited to Mantra Jaap, recitation of Stotra, reading, keeping fasts etc. Besides I am not comfortable with Taamasik processes or Ugra Roop of any Bhagavaan. For example in Devee Poojaa I like to worship only Lakshmee, Saraswatee and Gauree Devee. In Devtaa I can worship Raam, Krishn, Hanumaan, Shiv (giver of boons), Ganesh etc. I do not want any disturbance from the Deity because of my Poojaa. One should only be pleased with me by doing that Poojaa. > > > > > > > > I am sorry for writing this, but this is my nature. I don't even sit with those persons who speak very loudly or quarrel often on small things. > > > > > So if your path conforms this nature, I can proceed. > > > > Thanks so much. Please do write to me what do you want me to read in those articles - are they general or some specific things > > > > With regards > > > > Sushma > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > Aum > > > > > Namaste Sushma > > > > Please go to these links to get some preliminary material for your preparation > > > > > Swami Sivananda - Mantra Yoga > > > > > http://www.wuala. com/Spiritual/ yoga/books/ Swami Sivananda - MantraYoga.pdf > > > > > > > > Other relevant texts > > > > > http://www.dlshq. org/download/ download. htm > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > Aum > > > > --- On Tue, 5/12/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> > > > > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: healing > > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > > > > > Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:47 AM > > > Dear Dev Maharaj Ji > > > > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > > > > I will wait for your mail, Sir. > > > > > I have noted your mails and I agree with you.> > > > Thanks a lot > > > With due regards > > > > > Sushma > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > Aum > Namaste Sushma > > > > > > Ok I will, however I need some time to properly guide you with this and I need to write this out carefully. Unfortunately I am EXTREMELY busy with a few projects so I have to delay this for a while. I will get to this as soon as I can, I hope you understand but I have backlogs of stuff from 1 year ago that I need to deal with. > > Best Regards > Namah Sivaya > Aum > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 5/11/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> > > > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: healing > > > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > > > > > > Monday, May 11, 2009, 10:34 AM > > > > > > Dear Dev Maharaj > > > > > Aum Namah Shivaaya > > > > > > You don't need to be sorry. In fact what I have found that you write very correct whic is very logical too. I have also read the same thing, but when I see other people doing such things, I also desire to do them without any prior requisites. > > > > > > In one mail somebody wrote that "you can laern from the village healers as how they cure poison of snake, scorpion, and heal other illnesses", I have replied him the same as you wrote to me that "I was thinking that they should be Siddh in those Mantra, they cannot do just like that." > > > > > > I agree with you that first I should do Jap of my Isht Dev Mantra. I read here in these mails soewhere that you have some 25 years experience in Mantra Sadhanaa, would you Sir, kindly guide me at least initially how to start it? I live in USA and have no guidance at all, nor I have a chance to get it from anywhere. > > > > > > Because of my own arhritis, it is not possible for me to move freely even in my house, I can't thin of traveling anywhere.And you are right, that first I should heel myself so that I can tolerate other's energies. > > > > > > Let me go step by step - your first point - Jap of Ganesh to make it Siddh - which Mantra and ow to do it? Please guide me. > > > > > > With due regards > > > > > Sushma > > > > > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj@ ...> wrote: > > > Aum > Namaste Sushma > > > > I am sorry to interject yet again but would like to share a few thoughts with you. > > > > > > Firstly I am in no way trying to discourage you from learning healing arts, this is excellent that you would want to do this. However, before you begin these practices there are several things you need to be made are of, so that you can decide how to proceed. > > > > > 1) You need to perform Japa of Lord Ganesha first until the mantra becomes Siddha > > >    Reason for this is to remove obstacles from your own body so that you become a clear channel for the energy of the mantra to flow freely, so that your healing works is effective and lasting. > > > > > 2) Next you need to heal yourself first, when you are self healed your work will be more effective. By trying to heal others without being healed yourself will invite trouble as negative vibrations of all kinds will assail you and possibly manifest diseases within you that may not be easy to treat and cure. > > > 3) Thridly you need to build your power (by Japa) so that whatever diseased energy you remove from others does not come over to you. If your body is weak, you will acquire this and it will affect you, over time you may manifest these very same diseases ! > > > 4)) You need to develop a method of protecting your own energy so that you are not affected by the energy of others. This can be done by the making of a Kavacha but there are other methods also that you can use for a more effective/complete protection. I would strongly recommend that you get Diksha of a qualified Siddha guru (who has siddhi of the mantra of your Ishta Devta). By performing Japa of your Ishta Devata prior to healing works you are both protected and your work becomes more effective. There is a double benefit which is that you are also performing good karmic works which will work to your benefit as well. > > > > > > > 5) You will observe from what I have written above ( while it may seem repetitive) that you need to be pure, healed, having your own power and protected prior to starting of healing. Take this VERY seriously, I have known a few people who died while trying to cure others because they were not properly taught about these things. There exist a plethora of people who were taught using oral traditions alone but are not aware of the science of Mantras. I also wish to urge you to stick to simple mantras and KNOW what mantra you are using (and its meaning) before use. The safest method I can suggest for you is to use the mantra of your Ishta Devata unless other wise instructed (by Ishta or Guru) > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > Aum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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