mantra sadhana

June 18, 2009

HI All,

Some more rules for Upasana:

Upasaka should not cut and comb his hair, beard and nails (for most of mantras).

He is restricted not to wear shoes or cheppels, jewels, perfumes....

He should not see his image in mirror.

Must sleep on floor(except for some saktheya mantras).

For some mantras he must be brahmachari(depends on Sampradaya). Some mantras he should not think about other ladies , but for some he should use other ladies.

He should not sleep in the afternoon.

He cannot scold others. Less talking and always the mantra inword chanting.

He cant stop deeksha or japa as per his samkalpa. If samkalpa is broken again he needs to start from scratch(Lets someone started to do 1lakh for 45days, he cant stop until the samkalpa is completed). If it is so he needs prayastchittam.

For some mantras he is restricted to cross the rivers and oceans.

What ever the mantra if you are not chanting for continuous 5 days, need again upadesa.

Even if a person it not doing Sandhyavandana for 3 continuous days he needs again thread marriage. At least he has to do minimum number of mantra chant like 11, 21, 64,108.....

For upasakas eating cucumber will help to increase spiritual powers in him(Bhuta Damram, Uddesa tantras).

And many many more are there.

Viswamitra done great tapa of gayatri and at last he lost his patience. and cursed gayatri. Even the same happened in case of Brahma and vasista also. There are chanted after Uttara mudras of gayatri. For chanting these mantras need a guru.

These are mentioned in Viswamitra kalpa and Gayatri upasana sarwaswa.

The attached PDF curtesy of amba.org.

Thank you

Narasimha--- On Tue, 6/16/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee Re: swarna akarshana mantra sadhana Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 9:28 AM

Many many thanks Narasimha JiOne question more Sir. Somebody wrote that Gaayatree Mantra is crsed by three Devtaa - Brahmaa, Vashishth and Vishwaamitra (I think) and therefore after chanting it one must recite three Shaap Vimochan Mantra. ON asking he refused to tell further in this regard.What is your opinion? There are so many Gaayatree Dhaam are open now a days and in those Aashram, millions of people are reciting Gaayatree Mantra, but I have never seen anyb ody reciting Shaap Vimochan Mantra nor heard talking about this.Thanks again for such an elaborate explanationWith regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@. ..> wrote:>> Hi, > Mantra Number

> It depends on Mantra, lets take one Shiva mantra, Its mantra siddhi number is one lakh, but it depends on yuga, this is Kaliyuga its 4 lakhs. all these will be mentioned in the tantra or samhithas. or you will get from guru.> > Mantra Timings> Usually the mantra chant has to be done in early monrning. For some vaama chara cults it be may be midnight. In some cults Mahalakshmi, Swarna karshana Bhairava and Neela Saraswathi chant will be midnight. Even day also differs, for some Purnami, Amavasya and so on.... > > Mantra chant> Must be in a regular passion, I mean dialy 1000 times , upto completion of 1 lakh without fail. (Number may be differs like 108, 1000, 2000 ...but the same number you have to do dialy)> > Chanting Place> It is defined by the Guru, for some mantras upasaka has to stand it a water stream. Upasaka has to sit in mountain peak or

banks of rivers or temple or guru charanam or atleast in own house. > > Aaasana > Aasana is also specified by Guru on your capacity. For all mantras Darbhasana. For some vaishana mantras it is Peetambaram. Depends on your mental stamina they may suggest krishnajina or Vyaghrajina( Skin of deer and Tiger). For some vaama charas they will suggest Pancha preathasana and savasana. > * Rule : For Kirshnajina and Vyagrajinas shuld not have any holes or damages (Mean hunted animals skin shuold not be used).> Food Habbits > For mantras onion, masala and garlic are restricted. Ofcourse nonveg, egg also. For vaamachara and panchamakara upasanas upasaka has to eat fish dialy.> Mantra Parts > Each mantra whtever it may be, you have to do with saptangas. Other wise it like asking help from PHC. For every mantra saptangas(7 parts will be there)> 1. Rushi : author of the mantra> 2.Chandassu:

Chanting pronunciation> 3.Devatha : To whom it is addressed (GOD name) > 4.kamyam : purpose> 5.Anganyasam: (It varies from mantra to mantra)> 6.Pancha puja( Gandham, Pushpam, Dhupam, Deepam, naivedyam, Tambulam).> 7.Arpanam: Chant is giving to GOD.> Mantra Mudras > It differs from mantra to another mantras. There are expressed before and after mantra chanting.> Mantra Homa> Whtever tha mantra number chanted, dasamsam homa has to perform(offering to Fire). Homa dravya depends on devatha. Like for some saivite mantras thilams, Ghee, for Mahalakshmi Lotus.....> Mantra Tarpanam> dropping water or something for GOD.> > Mantra Saapa Vimochana mantra> For some mantras Saapas will be there, after japa we have to do the saapa vimochana mantra japa.> > thank you > Narasimha > --- On Fri, 6/12/09,

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: swarna akarshana mantra sadhana> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Friday, June 12, 2009, 5:46 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Narasimha Rao Ji> Aum Namah Shivaaya> It is an eye opening mail, thanks for it.> Wuld you be kind enough to write something about Saadhanaa of a Mantra - > as how many chants in how many days should be done? > at what time the chant should be done?> what restrictions of any kind should be followed while doing this?> And any other thing to follow which I

have forgotten to ask...> > I will be very grateful> Thanks a lot> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi, > > I am requesting you guys, please a mantra means not just chanting, for that a good day must be there. For every mantra some rules and chanting ways are there. Like aasana, japa mala, chant number, chanting sequence per day, after chanting the number what to do and so on...> > Not only above, each mantra is having lot of meanings, it may look like something , but the real mean may be diffrent. > > Moreover the person who is giving mantra , has to comeplete some siddhi(means he has to complete specified number of chanting, homa, tarpana, vitharana and all) I dnt know about the posted person's spritual capacity to give

a Maha mantra of BHAIRAVA to a very very open forum. The next day onwards guru will take good or bad result 50% for each chanting. Thats why guru is very very respectful person.> > In each sampradaya, the each beejakshara of amntra.Sampradaya will change and everything, like aasana , japa mala, upasana vidhana , even eating habbits, mantra chanting timings, number of chantings and so on...> > Especially the below mantra is from Swarnakarshana Bhairava Tantra, a extract from Oldest Rudrayamala purva tantra. Rudrayamala tantra is the tantra ancient to even Rig veda. > > So please donot do any copy paste job. Post above full details including sampradaya.> > If any mistakes please excuse me.> > Thank you,> > Narasimha>

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gAyatrI_shApa_vimochanam.pdf

June 20, 2009

Dear Narasimha Rao Ji

Thanks very much for replying my mail and giving the Shaap Vimochan Mantra also.

So after doing the Jaap of Gayatri Mantra one should read these three texts only

once for better effects of Gayatri worship?

Sir, my one question still remains unanswered that these so many Gayatri Dhaam

are chanting Gayatri Mantra and are asking others to chant this Mantra, but they

are not telling them to recite the Shaap Vimochan Mantra, why? and I think most

people do not know about it. When I read it first I was shocked that such a

popular Vaidik Mantra can have curse on it. Is this OK to chant Gayatri Mantra

like this, I mean without Shaap Vimochan Mantra, if it is cursed by three

people?

The second thing arose in my mind after reading your mail that it shows that

then Gayatri must be very difficult Devee, so that even such great Rishi like

Vishwaamitra and Vashishth and even Bhagavaan Brahmaa were also angry at not

being her pleased with their Tap and they had to curse her. While now a days

this Gayatri movement is so popular and visible in India that one cannot think

of these happenings. What is the truth in this movement?

With regards

Sushma

, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6 wrote:

>

> HI All,

> Some more rules for Upasana:

> Upasaka should not cut and comb his hair, beard and nails (for most of

mantras).

> He is restricted not to wear shoes or cheppels, jewels, perfumes....

> He should not see his image in mirror.

> Must sleep on floor(except for some saktheya mantras).

> For some mantras he must be brahmachari(depends on Sampradaya). Some mantras

he should not think about other ladies , but for some he should use other

ladies.

> He should not sleep in the afternoon.

> He cannot scold others. Less talking and always the mantra inword chanting.

> He cant stop deeksha or japa as per his samkalpa. If samkalpa is broken again

he needs to start from scratch(Lets someone started to do 1lakh for 45days, he

cant stop until the samkalpa is completed). If it is so he needs prayastchittam.

> For some mantras he is restricted to cross the rivers and oceans.

> What ever the mantra if you are not chanting for continuous 5 days, need

again upadesa.

> Even if a person it not doing Sandhyavandana for 3 continuous days he needs

again thread marriage. At least he has to do minimum number of mantra chant like

11, 21, 64,108.....

> For upasakas eating cucumber will help to increase spiritual powers in

him(Bhuta Damram, Uddesa tantras).

> And many many more are there.

>

> Viswamitra done great tapa of gayatri and at last he lost his patience. and

cursed gayatri. Even the same happened in case of Brahma and vasista also. There

are chanted after Uttara mudras of gayatri. For chanting these mantras need a

guru.

> These are mentioned in Viswamitra kalpa and Gayatri upasana sarwaswa.

> The attached PDF curtesy of amba.org.

> Thank you

> Narasimha

>

> --- On Tue, 6/16/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:

>

> bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee

> Re: swarna akarshana mantra sadhana

>

> Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 9:28 AM

>

Many many thanks Narasimha Ji

> One question more Sir. Somebody wrote that Gaayatree Mantra is crsed by three

Devtaa - Brahmaa, Vashishth and Vishwaamitra (I think) and therefore after

chanting it one must recite three Shaap Vimochan Mantra. ON asking he refused to

tell further in this regard.

>

> What is your opinion? There are so many Gaayatree Dhaam are open now a days

and in those Aashram, millions of people are reciting Gaayatree Mantra, but I

have never seen anyb ody reciting Shaap Vimochan Mantra nor heard talking about

this.

> Thanks again for such an elaborate explanation

> With regards

> Sushma

>

> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> > Mantra Number

> > It depends on Mantra, lets take one Shiva mantra, Its mantra siddhi number

is one lakh, but it depends on yuga, this is Kaliyuga its 4 lakhs. all these

will be mentioned in the tantra or samhithas. or you will get from guru.

> >

> > Mantra Timings

> > Usually the mantra chant has to be done in early monrning. For some vaama

chara cults it be may be midnight. In some cults Mahalakshmi, Swarna karshana

Bhairava and Neela Saraswathi chant will be midnight. Even day also differs, for

some Purnami, Amavasya and so on....

> >

> > Mantra chant

> > Must be in a regular passion, I mean dialy 1000 times , upto completion of 1

lakh without fail. (Number may be differs like 108, 1000, 2000 ...but the same

number you have to do dialy)

> >

> > Chanting Place

> > It is defined by the Guru, for some mantras upasaka has to stand it a water

stream. Upasaka has to sit in mountain peak or banks of rivers or temple or guru

charanam or atleast in own house.

> >

> > Aaasana

> > Aasana is also specified by Guru on your capacity. For all mantras

Darbhasana. For some vaishana mantras it is Peetambaram. Depends on your mental

stamina they may suggest krishnajina or Vyaghrajina( Skin of deer and Tiger).

For some vaama charas they will suggest Pancha preathasana and savasana.

> > * Rule : For Kirshnajina and Vyagrajinas shuld not have any holes or damages

(Mean hunted animals skin shuold not be used).

> > Food Habbits

> > For mantras onion, masala and garlic are restricted. Ofcourse nonveg, egg

also. For vaamachara and panchamakara upasanas upasaka has to eat fish dialy.

> > Mantra Parts

> > Each mantra whtever it may be, you have to do with saptangas. Other wise it

like asking help from PHC. For every mantra saptangas(7 parts will be there)

> > 1. Rushi : author of the mantra

> > 2.Chandassu: Chanting pronunciation

> > 3.Devatha : To whom it is addressed (GOD name)

> > 4.kamyam : purpose

> > 5.Anganyasam: (It varies from mantra to mantra)

> > 6.Pancha puja( Gandham, Pushpam, Dhupam, Deepam, naivedyam, Tambulam).

> > 7.Arpanam: Chant is giving to GOD.

> > Mantra Mudras

> > It differs from mantra to another mantras. There are expressed before and

after mantra chanting.

> > Mantra Homa

> > Whtever tha mantra number chanted, dasamsam homa has to perform(offering to

Fire). Homa dravya depends on devatha. Like for some saivite mantras thilams,

Ghee, for Mahalakshmi Lotus.....

> > Mantra Tarpanam

> > dropping water or something for GOD.

> >

> > Mantra Saapa Vimochana mantra

> > For some mantras Saapas will be there, after japa we have to do the saapa

vimochana mantra japa.

> >

> > thank you

> > Narasimha

> > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>

> > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: swarna akarshana mantra sadhana

> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

> > Friday, June 12, 2009, 5:46 AM

> >

> > Dear Shri Narasimha Rao Ji

> > Aum Namah Shivaaya

> > It is an eye opening mail, thanks for it.

> > Wuld you be kind enough to write something about Saadhanaa of a Mantra -

> > as how many chants in how many days should be done?

> > at what time the chant should be done?

> > what restrictions of any kind should be followed while doing this?

> > And any other thing to follow which I have forgotten to ask...

> >

> > I will be very grateful

> > Thanks a lot

> > Sushma

> >

> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I am requesting you guys, please a mantra means not just chanting, for

that a good day must be there. For every mantra some rules and chanting ways are

there. Like aasana, japa mala, chant number, chanting sequence per day,

after chanting the number what to do and so on...

> > > Not only above, each mantra is having lot of meanings, it may look like

something , but the real mean may be diffrent.

> > > Moreover the person who is giving mantra , has to comeplete some

siddhi(means he has to complete specified number of chanting, homa, tarpana,

vitharana and all) I dnt know about the posted person's spritual capacity to

give a Maha mantra of BHAIRAVA to a very very open forum. The next day onwards

guru will take good or bad result 50% for each chanting. Thats why guru is very

very respectful person.

> > > In each sampradaya, the each beejakshara of amntra.Sampradaya will change

and everything, like aasana , japa mala, upasana vidhana , even eating habbits,

mantra chanting timings, number of chantings and so on...

> > > Especially the below mantra is from Swarnakarshana Bhairava Tantra,

a extract from Oldest Rudrayamala purva tantra. Rudrayamala tantra is the tantra

ancient to even Rig veda.

> > > So please donot do any copy paste job. Post above full details including

sampradaya.

> > > If any mistakes please excuse me.

> > > Thank you,

> > > Narasimha

> >

>

June 20, 2009

Dear Narsimha ji ,

Gayatri mantra is considered the highest and greatest mantra in all 4 Vedas. If

you claim that there is a shaap on that mantra then you need to furnish Vedic

proof. Only Veda can describe Gayatri . In the hierarchy of our scriptures, the

4 Vedas are highest, followed by smriti shastra and Puranas. So if you say

anything about Gayatri mantra, it has to come from the Vedas.

with regards,

Shailendra

, " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee

wrote:

>

> Dear Narasimha Rao Ji

> Thanks very much for replying my mail and giving the Shaap Vimochan Mantra

also. So after doing the Jaap of Gayatri Mantra one should read these three

texts only once for better effects of Gayatri worship?

>

> Sir, my one question still remains unanswered that these so many Gayatri Dhaam

are chanting Gayatri Mantra and are asking others to chant this Mantra, but they

are not telling them to recite the Shaap Vimochan Mantra, why? and I think most

people do not know about it. When I read it first I was shocked that such a

popular Vaidik Mantra can have curse on it. Is this OK to chant Gayatri Mantra

like this, I mean without Shaap Vimochan Mantra, if it is cursed by three

people?

>

> The second thing arose in my mind after reading your mail that it shows that

then Gayatri must be very difficult Devee, so that even such great Rishi like

Vishwaamitra and Vashishth and even Bhagavaan Brahmaa were also angry at not

being her pleased with their Tap and they had to curse her. While now a days

this Gayatri movement is so popular and visible in India that one cannot think

of these happenings. What is the truth in this movement?

>

> With regards

> Sushma

>

> , " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6@> wrote:

> >

> > HI All,

> > Some more rules for Upasana:

> > Upasaka should not cut and comb his hair, beard and nails (for most of

mantras).

> > He is restricted not to wear shoes or cheppels, jewels, perfumes....

> > He should not see his image in mirror.

> > Must sleep on floor(except for some saktheya mantras).

> > For some mantras he must be brahmachari(depends on Sampradaya). Some mantras

he should not think about other ladies , but for some he should use other

ladies.

> > He should not sleep in the afternoon.

> > He cannot scold others. Less talking and always the mantra inword chanting.

> > He cant stop deeksha or japa as per his samkalpa. If samkalpa is broken

again he needs to start from scratch(Lets someone started to do 1lakh for

45days, he cant stop until the samkalpa is completed). If it is so he needs

prayastchittam.

> > For some mantras he is restricted to cross the rivers and oceans.

> > What ever the mantra if you are not chanting for continuous 5 days, need

again upadesa.

> > Even if a person it not doing Sandhyavandana for 3 continuous days he needs

again thread marriage. At least he has to do minimum number of mantra chant like

11, 21, 64,108.....

> > For upasakas eating cucumber will help to increase spiritual powers in

him(Bhuta Damram, Uddesa tantras).

> > And many many more are there.

> >

> > Viswamitra done great tapa of gayatri and at last he lost his patience. and

cursed gayatri. Even the same happened in case of Brahma and vasista also. There

are chanted after Uttara mudras of gayatri. For chanting these mantras need a

guru.

> > These are mentioned in Viswamitra kalpa and Gayatri upasana sarwaswa.

> > The attached PDF curtesy of amba.org.

> > Thank you

> > Narasimha

> >

> > --- On Tue, 6/16/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@> wrote:

> >

> > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@>

> > Re: swarna akarshana mantra sadhana

> >

> > Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 9:28 AM

> >

> > Many many thanks Narasimha Ji

> > One question more Sir. Somebody wrote that Gaayatree Mantra is crsed by

three Devtaa - Brahmaa, Vashishth and Vishwaamitra (I think) and therefore after

chanting it one must recite three Shaap Vimochan Mantra. ON asking he refused to

tell further in this regard.

> >

> > What is your opinion? There are so many Gaayatree Dhaam are open now a days

and in those Aashram, millions of people are reciting Gaayatree Mantra, but I

have never seen anyb ody reciting Shaap Vimochan Mantra nor heard talking about

this.

> > Thanks again for such an elaborate explanation

> > With regards

> > Sushma

> >

> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > Mantra Number

> > > It depends on Mantra, lets take one Shiva mantra, Its mantra siddhi

number is one lakh, but it depends on yuga, this is Kaliyuga its 4 lakhs. all

these will be mentioned in the tantra or samhithas. or you will get from guru.

> > >

> > > Mantra Timings

> > > Usually the mantra chant has to be done in early monrning. For some vaama

chara cults it be may be midnight. In some cults Mahalakshmi, Swarna karshana

Bhairava and Neela Saraswathi chant will be midnight. Even day also differs, for

some Purnami, Amavasya and so on....

> > >

> > > Mantra chant

> > > Must be in a regular passion, I mean dialy 1000 times , upto completion of

1 lakh without fail. (Number may be differs like 108, 1000, 2000 ...but the same

number you have to do dialy)

> > >

> > > Chanting Place

> > > It is defined by the Guru, for some mantras upasaka has to stand it a

water stream. Upasaka has to sit in mountain peak or banks of rivers or temple

or guru charanam or atleast in own house.

> > >

> > > Aaasana

> > > Aasana is also specified by Guru on your capacity. For all mantras

Darbhasana. For some vaishana mantras it is Peetambaram. Depends on your mental

stamina they may suggest krishnajina or Vyaghrajina( Skin of deer and Tiger).

For some vaama charas they will suggest Pancha preathasana and savasana.

> > > * Rule : For Kirshnajina and Vyagrajinas shuld not have any holes or

damages (Mean hunted animals skin shuold not be used).

> > > Food Habbits

> > > For mantras onion, masala and garlic are restricted. Ofcourse nonveg, egg

also. For vaamachara and panchamakara upasanas upasaka has to eat fish dialy.

> > > Mantra Parts

> > > Each mantra whtever it may be, you have to do with saptangas. Other wise

it like asking help from PHC. For every mantra saptangas(7 parts will be there)

> > > 1. Rushi : author of the mantra

> > > 2.Chandassu: Chanting pronunciation

> > > 3.Devatha : To whom it is addressed (GOD name)

> > > 4.kamyam : purpose

> > > 5.Anganyasam: (It varies from mantra to mantra)

> > > 6.Pancha puja( Gandham, Pushpam, Dhupam, Deepam, naivedyam, Tambulam).

> > > 7.Arpanam: Chant is giving to GOD.

> > > Mantra Mudras

> > > It differs from mantra to another mantras. There are expressed before and

after mantra chanting.

> > > Mantra Homa

> > > Whtever tha mantra number chanted, dasamsam homa has to perform(offering

to Fire). Homa dravya depends on devatha. Like for some saivite mantras thilams,

Ghee, for Mahalakshmi Lotus.....

> > > Mantra Tarpanam

> > > dropping water or something for GOD.

> > >

> > > Mantra Saapa Vimochana mantra

> > > For some mantras Saapas will be there, after japa we have to do the saapa

vimochana mantra japa.

> > >

> > > thank you

> > > Narasimha

> > > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>

> > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: swarna akarshana mantra sadhana

> > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

> > > Friday, June 12, 2009, 5:46 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Narasimha Rao Ji

> > > Aum Namah Shivaaya

> > > It is an eye opening mail, thanks for it.

> > > Wuld you be kind enough to write something about Saadhanaa of a Mantra -

> > > as how many chants in how many days should be done?

> > > at what time the chant should be done?

> > > what restrictions of any kind should be followed while doing this?

> > > And any other thing to follow which I have forgotten to ask...

> > >

> > > I will be very grateful

> > > Thanks a lot

> > > Sushma

> > >

> > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6@ ..> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I am requesting you guys, please a mantra means not just chanting, for

that a good day must be there. For every mantra some rules and chanting ways are

there. Like aasana, japa mala, chant number, chanting sequence per day,

after chanting the number what to do and so on...

> > > > Not only above, each mantra is having lot of meanings, it may look like

something , but the real mean may be diffrent.

> > > > Moreover the person who is giving mantra , has to comeplete some

siddhi(means he has to complete specified number of chanting, homa, tarpana,

vitharana and all) I dnt know about the posted person's spritual capacity to

give a Maha mantra of BHAIRAVA to a very very open forum. The next day onwards

guru will take good or bad result 50% for each chanting. Thats why guru is very

very respectful person.

> > > > In each sampradaya, the each beejakshara of amntra.Sampradaya will

change and everything, like aasana , japa mala, upasana vidhana , even eating

habbits, mantra chanting timings, number of chantings and so on...

> > > > Especially the below mantra is from Swarnakarshana Bhairava Tantra,

a extract from Oldest Rudrayamala purva tantra. Rudrayamala tantra is the tantra

ancient to even Rig veda.

> > > > So please donot do any copy paste job. Post above full details including

sampradaya.

> > > > If any mistakes please excuse me.

> > > > Thank you,

> > > > Narasimha

> > >

> >

>

June 20, 2009

Hi,

This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number .

Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.

And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr

am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) .

I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.

Thank you

Narasimha--- On Sat, 6/20/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee Re: mantra sadhana Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 5:11 AM

Dear Narasimha Rao JiThanks very much for replying my mail and giving the Shaap Vimochan Mantra also. So after doing the Jaap of Gayatri Mantra one should read these three texts only once for better effects of Gayatri worship?Sir, my one question still remains unanswered that these so many Gayatri Dhaam are chanting Gayatri Mantra and are asking others to chant this Mantra, but they are not telling them to recite the Shaap Vimochan Mantra, why? and I think most people do not know about it. When I read it first I was shocked that such a popular Vaidik Mantra can have curse on it. Is this OK to chant Gayatri Mantra like this, I mean without Shaap Vimochan Mantra, if it is cursed by three people?The second thing arose in my mind after reading your mail that it shows that then Gayatri must be very difficult Devee, so that even such great Rishi like Vishwaamitra and Vashishth and even Bhagavaan Brahmaa were also angry at not being her

pleased with their Tap and they had to curse her. While now a days this Gayatri movement is so popular and visible in India that one cannot think of these happenings. What is the truth in this movement?With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@. ..> wrote:>> HI All, > Some more rules for Upasana:> Upasaka should not cut and comb his hair, beard and nails (for most of mantras).> He is restricted not to wear shoes or cheppels, jewels, perfumes.... > He should not see his image in mirror.> Must sleep on floor(except for some saktheya mantras).> For some mantras he must be brahmachari( depends on Sampradaya). Some mantras he

should not think about other ladies , but for some he should use other ladies.> He should not sleep in the afternoon. > He cannot scold others. Less talking and always the mantra inword chanting. > He cant stop deeksha or japa as per his samkalpa. If samkalpa is broken again he needs to start from scratch(Lets someone started to do 1lakh for 45days, he cant stop until the samkalpa is completed). If it is so he needs prayastchittam.> For some mantras he is restricted to cross the rivers and oceans.> What ever the mantra if you are not chanting for continuous 5 days, need again upadesa.> Even if a person it not doing Sandhyavandana for 3 continuous days he needs again thread marriage. At least he has to do minimum number of mantra chant like 11, 21, 64,108.....> For upasakas eating cucumber will help to increase spiritual powers in him(Bhuta Damram, Uddesa tantras).> And many

many more are there. > > Viswamitra done great tapa of gayatri and at last he lost his patience. and cursed gayatri. Even the same happened in case of Brahma and vasista also. There are chanted after Uttara mudras of gayatri. For chanting these mantras need a guru. > These are mentioned in Viswamitra kalpa and Gayatri upasana sarwaswa. > The attached PDF curtesy of amba.org.> Thank you > Narasimha> > --- On Tue, 6/16/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: swarna akarshana mantra sadhana> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 9:28

AM> > > > > > > > > Many many thanks Narasimha Ji> One question more Sir. Somebody wrote that Gaayatree Mantra is crsed by three Devtaa - Brahmaa, Vashishth and Vishwaamitra (I think) and therefore after chanting it one must recite three Shaap Vimochan Mantra. ON asking he refused to tell further in this regard.> > What is your opinion? There are so many Gaayatree Dhaam are open now a days and in those Aashram, millions of people are reciting Gaayatree Mantra, but I have never seen anyb ody reciting Shaap Vimochan Mantra nor heard talking about this.> Thanks again for such an elaborate explanation> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi, > > Mantra Number > > It depends on Mantra, lets take one

Shiva mantra, Its mantra siddhi number is one lakh, but it depends on yuga, this is Kaliyuga its 4 lakhs. all these will be mentioned in the tantra or samhithas. or you will get from guru.> > > > Mantra Timings> > Usually the mantra chant has to be done in early monrning. For some vaama chara cults it be may be midnight. In some cults Mahalakshmi, Swarna karshana Bhairava and Neela Saraswathi chant will be midnight. Even day also differs, for some Purnami, Amavasya and so on.... > > > > Mantra chant> > Must be in a regular passion, I mean dialy 1000 times , upto completion of 1 lakh without fail. (Number may be differs like 108, 1000, 2000 ...but the same number you have to do dialy)> > > > Chanting Place> > It is defined by the Guru, for some mantras upasaka has to stand it a water stream. Upasaka has to sit in mountain peak or banks

of rivers or temple or guru charanam or atleast in own house. > > > > Aaasana > > Aasana is also specified by Guru on your capacity. For all mantras Darbhasana. For some vaishana mantras it is Peetambaram. Depends on your mental stamina they may suggest krishnajina or Vyaghrajina( Skin of deer and Tiger). For some vaama charas they will suggest Pancha preathasana and savasana. > > * Rule : For Kirshnajina and Vyagrajinas shuld not have any holes or damages (Mean hunted animals skin shuold not be used).> > Food Habbits > > For mantras onion, masala and garlic are restricted. Ofcourse nonveg, egg also. For vaamachara and panchamakara upasanas upasaka has to eat fish dialy.> > Mantra Parts > > Each mantra whtever it may be, you have to do with saptangas. Other wise it like asking help from PHC. For every mantra saptangas(7 parts will be there)> > 1. Rushi :

author of the mantra> > 2.Chandassu: Chanting pronunciation> > 3.Devatha : To whom it is addressed (GOD name) > > 4.kamyam : purpose> > 5.Anganyasam: (It varies from mantra to mantra)> > 6.Pancha puja( Gandham, Pushpam, Dhupam, Deepam, naivedyam, Tambulam).> > 7.Arpanam: Chant is giving to GOD.> > Mantra Mudras > > It differs from mantra to another mantras. There are expressed before and after mantra chanting.> > Mantra Homa> > Whtever tha mantra number chanted, dasamsam homa has to perform(offering to Fire). Homa dravya depends on devatha. Like for some saivite mantras thilams, Ghee, for Mahalakshmi Lotus.....> > Mantra Tarpanam> > dropping water or something for GOD.> > > > Mantra Saapa Vimochana mantra> > For some mantras Saapas will be there, after japa we have to do the

saapa vimochana mantra japa.> > > > thank you > > Narasimha > > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: swarna akarshana mantra sadhana> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> > Friday, June 12, 2009, 5:46 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Narasimha Rao Ji> > Aum Namah Shivaaya> > It is an eye opening mail, thanks for it.> > Wuld you be kind enough to write something about Saadhanaa of a Mantra - > > as how many chants in how many days should be done? > > at what time the chant should be done?> > what restrictions of any kind should be followed while doing

this?> > And any other thing to follow which I have forgotten to ask...> > > > I will be very grateful> > Thanks a lot> > Sushma> > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Hi, > > > I am requesting you guys, please a mantra means not just chanting, for that a good day must be there. For every mantra some rules and chanting ways are there. Like aasana, japa mala, chant number, chanting sequence per day, after chanting the number what to do and so on...> > > Not only above, each mantra is having lot of meanings, it may look like something , but the real mean may be diffrent. > > > Moreover the person who is giving mantra , has to comeplete some siddhi(means he has to complete specified

number of chanting, homa, tarpana, vitharana and all) I dnt know about the posted person's spritual capacity to give a Maha mantra of BHAIRAVA to a very very open forum. The next day onwards guru will take good or bad result 50% for each chanting. Thats why guru is very very respectful person.> > > In each sampradaya, the each beejakshara of amntra.Sampradaya will change and everything, like aasana , japa mala, upasana vidhana , even eating habbits, mantra chanting timings, number of chantings and so on...> > > Especially the below mantra is from Swarnakarshana Bhairava Tantra, a extract from Oldest Rudrayamala purva tantra. Rudrayamala tantra is the tantra ancient to even Rig veda. > > > So please donot do any copy paste job. Post above full details including sampradaya.> > > If any mistakes please excuse me.> > > Thank you,> > > Narasimha>

>>

June 24, 2009

Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail.

From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.

I think I am asking too many questions,

Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?

With regards

Sushma

, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6 wrote:

>

> Hi,

> This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it

will be dasamsam of mantra number .

> Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you.

But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean

not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri

purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa

vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give

very very fast results.

>

> And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, " Na gayatrah

param mantr

> am " , there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people

started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult.

Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) .

> I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD

channel few years back.

>

> Thank you

>

> Narasimha

June 24, 2009

Dear Sushmaji,

Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions.

I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah", Written by Nepala Maharaja.

Thank you

Narasimha--- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee Re: mantra sadhana Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM

Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.I think I am asking too many questions, Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@. ..> wrote:>> Hi,> This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri

purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > Thank you > > Narasimha

June 24, 2009

Dear Sushma ji,

Sorry to interject here, but I wanted to share something I thought could be useful, If you cannot find a guru do not get disappointed, we are not alone here on earth, we are guided by God and his divine kingdom of higher beings (also includes great guru's who have left earth plane). All we have to do is to look inside us, we have to ask questions and contemplate on answers, we will get answer and guidance in different forms like this divne group or some books or we will be guided to meet someone etc, even SILENCE is a great teacher, if we focus our attention to silence for a few minutes we will get a lot of insight on what we really are and also answers and guidance for our questions.

That is why all spiritual practices teach to "look inside us", to follow SILENCE and to MEDITATE. Mantra Sadhana will divert our attention from outside to Inside where the Divine Dwells.

In Divine Love,

Om Namah Shivaya,

Divakar.

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6 wrote:

J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6Re: Re: mantra sadhana Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 2:58 PM

Dear Sushmaji,

Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions.

I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah", Written by Nepala Maharaja.

Thank you

Narasimha--- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee > wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhanaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comWednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM

Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.I think I am asking too many questions, Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@. ..> wrote:>> Hi,> This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons

to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > Thank you > > Narasimha

June 24, 2009

Dear Narasimha Ji

Aum Namah Shivaaya

Thanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in

USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you

have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere

on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other

alternative except to ask people.

After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web

and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is

why I would like to share it with you.

" The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you

get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people

who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because

the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body

hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri without the Beej Mantra in

Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause

harm to you. "

This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the

Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri

Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri

Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it

does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to

some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).

Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find

them on the Net.

Hope you will resolve my conflicts.

With regards

Sushma

, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6 wrote:

>

> Dear Sushmaji,

> Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your

questions.

> I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then

books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to

your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you

can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like

" Purascharyarnavah " , Written by Nepala Maharaja.

>

> Thank you

> Narasimha

> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:

>

> bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee

> Re: mantra sadhana

>

> Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM

>

Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail.

> From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.

> I think I am asking too many questions,

> Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?

> With regards

> Sushma

>

> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it

will be dasamsam of mantra number .

> > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to

you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I

mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about

gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give

shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will

give very very fast results.

> >

> > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, " Na gayatrah

param mantr

> > am " , there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people

started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult.

Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) .

> > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD

channel few years back.

> >

> > Thank you

> >

> > Narasimha

>

June 25, 2009

Radhe Krishna To all,

With respect to the discussion that our members are sharing on Mantra's sadhana, I would like to share few references as told by Swami Sivananda and hope this will help our seekers to proceed and or clarify their doubt.

Since I am yet to experience the power of Japa to pen down, thought to share who have attained that through Mantra Sadhana. Our Swamiji used to say, instead of just talking on the subject let's prove it by doing japa / chanting to see for the results ourselves. SOUND AND IMAGE - Swami Sivananda 1. Sounds are vibrations. They give rise to definite forms. Each sound produces a form in the indivisible world, and combinations of sound create complicated shapes. Repetition of a Mantra has a mysterious power of bringing about the manifestation of the Divinity, just as the splitting of an atom manifests the tremendous forces latent in it. When a particular Mantra appropriated to a particular god is properly recited, the vibrations so set up create in the higher planes a special form which that god ensouls for the time being.

2. God is not any particular thing. He is the most general of all beings, satta samanya, as He is called, the universal substratum or the greatest common factor present in every conceivable thing, anywhere. Therefore, the designation of God should be possessed of similar characteristics - namely, it should be very comprehensive. That is, when the name of God is chanted, it is not that any particular finite idea is generated in the mind, but a vaster and more comprehensive notion is generated, which works in such a way that it removes the finitude of consciousness in our mind. Tajjapaá¸¥ tadarthabhÄvanam (I.28) - 'japa' is the word used here in this sutra. Japa is a holy recitation, a constant hammering into the mind of a particular formula, an idea, or a name, in order that the same idea may be allowed to originate in the mind, and nothing else is allowed. The mind is made in such a way that it cannot think one and the same

thing continuously and, therefore, it is necessary to repeat the designation or formula of a particular given object again and again, without any remission or gap, so that the mind reconstitutes itself into the form of that object, and there is a new type of vyapti or pervasion taking place in the mind, which is our intention in the recitation of the mantra. 3. System of the combination of particular words with other words of the requisite character is followed in the composition of a mantra, which literally means, 'that which protects a person who thinks of it'. Mananat trayate iti mantrah - a mantra is that which protects us when we chant it. It protects us like armour, like a shield that we wear in a war, by generating in us a resisting power against any kind of influence which is extraneous in nature, and which is unwanted for the purpose on hand. Chandas is the peculiar chemical combination of the

letters, we may say. Particular chemical substances produce special results or effects when they are combined with certain types of other chemical components. But when they are mixed together, they may create a third force altogether. A mixture that is chemically produced, like hydrogen and oxygen for instance, is not merely an arithmetical combination of two elements, because when the two are combined, some peculiar effect is produced which is not apparently present in either of the components. For instance, water is produced by a combination of hydrogen and oxygen, but we will not find the character of water either in hydrogen or in oxygen. The water that is the effect of the combination of hydrogen and oxygen in a certain proportion is a new effect altogether, and we cannot, by analysis, discover the essence of water in its original causes. Likewise, the words of a mantra, the components of a mantra, have special forces present or

inherent in them, and when the words are combined in the requisite proportion and in the manner mentioned in the chandas shastra, they produce a third kind of effect which is the purpose or intention of the mantra, and that effect is called the devata. We may say that water is the devata of hydrogen and oxygen - it is the deity. That is the intention. That is the purpose. That is what we require. That is what we are aiming at and want. 4. And Finally, How Does Japa helps our health? Modern scientific experiments have confirmed that the japa regulates the reciterâ€™s respiration in a way similar to that offered by some of the exercises of pranayamas. It reduces the breathing rate to half its normal average. That means, on an average, one hourâ€™s disciplined practice of the japa yoga would augment the life of the sadhaka by about five hundred breaths at least! Japa therefore could also be

advised as an important health-exercise. As mentioned earlier, the effects of japa awaken oneâ€™s inherent virtues that naturally result in an overall improvement in his personality, and amelioration of his physical and mental potentials. These positive effects can be used for noble success in terms of worldly progress as well. It is the willpower and the vision, aroused by the japa that â€˜transformâ€™ the difficult circumstances and obstacles into minor ones in a miraculous manner.

www.namadwaar.org Chant the Mahamantra Nama kirtan : Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare

June 25, 2009

so write the correct gayatri please thanks

-

bhagvatjee

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:56 PM

Re: mantra sadhana

Dear Narasimha JiAum Namah ShivaayaThanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other alternative except to ask people.After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is why I would like to share it with you. "The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri without the Beej Mantra in Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause harm to you."This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find them on the Net.Hope you will resolve my conflicts.With regardsSushma , "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6 wrote:>> Dear Sushmaji, > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions. > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah", Written by Nepala Maharaja.> > Thank you > Narasimha> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee> Re: mantra sadhana> > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM> Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.> I think I am asking too many questions, > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> > am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > > > Thank you > > > > Narasimha>

June 25, 2009

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jia gurudev

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dear friend,

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doing mantra with sincerity gives result.

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om shivaya namaha

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om namaste maharudraya

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om kleem radhakrishnaya namaha

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om hreem umamaheswaraya namaha

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do any of these with sincerity u will get result.

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2 : it is scientifically proven that nature is our creator,ie nature

is god and in everything,infact god=nature is all that exists.

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u can sit and meditate or do ajapa jap.

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u will get benefit.

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pls try.

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om shakti

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gopal

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On 6/25/09, Ravishankar Gopal <ravishankar_g wrote:

Radhe Krishna To all,

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With respect to the discussion that our members are sharingÂ on Mantra's sadhana,Â I would like to shareÂ few references as told by Swami Sivananda and hope this will help our seekers to proceed and or clarify their doubt.

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Since I am yet to experienceÂ the power of Japa to pen down, thought to share who have attained that through Mantra Sadhana. Our Swamiji used to say,Â instead of just talking on the subject let's prove it by doing japa / chanting to see for the results ourselves.

Â SOUND AND IMAGE - Swami SivanandaÂ 1. Sounds are vibrations. They give rise to definite forms. Each sound produces a form in the indivisible world, and combinations of sound create complicated shapes. Repetition of a Mantra has a mysterious power of bringing about the manifestation of the Divinity, just as the splitting of an atom manifests the tremendous forces latent in it. When a particular Mantra appropriated to a particular god is properly recited, the vibrations so set up create in the higher planes a special form which that god ensouls for the time being.

Â 2.Â Â God is not any particular thing. He is the most general of all beings, satta samanya, as He is called, the universal substratum or the greatest common factor present in every conceivable thing, anywhere. Therefore, the designation of God should be possessed of similar characteristics - namely, it should be very comprehensive. That is, when the name of God is chanted, it is not that any particular finite idea is generated in the mind, but a vaster and more comprehensive notion is generated, which works in such a way that it removes the finitude of consciousness in our mind. Tajjapaá¸¥ tadarthabhÄvanam (I.28) - 'japa' is the word used here in this sutra. Japa is a holy recitation, a constant hammering into the mind of a particular formula, an idea, or a name, in order that the same idea may be allowed to originate in the mind, and nothing else is allowed. The mind is made in such a way that it cannot think one and the same thing continuously and, therefore, it is necessary to repeat the designation or formula of a particular given object again and again, without any remission or gap, so that the mind reconstitutes itself into the form of that object, and there is a new type of vyapti or pervasion taking place in the mind, which is our intention in the recitation of the mantra.

Â 3.Â System of the combination of particular words with other words of the requisite character is followed in the composition of a mantra, which literally means, 'that which protects a person who thinks of it'. Mananat trayate iti mantrah - a mantra is that which protects us when we chant it. It protects us like armour, like a shield that we wear in a war, by generating in us a resisting power against any kind of influence which is extraneous in nature, and which is unwanted for the purpose on hand. Chandas is the peculiar chemical combination of the letters, we may say. Particular chemical substances produce special results or effects when they are combined with certain types of other chemical components. But when they are mixed together, they may create a third force altogether.

Â A mixture that is chemically produced, like hydrogen and oxygen for instance, is not merely an arithmetical combination of two elements, because when the two are combined, some peculiar effect is produced which is not apparently present in either of the components. For instance, water is produced by a combination of hydrogen and oxygen, but we will not find the character of water either in hydrogen or in oxygen. The water that is the effect of the combination of hydrogen and oxygen in a certain proportion is a new effect altogether, and we cannot, by analysis, discover the essence of water in its original causes. Likewise, the words of a mantra, the components of a mantra, have special forces present or inherent in them, and when the words are combined in the requisite proportion and in the manner mentioned in the chandas shastra, they produce a third kind of effect which is the purpose or intention of the mantra, and that effect is called the devata. We may say that water is the devata of hydrogen and oxygen - it is the deity.

Â That is the intention. That is the purpose. That is what we require. That is what we are aiming at and want.Â 4. And Finally,Â How Does Japa helps our health?Â Â Modern scientific experiments have confirmed that the japa regulates the reciterâ€™s respiration in a way similar to that offered by some of the exercises of pranayamas. It reduces the breathing rate to half its normal average.

Â That means, on an average, one hourâ€™s disciplined practice of the japa yoga would augment the life of the sadhaka by about five hundred breaths at least! Japa therefore could also be advised as an important health-exercise.

Â As mentioned earlier, the effects of japa awaken oneâ€™s inherent virtues that naturally result in an overall improvement in his personality, and amelioration of his physical and mental potentials. These positive effects can be used for noble success in terms of worldly progress as well.

Â It is the willpower and the vision, aroused by the japa that â€˜transformâ€™ the difficult circumstances and obstacles into minor ones in a miraculous manner.

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www.namadwaar.org Chant the Mahamantra Nama kirtanÂ :Â Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare HareÂ Â Â

June 25, 2009

There is only one Gayatri which is known to most of us, dont get carried away by false interpretations, here are some links of Great Gurus interpretation of Gayatri Mantra

Swami Sivananda, Satya Sai Baba and Gayatri Parivar that gives more insight into the Powerful mantra.

http://www.awgp.org/

http://sss.vn.ua/gayatr_l.htm

http://tejascreative.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/gayatri-japa-day/

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, actionforsoul <actionforsoul wrote:

actionforsoul <actionforsoulRe: Re: mantra sadhana Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 2:50 AM

so write the correct gayatri please thanks

-

bhagvatjee

om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:56 PM

[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana

Dear Narasimha JiAum Namah ShivaayaThanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other alternative except to ask people.After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is why I would like to share it with you. "The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri

without the Beej Mantra in Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause harm to you."This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find them on the Net.Hope you will resolve my conflicts.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_

group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sushmaji, > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions. > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah" , Written by Nepala Maharaja.> > Thank you > Narasimha> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM> Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.> I think I am asking too many questions, > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many

people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> > am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > > > Thank you > > > > Narasimha>

June 25, 2009

Sushmaji,

The post in internet, I am not sure its correct, I am not aware of that. But what ever he said is wrong about Gayatri mantra. Gayathri mantra is of Gayathri chandassu (mean 24 characters). Leave about characters the way of chanting is important (the swara). More over chanting 108 will give you Nirvikalpa samadhi ? I dnt think so it is not possible for a normal man.

Because while chanting our eyes are looking at something,

Nose is doing its job, skin, brain, ears ..... These all are doing their job and diverting us in different percentages while chanting.

For any mantra only one chant is enough with full concentration, but in the above situation even we chant 1 lakh also, many people wonâ€™t get concentration of 70%. Thats why if we got one mantra siddhi then no need of another mantra or other upasana.

Gayathri is also called as Savithri, Brahmi, Savitha ....

Mudra mean a gesture, those are not poses or symbols. May be I can help you with some references about Gayathri mantra this weekend.

Sivarpanam

Narasimha

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee Re: mantra sadhana Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:56 PM

Dear Narasimha JiAum Namah ShivaayaThanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other alternative except to ask people.After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is why I would like to share it with you. "The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri

without the Beej Mantra in Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause harm to you."This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find them on the Net.Hope you will resolve my conflicts.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_

group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sushmaji, > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions. > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah" , Written by Nepala Maharaja.> > Thank you > Narasimha> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM> Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.> I think I am asking too many questions, > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many

people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> > am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > > > Thank you > > > > Narasimha>

June 26, 2009

Dear Divakara Tanjore,I find that the explanations by Bhagawan Satya Sai Baba and Sivananda on Gayatri Mantra are useful and relevant. But I could not locate the insight into the Gayatri Mantra from the website of Gayatri Parivar .G.BalasubramanianDivakara Tanjore <div_tan Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:40:05 AMRe: Re: mantra sadhana

There is only one Gayatri which is known to most of us, dont get carried away by false interpretations, here are some links of Great Gurus interpretation of Gayatri Mantra

Swami Sivananda, Satya Sai Baba and Gayatri Parivar that gives more insight into the Powerful mantra.

http://www.awgp. org/

http://sss.vn. ua/gayatr_ l.htm

http://tejascreativ e.wordpress. com/2008/ 08/15/gayatri- japa-day/

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it> wrote:

actionforsoul@ .it <actionforsoul@ .it>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhanaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comThursday, June 25, 2009, 2:50 AM

so write the correct gayatri please thanks

-

bhagvatjee

om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:56 PM

[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana

Dear Narasimha JiAum Namah ShivaayaThanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other alternative except to ask people.After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is why I would like to share it with you. "The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri

without the Beej Mantra in Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause harm to you."This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find them on the Net.Hope you will resolve my conflicts.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_

group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sushmaji, > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions. > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah" , Written by Nepala Maharaja.> > Thank you > Narasimha> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM> Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.> I think I am asking too many questions, > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not

from somone told quotations and books. Many

people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> > am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > > > Thank you > > > > Narasimha>

June 26, 2009

Respectful Devotees,

I hope you all will enjoy this which is practical and useful.

Om Shri Guru Basava Lingaya Namaha

Om Nama Shivayah

Let us Love Live Long! Let there be Peace.

Lingaraj--- On Thu, 6/25/09, J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6 wrote:

J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6Re: Re: mantra sadhana Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 7:52 PM

Sushmaji,

The post in internet, I am not sure its correct, I am not aware of that. But what ever he said is wrong about Gayatri mantra. Gayathri mantra is of Gayathri chandassu (mean 24 characters). Leave about characters the way of chanting is important (the swara). More over chanting 108 will give you Nirvikalpa samadhi ? I dnt think so it is not possible for a normal man.

Because while chanting our eyes are looking at something,

Nose is doing its job, skin, brain, ears ..... These all are doing their job and diverting us in different percentages while chanting.

For any mantra only one chant is enough with full concentration, but in the above situation even we chant 1 lakh also, many people wonâ€™t get concentration of 70%. Thats why if we got one mantra siddhi then no need of another mantra or other upasana.

Gayathri is also called as Savithri, Brahmi, Savitha ....

Mudra mean a gesture, those are not poses or symbols. May be I can help you with some references about Gayathri mantra this weekend.

Sivarpanam

Narasimha

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee > wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhanaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comWednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:56 PM

Dear Narasimha JiAum Namah ShivaayaThanks for replying so fast.. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other alternative except to ask people.After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is why I would like to share it with you. "The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri

without the Beej Mantra in Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause harm to you."This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find them on the Net..Hope you will resolve my conflicts.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@.

...> wrote:>> Dear Sushmaji, > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions. > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah" , Written by Nepala Maharaja.> > Thank you > Narasimha> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Wednesday, June 24,

2009, 3:55 AM> Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.> I think I am asking too many questions, > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras.

It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> > am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > > > Thank you > > > > Narasimha>

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June 26, 2009

Sushma ji,

yr comment Gayatri is Fake mantra - that is wrong -

First of all not only Gayatri but no mantra is fake -

as all the word has some meaning -

it depends on the vibration of the word as mentioned by

Shri Narasimha Rao ji,

my experience about Gayatri Mantra has taught me

quite a lot -

In fact it is just a prayer to LORD SUN -

1. Although first of all any person who wants to do MANTRA SADHANA

must have some aim - for what purpose u want to do that. 2. As per persons own chart [horoscope] it defined that will he be

capable of finishing the Anus than or will he progress in that field.

3. Most IMPORTANT " if there is will there is way" .

What is the AIM ?

What u want acquire?

Than u have to choose whom to pray?{which Deva ta]

than if u proceed I am quite certain that u will gain success.

Although yr efforts to enquire about it the first step -

Hence wish u a success -

Apart from that please let me know the name of

languages which u can read and understand

I will try to find a books - perhaps I might have some

for MOTHER GAYATRI - certainly u can have the copies

Hari bol pdk

--- On Thu, 25/6/09, J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6 wrote:

J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6Re: Re: mantra sadhana Date: Thursday, 25 June, 2009, 8:52 PM

Sushmaji,

The post in internet, I am not sure its correct, I am not aware of that. But what ever he said is wrong about Gayatri mantra. Gayathri mantra is of Gayathri chandassu (mean 24 characters). Leave about characters the way of chanting is important (the swara). More over chanting 108 will give you Nirvikalpa samadhi ? I dnt think so it is not possible for a normal man.

Because while chanting our eyes are looking at something,

Nose is doing its job, skin, brain, ears ..... These all are doing their job and diverting us in different percentages while chanting.

For any mantra only one chant is enough with full concentration, but in the above situation even we chant 1 lakh also, many people wonâ€™t get concentration of 70%. Thats why if we got one mantra siddhi then no need of another mantra or other upasana.

Gayathri is also called as Savithri, Brahmi, Savitha ....

Mudra mean a gesture, those are not poses or symbols. May be I can help you with some references about Gayathri mantra this weekend.

Sivarpanam

Narasimha

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee > wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhanaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comWednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:56 PM

Dear Narasimha JiAum Namah ShivaayaThanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other alternative except to ask people.After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is why I would like to share it with you. "The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri

without the Beej Mantra in Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause harm to you."This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find them on the Net.Hope you will resolve my conflicts.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@.

...> wrote:>> Dear Sushmaji, > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions. > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah" , Written by Nepala Maharaja.> > Thank you > Narasimha> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Wednesday, June 24,

2009, 3:55 AM> Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.> I think I am asking too many questions, > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras.

It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> > am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > > > Thank you > > > > Narasimha>

June 26, 2009

Sushmaji,

As I am not in INDIA, may I need few days to send some details about gayatri mantra.

Hariji ,

Yes there are some fake mantras, The funniest thing in this world I came to know is Jesus is having Gayatri mantra,

Jeruselamaya vidmahe, meriputrayadhemahi, Tanno yesu prachodayath||

Many innocent people will chant this. There is no meaning I suppose, just imitation thats all. Even sai baba yantra I saw? Many people want to compare saints and yogis equal to GOD. This is very depressing. Without knowing the mean and purpose just writing a yantra. Please refer many upanishth are there like Bhavanopanishad, Maha Narayanopanishad, .....

Respect the saints but at the same time dnt forget saint worshipped GOD. They done some great yoga sadhanas , we are not even thinking about yoga sadhanas, just worshipping them.

Sivarpanam

Narasimha

--- On Fri, 6/26/09, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote:

pdk kotak <ganeshji101Re: Re: mantra sadhana Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 2:50 AM

Sushma ji,

yr comment Gayatri is Fake mantra - that is wrong -

First of all not only Gayatri but no mantra is fake -

as all the word has some meaning -

it depends on the vibration of the word as mentioned by

Shri Narasimha Rao ji,

my experience about Gayatri Mantra has taught me

quite a lot -

In fact it is just a prayer to LORD SUN -

1. Although first of all any person who wants to do MANTRA SADHANA

must have some aim - for what purpose u want to do that. 2. As per persons own chart [horoscope] it defined that will he be

capable of finishing the Anus than or will he progress in that field.

3. Most IMPORTANT " if there is will there is way" .

What is the AIM ?

What u want acquire?

Than u have to choose whom to pray?{which Deva ta]

than if u proceed I am quite certain that u will gain success.

Although yr efforts to enquire about it the first step -

Hence wish u a success -

Apart from that please let me know the name of

languages which u can read and understand

I will try to find a books - perhaps I might have some

for MOTHER GAYATRI - certainly u can have the copies

Hari bol pdk

--- On Thu, 25/6/09, J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6 > wrote:

J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6 >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhanaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comThursday, 25 June, 2009, 8:52 PM

Sushmaji,

The post in internet, I am not sure its correct, I am not aware of that. But what ever he said is wrong about Gayatri mantra. Gayathri mantra is of Gayathri chandassu (mean 24 characters). Leave about characters the way of chanting is important (the swara). More over chanting 108 will give you Nirvikalpa samadhi ? I dnt think so it is not possible for a normal man.

Because while chanting our eyes are looking at something,

Nose is doing its job, skin, brain, ears ..... These all are doing their job and diverting us in different percentages while chanting.

For any mantra only one chant is enough with full concentration, but in the above situation even we chant 1 lakh also, many people wonâ€™t get concentration of 70%. Thats why if we got one mantra siddhi then no need of another mantra or other upasana.

Gayathri is also called as Savithri, Brahmi, Savitha ....

Mudra mean a gesture, those are not poses or symbols. May be I can help you with some references about Gayathri mantra this weekend.

Sivarpanam

Narasimha

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee > wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhanaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comWednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:56 PM

Dear Narasimha JiAum Namah ShivaayaThanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other alternative except to ask people.After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is why I would like to share it with you. "The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri

without the Beej Mantra in Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause harm to you."This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find them on the Net.Hope you will resolve my conflicts.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@.

...> wrote:>> Dear Sushmaji, > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions. > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like "Purascharyarnavah" , Written by Nepala Maharaja.> > Thank you > Narasimha> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Wednesday, June 24,

2009, 3:55 AM> Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.> I think I am asking too many questions, > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras.

It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> > am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > > > Thank you > > > > Narasimha>

June 26, 2009

Sir, I myself do not know the correct Gayatri Mantr according to him. I know

only the general one - " Aum Bhoor Bhuvah Swaha, Tat savitur Varenyam Bhargo

Devasya Dheemahi Dhiyo Yonah Prachodayaat. " I do not know further than this.

In fact I read it on the net and to know the truth, I put this in this Group.

Whether that man is writing correct or not, the matter now is in many hands. I

have never eard what he wrote, that is why I could not believe it, and for the

same reason I put it here.

With regards

Sushma

, <actionforsoul wrote:

>

> so write the correct gayatri please thanks

>

> -

> bhagvatjee

>

> Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:56 PM

> Re: mantra sadhana

>

> Dear Narasimha Ji

> Aum Namah Shivaaya

> Thanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live

in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you

have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere

on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other

alternative except to ask people.

>

> After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the

Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that

is why I would like to share it with you.

>

> " The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then

you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi,

people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is

because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your

body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri without the Beej Mantra in

Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause

harm to you. "

>

> This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not

the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri

Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri

Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it

does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to

some Devtaa or Devee (maybe Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).

>

> Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find

them on the Net.

> Hope you will resolve my conflicts.

> With regards

> Sushma

>

> , " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sushmaji,

> > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your

questions.

> > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then

books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to

your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you

can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or read books like

" Purascharyarnavah " , Written by Nepala Maharaja.

> >

> > Thank you

> > Narasimha

> > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@> wrote:

> >

> > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@>

> > Re: mantra sadhana

> >

> > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM

> >

> Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail.

> > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.

> > I think I am asking too many questions,

> > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri

Mantra?

> > With regards

> > Sushma

> >

> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao "

<narsimha6@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and

it will be dasamsam of mantra number .

> > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer

to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts,

I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about

gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give

shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will

give very very fast results.

> > >

> > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, " Na

gayatrah param mantr

> > > am " , there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw many

people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very

difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) .

> > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in

DD channel few years back.

> > >

> > > Thank you

> > >

> > > Narasimha

> >

>

June 27, 2009

Please note Aum Bhur bhava swaha are pravan mantra - for the rest words

meaning it as Under :

24 letters of the Gayatri MantraThe following table gives the 24 letters of the Gayatri spell and itsrelation to the power.1. tat tapini fruitfulness2. sa saphalata valour3. vi visshwa perseverance4. tur

tushti welfare5. va varada yoga6. re revati love7. ni sukshma wealth8. yam jnana lustre9. bhar bharga protection10.

go gomati wisdom11. de devika subjugation12. va varahi allegiance13. sya simhani determination14. dhi dhyana life15. ma maryada time16.

hi sphutaa penance17. dhi medha forecast18. yo yogamaya alertness19. yo yogini production20. na dhanin protection21. pra prabhava idealism22.

cho ushma adventure23. da drishya discrimination24. at niranjana serviceThe 24 powers of Gayatri mentioned above awaken in the sadhak certainqualities, and along with this awakening he starts getting success andprosperity i.e., siddhi.

Many feel that these benefits are showered by some God or Goddess. They do not realize the development of the subtle force in themselves. If they are able to know the subtle force working in them, they will realize that such benefits do not accrue of their own accord and that all of them are the results of the interplay of spiritual forces in them.

Gayatri sadhana or upasana is not blind faith, but a scientific process whose development and progress are sure to yield to desired fruits. Gayatri is the adi shakti (the prime force).

With this force both sentient and insentient worlds (life and matter)derive their movement (gati) or force or inspiration, and result isdevelopment and progress.

Just as one can easily hear any broadcast from any station by just tuning a knob, similarly, one can establish one's contact through one's spiritual powers with the subtle, all pervading Gayatri. One can use one's own spiritual power for attainment of all or a particular benefit-material, psychological or spiritual.

This is sadhana. A sincere devotee with a weak determination faces many odds; even the easiest course becomes very difficult for him. It is just likecold, which enhances the strength of the strong but weakens the spiritof the weak and makes them suffer with pneumonia etc.

In other words, the principal which becomes fatal to the weak, become energizing to the strong and determined. The weak sheep is devoured by the wild beasts and even eaten by men, but the lion is adored not only by the wild beast and animals but even by the strongest emperors who wear it as an insignia on their person. A man suffers from sorrow for three reasons viz., lack of power or ability, greed for a thing, and ignorance or lack of knowledge.If he does not possess certain things, say food, clothing, water, shelter, land servants, friends wealth, medicine, books weapons, etc., he faces many difficulties and may feel depressed. Because, he fails to act at the right moment, he suffers endlessly and opportunities rarely to him.

Gayatri is the desire-yielding cow (kamadhenu) . One who recites Gayatri and engages one self in her sadhana is blessedby Mother Gayatri.. He remains outside the purview of ignorance,incapacity and want of things and gets the desired things.SOURCE: "Gayatri Pariwar Publication commemorating the AshwaMedha Maha - Yagna of 1993." & www.awgp.org

Apart from that my personal experience of doing

Gayatri Anusthan is siuc that it is difficult to explain

Person can only larn my experience -

There are other 24 Gayatri Mantras as well

which relates to different Devata's .

That is the reason why I had written in an earlier mail

what is yr aim and what to do want achive first -

Hari bol pdk

--- On Fri, 26/6/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee Re: mantra sadhana Date: Friday, 26 June, 2009, 9:15 PM

Sir, I myself do not know the correct Gayatri Mantr according to him. I know only the general one - "Aum Bhoor Bhuvah Swaha, Tat savitur Varenyam Bhargo Devasya Dheemahi Dhiyo Yonah Prachodayaat. " I do not know further than this. In fact I read it on the net and to know the truth, I put this in this Group. Whether that man is writing correct or not, the matter now is in many hands. I have never eard what he wrote, that is why I could not believe it, and for the same reason I put it here.With regardsSushmaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, <actionforsoul@ ...> wrote:>> so write the correct gayatri please thanks> > > - > bhagvatjee > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s..com > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:56 PM> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana> > > > > > Dear Narasimha Ji> Aum Namah Shivaaya> Thanks for replying so fast. Sir, I have no Guru (except my husband). I live in USA and so it is difficult to get hold of many books also. Whatever books you have suggested, I would surely like to read them. If I can find them somewhere on Net, it will be easier for me, otherwise, you know, I have no other alternative except to ask people.> > After you told me about the Shaap on Gayatri Mantra, I again searched the Web and I found another eye-opening information. Maybe you are aware of it that is why I would

like to share it with you. > > "The Gayatri is a fake Mantra, it lacks 22 Beej, add them to it, and then you get the true Gayatri. Saying that 108 times gives you Nirvikalp Samaadhi, people who practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is because the Gayatri stimulates the Soorya Naadee which can practically fry your body hence you need to submerge yourself. The Gayatri without the Beej Mantra in Tantra is known as the Saavitree Mantra or the pure Mantra since it cannot cause harm to you."> > This shows that all the people have been reciting only Savitri Mantra not the Gayatri Mantra. Is above statement true? If yes, then what is the Gayatri Mantra? And if thisis not the Gayatri Mantra, then the assumption that Gayatri Mantra is based on the Gaatri Chhand is wrong, because after adding 22 Beej it does not remain 24 letter Mantra. And thus that Mantra should be addressed to some Devtaa or Devee (maybe

Soorya Dev or Gayatri Devee).> > Besides, I would like to know about Uttar and Poorv Mudraa, I could not find them on the Net.> Hope you will resolve my conflicts.> With regards> Sushma> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sushmaji, > > Asking questions is good initiative. If I know I will try to answer your questions. > > I prefer to select a guru, because experience will tell more truths then books.If your mantras are going to siddhi means first it will be indicated to your guru then to you. Even its good or bad. If you haven't found anyone, you can read Viswamitra samhitha or Gayatri Upasana sarwaswa or

read books like "Purascharyarnavah" , Written by Nepala Maharaja.> > > > Thank you > > Narasimha> > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ > wrote:> > > > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ >> > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: mantra sadhana> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> > Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:55 AM> > > Thank you Narasimha Ji for such a detailed mail. > > From every mail of yours one or two questions arise in my mind.> > I think I am asking too many questions, > > Could you tell me where I can read all this about Mantra and Gayatri Mantra?> > With

regards> > Sushma> > > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao" <narsimha6@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Hi,> > > This shap vimochana mantra has to recite after mantra uttara mudras, and it will be dasamsam of mantra number . > > > Why they are not telling shaap vimochana mantra mean what I can answer to you. But all my quotes and refrences are from original books and manuscripts, I mean not from somone told quotations and books. Many people dntknow about gayatri purva and uttara mudras itself. There may be many reasons to not to give shaapa vimchana mantras and mudras. It depends on upasaka capacity. Mudra will give very very fast results.> > > > > > And moreover Gayatri mantra is equal to 7 crore maha mantras, "Na gayatrah param mantr> > > am", there is no equalvlent mantra to gayatri mantram. I saw

many people started and hvnt completed Gayathri Purascharana. Its very very difficult. Gayathri mantra will destroy your karma(both good and bad) . > > > I still remember shaap story is there in Viswamitra serial telecasted in DD channel few years back.> > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Narasimha> >>

June 29, 2009

This Mantra is made by "Bhargo Rushi" which wanted to test all 3 Devtas viz Barhma,Shiva and Vishnu.

First he went to Barhma where Barhama Said that all this creation is of mine where he found "Aahnkar".

Than he went to Shiva and found "Kirodh" there.

Last he went to Vishnu as usual Vishnu was on Snake Seja and he hit with his foot in the chest the reaction was from Devi Laxmi and it was Sarap that I will not come to Barhamans at all but Vishnu reacted very politely by saying that Rushiver your foot is not feeling any problem by hitting in my chest where Bhargo Rushi was quite and said SatoGun is here in Vishnu only and Vishnu said Devi Laxmi that why you Sarap to Rushiver but "Honi ko koon Roky".

Bhargo Rushi thought what to do so that Devi Laxmi Sarap can be got changed after all Bhargo made a book by name "BHARGO SAHNTA" and he went to Devi Laxmi with request that your Sarap will remain there but now kindly bless this book that any Barahman will have this book with full knowledge than he will be always blessed by Devi Laxmi,in resonce Devi Laxmi Blessed all and said OK.

Before some one ask reference please read Vishnu Puran it is there.

So all Mantras and Jyotash is made by Bhargo Rushi and are Blessed by Devi Laxmi out of which one is "Gaytri Mantra".

Jai Devi Aadshakti.

Assaram--- On Sat, 6/27/09, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote:

pdk kotak <ganeshji101Re: Re: mantra sadhana Cc: bhagvatjeeDate: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 12:08 AM