Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Radhe Krishna and Hari OM,I have been observing that very learned discussions have been going on in this about Mantra and Mantra Sadhana. In the month of June itself a number of postings were made on Mrityunjaya Mantra, Bhairava mantra etc. etc. A number of postings related to mantra Japam. These prompted me to share my understanding abount Mantra etc. with you all. What is a Mantra ? Which is the most powerful Mantra? How are Mantras to be learnt? How Mantras are to chanted? etc. etc. I want to share some of my thoughts and understanding in this regard A Mantra can be said to be a word-symbol or symbols representing and expressing, as nearly as possible, the particular view of God and the universe they stand for. When the Mantras that are of the nature of symbols, syllables etc. etc. is given to the disciple or sadhaka by an illumined Guru, it becomes a living seed. The Guru, by his spiritual power, gives life to the word and at the same time awakens the spiritual power latent in the disciple. That is the secret of Guru`s initiation. A Mantra is an aid to meditation. There are three types of Mantras: - The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik Mantras. The second category of Mantras excite and manifest might and power and are called Rajasik Mantras. Lastly, those that are of quiet and purely spiritual types are called Satwik. All the Mantras again fall under two classifications:- (a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning and (b) those Mantras that are of the nature of an invocation and the devotee must necessarily know the meaning of those Mantras. In the abscence of knowledge of meaning of the Mantras he will not be able to bring his mind to play upon the Divine theme constantly. The Vedic Mantras are both in prose and poetry. Metrical Mantras are called "Rik" and "Yajus" is the name of the prose .(to be continued)G.Balasubramanian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Sorry to disagree as there is nothing like tamasik or rajasik in mantras,do not bring Iskcon phylosophy here please. , G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote: > > Radhe Krishna and Hari OM, > I have been observing that very learned discussions have been going on in this about Mantra and Mantra Sadhana. In the month of June itself a number of postings were made on Mrityunjaya Mantra, Bhairava mantra etc. etc. A number of postings related to mantra Japam. These prompted me to share my understanding abount Mantra etc. with you all. > What is a Mantra ? Which is the most powerful Mantra? How are Mantras to be learnt? How Mantras are to chanted? etc. etc. I want to share some of my thoughts and understanding in this regard > > A Mantra can be said to be a word-symbol or symbols representing and expressing, as nearly as possible, the particular view of God and the universe they stand for. When the Mantras that are of the nature of symbols, syllables etc. etc. is given to the disciple or sadhaka by an illumined Guru, it becomes a living seed. The Guru, by his spiritual power, gives life to the word and at the same time awakens the spiritual power latent in the disciple. That is the secret of Guru`s initiation. A Mantra is an aid to meditation. > > There are three types of Mantras: - > The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik Mantras. The second category of Mantras excite and manifest might and power and are called Rajasik Mantras. Lastly, those that are of quiet and purely spiritual types are called Satwik. > > All the Mantras again fall under two classifications:- > (a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning and > (b) those Mantras that are of the nature of an invocation and the devotee must necessarily know the meaning of those Mantras. In the abscence of knowledge of meaning of the Mantras he will not be able to bring his mind to play upon the Divine theme constantly. > > The Vedic Mantras are both in prose and poetry. Metrical Mantras are called " Rik " and " Yajus " is the name of the prose . > (to be continued) > G.Balasubramanian > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Hi , I support sri GB, there are satvika, rajasa, tamo guna pradhana mantras. Its our Hindu concept only. There are some tamo guna pradhana mantras are there. Like Raktajhati and so on... Those mantra devathas will suck even last blood drop of your enemy, if we do some mistakes in upasana they will suck destroy upasaka. I suggest everyone to know 1st about mantra, vidhana and guru. Please do some satva guna pradhana mantras only. even if you stop there wont be any issues. Who will say all these means Guru. Even any problem he has to take responsibility to save you. Satva guna Pradhana some mantras : Shaivism : Sri Medha Dakshina murthy : I havent found any other meanings then satva guna pradhana. Vaishnava : Sri Ram Saktheyam : Saraswati(only saraswathi, not neela saraswathi,....) Ganapatyam: Chitamani Ganapathi My friend there some mantras to kill devathas also including Brahma and all. That's why I said to pray only devathas not some jaathis in my previous postings. Thank you Narasimha --- On Wed, 6/24/09, tpmods <no_reply > wrote: tpmods <no_reply > Re: ABOUT MANTRAS-1 Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 7:26 PM Sorry to disagree as there is nothing like tamasik or rajasik in mantras,do not bring Iskcon phylosophy here please.om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote:>> Radhe Krishna and Hari OM,> I have been observing that very learned discussions have been going on in this about Mantra and Mantra Sadhana. In the month of June itself a number of postings were made on Mrityunjaya Mantra, Bhairava mantra etc. etc. A number of postings related to mantra Japam. These prompted me to share my understanding abount Mantra etc. with you all.> What is a Mantra ? Which is the most powerful Mantra? How are Mantras to be learnt? How Mantras are to chanted? etc. etc. I want to share some of my thoughts and understanding in this regard > > A Mantra can be said to be a word-symbol or symbols representing and expressing, as nearly as possible, the particular view of God and the universe they stand for. When the Mantras that are of the nature of symbols, syllables etc. etc. is given to the disciple or sadhaka by an illumined Guru, it becomes a living seed. The Guru, by his spiritual power, gives life to the word and at the same time awakens the spiritual power latent in the disciple. That is the secret of Guru`s initiation. A Mantra is an aid to meditation.> > There are three types of Mantras: -> The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik Mantras. The second category of Mantras excite and manifest might and power and are called Rajasik Mantras. Lastly, those that are of quiet and purely spiritual types are called Satwik.> > All the Mantras again fall under two classifications: -> (a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning and > (b) those Mantras that are of the nature of an invocation and the devotee must necessarily know the meaning of those Mantras. In the abscence of knowledge of meaning of the Mantras he will not be able to bring his mind to play upon the Divine theme constantly.> > The Vedic Mantras are both in prose and poetry. Metrical Mantras are called "Rik" and "Yajus" is the name of the prose .> (to be continued)> G.Balasubramanian> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> > > http://mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Hi GB Ji, There are three types of Mantras: - The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik Mantras. I am sorry to disagree , Tamasik mantras will work fastly (good or bad) and they will invoke extreme high powers of nature. (a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning Can you please example one. Thank you Narasimha --- On Wed, 6/24/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsub ABOUT MANTRAS-1 Cc: USBrahmins , Aryakrishti-Vedic-Dharma , "Bhagavataseva Bagavataseva" <BhagavataSeva >Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 6:17 PM Radhe Krishna and Hari OM,I have been observing that very learned discussions have been going on in this about Mantra and Mantra Sadhana. In the month of June itself a number of postings were made on Mrityunjaya Mantra, Bhairava mantra etc. etc. A number of postings related to mantra Japam. These prompted me to share my understanding abount Mantra etc. with you all. What is a Mantra ? Which is the most powerful Mantra? How are Mantras to be learnt? How Mantras are to chanted? etc. etc. I want to share some of my thoughts and understanding in this regard A Mantra can be said to be a word-symbol or symbols representing and expressing, as nearly as possible, the particular view of God and the universe they stand for. When the Mantras that are of the nature of symbols, syllables etc. etc. is given to the disciple or sadhaka by an illumined Guru, it becomes a living seed. The Guru, by his spiritual power, gives life to the word and at the same time awakens the spiritual power latent in the disciple. That is the secret of Guru`s initiation. A Mantra is an aid to meditation. There are three types of Mantras: - The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik Mantras. The second category of Mantras excite and manifest might and power and are called Rajasik Mantras. Lastly, those that are of quiet and purely spiritual types are called Satwik. All the Mantras again fall under two classifications: - (a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning and (b) those Mantras that are of the nature of an invocation and the devotee must necessarily know the meaning of those Mantras. In the abscence of knowledge of meaning of the Mantras he will not be able to bring his mind to play upon the Divine theme constantly. The Vedic Mantras are both in prose and poetry. Metrical Mantras are called "Rik" and "Yajus" is the name of the prose .(to be continued)G.Balasubramanian ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 HariOm Kabir ji has said--Gurubin gyan khan se laoon without Guru we wll have unnecessary doubts in a mantra.Mantra should be one given by Guru & second ISHT DEV mantraHave faith in one & then see the miracles. mggarga--- On Fri, 6/26/09, J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6 wrote: J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao <narsimha6Re: ABOUT MANTRAS-1 Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 12:43 AM Hi GB Ji, There are three types of Mantras: - The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik Mantras. I am sorry to disagree , Tamasik mantras will work fastly (good or bad) and they will invoke extreme high powers of nature. (a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning Can you please example one. Thank you Narasimha --- On Wed, 6/24/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsub >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] ABOUT MANTRAS-1om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comCc: USBrahmins@gro ups.com, Aryakrishti- Vedic-Dharma, "Bhagavataseva Bagavataseva" <BhagavataSeva>Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 6:17 PM Radhe Krishna and Hari OM,I have been observing that very learned discussions have been going on in this about Mantra and Mantra Sadhana. In the month of June itself a number of postings were made on Mrityunjaya Mantra, Bhairava mantra etc. etc. A number of postings related to mantra Japam. These prompted me to share my understanding abount Mantra etc. with you all. What is a Mantra ? Which is the most powerful Mantra? How are Mantras to be learnt? How Mantras are to chanted? etc. etc. I want to share some of my thoughts and understanding in this regard A Mantra can be said to be a word-symbol or symbols representing and expressing, as nearly as possible, the particular view of God and the universe they stand for. When the Mantras that are of the nature of symbols, syllables etc. etc. is given to the disciple or sadhaka by an illumined Guru, it becomes a living seed. The Guru, by his spiritual power, gives life to the word and at the same time awakens the spiritual power latent in the disciple. That is the secret of Guru`s initiation. A Mantra is an aid to meditation. There are three types of Mantras: - The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik Mantras. The second category of Mantras excite and manifest might and power and are called Rajasik Mantras. Lastly, those that are of quiet and purely spiritual types are called Satwik. All the Mantras again fall under two classifications: - (a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning and (b) those Mantras that are of the nature of an invocation and the devotee must necessarily know the meaning of those Mantras. In the abscence of knowledge of meaning of the Mantras he will not be able to bring his mind to play upon the Divine theme constantly. The Vedic Mantras are both in prose and poetry. Metrical Mantras are called "Rik" and "Yajus" is the name of the prose .(to be continued)G.Balasubramanian ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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