Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Bhakti is based on THE DESIRE m.namasivayam --- On Sun, 19/7/09, Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastry wrote: Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastryRe: What should we ask of God? Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 4:00 PM Dear brother, Bhakti is eternal. Suppose you go to God, receive a boon, and walk away. When your intention is to get something, then you are in a hurry. A person who knows that he owns God is not in a hurry for anything. Infinite patience arises in him. When you own God, you will not be in a hurry to get something out of God. Your hurry to get something throws you off balance and makes you small. Have infinite patience. When you have infinite patience, you will realize God belongs to you. Either through awareness or through practice you reach the same point.. With love and regards, Sastry --- On Thu, 7/16/09, dave m <dev3108 > wrote: dave m <dev3108 >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] What should we ask of God?shiva_mahimaThursday, July 16, 2009, 9:45 PM What should we ask of God? Human existence is said to be the highest existence. Humans should ensure that do not waste life in flippant pursuits, so that we do not have to regret any thought or action of ours later. What is the correct way to lead this life? A life devoted to realisation of God is the only way that can be said to have been used correctly, and with no question of regrets later. It is really easy. And the simplest possible method is Meditation. We all seek God, and those who seek Him, do so for divergent reasons. We are all praying to achieve so many aims. Which is the right one? What should a devotee really ask of God? This story from Mahabharata answers this question beautifully and categorically. The Great War between the Pandavas and Kauravas was to begin. Arjuna, having pondered, decided to go to Lord Krishna and ask him for help. He went to the Lord’s abode and found him asleep. He stood respectfully at his lotus feet, with folded hands and head bowed in reverence. Duryodana, of the Kauravas, had the same idea of asking Sri Krishna’s help. He too came and, finding the Lord asleep, sat arrogantly in a chair placed at the head of Lord’s bed. In due course, the Lord woke up. Arjuna, being at his feet, was the first person he, naturally saw. As he turned to get up, the Lord’s eyes fell upon Duryodana. The purpose of their visit was known to Him. However, he asked them what he could do for them. Both answered that they had come to request his assistance in the ensuing war... The lord said that they had placed him in a difficult predicament by asking for the same thing. He said he could not deny either of them. He said he would offer himself, alone, without armies to one of them and to the other he would offer all his armed forces completely. He said that since his eyes had fallen on Arjuna first, he should have the first choice in the matter. Arjuna promptly prayed to Sri Krishna that he alone should side the Pandavas.... Duryodana heaved a sigh of relief and requested Sri Krishna for all his forces. The Lord agreed to their requests. We know who emerged victorious. The moral is “We should ask for HIM, not ask for things He can give us†If the lord gives us everything in the Universe but withholds Himself from us, we gain nothing. But if we seek HIM for Himself alone, we get not merely Him but all that is His, too! abhyaasa yOga yuktEna cEtasaa naanyagaaminaa, paramam pursham divyam yaati paarthaanucintayan. Meaning: Arjuna, he who with his mind disciplined through Yoga in the form of practice of meditation and thinking of nothing else, is constantly engaged in contemplation of God attains the supremely effulgent Divine Purusha (God) (sloka 8 in chapter 8 of Gita) Are we asking GOD for Him? Many times we pray and ask Bhagvan for this and that, for His mercies, His Grace, His DIvine Protection etc etc but, what about asking Him just for His presence in our lives? Won't that alone suffice devotees? Won't His mere presence in our lives as our friend and support is going bring all happiness we seek. Think about it. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 It is not clear from the posting as to what desire has to do with Bhakti. Bhakti means devotion. In the context of God, devotion should not have any desire. If a man is devoted to his wife, there could be place for desires. If we love God, we should love Him not for fulfillment of our material wants and desires. Perhaps, the only desire a devotee can have is merger with the Divine.G.Balasubramaniannama siva <nama_sivam Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 1:03:54 PMRe: What should we ask of God? Bhakti is based on THE DESIRE m.namasivayam --- On Sun, 19/7/09, Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastry@ grouply.com> wrote: Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastry@ grouply.com>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] What should we ask of God?om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSunday, 19 July, 2009, 4:00 PM Dear brother, Bhakti is eternal. Suppose you go to God, receive a boon, and walk away. When your intention is to get something, then you are in a hurry. A person who knows that he owns God is not in a hurry for anything. Infinite patience arises in him. When you own God, you will not be in a hurry to get something out of God. Your hurry to get something throws you off balance and makes you small. Have infinite patience. When you have infinite patience, you will realize God belongs to you. Either through awareness or through practice you reach the same point.. With love and regards, Sastry --- On Thu, 7/16/09, dave m <dev3108 > wrote: dave m <dev3108 >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] What should we ask of God?shiva_mahimaThursday, July 16, 2009, 9:45 PM What should we ask of God? Human existence is said to be the highest existence. Humans should ensure that do not waste life in flippant pursuits, so that we do not have to regret any thought or action of ours later. What is the correct way to lead this life? A life devoted to realisation of God is the only way that can be said to have been used correctly, and with no question of regrets later. It is really easy. And the simplest possible method is Meditation. We all seek God, and those who seek Him, do so for divergent reasons. We are all praying to achieve so many aims. Which is the right one? What should a devotee really ask of God? This story from Mahabharata answers this question beautifully and categorically. The Great War between the Pandavas and Kauravas was to begin. Arjuna, having pondered, decided to go to Lord Krishna and ask him for help. He went to the Lord’s abode and found him asleep. He stood respectfully at his lotus feet, with folded hands and head bowed in reverence. Duryodana, of the Kauravas, had the same idea of asking Sri Krishna’s help. He too came and, finding the Lord asleep, sat arrogantly in a chair placed at the head of Lord’s bed. In due course, the Lord woke up. Arjuna, being at his feet, was the first person he, naturally saw. As he turned to get up, the Lord’s eyes fell upon Duryodana. The purpose of their visit was known to Him. However, he asked them what he could do for them. Both answered that they had come to request his assistance in the ensuing war... The lord said that they had placed him in a difficult predicament by asking for the same thing. He said he could not deny either of them. He said he would offer himself, alone, without armies to one of them and to the other he would offer all his armed forces completely. He said that since his eyes had fallen on Arjuna first, he should have the first choice in the matter. Arjuna promptly prayed to Sri Krishna that he alone should side the Pandavas.... Duryodana heaved a sigh of relief and requested Sri Krishna for all his forces. The Lord agreed to their requests. We know who emerged victorious. The moral is “We should ask for HIM, not ask for things He can give us†If the lord gives us everything in the Universe but withholds Himself from us, we gain nothing. But if we seek HIM for Himself alone, we get not merely Him but all that is His, too! abhyaasa yOga yuktEna cEtasaa naanyagaaminaa, paramam pursham divyam yaati paarthaanucintayan. Meaning: Arjuna, he who with his mind disciplined through Yoga in the form of practice of meditation and thinking of nothing else, is constantly engaged in contemplation of God attains the supremely effulgent Divine Purusha (God) (sloka 8 in chapter 8 of Gita) Are we asking GOD for Him? Many times we pray and ask Bhagvan for this and that, for His mercies, His Grace, His DIvine Protection etc etc but, what about asking Him just for His presence in our lives? Won't that alone suffice devotees? Won't His mere presence in our lives as our friend and support is going bring all happiness we seek. Think about it. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Radhe Krishna To All, What is the best boon to ask for from God? Is it good to pray to Him with the thought "Oh Lord! Give me what ever you wish for"? Sri Sri Muralidhara Swamiji: If God appears before you, do not ask him for wealth, remedy for suffering, power, fame or anything worldly. Also, do not ask him for the attainment of the purpose of life as per Advaita, Vishishtadvaita , Dvaita or such high philosophies. Just ask him one simple thing. Ask him to give Himself to you. That is the best prayer to ask God. Regards & Chant Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare ----------------------- If you have any questions or doubts concerning Spirituality, Mental peace or problems in life or about dharma, please write to us by clicking here: http://www.namadwaar.org/answers/askquestion.php His Holiness Sri Sri Swamiji personally answers these questions for you and suggests prayers ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Thank you very much i also mean the same(desire) m.namasivayam--- On Mon, 20/7/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsubRe: What should we ask of God? Date: Monday, 20 July, 2009, 1:52 AM It is not clear from the posting as to what desire has to do with Bhakti. Bhakti means devotion. In the context of God, devotion should not have any desire. If a man is devoted to his wife, there could be place for desires. If we love God, we should love Him not for fulfillment of our material wants and desires. Perhaps, the only desire a devotee can have is merger with the Divine.G.Balasubramanian nama siva <nama_sivam >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSunday, July 19, 2009 1:03:54 PMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] What should we ask of God? Bhakti is based on THE DESIRE m.namasivayam --- On Sun, 19/7/09, Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastry@ grouply.com> wrote: Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastry@ grouply.com>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] What should we ask of God?om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSunday, 19 July, 2009, 4:00 PM Dear brother, Bhakti is eternal. Suppose you go to God, receive a boon, and walk away. When your intention is to get something, then you are in a hurry. A person who knows that he owns God is not in a hurry for anything. Infinite patience arises in him. When you own God, you will not be in a hurry to get something out of God. Your hurry to get something throws you off balance and makes you small. Have infinite patience. When you have infinite patience, you will realize God belongs to you. Either through awareness or through practice you reach the same point.. With love and regards, Sastry --- On Thu, 7/16/09, dave m <dev3108 > wrote: dave m <dev3108 >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] What should we ask of God?shiva_mahimaThursday, July 16, 2009, 9:45 PM What should we ask of God? Human existence is said to be the highest existence. Humans should ensure that do not waste life in flippant pursuits, so that we do not have to regret any thought or action of ours later. What is the correct way to lead this life? A life devoted to realisation of God is the only way that can be said to have been used correctly, and with no question of regrets later. It is really easy. And the simplest possible method is Meditation. We all seek God, and those who seek Him, do so for divergent reasons. We are all praying to achieve so many aims. Which is the right one? What should a devotee really ask of God? This story from Mahabharata answers this question beautifully and categorically. The Great War between the Pandavas and Kauravas was to begin. Arjuna, having pondered, decided to go to Lord Krishna and ask him for help. He went to the Lord’s abode and found him asleep. He stood respectfully at his lotus feet, with folded hands and head bowed in reverence. Duryodana, of the Kauravas, had the same idea of asking Sri Krishna’s help. He too came and, finding the Lord asleep, sat arrogantly in a chair placed at the head of Lord’s bed. In due course, the Lord woke up. Arjuna, being at his feet, was the first person he, naturally saw. As he turned to get up, the Lord’s eyes fell upon Duryodana. The purpose of their visit was known to Him. However, he asked them what he could do for them. Both answered that they had come to request his assistance in the ensuing war.... The lord said that they had placed him in a difficult predicament by asking for the same thing. He said he could not deny either of them. He said he would offer himself, alone, without armies to one of them and to the other he would offer all his armed forces completely. He said that since his eyes had fallen on Arjuna first, he should have the first choice in the matter. Arjuna promptly prayed to Sri Krishna that he alone should side the Pandavas..... Duryodana heaved a sigh of relief and requested Sri Krishna for all his forces. The Lord agreed to their requests. We know who emerged victorious. The moral is “We should ask for HIM, not ask for things He can give us†If the lord gives us everything in the Universe but withholds Himself from us, we gain nothing. But if we seek HIM for Himself alone, we get not merely Him but all that is His, too! abhyaasa yOga yuktEna cEtasaa naanyagaaminaa, paramam pursham divyam yaati paarthaanucintayan. Meaning: Arjuna, he who with his mind disciplined through Yoga in the form of practice of meditation and thinking of nothing else, is constantly engaged in contemplation of God attains the supremely effulgent Divine Purusha (God) (sloka 8 in chapter 8 of Gita) Are we asking GOD for Him? Many times we pray and ask Bhagvan for this and that, for His mercies, His Grace, His DIvine Protection etc etc but, what about asking Him just for His presence in our lives? Won't that alone suffice devotees? Won't His mere presence in our lives as our friend and support is going bring all happiness we seek. Think about it. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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