Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Dear All, below please find the reaction by Frits Staal (fritsstaal) to the recent article on the Indus Civilization by A. Lawler in Science Magazine. He has asked me to post his letter to the editor of Science Mag. as he cannot send it on to the list from his buon' retiro in Thailand. Cheers, M.W. --------------- SIR The article " Indus Collapse: The End or the Beginning of an Asian Culture " (6 June 2008) raises important issues that need careful analysis before conclusions are drawn. The first sentence mentions correctly that the Akkadian Empire in Mesopotamia collapsed in the 22nd century BCE. But it fails to point out that the Mesopotamian civilizations left records on thousands of clay tablets with cuneiform writing, many of them edited, translated and studied in depth. That contrasts with the Indus civilization which is mute. The letter refers to scenes that are " imprinted upon seals. " It does not say that these seals, which exhibit pictures and sequences of signs, remain undeciphered. The average length of the 2,905 sequences listed in Mahadevan's concordance is 4.6, too short for any language. Similar sequences from the Near East link families, clans, etc. to celestial or mythological figures. It is consistent with what is found on the seals but no proof. The letter mentions Pirak but it is not a part of the Indus Civilization and left no inscriptions. The letter points out rightly that there is no evidence for an " Aryan invasion, " but does not say that around 1500 BCE a few speakers of Indo-European trickled across the high passes that separate Central Asia from the South Asian subcontinent. Their oral traditions have been preserved. These are the Vedas, their language and culture are known and it is they that moved (not " drove people " ) to the east. It is admirable that SCIENCE covers topics like the Indus Valley civilization but they should be presented by scientists who are familiar with the facts and know how to interpret them. Frits Staal & #8195; Frits Staal http://philosophy.berkeley.edu/staal > =========================================================================== > > Michael Witzel witzel > > www.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm > > Harvard University > > 1 Bow Street > > Cambridge MA 02138, USA > > > > phone: 1- 617 - 495 3295 (voice & messages), 496 8570, fax 617 - 496 8571 > > --------- > > my direct line (also for messages) : 617- 496 2990 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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