dating of aryans

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Dear all,

 

Frankly one thing I can not understand is this-

 

how the dating of Arayns as being conjectured today, fits into the context of the world history?

 

For eg, if the Arkaim Culture of 17th century and that of

Mitannis have something in common, that is Influence of Indic

Aryans. Arkaim is a full blown civilization and so is that of Hurrians.

In between how come the Indic Aryans are not only uncivilized nomads

inspite of having chariots (they are not exactly chariots, they

are rathas)? And more interestingly, they have created a greater

civilization of their own, highly distinct with complex potry and

rituals and identification (Gothras) not only so very fast,

probably in the next 100 years or so but also, it is something

fantastic that this Aryan culture became substratum for the

indegenous cultures of India, if any.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

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[Guest guest]

 

how the dating of Arayns as being conjectured today, fits into the context of the world history?

 

For eg, if the Arkaim Culture of 17th century and that of

Mitannis have something in common, that is Influence of Indic

Aryans. Arkaim is a full blown civilization and so is that of Hurrians.

In between how come the Indic Aryans are not only uncivilized nomads

inspite of having chariots (they are not exactly chariots, they

are rathas)? And more interestingly, they have created a greater

civilization of their own, highly distinct with complex potry and

rituals and identification (Gothras) not only so very fast,

probably in the next 100 years or so but also, it is something

fantastic that this Aryan culture became substratum for the

indegenous cultures of India, if any.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

 

The contradictory proposals that IE were wandering nomads and yet were held to

have originated from a specific abode, and that they were primitive tribesmen

and yet were able to formulate and utilize a language as intricate and complex

as Indo European is a fallacy at best.

In India, they could rise to an Identification system that very scientifically prohibits endogamy, proving that the population available is quite

large and does not indicate a small tribe.

Kosambi and others clearly derived that Gotra is pre varna. In other words, the migrations if any should have left a large trial of archaeological finds . What is more fantastic that in every case, the IE was the substratum totally eradicating the ethnic culture almost without a trace.

 

 

While

the major branches of the main trunk of proto IE gathered strength , looked

healthy and spread far and wide, the

latter , at the same time, withered, shriveled and failed to show any

indication of life and vitality and

disappeared from sight and was lost for ever without leaving any trace or mark

that might lead to its identification, nor could any fossil remains of it be

detected or found out , so that it could be inferred that such a society in

such a stage of development existed at one time, on the surface of the earth.

 

The

old Romantists have given rise to the racial theories as well as the diffusion

of Aryans from one specific area, other than India. While the racial theories that have been developed from these old beliefs were effectively refuted, since

they do not fit into the western beliefs- especially since hold these theories

in terror , post world wars, the linguistic theories giving rise to the AIT has

been kept alive.

 

The

liturgical, archaeological or proof from the traditions do not support such

diffusion. The only proof that is there

is the linguistics. But how this is reliable>?

 

In

fact, there is evidence to prove that the laws of linguistics tree and

borrowings were formulated mostly based on Rg Vedic geography.

 

The

Europeans have believed that , post Indus valley, the Aryans have migrated from West to East. Thus, the language in the books pertaining to East is thought to be more modern

than those involving the Western area

geography.(such as Punjab)

 

These

beliefs are incorporated into linguistics- the language of the books of west is

archaic compared to that in the books of east.

Accordingly, the three laws of linguistics are framed and based on this,

the AIT is kept alive till today.

 

In

other words, if Europeans believed that there was no AIT and the diffusions of Aryans is from east to west, then the stratification of RV books would have acquired an exact reverse order. Thus, the laws of linguistics which have followed these beliefs would have exactly the results opposite what they are giving today. There is not one single proof or method which can condemn this statement and can give an objective tree of linguistic follow up.

 

In any case, it is weird that the Europeans

still blindly follow the Biblical chronology and the philological remnants of Romantics. Kishore patnaik