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Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM[ind-Arch] Dringking horse blood [was: Hindus ruled the rome, Visigoths & Ostragoths are aryans] " *indiaarchaeology " <indiaarchaeology >

 

 

 

 

 

 

On drinking horse's blood turuShka-s and mongols are recorded to have been doing that.  I read mention of it in one 13th centuy song from rAjasthAna alluding to this with contempt.  Nirad C Choudhury in the ‘Autobiography of An Unknown Indian’ has collected the song, and here is this part of it:

 

....apsaras were forbidden to enter its waters,Even indrANI considered it not proper to bathe here,Now becomes the wallowing pool of abominable turuShkanI women in their menses…

....Once deva-s quenched their thirst from it,Now supplies to these barbarians who dont hesitate to slaughter their horses to quench their thirsts in the desert…

 

Translation of the full poem here:

http://bharatendu.com/2009/01/24/pushkara/

 

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Sarvesh Tiwari 

 

IndiaArchaeology From: p.manansalaDate: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:00:24 +0000

[ind-Arch] Re: Hindus ruled the rome, Visigoths & Ostragoths are aryans

 

 

 

Let me continue now with the Getas, Goths and Ghiz.The repeated testimony of the ancient writers equate the Goths with the Getae.  Furthermore, the Goths are often called " Scythian, " as the latter word becomes a catch phrase for groups like the Getae, Huns, Avars, Magyars, Bulgars, etc.

The resemblance of " Goth " or more properly Gothic : Gut to Gete is easily explained by ghUz, where the front rounded " u " easily becomes " i " when the lips are not tightly pursed.

The Massagetae or " Great Getae " as similar to the nomadic Scythians by Herodotus:

" [1.215] In their dress and mode of living the Massagetae resemble the Scythians. They fight both on horseback and on foot, neither method is strange to them: they use bows and lances, but their favourite weapon is the battle-axe. Their arms are all either of gold or brass. For their spear-points, and arrow-heads, and for their battle-axes, they make use of brass; for head-gear, belts, and girdles, of gold. So too with the caparison of their horses, they give them breastplates of brass, but employ gold about the reins, the bit, and the cheek-plates. They use neither iron nor silver, having none in their country; but they have brass and gold in abundance. "

" [1.216] The following are some of their customs; - Each man has but one wife, yet all the wives are held in common; for this is a custom of the Massagetae and not of the Scythians, as the Greeks wrongly say. Human life does not come to its natural close with this people; but when a man grows very old, all his kinsfolk collect together and offer him up in sacrifice; offering at the same time some cattle also. After the sacrifice they boil the flesh and feast on it; and those who thus end their days are reckoned the happiest. If a man dies of disease they do not eat him, but bury him in the ground, bewailing his ill-fortune that he did not come to be sacrificed. They sow no grain, but live on their herds, and on fish, of which there is great plenty in the Jaxartes. Milk is what they chiefly drink. The only god they worship is the sun, and to him they offer the horse in sacrifice; under the notion of giving to the swiftest of the gods the swiftest of all mortal creatures.

Horace described the life of the Getae like that of the Scythian as mostly nomadic with at best a transient agriculture practiced.  Dionysius says the Massagetae drunk horse milk  and horse blood, and Virgil describes the same diet for the Getae in Bulgaria, and Adam's Chronicle says the same thing of Goths in Sweden.

Now even the Tajiks who live in the middle of Central Asia do not eat horse's flesh or drink mare's milk as a matter of habit.  Nor, to my knowledge, do the Pashtuns or other Iranians.  Maybe someone knows some group that does?  But nearly every Turkic and Altaic groups quite nearly survived before modern times on mare's milk.   Up to this day, mare's milk is still an important part of the diet for many of them.

More to come.Regards,Paul Kekai ManansalaQuests of the Dragon and Bird Clanhttp://sambali.blogspot.com/ 

 

 

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