Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 To be more accurate, most people will not follow Amma, most people will not feel drawn to going to Amma. Then, of those who come, nbot all will get it, or spend enough time around Amma being quiet enough to get it. If someone just goes to one Devi Bhava for a few hours, they may not understand. Personally, I have not noticed that the swamis spend time with " pretty women " . that does not seem accurate to me. They do spend a lot of time with Indian families though, and that is part of their role. Peace, Chris Ammachi , " parzival35 " <parzival2 wrote: > > Dear Narendra, > > You have solved your own problem. > > I am the kind of person who will follow 100% once I am convinced that > what I am doing is correct. However I will not believe in something just > because 100 other people are following some idea. > > You don't require anyone else to clear your doubts. " Pretty women " can > distract even the most devoted when they see how many of them there are > " out there " !!! > > P. > > > Ammachi , " Narendra Kulkarni " <nkulki@> wrote: > > > > Well I personally have had no " magical " experiences with Amma. I have > made > > an honest attempt to talk to some of the swami's present. What bothers > me > > greatly is to see the swami's spent inordinate amount of time talking > to > > pretty women while completely ignoring me and my mom. And trust me, I > wasn't > > rude to anyone. I asked some of the swami's about what the whole > philosophy > > of the organization is beyond " love " and hugging people. I am not > trying to > > down play the importance of love, but having faith in a person without > > knowledge is very dangerous. I found it very disconcerting that I > wasn't > > able to find anyone who was willing to explain my questions and clear > my > > doubts. > > I am the kind of person who will follow 100% once I am convinced > that what > > I am doing is correct. However I will not believe in something just > because > > 100 other people are following some idea. > > > > > > > > Ammachi [Ammachi ] On > Behalf Of > > Mary Beth Hayman > > Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:40 AM > > Ammachi > > Re: A sincere question > > > > Here are Amma's words... > > > > " The Inner Mother, whose true nature is infinitude and silence, > manifests > > visibly through this body so that her children can have a glimpse of > the > > Mother who is deep within. The body is powerful; it has the power to > express > > > > the infinite inner power. The reason this external Mother exists is to > help > > you reach the Inner Mother, the Mother of the " Mind of minds. " The > Inner > > Mother has none of the external qualities. It is totally silent and > > attributeless in the " Mind of minds. " Silence is the language of this > Inner > > Mother. " > > > > > > > > > " Pranada S. " daughterpranada@ > > >Ammachi > > >Ammachi > > >Re: A sincere question > > >Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:50:06 -0400 > > > > > >Namah Shivaya, Narendra, > > > > > >I am not by any stretch of the imagination a " senior " member of this > > >forum, nor could I begin to speak to the Krishna story, but I can > tell > > >you that Amma has said that all of creation was Her guru. She has > > >also said that Her mother, Damayanti-amma, was Her guru in a sense, > > >because she inculcated Her with such attention to detail, charity, > and > > >cleanliness. > > > > > >I also believe that Jesus Christ was an avatar. Yet if He had a > guru, > > >that knowledge has been lost to us. > > > > > >Whether or not a guru is present in the body, or named, does that > > >change what is? > > > > > >Amma has been asked in the past why everyone is worshipping Her. She > > >answered that actually She is the one worshipping them. She sees God > > >within everyone and She bows down to that. > > > > > >When people first started to come to Amma, She tried to shoo them > away > > >and drive them off, but because of their deep love for Her, they > could > > >not stand to leave, so finally She relented and allowed them to stay. > > >I don't think that She is concerned with whether there is a large > > >organization around Her. She has said that even if all Her swamis > > >were to leave the ashram, She would continue to do what She is doing > - > > >to embrace, to help the suffering. > > > > > >She has also said that today people might call Her Devi, tomorrow > they > > >might call Her a devil. She doesn't care. > > > > > >Ultimately, I think that there is no substitute for witnessing, > > >first-hand, Her physical presence and the transformation within. I > > >absolutely do believe that Amma is Devi, not because of what anyone > > >has told me, but because of my own feelings and experiences. But I > > >can't give that belief to anyone else. > > > > > >On the intellectual level, it is simply impossible to grasp what Amma > > >is. If we try only intellectually, we will come to false conclusion > > >after false conclusion, positive and negative alike. I think that > > >intellect and discernment are not to be abandoned, by any stretch; > > >only recognized as not the ultimate arbiter when it comes to the > > >nature of a Satguru or avatar. > > > > > >I don't understand Amma at all; the more I try, the more I find that > > >She is unknowable. It is actually kind of a relief: She is not, > > >cannot be, limited to any intellectual conception of Her that I may > > >come up with. > > > > > >Jai Ma, > > >Pranada > > > > > > > > >On 7/18/07, Narendra Kulkarni nkulki@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well thank you for your response. I do agree with your point that > > >ultimately > > > > only I can figure out who Amma is. Even if someone else tells me > who > > >Amma > > > > is, I still won't understand. > > > > > >[text snipped by moderator] > > > > _______________ > > Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! > > http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I felt sad when Narendra observed that she " thinks " the swamis are doing something, this or that, or just talking to " beautiful " people. First of all we are all beautiful in our own ways. It is sad that some can only see the appearance of the body as beautiful or not beautiful. We are so much more than just our looks. The twist is that most of the people of India are very pretty and handsome. It would be funny if the swamis only talked to " ugly " people...huh? Anyway, the mind will do anything to distract one from following a new pattern or going a new way - surrender is very difficult and the mind will come up with thousands of errant thoughts and keep one distracted from the truth and what is real. Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service, Supriti Omenka Nnadi Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Well, there you go Narendra. It's all your fault. You must not have surrendered enough. It's not them. It's you. Like I said, best to take your questions elsewhere. Violet Ammachi , Omenka Supriti Nnadi <oomenka wrote: > > I felt sad when Narendra observed that she " thinks " the swamis are doing something, this or that, or just talking to " beautiful " people. First of all we are all beautiful in our own ways. It is sad that some can only see the appearance of the body as beautiful or not beautiful. We are so much more than just our looks. The twist is that most of the people of India are very pretty and handsome. It would be funny if the swamis only talked to " ugly " people...huh? Anyway, the mind will do anything to distract one from following a new pattern or going a new way - surrender is very difficult and the mind will come up with thousands of errant thoughts and keep one distracted from the truth and what is real. > > Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service, > > Supriti Omenka Nnadi > > > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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