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Ammachi , " ckeniley2003 " <ckeniley2003 wrote:

>

> ............

> When folks cannot see and understand the heart breaking example that

> Amma is setting for all of us, the perfect example of devoting

> oneself entirely for others, basically a slow crucification, they

> are emotionally shut down to say the least.

>

> ........

>

> In the meantime, I think the e satsang needs some boundaries, and

> these guys should be encouraged to post elsewhere. That way, people

> who need information or want to share insights can do so in peace.

>

> personally, I wanted to share some nice moments and insights from

> this summer, but will not do so, because of the denegrating mood

> that exists here.

> >>>>

 

Namaste Keval,

 

Thanks for the heads up on the " Trolls "

An internet term that I was not familiar with.

Perhaps, you can post what the " troll " means.

 

And perhaps, you should consider becoming

more diligent in identifying the trolls

and perhaps putting them on probation

for a month or two

especially around Amma's Tour time.

By now, it should be easier to identify them

earlier.

 

so that we won't be discouraged in posting

our devotional experiences

like Chris mentioned above;

I too feel like that sometimes.

 

this is just my 2cents

perhaps, the trolls are needed

to illicit the responses

from devotees that I felt

were very very good

 

what do others feel?

 

May Amma Bless us and Guide us,

amarnath

PS~ to Chris, please consider posting

your devotional experiences

on :

Amma's Darling Children

and

Amma Bhakti

both with tough moderators

thanks

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This is from the internet:

 

Trolls can be existing members of a community that rarely post and often

contribute no

useful information to the thread, but instead make argumentative posts in an

attempt to

discredit another person, concentrating almost exclusively on facts irrelevant

to the point

of the conversation, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others. The

key element

under attack by a troll is known only to the troll.

A troll is a person who approaches a board with the specific intention of

stirring things

up, either as a goal in and of itself or as a means of attacking the board

perhaps motivated

by opposition to the ethos of the board. For example, a neo-Nazi approaching a

Jewish

forum with the intention of attacking the members, purely because the neo-Nazi

knows

the forum to contain Jewish members, will be considered a troll.

 

A troll's main goal is usually to arouse anger and frustration among the message

board's

other participants, and will write whatever it takes to achieve this end. One

popular trolling

strategy is the practice of Winning by Losing. While the victim is trying to put

forward solid

and convincing facts to prove his position, the troll's only goal is to

infuriate its prey. The

troll takes (what it knows to be) a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and

then

vigorously defends it while mocking and insulting its prey. The troll looks like

a complete

fool, but this is all part of the plan. The victim becomes noticeably angry by

trying to

repeatedly explain the flaws of the troll's argument. Provoking this anger was

the troll's

one and only goal from the very beginning.

 

Experienced participants in online forums know that the most effective way to

discourage

a troll is usually to ignore him or her, because responding encourages a true

troll to

continue disruptive posts — hence the often-seen warning " Please do not feed the

troll " .

 

*********************

 

I don't know if this applies here or not, but someone did ask for the defintion

of a troll.

 

Now can we get back to Amma? It seems She is getting lost in the shuffle.

 

Jai MA!!!

 

-Achyut

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ammachi , " amarnath " <anatol_zinc wrote:

>

> Ammachi , " ckeniley2003 " <ckeniley2003@> wrote:

> >

> > ............

> > When folks cannot see and understand the heart breaking example that

> > Amma is setting for all of us, the perfect example of devoting

> > oneself entirely for others, basically a slow crucification, they

> > are emotionally shut down to say the least.

> >

> > ........

> >

> > In the meantime, I think the e satsang needs some boundaries, and

> > these guys should be encouraged to post elsewhere. That way, people

> > who need information or want to share insights can do so in peace.

> >

> > personally, I wanted to share some nice moments and insights from

> > this summer, but will not do so, because of the denegrating mood

> > that exists here.

> > >>>>

>

> Namaste Keval,

>

> Thanks for the heads up on the " Trolls "

> An internet term that I was not familiar with.

> Perhaps, you can post what the " troll " means.

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> Namaste Keval,

>

> Thanks for the heads up on the " Trolls "

> An internet term that I was not familiar with.

> Perhaps, you can post what the " troll " means.

 

here's a definition from Wikipedia:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

 

see also

http://curezone.com/forums/troll.asp

 

http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/anti_troll_faq.htm

 

The only way to deal with trolls is not to respond.

Don't take the bait. Don't waste your bandwidth.

Don't give these juvenile idiots the attention they

crave.

 

Keval

 

 

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