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Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!!

 

Namaskarams!!!

 

i agree with Keval...this kind of fear mongering never works....people

will just do the opposite as a kind of rebellion: " you're not gonna

tell ME what to do!! "

 

As for health issues this is really debatable, and i think that Amma

really dumbed down the whole discussion for Her own purposes...no room

for medicinal uses...just simplify the whole issue and hope that the

great unwashed masses will get the point.

 

Cannabis has been used for millenia as a medicinal plant and only more

recently generally as an intoxicant by large numbers of people.

Medicinally the plant and its extracts are very useful for a number of

complaints, eg. cancer patients, glaucoma patients, and migraineurs.

 

of course smoking anything is not good for you in the long run, but

there are alternative methods of delivering the medicine. i personally

have found in the past that this medicine was extremely efficacious

when orally administered (not smoked) for migraines. the nausea was

majorly reduced and pain as well. if one gets used to the side effects

of intoxication one may lead a more or less normal and productive

life....i did this for several years when my migraines were more

intense and prolonged as well as frequent...the only real drag was the

cost.

 

as for causing mental illness, i simply don't believe that old saw....

i believe that folks who are predisposed to mental illness may

selfmedicate themselves to deal WITH the illness, not realising that

this medicine may CONTRIBUTE to their troubles...the same holding for

schizophrenics....again i really can't accept that cannabis CAUSES

schizophrenia...only that it may trigger an episode, or hasten the

onset of the disease in someone who is already again predisposed to

getting it, by genetics or life experiences or both....that does not

mean that it CAUSES the illness...that is putting the cart before the

horse.

 

Mother has always said that we just listen to Her and take what we

need and discard the rest...and that we MUST use our own

discrimination in applying what She says at any one particular time or

to certain particular people.

 

i can't understand why anyone would be so foolish as to bother Her

with such questions when there are a lot more important issues.

 

what's wrong with using our own DISCRIMINATION...

 

in Amma's Divine Love,

and in Her service,

as ever,

your own Self,

 

visvanathan

 

 

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> > > Will write more if find my notes of someone's

> > > notes. Some of what I recall reading: It causes

> > > mental illness (It's scientifically verified that it

> > > can trigger schizophrenia, esp. in teens who use

> > > it.) Bad for health. Causes a dream like state

> > > from which we must wake up. The money could be used

> > > to help those who are suffering.

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> > I get that Amma wouldn't want her devotees to do

> > drugs. But surely she can

do better than this kind of

> > reefer madness fear-mongering. .. for decades parents

> > and middle-school teachers have been scaring kids with

> > warnings that smoking pot causes mental illness (not

> > to mention blindness and impotence) and marijuana is

> > the gateway drug that leads to the " hard " stuff like

> > acid and crack.

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> > (tried the hippie lettuce but didn't inhale...my

> > roommate in university grew the stuff hydroponically! )

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having been a smoker in the past, (meaning i am certainly not anti-

smoke)i will mention my 2 cents worth....

simply put (i didnt hear what mothers answer was in person this tíme

but i have heard her answer when asked the same question some years ago)

that mother does not tell her children what to do, that ultimiately

they will all make their own decisions anyway......but it is best if we

do not need to go outside so that we may see within, and that she does

pray for all her children who feel they need to " use " pot in this way,

as for the medicinal aspects....well if medicine is needed then so be

it (not ammas words, my own:)

 

grin,

in her amazing grace,

jayashree noel

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But then why would she prohibit the use at the ashrams? There's a

story of Big Swami informing Amma that there was this one guy that's

always smoking it, and Amma had Big Swami tell the guy that if he

wanted to stay at the ashram, he needed to abide by the rules.

 

The guy got mad at Big Swami saying that no one would be telling him

what to do, claiming to be " his own boss " and left the place. Later

that night (or the next day), having gone to another beach with

friends, he was caught on the beach alone smoking pot and thrown in

jail. The guy then returned to Amma to apologize and she said

something like, " You're not your own boss now, are you? "

 

She doesn't preach to those who don't want to be preached to,

generally speaking, because they can't take it. That's why much of

the 'public' talks nowadays can be discarded because they're all

sweet, no substance.

tom

 

Ammachi , " noeljayashree " <jayashree.noel

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> having been a smoker in the past, (meaning i am certainly not anti-

> smoke)i will mention my 2 cents worth....

> simply put (i didnt hear what mothers answer was in person this tíme

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Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote:

> She doesn't preach to those who don't want to be preached to,

> generally speaking, because they can't take it.

 

This one statement is key to understanding how Amma works with us all.

 

She does not care to waste her physical time and energies on people

who have not completely surrendered to Her. She accepts their right to

not surrender to Her and lets them be, and will even talk to them very

sweetly and lovingly at darshan time or otherwise, but they do not get

the " hard rocks " treatment from Her that will speed up the progress.

 

Amazingly, even the sweet talk has its way of working into us and help

us transform gradually if we just give it " time " (sometimes years),

viz., be open to the experience.

 

Jai Ma!

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