Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Caution: to those of you who want to follow the spiritual aphorism " leave the world alone " may want to skip reading the rest of this. dr phil says " you cannot change what you do not acknowledge " in spirituality, this is also pointed out, that we cannot make spiritual progress toward the light or awaken to who we are, without facing the darkness in us which is also projected into the world; i feel that there are still racism and all sort of bigoted ideologies based on fear and hatred and a lot of greed in America all of which have to be acknowledged, have to be exposed, have to be faced and handled in some very delicate manner; perhaps more delicate than the way Gandhi and ML King had to do; i don't know how, but it seems that maybe Obama is being guided; in any case, i hope so, and we should all pray for Obama and also for ourselves and for everyone and play our part without selfishness i think Amma has said that selfishness is the main cause of all our problems Amma also says that God's Grace is the deciding factor in all human endeavors in spirituality, our goal is the absolute truth of who we are as the ONE-GOD-SELF-AWARENESS and sometimes the advice is given " leave the world alone " but, on the level of this world play illusion, here is a window into some relative truths that resonate with me : http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.truthout.org/PresidentObama http://www.truthout.org/110708R http://www.truthout.org/ObamaWarmingUp http://www.truthout.org/BushFinalDays here are a few excerpts about Hope and Warnings about being Vigilant : This is our wake up call! Wed, 11/05/2008 - 14:44 — AML (not verified) This is our wake up call! This is our chance to be heard! This is our chance to roll up our sleeves and do something good for our country! This election signals the demand for participation. There is no room for complacency. We elected Barack, now let's get behind him and make this great nation great once more, from the ground up, like he taught us! Eternal vigilance is the Wed, 11/05/2008 - 13:45 — granny (not verified) Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. Let's celebrate our President-Elect and let's keep his feet to the fire - along with the feet of Pelosi and Reid and their House and Senate colleagues. The work is only beginning to be begun, and they need to hear from the people, early and often - about economy, education, environment, health, and above all the high crimes & misdemeanors of the outgoing gang. The latter cannot be swept under the rug. Those who do not pay attention to the crimes of the recent past are likely to see them repeated. Neo-cons, liberals, Thu, 11/06/2008 - 05:21 — Mary (not verified) Neo-cons, liberals, religious right.....the task before President elect Barack Obama is to eliminate the opportunity men who operate within the ranks of both parties and all ideologies to take America back. The outsourcing of our intelligence to organized crime, foreign intelligence services, and the incompetent and unsupervised military industrial complex has allowed the erosion of our Constitution and democracy. If Americans take a hard look at the way we have been subverted, it was done in the same way syndicated organized crime takes over a city: from law enforcement services on up, and UP is where these guys have risen. The CIA and FBI, once agencies of integrity are corrupted to the point of being totally ineffective if not incompetent: one need look no further than 911 for confirmation of that fact. Congress has allowed the " intelligence community's " to operate with no oversight, which has allowed and expanded corrupt relationships among opportunity peddlers to thrive - to the detriment of our national security, but not to worry, the same who caused the problem will head the investigations and information will be withheld from the people so they are not embarrassed or held accountable. The CIA needs to get out of our states, get out of the drug business, get out of the business of overthrowing regimes that displease one particular man at one particular point in time only to replace him with someone even worse and get back into the business of intelligence gathering. Our courts need to get back to the business of administering justice, even when it is unpleasant and politically inconvenient because the truth does matter. Until we have leaders who are not so beholden to the " Safari Club " type intelligence apparatus's of the world, nothing will change for the better. The President cannot effect this on his own, but needs Congress and needs the people. If we do not remain engaged in the process but continue to allow our Congressional leaders to lie, cheat, steal, and cover up for their pals who lie, cheat, steal.... we'll lose everything. It takes several generations to build a democracy, but only one generation to destroy one. We're at a crossroads here and democracy is in the crosshairs. The question is not what President Obama will do, but is " What will you/we do? " I am admiring your new Thu, 11/06/2008 - 02:56 — C. U. Soon! (not verified) I am admiring your new leader. He seems correct for the times and obviously for the people. I once drove route 66, and have always known Americans as a kind, trusting, happy and gregarious people full of spirit, heart and compassion, whom love their freedom, peace, prosperity and good government (Whom among us does not?). I was dismayed upon witnessing the dupe played out which brought America into another dirty war, this time, in Persia. The example set invoked a terrified response world wide, as the arms of America reached out to grapple with her new found foes, (I still wish I could have taken delivery of all that French wine and cheese that was tossed and flushed!). It has been nothing less than surreal to view a country that has historically ensconced the rights and personal freedoms of it's citizens become degraded and dejected; broke($) but not broken. Enter the new leader! Sure and living out his higher self through his powers of intellect and oration (Refreshing would be an understatement). Now is the time for everyone to live in our higher selves because... yes we can manifest a higher destiny. That is how it is done, simply manifest a higher destiny, as all those whom have entered the fray since the beginning of the struggle between good and evil. Congratulations America! 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Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 greetings beloved sibling and whoever wrote this.it takes true courage to be willing to write words such as this. i hope with all my heart that this compliments what has aleady been said. if you owe a medical bill,or any bill for that matter,they will send you that bill as long as it takes for it to get paid.people have bills sent to them until they die.this is reality.this country is beautiful and all that,however, in the name of its greatness ,it has robbed,rapped,stolen,etc.from others in order for it to thrive.for example,the black slaves who were brought to this country were promised 40 acres and a mule,(which was really an insult)once they were freed.THIS HAS NEVER BEEN PAID. the native americans are still owed BIG TIME!the federal government will not only charge you send you mail until you die in order to claim debts, they will also charge you late fees and screw up your credit.this is being done to the same people who are owed money,land and property,from this very beautiful country.this to me is sad reality.I AM AWARE and not in denial. we dont need to return to the way things were in this country.this country was founded on the blood,sweat and tears of the weak and open-hearted.the natives welcomed the pilgrims here and taught them how to survive and the same people's great-great grand children starve to death,freeze to death,suffer from alcoholism,use drugs that have been pumped into the US by the CIA and have just about had there cultures destroyed.the economy is always discussed,but they never mention the prison system.did you know that the prison system in this country is the LARGEST in the world?and they are building new ones all the time.did u know that it is one of the BIGGEST BUSINESSES in the country?most of the offenders are in their from drug charges.selling them or drug related crimes.where did these drugs come from.well beloved,not one in my neighborhood ever went to COLUMBIA and brought any cocaine back from there.this sytem allows this crap to happen.and then these people who did not bring this corruption into this country end up in prison and BOB BARKER(of the PRICE is right)gets paid BIG TIME.do a research on all the investors of the prison system,it will amaze you!Bob Barker is one of them.dont believe me,check it out for yourself.this is the deeper stuff that no one wants to look at until it effects them. this is how this country began.if you research how New York was founded ,you will be ashamed to call yourself an american.on the other hand there have been many in this country that have totally faught against this madness and made me proud to call myself an american.the quakers helped to create the UNDER-GROUND railroad that freed thousands of slaves .JOHN BROWN,was HARRIET TUBMANS right hand man and him and his sons were hung in the name of abolishing slavery. there were thousands of WHITE AMERICANS that have always stood for justice and the true AMERICAN WAY!having said this,the reality is that America has a HUGE debt to pay!this country will not be this country that we are claiming it to be, unless as the previous writer said ,these things are COURAGOUSLY FACED. the beautiful thing is that i am not angry at all. I AM JUST AWARE AND I REFUSE TO LIVE IN DENIAL.this country's greatness to me has nothing to do with the government.this country's greatness has everything to do with the hearts and selfless life giving service of people that " had enough and acted on behalf of JUSTICE and COMPASSION for all.these are principles that will out live this government or any government. they think i will pledge loyalty to something that is fleeting like a man made government when history proves that all world sytems eventually FALL!.my hearts loyalty is to the principles that GOVERN this UNIVERSE! LOVE,COMPASSION,SELFLESS SERVICE,HARMONY,PEACE,INTEGRITY,etc. i love Barack Obama ,but i am not in denial.i am a black man by the worlds standards, so its not about that.i love him.we are both from chicago and experienced racism in this country.it is not about that.we both know the pain of the people oppressed in this country and throughout the world.it is not about that.here is the reality. Barack Obama is the US president, he must defend American soil at any cost.if some country decides to bomb us from some grudge it has against america.guess what?Barack Obama has to defend this country which means that he has to possibly contribute the killing of human lives.this is reality! this is why my loyaltys are to the PRINCIPLES THAT GOVERN THE UNIVERSE ,not any fleeting system. i will not pledge loyalty to a system that conitually allows DRUGS and GUNS to be pumped into this country.how could i and live with a clear conscious?how could i pledge loyaly to a system,that allows the indiginous people of this land to starve and freeze death after it destoyed close to 50,000,000 of those same people in the name of THE AMERICAN WAY!should i do this ,just because we have a BLACK PRESIDENT?should i do this just because this country embraces diversity?my integrity to the PRINCIPLES OF THE UNIVERSE are much stronger then that! 150,000,000 million people were killed or died in middle passage from africa to america in the trans atlantic slave trade.in all this beloved family,there has never been one APOLOGY!but yet we say we are the greatest country on the planet!the hearts of this country ,not only need HOPE.they need to be broken.GOD LOVES A HUMBLE AND CONTRITE SPIRIT.THE SCRIPTURES SAY THA GOD WILL EXALT US IF WE HUMBLE OURSELVES.WE NEED MORE THEN HOPE TO MAKE THIS THING WORK.WE NEED HUMILTY.WE NEED TO BE BROKEN. WE DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO ONE DAY SAY WE ARE A GREAT NATION IF WE HUMBLY AND COURAGEOUSLY FACE THIS!ROME FELL!GREECE FELL!EGYPT FELL!what makes us any different?Is it because we now have a black president that has a beautiful heart? i am saying all of that to say, that it is a SPIRITUAL SYSTEM,A SYSTEM ALIGNED WITH THE EARTH,SUN ,MOON AND STARS THAT WE ALL WILL RETURN TO IN THE LONG RUN.if we all want this thing to work,we better get off our BUTTS and make it work!we better end all the selfishness.we better all begin to sacrifice even more! what this world needs now is LOVE SWEET LOVE!LIVE IN A STATE OF VICTORY BY DOING MORE SERVICE!DO MORE AS IF YOUR VERY CHILD WAS STARVING AND NEEDED YOUR HELP!DONT LET THE HIGH OF OBAMAS VICTORY WEAR OFF!LOVE AND SERVE AS OUR AMMA TELLS US TO.SEEK TO PLEASE GOD IN ALL THAT YOU DO! GO TELL SOMEONE YOU HAVE OFFENDED THAT YOU ARE SORRY!HUG SOMEONE HOMELESS!LIVE THE AMMA-RICAN WAY!AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA.....AMMA-RI\ CA......... MOST IMPORTANTLY,STAY AWOKE AS AMMA has been telling is for years. Ammachi: anatol_zinc: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:43:50 +0000 truth shall set us free ! Caution: to those of you who want to follow the spiritual aphorism " leave the world alone " may want to skip reading the rest of this.dr phil says " you cannot change what you do not acknowledge " in spirituality, this is also pointed out, that we cannot makespiritual progress toward the light or awaken to who we are, withoutfacing the darkness in us which is also projected into the world; i feel that there are still racism and all sort of bigoted ideologiesbased on fear and hatred and a lot of greed in America all of whichhave to be acknowledged, have to be exposed, have to be faced andhandled in some very delicate manner; perhaps more delicate than theway Gandhi and ML King had to do; i don't know how, but it seems thatmaybe Obama is being guided; in any case, i hope so, and we should allpray for Obama and also for ourselves and for everyone and play ourpart without selfishnessi think Amma has said that selfishness is the main cause of all ourproblemsAmma also says that God's Grace is the deciding factor in all humanendeavors in spirituality, our goal is the absolute truth of who we are as theONE-GOD-SELF-AWARENESS and sometimes the advice is given " leave theworld alone " but, on the level of this world play illusion, here is a window intosome relative truths that resonate with me :http://www.truthout.org/http://www.truthout.org/PresidentObamahttp://www.trutho\ ut.org/110708R http://www.truthout.org/ObamaWarmingUphttp://www.truthout.org/BushFinalDayshere are a few excerpts about Hope and Warnings about being Vigilant :This is our wake up call!Wed, 11/05/2008 - 14:44 — AML (not verified) This is our wake up call! This is our chance to be heard! This is ourchance to roll up our sleeves and do something good for our country!This election signals the demand for participation. There is no roomfor complacency. We elected Barack, now let's get behind him and makethis great nation great once more, from the ground up, like he taught us! Eternal vigilance is theWed, 11/05/2008 - 13:45 — granny (not verified) Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. Let's celebrate ourPresident-Elect and let's keep his feet to the fire - along with thefeet of Pelosi and Reid and their House and Senate colleagues. Thework is only beginning to be begun, and they need to hear from thepeople, early and often - about economy, education, environment,health, and above all the high crimes & misdemeanors of the outgoinggang. The latter cannot be swept under the rug. Those who do not payattention to the crimes of the recent past are likely to see themrepeated.Neo-cons, liberals,Thu, 11/06/2008 - 05:21 — Mary (not verified) Neo-cons, liberals, religious right.....the task before Presidentelect Barack Obama is to eliminate the opportunity men who operatewithin the ranks of both parties and all ideologies to take Americaback. The outsourcing of our intelligence to organized crime, foreignintelligence services, and the incompetent and unsupervised militaryindustrial complex has allowed the erosion of our Constitution anddemocracy. If Americans take a hard look at the way we have beensubverted, it was done in the same way syndicated organized crimetakes over a city: from law enforcement services on up, and UP iswhere these guys have risen. The CIA and FBI, once agencies ofintegrity are corrupted to the point of being totally ineffective ifnot incompetent: one need look no further than 911 for confirmation ofthat fact. Congress has allowed the " intelligence community's " tooperate with no oversight, which has allowed and expanded corruptrelationships among opportunity peddlers to thrive - to the detrimentof our national security, but not to worry, the same who caused theproblem will head the investigations and information will be withheldfrom the people so they are not embarrassed or held accountable. TheCIA needs to get out of our states, get out of the drug business, getout of the business of overthrowing regimes that displease oneparticular man at one particular point in time only to replace himwith someone even worse and get back into the business of intelligencegathering. Our courts need to get back to the business ofadministering justice, even when it is unpleasant and politicallyinconvenient because the truth does matter. Until we have leaders whoare not so beholden to the " Safari Club " type intelligence apparatus'sof the world, nothing will change for the better. The President cannoteffect this on his own, but needs Congress and needs the people. If wedo not remain engaged in the process but continue to allow ourCongressional leaders to lie, cheat, steal, and cover up for theirpals who lie, cheat, steal.... we'll lose everything. It takes severalgenerations to build a democracy, but only one generation to destroyone. We're at a crossroads here and democracy is in the crosshairs.The question is not what President Obama will do, but is " What willyou/we do? " I am admiring your newThu, 11/06/2008 - 02:56 — C. U. Soon! (not verified) I am admiring your new leader. He seems correct for the times andobviously for the people. I once drove route 66, and have always knownAmericans as a kind, trusting, happy and gregarious people full ofspirit, heart and compassion, whom love their freedom, peace,prosperity and good government (Whom among us does not?). I wasdismayed upon witnessing the dupe played out which brought Americainto another dirty war, this time, in Persia. The example set invokeda terrified response world wide, as the arms of America reached out tograpple with her new found foes, (I still wish I could have takendelivery of all that French wine and cheese that was tossed andflushed!). It has been nothing less than surreal to view a countrythat has historically ensconced the rights and personal freedoms ofit's citizens become degraded and dejected; broke($) but not broken.Enter the new leader! Sure and living out his higher self through hispowers of intellect and oration (Refreshing would be anunderstatement). Now is the time for everyone to live in our higherselves because... yes we can manifest a higher destiny. That is how itis done, simply manifest a higher destiny, as all those whom haveentered the fray since the beginning of the struggle between good andevil. 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